""Hey, we will arrest you. Crash your company. And or replace you. And we'll use illicit means to make it happen. Hell, we might just bump you off if you don't comply."
Isn't that what Putin has done to his political enemies. Well the ones that had the capability to defeat him.
"the feds can declare your argument "frivolous" and ignore it."
She just has to blast it on millions of computer screens. They won't be able to ignore the political outrage from the public over trying to jail a woman with a baby that is fighting government tyranny. Secret agencies and courts tend to fade away from scrutiny by the general public.
PS
I keep getting the feeling that hollywood was trying to tell us about this for decades but we weren't listening because we thought it was entertainment and wouldn't believe it would happen to us. The movies of the last few decades sure described a lot of the current issues. Either that or hollywood was trying to program us to be insensitive to the changes.
"Eventually businesses have to comply with government demands, as refusal to do so results in either official action"
Just use the SOPA response. If the government tries anything Google just has to blast what's going on on every screen in America. Bad behavior doesn't survive under public scrutiny for long, especially bad government behavior. The Feds will be backpedaling so fast it might uncover other meddling.
The story is Google marketing BS as Google is trying to save face after the Snowden revelations. As a company beholding to stockholders they have to do something. As for people being to rich to buy, the government doesn't have to buy them just threaten to take the money/whatever away.
"They didn't want to know, so they ignored evidence that it was leaking."
If you had tfa'd, you would have noticed that Akiba had the monitor readings submitted to the internet. That way the public knows immediately if something is going on and TEPCO is fucking them around. That's why TEPCO would 'never!!' implement such a system because they could be held accountable for their behavior which is something no business wants. Especially a company with real public responsibilities that's already at the bottom of the credibility ladder like TEPCO. As to his post, Akiba already has devices being used in the exclusion zone so he is qualified to write up what he has.
"Also, we need to update our laws and property rights so that companies don't simply forfeit all 4th amendment protections because their data is on somebody else's hardware in somebody else's data center. Yes, I realize that should already be the case, but as a practical matter it isn't. We need to reform that or you can forget it."
When we the public get that level of privacy then we will talk about companies, not before. And yes, for the public this should already be the case and also for companies as well.
Korea is a dinky little country that was nearly destroyed 50 years ago. It's easy to build up from nothing with help from a big partner. The US has hundreds of years of outdated infrastructure over a large area to deal with on its own so updating is going to be expensive and time consuming. This leaves out the basic issue with cloud services that they are only useful in town near the servers and high density infrastructure by design. Everywhere else the cloud is just too unreliable. When it's down, you're down, for as long as they find it necessary.
"It also will cause all sorts of trouble to quoting. How will teachers handle this if a student quotes a text but the quote differs slightly from the version the teacher has read? One of the most important things we teach students is that quotes need to be exactly as they appear, with any omissions or changes clearly marked."
What makes you think students haven't already gotten in trouble over this? I see lawsuits on the horizon for colleges who kicked out students that this crap caused. Something about false accusations.
"Not voting is also a vote. When there is no real difference between the candidates offered, how do you protest?
"If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice" -- Rush."
Carlin said it better. "People always say if you don't vote you have a no right to complain. If you vote for a candidate and he screws everything up. you are responsible. You voted him in. I, on the other hand, who did not vote. Who didn't even show up on election day. Have every right to complain about the mess you made that I had nothing to do with." -- condensed George Carlin
The sad part is he was making real complaints pointing out real problems and people thought it was funny.
"Security supposedly means protecting our freedom"
Key word "supposedly". In this case "supposedly" didn't happen.
"they are one and the same"
No they aren't, security and freedom are near polar opposites. As with security you cannot have freedom and with freedom you can't have security. Real free states are somewhere in between with security and freedom being relative.
Essentially dictatorships are free states for the dictators just like democracies are free states for the mob.
2."Constitutional is a subset of lawful. It means that some particular action is allowed by the laws set forth in the Constitution. There is no action that is also lawful that is simultaneously not also constitutional."
Written word like all communication is rarely correct in all situations. Context is important. In the first(1) posters' context, lawful is "as passed by congress" and constitutional as "allowed under the constitution" which supersedes congressional and presidential authority. Yours(2) is all laws are the same regardless of context which is actually wrong in the previous context and current usage.
"Oh, I see. By "Constitutional", you mean "whatever I think the Founding Fathers (hallowed be their name) would have thought""
Context again. Without knowing the intent of the writers, we won't understand the intended meaning of the wording in the Constitution and it could therefore be manipulated to mean anything. Without history, how can we know who we are?
"We're adults, and we need to take responsibility for figuring out our own shit."
But that's never done in a vacuum. Without knowing where we've been and having supports from then, how do you ever hope to make anything that will work better?
"Yes, they were very bright people with some very interesting insights into political and governmental structures,"
Those same people wrote the founding documents of our country that we still use to this day. Don't like their input, write a new constitution and survive the bloody onslaught to get it implemented. Otherwise shut the hell up as you don't know what you're talking about.
