I would, too, that's for sure. I live in Omaha, and I was disappointed that I couldn't show up. I know several people personally that would do so as well, and I'd even get in touch with the local LUG. It isn't very likely that it would be here, though. Not likely at all--the DVD CCA is probably located in Santa Clara which is why this was held there. If not, I'd appreciate a correction.
True, but warez d00dz would never get off their asses to assemble in the courthouse like those guys did. It emphasizes that we're not all insidious h4x0rs and pirates.
I don't have the exact specs, but you don't need them. Go sit in front of a tv at the same proximity you do a monitor--get's really fuzzy. hurts the eyes. Monitors are of a much higher quality.
Where did you get that from? No, it was not. It was part of the Livid project--Linux Video and DVD. Windows dll's were compiled later, but whoever did that was in no way part of the project.
if I want to watch, say, a crappy film -- "Shawshank Redemption," for example...
Dude, I think you're just asking for flames here.:)
Whether a movie happens to be good or bad isn't always black and white. True, there are indesputably "good" movies and there are deffinately indesputably "bad" movies... but there are many more that are just a matter of taste. Shawshank? Overly sentimental? Hmm. I've seen many critically aclaimed movies that I thought were overly sentimental. (though you probably would too)
There are movies as an art form, and movies as entertainment. Each has a purpose, and they don't always intersect.
Seriously, though, it would vary quite a bit depending on the movie. Some would fit, some won't. The point is, do you really want to deal with it? I just don't think it's worth the trouble.
As a side note, the Matrix is 7.7 gigs for the video and 8.1 gigs for the whole thing, well within my original estimate.
Whether they're saying it or not, they do believe that piracy will be the end of them, which is not true. This is not new. They've caused a fuss over home video, cassette tapes, minidics, and DATs. For the very same reasons. And in each situation it has turned out to actually make them money. Besides, it is simply not practical at all to pirate a DVD.
I'm just annoyed by the whole situation. They're always whining about new technology that might be misused against them, and they never learn from history. *sigh*
Stated clearly on the surface of my Matrix DVD: "NO COPYING". If it is within my legal rights to copy it for backup purposes, then why does it forbid copying of any kind? DVD is an infringment of fair use.
I may have misunderstood the purpose of fair use (I have a strong allergy to legalese), but it should be very much within my rights to watch a DVD I have legitamately acquired on my computer. I cannot. This is not right.
That's one of the biggest false assumptions they make! DVD piracy bringing down the industry? hah!
What of the music industry? Piracy is prevelant. Just jump on an IRC mp3 channel, you'll see what I mean. Thing is, the industry is still alive and well! With so much piracy going on, why didn't they crumble? Why, indeed?
It gets better. Do you have any idea how big a cracked DVD would be? 6 to 9 gigs at least. Do you want to set aside that much space for a movie? I didn't think so. Current burnable DVD's aren't large enough to hold them, either. So how would you distribute? The Internet? no way am I downloading a nine gig file off the Internet with my dial-up connection! You'd need a T1 at least--more like a T3. How many people have one of those at their disposal? So, when you think about it, is it really worth it to do all of that then to go down to your nearest retailer and spend 20 bucks for a legitamate copy? No! Piracy is not even close to worth it for DVD's, no matter what the lawyers want you to think.
Very good point. I, for one, won't be buying any more dvd's until this is sorted out.
But I think this is more than just a huge corporation attempting total control of a market. This is also yet another case of faceless, corporate America butting heads with Linux, powered by individuals. We are two entirely different cultures. They simply don't grok the Linux community. They don't understand the "if you won't do it, I'll do it myself" mentality. I think that mainstream acceptance of the open source model just may help to solve this a little--maybe, although there will always be people that think this way.
What they need to realize, when it comes down to it is: if there's an itch to be scratched, dammit, it will be.
With all of this crap going on about the Linux DVD project getting shut down, I've been really pissed at these guys. Really. Not only are they calling a project with the pupose of watching movies piracy, they're attempting to take the DeCSS code off of the Internet.
Trying to get something off the Internet is like trying to get pee out of a swimming pool. Once it's in there, it's in there. The fact that they're trying to proves that they're not evil like I've come to believe, but merely idiots. They think any form of copy is illegal, the only purpose of decrypting a DVD is piracy, and that we apparantly shouldn't be allowed to watch DVD's in the operating system of our choice. (An obvious infringment of fair use)
Will someone ever come along with the money/time to take on these morons? Or will be doomed to be bullied by them? I'm really getting sick of hearing how they're taking away my rights.
