Shut up with the Evil Company scare tactics already. They are a company, they are trying to make money, serve customers AND protect their brand. Put those all in the same bowl, mix well, and then tell me if some compromises aren't necessary?
And I would also make the assertion that not only "Evilcorps" are hacked, but charities, squeaky clean companies, and little saintly grey haired grandmas are hacked. Apple/Sony/etc. aren't hacked because they are evil, they are hacked because they exist at all.
The are both malicious and the difference is HUGE. If you want to talk viruses then talk viruses, if you want to talk trojans then talk trojans, if you want to talk malware as a whole then talk about malware as a whole. Know what you are talking about. A virus is NOT a trojan and vice versa.
They made an accurate (and carefully crafted) statement that there were x number of viruses that affected PCs, and there were none that affected the Mac. Accurate, and while you want to try and make them out to be saying one thing, they didn't actually say it. I'm sorry if that blows your argument, but they can only be responsible for what they actually said, not what you THINK they were saying.
Agreed. I've noticed it too. In the end you have to shrug it off when they resort to the name calling nonsense you mentioned, but it's also become sort of the new cool. I've noticed a lot of posters that seem to be trying to sound cool by hating anything Apple (and trotting out fanboi and sheep labels) and ironically the method they use is accusing Apple users of just trying to look cool.
Despite the fact that the Nokia E61 existed in 2006, it obviously failed to make much of an impact on the wireless landscape. The poster was correct in that the iPhone and then the addition of Android phones have been what have caused this sudden data explosion.
Where again did I say I hate Israel? Are you able to read and comprehend the written word?
I said one of the reasons they hate us is because we blindly support Israel.
I'm not a cowardly moral relativist, nor am I an ignorant fool who can't read and who gives any country a blank check to be a an oppressive state, Jewish or Muslim or Christian. Pull your head out of your monster truck party politics and do a little critical thinking before replying next time.
Oh bullshit. They didn't start all this because they wanted a Caliphate. That is utter crap. They hate us because we put American boots on the ground in their holy land. They hate us because we blindly support Israel. They hate us because we are constantly meddling in their region of the world where we don't belong.
I'm not sympathetic to them, nor do I agree with their response, but US foreign policy has caused this hatred, not some desire for terrorists to take away our freedom. If we keep shitting on them then we shouldn't be surprised if more of them hate us and turn against us.
Again, not a fact unless you only want to spin it that way. The Apple OS is NOT $300 MSRP, I've never paid over $129 retail. You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about. You've cleverly framed the hardware comparison to make it favorable to your uneducated viewpoint, and to those equally uneducated who are inclined to believe this myth. Anyone who knows anything about Mac products and has experience knows your 300% markup claim is pure BS. Go peddle your lies somewhere else.
"Why do I get this weird feeling that we are on the downwards arm of a progress parabola, halfway between our best days, and the witch hunts and information control/manipulation of the religious fundamentalist dark ages?"
- Because we are? To be fair, I wouldn't blame just religion. I think there is plenty of blame to go around for greed and ego too, but either way you are correct, we are declining rapidly as a civilization. Funny thing when a Terminator movie spouts wisdom, "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves. "
Just out of curiosity, why did you say "good thing you said that as an AC?" If you knew who it was what would you have done? Bomb him? Invade his country? Capture and torture him at Guantanamo? Put a warrantless wiretap on his phone? Put him on a no-fly list because he had a dissenting opinion?
The US went into Vietnam because we were asked by FRANCE, who wanted to keep their little Asian colonial empire, which was rapidly ending as Vietnam was struggling for independence.
And no, he's not saying that 9/11 is the same as Vietnam, what he's saying is that we in American are a bunch of hypocrites. If someone does something to us, it's terrorrism, if we bomb the shit out of someone else, it's liberation. If we repel people attacking us we are heroes, if someone else does it it's terrorism. If someone captures our servicemen we expect humane treatment, if we capture one of theirs we torture them at guantanamo.