I know this is probably a troll but garbage like the parent comment shouldn't go unanswered. The guy should spend some time in Cardinal Richelieu's torture chamber.
fake sig: As I stare into the monolith that is slashdot and I hear myself exclaim "My god, it's full of morons".
"Is Monsanto going to sue the County it is growing in too, or just the farmer on whose land it is found?"
Now it's time for Monsanto to be sued by everyone. Countries and Class actions allowed and Monsanto isn't allowed to shell company/bankruptcy away from this. Sue and break them for contaminating the worlds food supply and lets kill a few execs as well just for 'examples' of why they should have been more careful.
"...) Why does anyone care? So they have an iris scan, what good is it to them if you never do anything wrong! In one way it's a really good thing they took these because now they can automatically exclude innocent parties from being accused. It's like genetic profiling, you only hold back from getting a genetic test done if your guilty or an idiot, the innocent offer them up in heart beat and never look back."
Only a simple response is needed. Corruption, if they want of get you, you're giving them ammo to falsely accuse you.
"In 2011, 31,000 people died firearm-related deaths."
And how many of those were suicides, accidents, etc other than actual murder? Remember firearm-related, like drunk-driving, has a very broad meaning. Example: an vehicle accident but it's firearm-related because one driver had a gun rack over the back seat.
From your own link murders were only 11,101. More people died from just about everything else including old age. In a land of 300 million people it's just a blip.
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""Hey, we will arrest you. Crash your company. And or replace you. And we'll use illicit means to make it happen. Hell, we might just bump you off if you don't comply."
Isn't that what Putin has done to his political enemies. Well the ones that had the capability to defeat him.
" and being in contempt of a secret court if you refuse to do so or talk about it, is the slippery slope we've slid down."
And it is the duty of every american citizen to challenge and defeat such tyranny at every turn. The true treason is bending over for it.
"the feds can declare your argument "frivolous" and ignore it."
She just has to blast it on millions of computer screens. They won't be able to ignore the political outrage from the public over trying to jail a woman with a baby that is fighting government tyranny. Secret agencies and courts tend to fade away from scrutiny by the general public.
PS
I keep getting the feeling that hollywood was trying to tell us about this for decades but we weren't listening because we thought it was entertainment and wouldn't believe it would happen to us. The movies of the last few decades sure described a lot of the current issues. Either that or hollywood was trying to program us to be insensitive to the changes.
"It's easier to ask forgiveness than permission."
But it may not be safer.
"I've never been quite so insulted in a manner that made quite so little sense in my life."
You're obviously not married or dealt with menstrating or menopausal women before.
"Eventually businesses have to comply with government demands, as refusal to do so results in either official action"
Just use the SOPA response. If the government tries anything Google just has to blast what's going on on every screen in America. Bad behavior doesn't survive under public scrutiny for long, especially bad government behavior. The Feds will be backpedaling so fast it might uncover other meddling.
The story is Google marketing BS as Google is trying to save face after the Snowden revelations. As a company beholding to stockholders they have to do something. As for people being to rich to buy, the government doesn't have to buy them just threaten to take the money/whatever away.
"For those not sure why this is appropriate: the hypothetical teacher explains the rule, but not how to apply the rule or what use it is."
You've just described 'unix man pages' and why they suck.
"They didn't want to know, so they ignored evidence that it was leaking."
If you had tfa'd, you would have noticed that Akiba had the monitor readings submitted to the internet. That way the public knows immediately if something is going on and TEPCO is fucking them around. That's why TEPCO would 'never!!' implement such a system because they could be held accountable for their behavior which is something no business wants. Especially a company with real public responsibilities that's already at the bottom of the credibility ladder like TEPCO. As to his post, Akiba already has devices being used in the exclusion zone so he is qualified to write up what he has.
"Also, we need to update our laws and property rights so that companies don't simply forfeit all 4th amendment protections because their data is on somebody else's hardware in somebody else's data center. Yes, I realize that should already be the case, but as a practical matter it isn't. We need to reform that or you can forget it."
When we the public get that level of privacy then we will talk about companies, not before. And yes, for the public this should already be the case and also for companies as well.
Korea is a dinky little country that was nearly destroyed 50 years ago. It's easy to build up from nothing with help from a big partner. The US has hundreds of years of outdated infrastructure over a large area to deal with on its own so updating is going to be expensive and time consuming. This leaves out the basic issue with cloud services that they are only useful in town near the servers and high density infrastructure by design. Everywhere else the cloud is just too unreliable. When it's down, you're down, for as long as they find it necessary.
"Obama is not watching live drone feeds of your masturbating sessions."
His wife is though so give her a good show. If Obama isn't impotent because of all the shit flying in D.C. nevermind the country/world, he should be.
"We already have a plan for any aliens that come to to planet Earth....Battleship..and Rihanna will save us."
