Yes. And this is the last time I'll mention this, because people seem to be able to make only one point in this discussion: A dismissive response like that is ammunition.
This is aside from the fact that the first petition was not as well thought out as this one - that was a general 'stop the TSA' complaint while this pertains to a specific, court-ordered action that has been ignored.
I notice you've still not provided examples of petitions that have the requisite number of signatures being completely ignored.
Dismissive responses are not the same as ignoring it completely. As you have seen in the article you linked, dismissive responses can be used to underscore problems in an administration - in a very public way.
The only petition that counts is the one handed to you as you enter the voting booth
Certainly this is the most effective. But if another tool - albeit an inferior one - is handed to you, do you stop working?
This was one that the Confederate States got right:
Article I, Section 9(20): Every law or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.[17]
Which provides a convenient excuse for people to do nothing - not even take 2 minutes out of their lives to attach their real name to a petition. I understand.
Even if the response is not satisfactory it is still a response. Unless you know of a petition that had the required number of signatories, and was then completely ignored? (As in - *no* response issued, not merely an unsatisfactory response.)
A response being issued - even one that says 'bugger off' - is better than nothing. Enough such responses can only serve to highlight the problems with TSA, and how they're consistently remaining unaddressed.
But like I said, it's far easier to complain about things than make even the most trivial of efforts to effect change. We can all bitch about it to each other in comments instead, that'll do some good.
I am ordinarily not a fan of e-petitions because they're generally useless; but at least the petition system at whitehouse.gov will require *some* action from the administration. Even if it ultimately serves to highlight how there is no accountability, there is value in that too.
I know from the 'slashdot effect' that we have far more than the required 25k readers necessary to get this petition through, yet instead people would rather complain about how nobody is doing anything.
Folks, it doesn't get any easier to "do something" than this.
Or do you think that the BATF is going to come barging down your front doors because you gave your email address and zip code to register to sign the petition?
This isn't an entirely theoretical problem; there are at least a dozen remixes of popular tracks (Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus comes to mind), and while many are distinguishable from the original, they're not all immediately distinguishable from each other.
Yes, this is a definite problem. Their music matching algorithm is a guy in his 50s named Pete. Pete has great tufts of hair growing out of his ears, and can't hear anything about the 10k range. He listens closely to every track, but mistakes are bound to happen - even with his trained ear.
Unfortunately they modded me up, I should have been downmodded for being offtopic as well.
It always seems to me that offtopic should be reserved for a reply that's not relevant to the post it's attached to.
Your first post was technically offtopic because it changed the subject; but our subsequent conversation has been on-topic for the thread, just not for the article...
I'm actually pretty fond of the US -- good thing considering that I live here. That post was made rather tongue-in-cheek, which some people saw and some people missed.
5. Can't trust those Americans with your data. 4. You'll lose control over your infrastructure. 3. Low prices are temporary and will increase as the global economy continues to balance 2. Perceived cost savings are more than offset by the additional cost of having to spec everything out to the point where you're better off doing it yourself. 1. You won't be able to understand them when you call for support.
The guys on Slashdot say they're not gay - even though they are effeminate, histrionic, dandy, mincing, androgynous, gynomastic, vain, sissy, dainty, and fussy manchild weenies.
-- Ethanol-fueled
P.S. The above comment does not apply to me. I am assuredly the most masculine, stoic, somber, manly man to frequent this site.
Read the Forbes article and the lists of people who just didn't address the issue because they didn't have you with a variation on the theme "We're a big corporation and we don't have to talk to you."
I got the impression it was more like, "We comply with the technical standards set forth by the CA DoJ, and listening to what you have to say would open us up to liability. Good day."
This recurring post is annoying yet amusing - because there is always *someone* who simply can't abide the fact that it's wrong, and simply *must* correct it. Looks like that's you, this time.
A female colleague just joined our team a few months back (previously all male). Know what we did to prepare? Nothing. Because we are all adults and knowwhat's appropriate in the workplace. The innuendo didn't exist before she joined and it sure as hell didn't start after.
You want to prevent it? Don't fucking do it, and don't accept it when anyone else does. Certainly don't treat it like a game or accept that it is inevitable.
Companies like yours are the ones that give the media ammunition when they want to dig up crap about gender discrimination in the IT/IS world.
tl;dr -you're all big boys now and should damn well know what's acceptable behavior.
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Yes. And this is the last time I'll mention this, because people seem to be able to make only one point in this discussion: A dismissive response like that is ammunition.
This is aside from the fact that the first petition was not as well thought out as this one - that was a general 'stop the TSA' complaint while this pertains to a specific, court-ordered action that has been ignored.
I notice you've still not provided examples of petitions that have the requisite number of signatures being completely ignored.
Dismissive responses are not the same as ignoring it completely. As you have seen in the article you linked, dismissive responses can be used to underscore problems in an administration - in a very public way.
The only petition that counts is the one handed to you as you enter the voting booth
Certainly this is the most effective. But if another tool - albeit an inferior one - is handed to you, do you stop working?
This was one that the Confederate States got right:
Article I, Section 9(20): Every law or resolution having the force of law, shall relate to but one subject, and that shall be expressed in the title.[17]
Too bad that one was never incorporated.