Oh come off it. He's been working hard on Linux for the past eight years, it's not as if he handed it off to someone else after hacking up the first kernel. What of the coding he and others are doing to move from kernel 2.3 to 2.4? And the USB project, especially. He's been working on that, too. As long as he is in control of the linux kernel developement, he will continue to be an influence.
God, I wish I could accomplish half the stuff he does in a single year.
Name one thing Bezos did this year that qualifies as influencial. I can't think of a damned thing. He certainly did a lot of good years ago when Amazon first started, but internet commerce sites are a dime a dozen nowadays.
Besides, it doesn't matter if they happened to have done anything this year, only that their works have caused influence.
Is this justification for the personal attacks on JB? He was the diabolical mastermind behind the patent thing, right? Suuuuuure he was!
That doesn't matter. He may not have thought up the idea in his own head, but he went along with it. He is ultimately responsible for his company, and if it decides to do something as greedy, vindictive, and just plain evil as patenting a system based on open standards, than he is to blame. You can't tell me he didn't have a say in this, and I seriously doubt he would ever have stopped it.
I don't argue that Amazon.com was a really cool idea when it started, but I agree with the boycott because I will not stand idly by while huge corporations lay another brick in the stonework of Microsoft's plan to close-source the Internet. If you're not helping to keep the system open, you're helping to destroy it. Barnes & Noble may not even be the best choice for an alternative, but that doesn't matter. As many have said before me, there are lots of places to get the things Amazon peddles. They're nothing special anymore, not by a long shot.
I know this sounds terribly cliche, but Linus does deserve the award far more than Bezos. The award is for overall influence, and he has influenced quite a lot. Not only that, but he has remained totally humble and honest through it all. Certainly a man to respect, no doubt about it.
Are you trying to say that Crichton movies stay true to the books? Maybe you should go re-read Jurassic Park (Hammond dies, just to name one difference) and especially The Lost World--completely different than the movie. (The book didn't suck).
Sphere was okay, but they chopped out huge sections of the story to the point where it was really hard to follow (and still fricking long).
I havn't seen very many books that translate into movies very well. They did an admirable job with Dune, but pausing the story so you can hear everyone's thoughts gets real annoying. Jurassic Park, however, made a better movie than a book I think. The Lost World was exactly the opposite, as well as Sphere. Problem is, it's getting increasingly hard to tell a coherent story in the movies, because everyone's so wrapped up in the effects. And many of the ones that do end up being really sappy (any of Williams' movies as of late). Oh well. True sci-fi has never been very mainstream, and I doubt it ever will.
I know for sure that the Operating System itself is Y2K compliant. Linux is based on Unix time, which means it counts up the seconds from Jan 1, 1970 and converts it into the standard format when needed. On a 32-bit architechture, it won't roll over until some time in 2038. Wouldn't this apply to the entire infrastructure?
In his (Klebold's, I think) own words: "That fucking shotgun is straight out of doom." So yes, they were actually playing doom. Something that everyone seems to be overlooking, however. These games may be really old on computers, but they just recently came out on gaming consoles! Doom and Duke3D came out on N64 only last year, I think. and Quake 2 just now came out on Playstation. Console gaming systems generally lag behind computer games by at least a couple of years, I've noticed. The article wasn't very clear about whether he was playing them on a computer or a playstation/Nintendo, so they may actually be referring to the Playstation/Nintendo versions of these games.
I noticed that, too. Actually, at the time, 3D Realms would have still been called Apogee. I don't think they had anything to do with Doom, though. The first I remember seeing them use the new name was with Duke3D.
C|Net has been a good Linux supporter for some time now! They've had a Linux section on download.com for some time, and have written many different articles and FAQs on it. Even ZDNet has begrudgingly added their own Linux section, albeit a tiny little corner.
I did notice, however, that they seemed to be downplaying all of the harder distro's as if only newbies would be reading this. Personally, I think they should have put a newbie disclaimer at the top of the review and reviewed its strengths and weaknesses to us experienced users, not the new guys.
