Does this surprise you? And does it surprise you that the focus still seems to be on Apple for what was a pretty hyper inflated sky is falling hysteria, and yet Google is let off scott free by the press and the folks buying into the "open" propaganda?
Sooooo, not releasing the code so every tom dick and harry can build a crappy one-off version which will utimate reflect badly on them instead of the indie developer? Sounds like Apple's thought process to me. But it's obviously okay since Google is doing it, right?
WHAT! Haven't you heard that Apple is Evil and Steve Jobs wants to track and eat your shiny baby and market it to look cool to the other fanbois? What that means is that this is not really a problem with Chrome because it's OPEN and it's really the problem of your iPhone because it's tracking the cell towers you go near and you should instead buy Android so Google can keep you safe by tracking EVERYTHING!!
On Slashdot Google gets off scott-free all the time. Most of the time it appears to be because people are taken in by their claim to be "open", when in fact they are not open. It's a reoccurring theme on tech sites and it's somewhat humorous to watch. It's like Republican vs Democrat. Each side just sticks to their idealogical talking points and will concede nothing. The brain dead commentary on Google vs Apple stories is usually more interesting than the article itself.
Obvious flame-baiting. Apple and Google both delay. Apple is evil, Google gets off scott-free because they use the word "open" with all their crap. Isn't this meme a bit old by now?
In this instance the fanbois win. Those that think that cell tower locations = phone location are incorrect. So it appears you are wrong and the fanbois were better informed, doesn't it?
And yet it still accomplishes the goal of explaining the true scope of the allegations rather than hedwards simplistic attempt to mislead everyone in his comment. Nice attempt to try and rip on someone who actually provided information on the topic.
A vast misrepresentation of the true scope of Apple's allegations, but if a misrepresentation is the only way you can chime in then I guess that's what you've got to do, right?
Objectively about the same as when you put someone in jail or execute them after they killed your wife/husband/child? Not much, the damage is already done, but there is a bit of psychological closure for the nation in crossing his name off the list.
Maybe we could have not started the second war in Iraq and instead focused on the task at hand, capturing/killing OBL?
I don't blame the military, they are simply tools to execute foreign policy, but the government hasn't exactly prioritized things appropriately if their goal was to get rid of OBL.
I guess that depends. Since the military doesn't really make the call on whether to perform a mission, it's a political call, then this didn't force the military to do anything. It may have forced political leaders to move forward on this military action, but if they weren't moving on it already maybe they should have been?
In short, this whole discussion is speculation. Blaming Wikileaks for any motivation in the timeline for this action is speculative at best and is just going to degerate into groups of people who tend to distrust government and those who tend to trust government. The comments are colored by which way each poster leans and really has no relevance to the reality that NO ONE on this site has any evidence whatsoever that Wikileaks had ANY affect on this week's events.
I think only the blind people trust that. How could anyone with any degree of intelligence legitimately believe that the government doesn't classify information and hide it to avoid exposing its misdeeds?
Actually his question is fair. Essentially WHO decides what secret is legal vs illegal? The corrupt government? Won't they just declare anything they don't want to disclose as a legal secret?
Wikileaks doesn't bother me. My government has run unchecked for too long and if the light of day hurts the cockroaches in Washington then they are free to leave.
Nice spin. Complete BS, but nice spin. OR, perhaps failed American foreign policy decisions put the special forces operators at greater risk by increasing the likelihood they will encounter enemy fire in their career? So, pretty much the opposite of what you said?
You counterarguments are so full of shit it is ridiculous. Essentially what you've said is "If you agree with me then I admit your evidence, if you don't agree with me I don't want to hear it". Go back to your compound George, your administration ended in January '09 and nobody is missing you.
Actually this sort of proves the government wrong. If this article is to be believed then Wikileaks actually caused us to kill a terrorist SOONER, so Wikileaks obvioiusly is helping our war on terror?
It's all how you spin it, and Wikileaks is NOT making us unsafe. Let's not invent BS arguments here, okay?
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Does this surprise you? And does it surprise you that the focus still seems to be on Apple for what was a pretty hyper inflated sky is falling hysteria, and yet Google is let off scott free by the press and the folks buying into the "open" propaganda?
Sooooo, not releasing the code so every tom dick and harry can build a crappy one-off version which will utimate reflect badly on them instead of the indie developer? Sounds like Apple's thought process to me. But it's obviously okay since Google is doing it, right?