Which provides a convenient excuse for people to do nothing - not even take 2 minutes out of their lives to attach their real name to a petition. I understand.
but at least the petition system at whitehouse.gov will require *some* action from the administration.
REQUIRE?
Are you Daft?
There is nothing that requires any action, unless you consider totally ignoring the petition to be an "action".
If a petition meets the signature threshold, it will be reviewed by the Administration and we will issue a response.
- source
Even if the response is not satisfactory it is still a response. Unless you know of a petition that had the required number of signatories, and was then completely ignored? (As in - *no* response issued, not merely an unsatisfactory response.)
A response being issued - even one that says 'bugger off' - is better than nothing. Enough such responses can only serve to highlight the problems with TSA, and how they're consistently remaining unaddressed.
But like I said, it's far easier to complain about things than make even the most trivial of efforts to effect change. We can all bitch about it to each other in comments instead, that'll do some good.
I am ordinarily not a fan of e-petitions because they're generally useless; but at least the petition system at whitehouse.gov will require *some* action from the administration. Even if it ultimately serves to highlight how there is no accountability, there is value in that too.
I know from the 'slashdot effect' that we have far more than the required 25k readers necessary to get this petition through, yet instead people would rather complain about how nobody is doing anything.
Folks, it doesn't get any easier to "do something" than this.
Or do you think that the BATF is going to come barging down your front doors because you gave your email address and zip code to register to sign the petition?
Who would want 256 kilobyte per second, which turns a normal CD into more than a Gigabyte?
It makes for a warmer sound.
This isn't an entirely theoretical problem; there are at least a dozen remixes of popular tracks (Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus comes to mind), and while many are distinguishable from the original, they're not all immediately distinguishable from each other.
Yes, this is a definite problem. Their music matching algorithm is a guy in his 50s named Pete. Pete has great tufts of hair growing out of his ears, and can't hear anything about the 10k range. He listens closely to every track, but mistakes are bound to happen - even with his trained ear.
I, for one, welcome our...
Unfortunately they modded me up, I should have been downmodded for being offtopic as well.
It always seems to me that offtopic should be reserved for a reply that's not relevant to the post it's attached to.
Your first post was technically offtopic because it changed the subject; but our subsequent conversation has been on-topic for the thread, just not for the article...
I'm actually pretty fond of the US -- good thing considering that I live here. That post was made rather tongue-in-cheek, which some people saw and some people missed.
Top 5 reasons not to outsource to US:
5. Can't trust those Americans with your data.
4. You'll lose control over your infrastructure.
3. Low prices are temporary and will increase as the global economy continues to balance
2. Perceived cost savings are more than offset by the additional cost of having to spec everything out to the point where you're better off doing it yourself.
1. You won't be able to understand them when you call for support.
I should also add: perhaps coincidentally it sounds like someone is planning on pitching OUYA to us again very soon...
You can write a "homebrew" choose-your-own-adventure text game in minutes or hours at most.
Without some understanding as to what the author means by "homebrew", this question can't really be answered effectively.
Perhaps if there were an article linked, we'd get that additional information...
At least I went into it with eyes open, knowing it was a troll ;)
Still, mine has already been modded down Offtopic so it won't be visible for much longer.
The guys on Slashdot say they're not gay - even though they are effeminate, histrionic, dandy, mincing, androgynous, gynomastic, vain, sissy, dainty, and fussy manchild weenies.
-- Ethanol-fueled
P.S. The above comment does not apply to me. I am assuredly the most masculine, stoic, somber, manly man to frequent this site.
-- Ethanol-fueled
In what way?
You really think they did not include some fine print in the EULA about how the user was consenting to this?
An illegal action (not sure if this is or not) remains illegal, even if both parties agree to it.
So you're saying it's the government's fault for making the money available, and the person who took the money has no responsibility?
Isn't that akin to blaming the person who left his car unlocked when it gets stolen?
But, according to John Romero, Android is a piracy platform and Apple TV will make you his bitch!
And now! Daikatana 2!
In other news, different developers have different opinions.
Read the Forbes article and the lists of people who just didn't address the issue because they didn't have you with a variation on the theme "We're a big corporation and we don't have to talk to you."
I got the impression it was more like, "We comply with the technical standards set forth by the CA DoJ, and listening to what you have to say would open us up to liability. Good day."
Holy crap, whom did you marry?!
News Flash: Any automated security system can be beaten.
In further news, using technology to secure against technology is only as effective as the minds behind it.
Tune in at 11.
I think you meant "confidant".
This recurring post is annoying yet amusing - because there is always *someone* who simply can't abide the fact that it's wrong, and simply *must* correct it. Looks like that's you, this time.
A female colleague just joined our team a few months back (previously all male). Know what we did to prepare? Nothing. Because we are all adults and knowwhat's appropriate in the workplace. The innuendo didn't exist before she joined and it sure as hell didn't start after.
You want to prevent it? Don't fucking do it, and don't accept it when anyone else does. Certainly don't treat it like a game or accept that it is inevitable.
Companies like yours are the ones that give the media ammunition when they want to dig up crap about gender discrimination in the IT/IS world.
tl;dr -you're all big boys now and should damn well know what's acceptable behavior.
What else would they say? "our engineers are sitting on their collective asses and hoping this will soon resolve itself"?