Ya. The aliens will take one look at those two and like the weasels on 'Roger Rabbit' laugh themselves to death!
"It also will cause all sorts of trouble to quoting. How will teachers handle this if a student quotes a text but the quote differs slightly from the version the teacher has read? One of the most important things we teach students is that quotes need to be exactly as they appear, with any omissions or changes clearly marked."
What makes you think students haven't already gotten in trouble over this? I see lawsuits on the horizon for colleges who kicked out students that this crap caused. Something about false accusations.
"Not voting is also a vote. When there is no real difference between the candidates offered, how do you protest?
"If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice" -- Rush."
Carlin said it better. "People always say if you don't vote you have a no right to complain. If you vote for a candidate and he screws everything up. you are responsible. You voted him in. I, on the other hand, who did not vote. Who didn't even show up on election day. Have every right to complain about the mess you made that I had nothing to do with." -- condensed George Carlin
The sad part is he was making real complaints pointing out real problems and people thought it was funny.
"1979 supreme court case ruling"
All supreme court rulings are the governments opinion, you still have your own and if enough agree the governments opinion doesn't mean shit.
"Security supposedly means protecting our freedom"
Key word "supposedly". In this case "supposedly" didn't happen.
"they are one and the same"
No they aren't, security and freedom are near polar opposites. As with security you cannot have freedom and with freedom you can't have security. Real free states are somewhere in between with security and freedom being relative.
Essentially dictatorships are free states for the dictators just like democracies are free states for the mob.
1. "Lawful is not the same as Constitutional."
2."Constitutional is a subset of lawful. It means that some particular action is allowed by the laws set forth in the Constitution. There is no action that is also lawful that is simultaneously not also constitutional."
Written word like all communication is rarely correct in all situations. Context is important. In the first(1) posters' context, lawful is "as passed by congress" and constitutional as "allowed under the constitution" which supersedes congressional and presidential authority. Yours(2) is all laws are the same regardless of context which is actually wrong in the previous context and current usage.
"Oh, I see. By "Constitutional", you mean "whatever I think the Founding Fathers (hallowed be their name) would have thought""
Context again. Without knowing the intent of the writers, we won't understand the intended meaning of the wording in the Constitution and it could therefore be manipulated to mean anything. Without history, how can we know who we are?
"We're adults, and we need to take responsibility for figuring out our own shit."
But that's never done in a vacuum. Without knowing where we've been and having supports from then, how do you ever hope to make anything that will work better?
"Yes, they were very bright people with some very interesting insights into political and governmental structures,"
Those same people wrote the founding documents of our country that we still use to this day. Don't like their input, write a new constitution and survive the bloody onslaught to get it implemented. Otherwise shut the hell up as you don't know what you're talking about.
I know this is probably a troll but garbage like the parent comment shouldn't go unanswered. The guy should spend some time in Cardinal Richelieu's torture chamber.
fake sig: As I stare into the monolith that is slashdot and I hear myself exclaim "My god, it's full of morons".
"Is Monsanto going to sue the County it is growing in too, or just the farmer on whose land it is found?"
Now it's time for Monsanto to be sued by everyone. Countries and Class actions allowed and Monsanto isn't allowed to shell company/bankruptcy away from this. Sue and break them for contaminating the worlds food supply and lets kill a few execs as well just for 'examples' of why they should have been more careful.
" The needs of the many outweighs the needs of the few or the one.. "I know, totally Star Trek", and it aptly applies in this situation."
If you have watched star trek it doesn't always work so well for them either.
"...) Why does anyone care? So they have an iris scan, what good is it to them if you never do anything wrong! In one way it's a really good thing they took these because now they can automatically exclude innocent parties from being accused. It's like genetic profiling, you only hold back from getting a genetic test done if your guilty or an idiot, the innocent offer them up in heart beat and never look back."
Only a simple response is needed. Corruption, if they want of get you, you're giving them ammo to falsely accuse you.
" Growing up my bus driver (and the kids) knew all the kids getting on and off anyhow.."
That's when the bus drivers were often shit paid mothers of some of the students. Now they're all shit paid, often rotated, contract workers.
"That won't work. You'd need a version with a padlock."
And made of space titanium.
" An hour and a quarter walk"
Actually, maybe you should thank them. You're probably in much better health than any of them, assuming any of them are still alive.
"Corporations are people, my friend."
Corporations are made up of people, my friend.
Fixed that for you.
And I'm not your friend.
"In 2011, 31,000 people died firearm-related deaths."
And how many of those were suicides, accidents, etc other than actual murder? Remember firearm-related, like drunk-driving, has a very broad meaning. Example: an vehicle accident but it's firearm-related because one driver had a gun rack over the back seat.
From your own link murders were only 11,101. More people died from just about everything else including old age. In a land of 300 million people it's just a blip.
" I happen to prefer Apple's "walled garden" to Google's "walled garden" "
And both suck versus FreeBSD's walled garden.