CSS is the only thing they own. DVD and MPEG are both openly published standards. I dunno about AC3.
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That may change with OSX, as it might be fudged to compile
Since MacOSX is supposedly POSIX compliant, it should compile with no problems. And someone else will probably code up a quick little aqua frontend, which would be ncessary for the Macintosh. I just wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an OS9 implementation.
Of course not. They're pissed that someone else was clever enough to make a business out of what they have stolidly refused to ackknowledge. Even if Napster is shot down and Gnutella is too slow to use, mp3s will continue to be traded on the net regardless. Mp3s have been traded on the net for as long as they've been in popular use.
It's funny to see them getting all hot and bothered over other people figuring out ways to make money from music. How can they claim mp3 companies are stealing business when for years they refused to even consider offering something similar? They've certainly had the opportunity.
Thats good to hear. It's the same way with Rurouni Kenshin--the tv series is dubbed by different people than the OVAs. (Tip: avoid Anime Works like the plague! I'm not sure if the subtitler even speaks Japanese!) The series dub (and sub) is horrible, but ADV did a good job with the OVAs.
No, it's not out of elitism that I say this--I have just never seen a dub that was half as good as the original. And many I have seen border on the unbearable. But I also hate dubs because it simply irks me to watch a show that has been modified from the original format. I hate hacked up network premiers of movies for the same reason. This is simply a personal preference of mine, but I don't think it's very unreasonable.
Is the Tenchi Muyo OVA you mention dubbed by the same people who did the series?
Not true at all. Windows behaves very differently on different sets of hardware. For some people, it hardly ever crashes, and for others it's unbearable. In other words, YMMV. When Windows does decide to act up, though, you're screwed. I would have to replace my BIOS in order for Windows to run properly, but Linux has no problem.
Sure, there are users who are totally clueless. But we're not talking about those users, we're talking about people who are competent enough to get hired as a sysadmin. And in this context, Linux isn't really much more difficult to admin than NT. Easier in my opinion, but that depends on how you look at it.
This is not news. Dubs are always bad. I've never seen a dub that I'd rather watch over the subtitled version, and I've seen some pretty bad subs too. The problem is, those bastards at Funimation don't give you a choice--there is no subtitled version available. Which is too bad, since it means I'm not going to be able to watch it--and I was at one point mildly interested in it. Maybe I can find the manga somewhere.
There is not one guy that is willing to help out or lend assistance without first indicating that they have been using Linux since "back in the day" and a
GUI interface is for idiots (go character cell!)
Then I guess you're just hanging around the wrong people. I hooked up with my local LUG about a year ago, they're just a great bunch of guys. They've always been there to help me out when I've run into problems. Perhaps you should see if there's a users group where you live?
They didn't just develop a Linux player, they published DVD-CCA's intellectual property, the decoding scheme for CSS.
Which they legally reverse engineered. CSS is not copyrighted, or patented, they claim it as a trade secret. Once a trade secret is discovered, there's nothing they can do about it. And nobody but themselves has any responsibility to maintain that secret.
Face it, using Napster to download MP3's is illegal and immoral
Illegal perhaps, but immoral? How can you justify making such sweeping statements? Whether or not it is immoral all depends on intent. When you download a song, are you doing so to try it out before you buy the CD or are you just trying to get a free ride? The former, while illegal, isn't in any way immoral while the latter is. Also, what about those who download mp3s when they already own the CD, to save the time of ripping it themselves? Again, technically illegal but in no way immoral or wrong.
Leave it to the MPAA to think up a business model based on suing their own customers;)
It would be much more sensible if they adopted a system similar to how Anime is treated. If there are no licensed distributors of an anime show in a given country, fansubs are basically given free reign to subtitle and distribute shows in those countries. But when an official distributor buys the rights, they hve to stop. This would still suck, but would be a hell of a lot better.
Then again, the MPAA has been acused of many things in the past but being sensible will never be one of them.
I see. So if a given platform has no licensed players available, everyone's SOL? They don't seem to think these things through very well. And I certainly don't understand how they can possibly fault us for trying to make one.
My DVD card just so happens to be Sigma Designs, unfortunately the only one they have any mention of Linux drivers for is the EM8400 chipset, which is designed for Internet streaming. I happen to have the EM8300. Figures.
You can't watch them on your Ford Econoline Van either.
Perhaps not, but my Linux PC has a DVD drive while the Econoline, I'm sure, does not. DVD drives are made for playing DVDs. And stopping people from playing DVDs they own even though there is a utility that would make this possible is wrong.
For the record, I installed the DVD stuff before I converted to Linux, and I am pissed off because that is a major reason why I can't just mkfs the Windows drive.
No it does not. It grants the copyright holder the exclusive right to distribute their works for a temporary amount of time. At least, it used to be temporary until Disney got it lengthened. What I'm most concerned about here is the control of personal use, which is far beyond what copyright law is supposed to govern.
As has also been pointed out before, there were several programs available years ago that allowed you to pirate DVDs, by taking the unencrypted video stream from a DVD player program and dumping it to a file. DeCSS is nothing special with regards to piracy.
And that's exactly what is so fucked up about this whole scenario. The MPAA is using Copyright law. Copyright gives them a temporary monopoly over the reproduction of their works. Copyright was never intended to grant a sweeping monopoly over the use, production, and distribution of copyrighted works. This is exactly the situation the Founding Fathers were afraid of happening.
