But then do you have a valid way for companies that produce the content to turn a profit? I'm willing to see non-intrusive ads that don't flash or talk, but the intrusive ads bug me, so I don't return to sites that have consistently intrusive ads.
But if we don't accept some ads, and if you are being honest, the cost of ads is miniscule in bandwidth cost.
Again, the points you make are valid, but I don't see any practical alternative.
I'd represent a small vertical market, but as a teacher, the idea of having something like this that is portable and with the capacity to wirelessly connect to a projector makes me salivate...
I already use a wireless slate connected to a desktop, but my sometimes less-than-legible handwriting and drawings always are more entertaining than the lesson itself. Still, I'm able to sit next to little Billy at the back of the room while taking notes on the "board." That kind of freedom is wonderful.
Connect the ability to take notes like that to the board with the more interactive activities like surfing the web and moving those images and things around...I'd be in heaven.
I get your point, and it's a good one, I do think you are oversimplifying the input capacity. This is about marketing, so they would show the most "innovative" features that would provide the Wow! factor. I'm hoping they would actually include the capacity for an onscreen keyboard and they just aren't showing it.
Even still, I can think of a lot of situations where this would be a good tool. Keyboards aren't always easy for drawing pictures...or things like that, so there is a place for that type of input. Also, there are times when standing, or sitting in a theater would make balancing the device, so I can type with two hands would be somewhat cumbersome.
I wouldn't put it passed MS to mess this up, but it isn't a done deal. The fact is, there is a lot of room in modern computing for all different types of input methods.
Note: I even admit in my profile I'm a bad web developer.
I have JFGI, but most of the stuff I've found leads me to articles I don't fully understand how to implement. I mostly code simple websites for my school and friends that have little db interaction, but I'd rather learn to do it right from the beginning, so if anyone has some links to good articles for beginners to understand how to properly secure their SQL code, I'd be happy for the help.
No kidding...those pictures are... degrading to women. If it wasn't for the articles, I wouldn't pick up Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. Are you one of those perverts that just buys it for the pictures. You and your ilk disgust me.
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Whew...that was close. She's gone now, but my wife was standing over my shoulder. Those girls are hot!
English is more robust than most people think. I always think it is funny when people take archaic terms like, "to ink a deal" and make fun of it for not being proper English. Ink has been used as a transitive verb since the 1500s.
I was really impressed, especially with the video embedding...that was incredible. I also liked that they blurred out faces in their images, but the didn't (couldn't?) in the video. I'm guessing that could be a privacy concern looming...
Wow, you are making a lot of assumptions. I am the first to admit when I make mistakes to my students, openly. Secondly, I don't give these tests, or use the method being discussed. I think empowering students to be teachers as well as a learning is perhaps the most important lesson I teach.
Where exactly do I say, "ignore the material errors"? I didn't say that. I suggested that a student who knows clearly the intent of the lesson, and chooses to force the issue has some culpability in the consequences.
Claiming that the lesson isn't taught because one student who understands sequential logic structure amongst a group of students who don't is developing a false dichotomy. For many of the students the lesson would be enlightening. If I had the time to develop perfect lessons, I would. But even then I might make a mistake.
a lesson that fails to teach this clearly and opens up more questions than it addresses
Come on man. Aren't you rhetorically stretching this a little? Are you seriously saying that this lesson, usually applied to younger students, really raises more questions than answers? It's an obvious lesson. For the rare student, it won't work, and as someone else mentioned, the teacher would have done well to wink at the student, and then move on, but in the real world that doesn't always work. I work in this environment everyday, but the first assumption made here is that the student was acting perfectly, and the teacher went overboard. Might it be that the teacher tried to wink at the child, but as smart kids are want to do, he kept at the issue to prove he was smarter than the teacher?
I readily admit, and have admitted numerous times that the teacher might be at fault, but as is usually the case, the teacher becomes the easy scapegoat.
The teacher might be totally at fault, but how would you know?