You can't have it both ways. We should not have been in Vietnam. We should not have been in Kuwait. We should not have been in Irag. Those last two things alone are what pissed of the Islamic nutjobs (American boots in their holy land) and caused them to plan and execute 9/11. Everyone else in the world looks at us and sees our hypocrisy. Most Americans are too busy waving the flag at the monster truck show to look deeply at how our country is behaving and face the harsh realities that we are not the world leaders in morality, justice and freedom that we like to think we are.
It is NOT in indisputable fact because I'm disputing it now. You shouldn't say dumb things like that because it makes you look simple.
If you were making an apples to apples comparison then it might hold water, but comparing just the hardware vs the hardware shows you don't have a clue what you're talking about. This has been debated time and again and it's useless to try and teach the blind to see. Wallow in your ignorance.
Yeah, that's the only reason Apple products sell, because they are cool and trendy.
If your analysis is indicative of the deductive skills of the average Android user then I have no worry about Android taking over the world, natural selection should take care of that threat . . . .
I think they actually did learn a lesson from the past. They now closely guard their technology before it's released so MS and Google can't start copying until the last minute. MS, despite their market share, is dead in the water. Their stock has gone nowhere in ten years. They've done almost nothing notable in ten years. They are still riding on their monopoly position, but they are sliding out of favor with more and more people as they get educated.
As for the fisher price analogy, that so ridiculously stupid it's not worth commenting on. Feel free to insert your head back into the sand now.
Well that's a stretch. Of course the converse is also true. The lock-down prevented someone from easily getting data from the phone because it would have to be jailbroken first. So really the lockdown turned out to be a good thing, didn't it?
Could you be any more full of shit? Apple doesn't record the information on their servers dipwad. Apple records information about cell towers and wifi spots to help with aGPS performance.
You've got to extract Google's penis out of your ass for a minute and you may be able to think a little clearer.
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Shut up with the Evil Company scare tactics already. They are a company, they are trying to make money, serve customers AND protect their brand. Put those all in the same bowl, mix well, and then tell me if some compromises aren't necessary?
And I would also make the assertion that not only "Evilcorps" are hacked, but charities, squeaky clean companies, and little saintly grey haired grandmas are hacked. Apple/Sony/etc. aren't hacked because they are evil, they are hacked because they exist at all.
Yes, of course, similar in the same way that both a Pinto and a Mercedes have tires.
The are both malicious and the difference is HUGE. If you want to talk viruses then talk viruses, if you want to talk trojans then talk trojans, if you want to talk malware as a whole then talk about malware as a whole. Know what you are talking about. A virus is NOT a trojan and vice versa.
Come on man, don't mess up his lack of understanding with facts.
They made an accurate (and carefully crafted) statement that there were x number of viruses that affected PCs, and there were none that affected the Mac. Accurate, and while you want to try and make them out to be saying one thing, they didn't actually say it. I'm sorry if that blows your argument, but they can only be responsible for what they actually said, not what you THINK they were saying.
I think you need to understand the difference between apples and oranges before you make the comparison. Yours is a forest/trees comparison.
Agreed. I've noticed it too. In the end you have to shrug it off when they resort to the name calling nonsense you mentioned, but it's also become sort of the new cool. I've noticed a lot of posters that seem to be trying to sound cool by hating anything Apple (and trotting out fanboi and sheep labels) and ironically the method they use is accusing Apple users of just trying to look cool.
Should have played the brown vs white card right away and saved the extra discussion.
Sit down and prepare yourself for a shock.
Despite the fact that the Nokia E61 existed in 2006, it obviously failed to make much of an impact on the wireless landscape. The poster was correct in that the iPhone and then the addition of Android phones have been what have caused this sudden data explosion.
Wow. Can you tell me what meds you were on when you posted that? I'd like to see if I can score some when I just want to sail away.
And what does that have to do with the point he just made?
Where again did I say I hate Israel? Are you able to read and comprehend the written word?
I said one of the reasons they hate us is because we blindly support Israel.
I'm not a cowardly moral relativist, nor am I an ignorant fool who can't read and who gives any country a blank check to be a an oppressive state, Jewish or Muslim or Christian. Pull your head out of your monster truck party politics and do a little critical thinking before replying next time.
we're not at war
Oh bullshit. They didn't start all this because they wanted a Caliphate. That is utter crap. They hate us because we put American boots on the ground in their holy land. They hate us because we blindly support Israel. They hate us because we are constantly meddling in their region of the world where we don't belong.