My question still stands, though. Are they gonna lock me up for watching DVDs I payed for?
The DMCA isn't just a stupid law, its an unconstitutional law. And if this is found to be so in a court of law, then it will be taken out of law. That makes the fact that it's stupid rather important.
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Hear, hear! Windows runs so poorly on my computer, I can't even get my dvd decoder working long enough to watch a movie.
CSS is the only thing they own. DVD and MPEG are both openly published standards. I dunno about AC3.
Since MacOSX is supposedly POSIX compliant, it should compile with no problems. And someone else will probably code up a quick little aqua frontend, which would be ncessary for the Macintosh. I just wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an OS9 implementation.
It's funny to see them getting all hot and bothered over other people figuring out ways to make money from music. How can they claim mp3 companies are stealing business when for years they refused to even consider offering something similar? They've certainly had the opportunity.
Thats good to hear. It's the same way with Rurouni Kenshin--the tv series is dubbed by different people than the OVAs. (Tip: avoid Anime Works like the plague! I'm not sure if the subtitler even speaks Japanese!) The series dub (and sub) is horrible, but ADV did a good job with the OVAs.
Is the Tenchi Muyo OVA you mention dubbed by the same people who did the series?
Not true at all. Windows behaves very differently on different sets of hardware. For some people, it hardly ever crashes, and for others it's unbearable. In other words, YMMV. When Windows does decide to act up, though, you're screwed. I would have to replace my BIOS in order for Windows to run properly, but Linux has no problem.
Sure, there are users who are totally clueless. But we're not talking about those users, we're talking about people who are competent enough to get hired as a sysadmin. And in this context, Linux isn't really much more difficult to admin than NT. Easier in my opinion, but that depends on how you look at it.
No, it definately is not. I've heard that the original Japanese version is halfway decent, but I certainly can't tell that from the dubbed version.
I see you have a quote from Rurouni Kenshin in your sig--now that's a quality anime series if there ever was one!
This is not news. Dubs are always bad. I've never seen a dub that I'd rather watch over the subtitled version, and I've seen some pretty bad subs too. The problem is, those bastards at Funimation don't give you a choice--there is no subtitled version available. Which is too bad, since it means I'm not going to be able to watch it--and I was at one point mildly interested in it. Maybe I can find the manga somewhere.
Then I guess you're just hanging around the wrong people. I hooked up with my local LUG about a year ago, they're just a great bunch of guys. They've always been there to help me out when I've run into problems. Perhaps you should see if there's a users group where you live?
Which they legally reverse engineered. CSS is not copyrighted, or patented, they claim it as a trade secret. Once a trade secret is discovered, there's nothing they can do about it. And nobody but themselves has any responsibility to maintain that secret.
Illegal perhaps, but immoral? How can you justify making such sweeping statements? Whether or not it is immoral all depends on intent. When you download a song, are you doing so to try it out before you buy the CD or are you just trying to get a free ride? The former, while illegal, isn't in any way immoral while the latter is. Also, what about those who download mp3s when they already own the CD, to save the time of ripping it themselves? Again, technically illegal but in no way immoral or wrong.
It would be much more sensible if they adopted a system similar to how Anime is treated. If there are no licensed distributors of an anime show in a given country, fansubs are basically given free reign to subtitle and distribute shows in those countries. But when an official distributor buys the rights, they hve to stop. This would still suck, but would be a hell of a lot better.
Then again, the MPAA has been acused of many things in the past but being sensible will never be one of them.
Hey, that's really cool! Have you released this at all, or is it just a personal project? I've been looking for a utility like this for some time.
My DVD card just so happens to be Sigma Designs, unfortunately the only one they have any mention of Linux drivers for is the EM8400 chipset, which is designed for Internet streaming. I happen to have the EM8300. Figures.
Perhaps not, but my Linux PC has a DVD drive while the Econoline, I'm sure, does not. DVD drives are made for playing DVDs. And stopping people from playing DVDs they own even though there is a utility that would make this possible is wrong.
For the record, I installed the DVD stuff before I converted to Linux, and I am pissed off because that is a major reason why I can't just mkfs the Windows drive.
No it does not. It grants the copyright holder the exclusive right to distribute their works for a temporary amount of time. At least, it used to be temporary until Disney got it lengthened. What I'm most concerned about here is the control of personal use, which is far beyond what copyright law is supposed to govern.
As has also been pointed out before, there were several programs available years ago that allowed you to pirate DVDs, by taking the unencrypted video stream from a DVD player program and dumping it to a file. DeCSS is nothing special with regards to piracy.
According to the analysis of CSS, under eighteen seconds on a decent machine.
As I understand it, it's only valid in New York. And this has nothing to do with MP3s, just the DeCSS program.
Just bear in mind that these people should be treated similarly as script kiddies who call themselves "Hackers."
My question still stands, though. Are they gonna lock me up for watching DVDs I payed for?
The DMCA isn't just a stupid law, its an unconstitutional law. And if this is found to be so in a court of law, then it will be taken out of law. That makes the fact that it's stupid rather important.
That's true, we would have ended up in appeals anyway. And this was such a patently rediculous ruling that it should help our argument a bit.