Point well taken, but the purpose isn't just to say "Gotcha!" It is to teach students to be careful. I can't believe I've been forced into defending a cliche like this test, but teachers seem to be continuously attacked for doing things just to exert their power. I'm sure that happens from time to time, but most of the time there is a point. It might be poorly explained, or improperly structured, but it isn't because we are sinister. It might even be Hanlon's razor in full effect.
Come on man. Look at my history here. I'm not saying to beat the student down. I'd argue the other way entirely. My original point was that a student arguing with a teacher when he knows the intent of the teacher is silly.
People around here were probably the most intelligent people in their classes, but teachers don't get the luxury of just teaching those kids. Often times, when the brightest kids hones in on a technical or logical flaw of a simple lesson, they obscure the larger meaning for the rest of the group. If the teacher attacked the student, and there are many teachers that would, then she was wrong. I get my feathers ruffled, when people automatically assume the teacher was oppressing the student.
Sorry to chew out at you, but I've had my fair share of run-ins with teachers who gave me "holier than thou" at school. It's ironic that I now work for the education system, though as tech support.
A much better solution to be sure; as long as the student wasn't being belligerent. That might or might not have been the case here.
First of all, I'm not a science teacher. I teach English. You are trying to create a false dichotomy. You certainly shouldn't teach people to blindly follow the rules, nor should you tell them to ignore them completely. Instead, you should teach them to pay attention to detail and to question what you are told. The exercise was originally intended to do that exact thing. To be fair, it has become somewhat of a cliche.
Sorry to chew out at you, but I've had my fair share of run-ins with teachers who gave me "holier than thou" at school. It's ironic that I now work for the education system, though as tech support.
Pshhh...I'm used to taking the woes of education on my shoulders. We do enough poorly that it isn't unwarranted. And I do hope you know my initial comment was made with tongue firmly stapled to cheek.
Knowing the student was right, a competent teacher would never engage in such an abuse of authority and abuse of a child in giving the "test" in the first place. Any teacher with power and control issues should consider a career change and leave the students alone.
I would be a bald-face liar if I pretended schools didn't have their share of abusive teachers. But do you really think giving one of these tests is abusive? Isn't that overstating it a little? There is a valid lesson for such a quiz. It's limited for sure, but isn't attention to detail important in science? Aren't there moments where the "ah-ha" moments that follow these things are beneficial?
With that said, I wouldn't argue that the teacher didn't take it too far, but without all the facts, might we also assume the student might have been belligerent?
Keep in mind, these tests aren't graded. They are meant to serve as a learning experience.
1. Read all of the instructions.
2. Clap your hands.
3. Shout out that you are at step 3.
4. Jump up and down.
5. Do not perform steps 2-4 !Important
6. Finish test
As a teacher, may I say, I would have considered stapling your lips shut.
Your science teacher most likely knew you were right. But, if you are smart enough to figure it out, you were also smart enough to know the intent of the lesson. If you really had that much of an issue with being non-literal, then you'd probably find it difficult to get dressed and make it to work. You were trying to prove your point, to prove your point. Now, if the assignment was graded, you'd have a right to be angry. It wasn't graded though. Those tests never are.
Ernest Hemingway, after being nominated for the Nobel Prize for The Old Man and the Sea said that story was just about an old man out fishing. Of course, he also added, if a story is compelling, and resonates with the human soul, symbols and parallels to real life would emerge. Of course he said this much crasser than my paraphrasing.
Yes, it does. The first time it happened, I can understand it. But they sent me a reminder that I didn't accept a spammer's spam after I reported it as spam - that makes them 100% worthless.
Or...it means there was a hole in their system, and instead of taking a moment to send an email to their tech department, you just decided to throw away the baby with the bath water.
I'm not sure what causes it, but the all or nothing approach, and holier than thou belief system that pervades the web is a little saddening. Sure they should have caught that error, but I'd venture a guess that you might have messed up now and then in whatever work capacity you have. Why not give them a chance, shoot them a message, and see if they fix the problem?
