Tell them that their bonus will be based on the number of calls they've logged.;p
But seriously, you should explain to them why it's so important to be able to measure what your team is doing. How else can you explain to upper-management that you need extra resources, for example? But if management is requesting full stats anyways, it sounds like your team doesn't have much choice.
I always thought most distros modify software too much... if they want to help out, why not join the upstream project so everyone can benefit? What are these patches that they are making that Mozilla wouldn't want in their code? Shouldn't they always be submitting their patches to Mozilla anyways? Isn't that the proper open source etiquette thing to do if you change the software?
If Debian is so determined on making a Firefox derivative, then I don't see a problem with Mozilla requesting that they stop associating their name with it (especially since people say it ends up being a buggier version). Imagine if MS Windows' latest security update included a modified Microsoft version of Firefox (with source code of course), don't you think Mozilla would be worried as well?
Anyone remember Microsoft announcing it's PDF replacement last year? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/27/042225 0
"Hey if we support PDF, we think Adobe might sue us, so PDF sucks! Don't use it! By the way we have this new format coming out called Metro, you should check it out..."
"We never said that wed work with exclusively open source software for every bit on the hard drive, because thats almost impossible (think closed source linux graphics drivers) and its not the point of this exercise. Apart from of course providing the final product as open content, the aim is to develop and improve open source graphics software by using it in a production environment in the real world - we arent going to be coding drivers or OSes here. We already have a bunch of Linux machines that we are using and testing in this way, maybe we will have a Sun box too. None of the things we do or the formats we use will be Mac only, (or Linux only for that matter). I personally think what were going through here is precisely part of our aims - practically testing these sort of things in the real world. People in the real world use Macs, so how can we find ways to promote and improve open source graphics software for them. Reno, sorry I cant help you here, we arent using Windows at all. From all Ive heard GIMP pressure sensitivity works ok on there, but thats all I know. Cheers, Matt"
Where did you get this information from? From the credits it shows:
Special Thanks to Open Source Projects
Gimp
Twisted
Python
Ubuntu Linux
OpenEXR
KDE
Verse
GNOME
CinePaint
DrQueue
Inkscape
Subversion
Not that your wrong, but I just haven't heard that anywhere else...
I'm glad that they want to improve FOSS in this way, even for many projects that will probably never benefit Google directly. For example, anyone that uses Blender for animation would definitely say that last year's SoC project to add fluids simulation is an awesome feature: http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Fluids_simulation.675 .0.html
"being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word hacker to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end."
Great esr quote from http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html.
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ILM is responsible for making movies like The Mask (of which there are seven films) and characters like Jar-Jar Binks possible. Be sure to thank them for that.
ILM is a CGI studio. It may be responsible for a lot of what you actually *see* on the screen, but there's whole a lot more behind making a movie then just that (even the really bad ones). On a technical level, almost everything they've done has been top-notch.
Just like I wouldn't blame them for The Mask movies, I wouldn't say they're the reason Schindler's List won "Best Picture" either. Again, they create the visuals, not the movie.
Think about it, the left and right mouse buttons are nice big pads you can rest your fingers on, so why make the other buttons so small and hard to hit?
Because you don't grip the mouse on the left and right mouse buttons? Personally, I hate mice with large buttons on the sides... I'm glad Logitech realized that there shouldn't be buttons where you are actually holding the mouse.
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Tell them that their bonus will be based on the number of calls they've logged. ;p
But seriously, you should explain to them why it's so important to be able to measure what your team is doing. How else can you explain to upper-management that you need extra resources, for example? But if management is requesting full stats anyways, it sounds like your team doesn't have much choice.
I always thought most distros modify software too much... if they want to help out, why not join the upstream project so everyone can benefit? What are these patches that they are making that Mozilla wouldn't want in their code? Shouldn't they always be submitting their patches to Mozilla anyways? Isn't that the proper open source etiquette thing to do if you change the software? If Debian is so determined on making a Firefox derivative, then I don't see a problem with Mozilla requesting that they stop associating their name with it (especially since people say it ends up being a buggier version). Imagine if MS Windows' latest security update included a modified Microsoft version of Firefox (with source code of course), don't you think Mozilla would be worried as well?
Anyone remember Microsoft announcing it's PDF replacement last year? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/27/042225 0
"Hey if we support PDF, we think Adobe might sue us, so PDF sucks! Don't use it! By the way we have this new format coming out called Metro, you should check it out..."
Ok, I see they used Linux and Mac OS X, but haven't seen anything about Final Cut Pro?
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They do have a response about that: http://orange.blender.org/blog/equipping-the-stud
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"We never said that wed work with exclusively open source software for every bit on the hard drive, because thats almost impossible (think closed source linux graphics drivers) and its not the point of this exercise. Apart from of course providing the final product as open content, the aim is to develop and improve open source graphics software by using it in a production environment in the real world - we arent going to be coding drivers or OSes here. We already have a bunch of Linux machines that we are using and testing in this way, maybe we will have a Sun box too. None of the things we do or the formats we use will be Mac only, (or Linux only for that matter). I personally think what were going through here is precisely part of our aims - practically testing these sort of things in the real world. People in the real world use Macs, so how can we find ways to promote and improve open source graphics software for them.
Reno, sorry I cant help you here, we arent using Windows at all. From all Ive heard GIMP pressure sensitivity works ok on there, but thats all I know.
Cheers,
Matt"
Where did you get this information from? From the credits it shows: Special Thanks to Open Source Projects Gimp Twisted Python Ubuntu Linux OpenEXR KDE Verse GNOME CinePaint DrQueue Inkscape Subversion Not that your wrong, but I just haven't heard that anywhere else...
I'm glad that they want to improve FOSS in this way, even for many projects that will probably never benefit Google directly. For example, anyone that uses Blender for animation would definitely say that last year's SoC project to add fluids simulation is an awesome feature: http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Fluids_simulation.675 .0.html
"being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word hacker to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end." Great esr quote from http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html.
Ya! Where's this free beer everyone's always talking about?
With all this noise being made about Sony's "DRM software", hopefully the general acceptance of DRM will be set back.