WHAT! Haven't you heard that Apple is Evil and Steve Jobs wants to track and eat your shiny baby and market it to look cool to the other fanbois? What that means is that this is not really a problem with Chrome because it's OPEN and it's really the problem of your iPhone because it's tracking the cell towers you go near and you should instead buy Android so Google can keep you safe by tracking EVERYTHING!!
AHHHHHHHHHH, THE SKY IS FALLING!
On Slashdot Google gets off scott-free all the time. Most of the time it appears to be because people are taken in by their claim to be "open", when in fact they are not open. It's a reoccurring theme on tech sites and it's somewhat humorous to watch. It's like Republican vs Democrat. Each side just sticks to their idealogical talking points and will concede nothing. The brain dead commentary on Google vs Apple stories is usually more interesting than the article itself.
Obvious flame-baiting. Apple and Google both delay. Apple is evil, Google gets off scott-free because they use the word "open" with all their crap. Isn't this meme a bit old by now?
Droids are for fags who buy products copied from iPhones.
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Conversely, just because you DO own a car does not mean those who don't should suffer either.
disclaimer: Car owner who just hates any government ideas when it means more monitoring.
And sue them for exactly WHAT anti-trust violation?
The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!!
I know I'm mixing my metaphors here, but feel free to cry wolf somewhere else.
In this instance the fanbois win. Those that think that cell tower locations = phone location are incorrect. So it appears you are wrong and the fanbois were better informed, doesn't it?
And yet it still accomplishes the goal of explaining the true scope of the allegations rather than hedwards simplistic attempt to mislead everyone in his comment. Nice attempt to try and rip on someone who actually provided information on the topic.
A vast misrepresentation of the true scope of Apple's allegations, but if a misrepresentation is the only way you can chime in then I guess that's what you've got to do, right?
Anita stop the madness!!
Or he's a patriot to the few that think government should be accountable and honest?
Objectively about the same as when you put someone in jail or execute them after they killed your wife/husband/child? Not much, the damage is already done, but there is a bit of psychological closure for the nation in crossing his name off the list.
Maybe we could have not started the second war in Iraq and instead focused on the task at hand, capturing/killing OBL?
I don't blame the military, they are simply tools to execute foreign policy, but the government hasn't exactly prioritized things appropriately if their goal was to get rid of OBL.
IF? I love that word, it give us a wonderful escape clause from reality.
IF US forces had not trusted Afghan soldiers to participate in the Tora Bora assault then Bin Laden would have been smoked LONG ago?
IF US foreign policy did not flippantly involve the use of military force all over the world then maybe this wouldn't have been an issue at all?
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I think until we can confidently replace the phrases "may have" and "might have" with something more definite then this is just all speculation.
I guess that depends. Since the military doesn't really make the call on whether to perform a mission, it's a political call, then this didn't force the military to do anything. It may have forced political leaders to move forward on this military action, but if they weren't moving on it already maybe they should have been?
In short, this whole discussion is speculation. Blaming Wikileaks for any motivation in the timeline for this action is speculative at best and is just going to degerate into groups of people who tend to distrust government and those who tend to trust government. The comments are colored by which way each poster leans and really has no relevance to the reality that NO ONE on this site has any evidence whatsoever that Wikileaks had ANY affect on this week's events.
I think only the blind people trust that. How could anyone with any degree of intelligence legitimately believe that the government doesn't classify information and hide it to avoid exposing its misdeeds?
Actually his question is fair. Essentially WHO decides what secret is legal vs illegal? The corrupt government? Won't they just declare anything they don't want to disclose as a legal secret?
Wikileaks doesn't bother me. My government has run unchecked for too long and if the light of day hurts the cockroaches in Washington then they are free to leave.
Nice spin. Complete BS, but nice spin. OR, perhaps failed American foreign policy decisions put the special forces operators at greater risk by increasing the likelihood they will encounter enemy fire in their career? So, pretty much the opposite of what you said?
You counterarguments are so full of shit it is ridiculous. Essentially what you've said is "If you agree with me then I admit your evidence, if you don't agree with me I don't want to hear it". Go back to your compound George, your administration ended in January '09 and nobody is missing you.
Any other obvious evidence that makes his point that you plan on disallowing first? Perhaps a name change to rightwingdumbass might be in order?
Actually this sort of proves the government wrong. If this article is to be believed then Wikileaks actually caused us to kill a terrorist SOONER, so Wikileaks obvioiusly is helping our war on terror?
It's all how you spin it, and Wikileaks is NOT making us unsafe. Let's not invent BS arguments here, okay?