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Good points.
But then do you have a valid way for companies that produce the content to turn a profit? I'm willing to see non-intrusive ads that don't flash or talk, but the intrusive ads bug me, so I don't return to sites that have consistently intrusive ads.
But if we don't accept some ads, and if you are being honest, the cost of ads is miniscule in bandwidth cost.
Again, the points you make are valid, but I don't see any practical alternative.
I see your reality and raise you my fantasy...
I want one!
I'd represent a small vertical market, but as a teacher, the idea of having something like this that is portable and with the capacity to wirelessly connect to a projector makes me salivate...
I already use a wireless slate connected to a desktop, but my sometimes less-than-legible handwriting and drawings always are more entertaining than the lesson itself. Still, I'm able to sit next to little Billy at the back of the room while taking notes on the "board." That kind of freedom is wonderful.
Connect the ability to take notes like that to the board with the more interactive activities like surfing the web and moving those images and things around...I'd be in heaven.
Now if only they would actually make it...
I get your point, and it's a good one, I do think you are oversimplifying the input capacity. This is about marketing, so they would show the most "innovative" features that would provide the Wow! factor. I'm hoping they would actually include the capacity for an onscreen keyboard and they just aren't showing it.
Even still, I can think of a lot of situations where this would be a good tool. Keyboards aren't always easy for drawing pictures...or things like that, so there is a place for that type of input. Also, there are times when standing, or sitting in a theater would make balancing the device, so I can type with two hands would be somewhat cumbersome.
I wouldn't put it passed MS to mess this up, but it isn't a done deal. The fact is, there is a lot of room in modern computing for all different types of input methods.
It's not always a joke. We do still have some heroes...
Feuerstein
Note: I even admit in my profile I'm a bad web developer.
I have JFGI, but most of the stuff I've found leads me to articles I don't fully understand how to implement. I mostly code simple websites for my school and friends that have little db interaction, but I'd rather learn to do it right from the beginning, so if anyone has some links to good articles for beginners to understand how to properly secure their SQL code, I'd be happy for the help.
No kidding...those pictures are ... degrading to women. If it wasn't for the articles, I wouldn't pick up Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue. Are you one of those perverts that just buys it for the pictures. You and your ilk disgust me.
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Whew...that was close. She's gone now, but my wife was standing over my shoulder. Those girls are hot!
English is more robust than most people think. I always think it is funny when people take archaic terms like, "to ink a deal" and make fun of it for not being proper English. Ink has been used as a transitive verb since the 1500s.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=ink
I for one will...
I was really impressed, especially with the video embedding...that was incredible. I also liked that they blurred out faces in their images, but the didn't (couldn't?) in the video. I'm guessing that could be a privacy concern looming...
How exactly is this aggressive? They are introducing a service.
Sincerest thanks.
An English teacher
Wow, you are making a lot of assumptions. I am the first to admit when I make mistakes to my students, openly. Secondly, I don't give these tests, or use the method being discussed. I think empowering students to be teachers as well as a learning is perhaps the most important lesson I teach.
Where exactly do I say, "ignore the material errors"? I didn't say that. I suggested that a student who knows clearly the intent of the lesson, and chooses to force the issue has some culpability in the consequences.
Claiming that the lesson isn't taught because one student who understands sequential logic structure amongst a group of students who don't is developing a false dichotomy. For many of the students the lesson would be enlightening. If I had the time to develop perfect lessons, I would. But even then I might make a mistake.
Come on man. Aren't you rhetorically stretching this a little? Are you seriously saying that this lesson, usually applied to younger students, really raises more questions than answers? It's an obvious lesson. For the rare student, it won't work, and as someone else mentioned, the teacher would have done well to wink at the student, and then move on, but in the real world that doesn't always work. I work in this environment everyday, but the first assumption made here is that the student was acting perfectly, and the teacher went overboard. Might it be that the teacher tried to wink at the child, but as smart kids are want to do, he kept at the issue to prove he was smarter than the teacher?