I'm not sympathetic to them, nor do I agree with their response, but US foreign policy has caused this hatred, not some desire for terrorists to take away our freedom. If we keep shitting on them then we shouldn't be surprised if more of them hate us and turn against us.
One more rule:
Don't take advice about Apple products from bromoseltzer, he doesn't know wtf he's talking about..
Again, not a fact unless you only want to spin it that way. The Apple OS is NOT $300 MSRP, I've never paid over $129 retail. You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about. You've cleverly framed the hardware comparison to make it favorable to your uneducated viewpoint, and to those equally uneducated who are inclined to believe this myth. Anyone who knows anything about Mac products and has experience knows your 300% markup claim is pure BS. Go peddle your lies somewhere else.
"Why do I get this weird feeling that we are on the downwards arm of a progress parabola, halfway between our best days, and the witch hunts and information control/manipulation of the religious fundamentalist dark ages?"
- Because we are? To be fair, I wouldn't blame just religion. I think there is plenty of blame to go around for greed and ego too, but either way you are correct, we are declining rapidly as a civilization. Funny thing when a Terminator movie spouts wisdom, "It's in your nature to destroy yourselves. "
Just out of curiosity, why did you say "good thing you said that as an AC?" If you knew who it was what would you have done? Bomb him? Invade his country? Capture and torture him at Guantanamo? Put a warrantless wiretap on his phone? Put him on a no-fly list because he had a dissenting opinion?
The US went into Vietnam because we were asked by FRANCE, who wanted to keep their little Asian colonial empire, which was rapidly ending as Vietnam was struggling for independence.
And no, he's not saying that 9/11 is the same as Vietnam, what he's saying is that we in American are a bunch of hypocrites. If someone does something to us, it's terrorrism, if we bomb the shit out of someone else, it's liberation. If we repel people attacking us we are heroes, if someone else does it it's terrorism. If someone captures our servicemen we expect humane treatment, if we capture one of theirs we torture them at guantanamo.
You can't have it both ways. We should not have been in Vietnam. We should not have been in Kuwait. We should not have been in Irag. Those last two things alone are what pissed of the Islamic nutjobs (American boots in their holy land) and caused them to plan and execute 9/11. Everyone else in the world looks at us and sees our hypocrisy. Most Americans are too busy waving the flag at the monster truck show to look deeply at how our country is behaving and face the harsh realities that we are not the world leaders in morality, justice and freedom that we like to think we are.
It is NOT in indisputable fact because I'm disputing it now. You shouldn't say dumb things like that because it makes you look simple.
If you were making an apples to apples comparison then it might hold water, but comparing just the hardware vs the hardware shows you don't have a clue what you're talking about. This has been debated time and again and it's useless to try and teach the blind to see. Wallow in your ignorance.
Yeah, that's the only reason Apple products sell, because they are cool and trendy.
If your analysis is indicative of the deductive skills of the average Android user then I have no worry about Android taking over the world, natural selection should take care of that threat . . . .
I think they actually did learn a lesson from the past. They now closely guard their technology before it's released so MS and Google can't start copying until the last minute. MS, despite their market share, is dead in the water. Their stock has gone nowhere in ten years. They've done almost nothing notable in ten years. They are still riding on their monopoly position, but they are sliding out of favor with more and more people as they get educated.
As for the fisher price analogy, that so ridiculously stupid it's not worth commenting on. Feel free to insert your head back into the sand now.
Well that's a stretch. Of course the converse is also true. The lock-down prevented someone from easily getting data from the phone because it would have to be jailbroken first. So really the lockdown turned out to be a good thing, didn't it?
Damn you for spouting truth!! AC was on a good ideological rant and you ruined it with common sense!!
Could you be any more full of shit? Apple doesn't record the information on their servers dipwad. Apple records information about cell towers and wifi spots to help with aGPS performance.
You've got to extract Google's penis out of your ass for a minute and you may be able to think a little clearer.