I readily admit, and have admitted numerous times that the teacher might be at fault, but as is usually the case, the teacher becomes the easy scapegoat.
The teacher might be totally at fault, but how would you know?
See I would be the dissenting voice. As soon as a grade is involved, I'm on the kid's side. Argue until you get credit.
Point well taken, but the purpose isn't just to say "Gotcha!" It is to teach students to be careful. I can't believe I've been forced into defending a cliche like this test, but teachers seem to be continuously attacked for doing things just to exert their power. I'm sure that happens from time to time, but most of the time there is a point. It might be poorly explained, or improperly structured, but it isn't because we are sinister. It might even be Hanlon's razor in full effect.
Come on man. Look at my history here. I'm not saying to beat the student down. I'd argue the other way entirely. My original point was that a student arguing with a teacher when he knows the intent of the teacher is silly.
People around here were probably the most intelligent people in their classes, but teachers don't get the luxury of just teaching those kids. Often times, when the brightest kids hones in on a technical or logical flaw of a simple lesson, they obscure the larger meaning for the rest of the group. If the teacher attacked the student, and there are many teachers that would, then she was wrong. I get my feathers ruffled, when people automatically assume the teacher was oppressing the student.
Often times that simply isn't the case.
A much better solution to be sure; as long as the student wasn't being belligerent. That might or might not have been the case here.
First of all, I'm not a science teacher. I teach English. You are trying to create a false dichotomy. You certainly shouldn't teach people to blindly follow the rules, nor should you tell them to ignore them completely. Instead, you should teach them to pay attention to detail and to question what you are told. The exercise was originally intended to do that exact thing. To be fair, it has become somewhat of a cliche.
Pshhh...I'm used to taking the woes of education on my shoulders. We do enough poorly that it isn't unwarranted. And I do hope you know my initial comment was made with tongue firmly stapled to cheek.
I would be a bald-face liar if I pretended schools didn't have their share of abusive teachers. But do you really think giving one of these tests is abusive? Isn't that overstating it a little? There is a valid lesson for such a quiz. It's limited for sure, but isn't attention to detail important in science? Aren't there moments where the "ah-ha" moments that follow these things are beneficial?
With that said, I wouldn't argue that the teacher didn't take it too far, but without all the facts, might we also assume the student might have been belligerent?
Keep in mind, these tests aren't graded. They are meant to serve as a learning experience.
2. Clap your hands.
3. Shout out that you are at step 3.
4. Jump up and down.
5. Do not perform steps 2-4 !Important
6. Finish test
No more confusion.
As a teacher, may I say, I would have considered stapling your lips shut.
Your science teacher most likely knew you were right. But, if you are smart enough to figure it out, you were also smart enough to know the intent of the lesson. If you really had that much of an issue with being non-literal, then you'd probably find it difficult to get dressed and make it to work. You were trying to prove your point, to prove your point. Now, if the assignment was graded, you'd have a right to be angry. It wasn't graded though. Those tests never are.
You sir, are my new comment writing god.
Ernest Hemingway, after being nominated for the Nobel Prize for The Old Man and the Sea said that story was just about an old man out fishing. Of course, he also added, if a story is compelling, and resonates with the human soul, symbols and parallels to real life would emerge. Of course he said this much crasser than my paraphrasing.
That used to happen all the time to my old tv. A good whack on the side, and it was right as rain.
Or...it means there was a hole in their system, and instead of taking a moment to send an email to their tech department, you just decided to throw away the baby with the bath water.
I'm not sure what causes it, but the all or nothing approach, and holier than thou belief system that pervades the web is a little saddening. Sure they should have caught that error, but I'd venture a guess that you might have messed up now and then in whatever work capacity you have. Why not give them a chance, shoot them a message, and see if they fix the problem?