I dunno. Although it's always a good thing for another M$ competitor to enter the market, and certainly cool to see a microkernel in action, what next? We've all put so much effort and time and code into Linux, are we supposed to just dump it as soon as HURD becomes usable? Where can it fit in in all of this?
Mozilla's biggest advantage is standards. It will be completely based on standards, which is exactly why it is vitally important to the future of the Internet.
How many have read through the halloween documents? M$ Wants the Internet. Bad. How would they do that, though? decommoditization of protocols as the author of that email put it. In other words, close-sourcing the Internet. That would sure put a crimp in the *nix marketshare, wouldn't it? But how would they do this? Simple:
Basing their dominant browser on standards, but adding in their own proprietary "plug-ins" that add extra features that we would eventually become dependant on, despite the fact that it would be just as easy (easier, even) to write a java applet. I know java ain't that stable on Communicator, but that's besides the point--it's open. So, rally behind Netscape! Even when you have to use Winblows, use Communicator! We'll be stuck with it for now, but we'll be rewarded with Mozilla later on. Forgoe downloading Shockwave or Flash plugins, boycott sites that use them! If we all go along with it, it won't go away.
Copy Protection: A clever method of preventing incompetent pirates from stealing software and legitimate customers from using it.
Windows is not where Netscape is going to shine. I think M$ has pretty much demonstrated that no matter how cool your stuff is, they own the turf--and they control it depending on their own interests.
Where Netscape is going to shine is in the Linux/*nix market, where there is a definate void for a decent browser. Communicator's nice and all, but I want Mozilla! Didn't I switch to Linux to avoid instability?
Copy Protection: A clever method of preventing incompetent pirates from stealing software and legitimate customers from using it.
As explained by Rob Malda himself, in the interview on the geeks in space page, it was named slashdot because he wanted the hardest name to pronounce he could think of. Say http://slashdot.org out loud and you'll get it.
And as for the last bit about the *BSDs being "too late", the BSD kernel codebase has been around for a lot longer than the Linux kernel...
He's not talking about the codebase. Because of the lawsuit early on, Linux was able to get a head start on BSD (not sure what flavor, though). Since then it has been playing catch-up. Otherwise, it would probably have been the dominate *nix OS.
heh heh, have you actually looked at the sticker price for those babies? OUCH! Sure, they're awesome machines, and if I could afford one, I would grab one in a second. But, sadly, I'm not rich. Neither are most other consumers who buy this stuff. So, we all must stick with x86 for the price. There's more software available for it, anyways.
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I would, too, that's for sure. I live in Omaha, and I was disappointed that I couldn't show up. I know several people personally that would do so as well, and I'd even get in touch with the local LUG. It isn't very likely that it would be here, though. Not likely at all--the DVD CCA is probably located in Santa Clara which is why this was held there. If not, I'd appreciate a correction.
True, but warez d00dz would never get off their asses to assemble in the courthouse like those guys did. It emphasizes that we're not all insidious h4x0rs and pirates.
I don't have the exact specs, but you don't need them. Go sit in front of a tv at the same proximity you do a monitor--get's really fuzzy. hurts the eyes. Monitors are of a much higher quality.
Where did you get that from? No, it was not. It was part of the Livid project--Linux Video and DVD. Windows dll's were compiled later, but whoever did that was in no way part of the project.
Dude, I think you're just asking for flames here. :)
Whether a movie happens to be good or bad isn't always black and white. True, there are indesputably "good" movies and there are deffinately indesputably "bad" movies... but there are many more that are just a matter of taste. Shawshank? Overly sentimental? Hmm. I've seen many critically aclaimed movies that I thought were overly sentimental. (though you probably would too)
There are movies as an art form, and movies as entertainment. Each has a purpose, and they don't always intersect.
Seriously, though, it would vary quite a bit depending on the movie. Some would fit, some won't. The point is, do you really want to deal with it? I just don't think it's worth the trouble.
As a side note, the Matrix is 7.7 gigs for the video and 8.1 gigs for the whole thing, well within my original estimate.
I'm just annoyed by the whole situation. They're always whining about new technology that might be misused against them, and they never learn from history. *sigh*
I may have misunderstood the purpose of fair use (I have a strong allergy to legalese), but it should be very much within my rights to watch a DVD I have legitamately acquired on my computer. I cannot. This is not right.
What of the music industry? Piracy is prevelant. Just jump on an IRC mp3 channel, you'll see what I mean. Thing is, the industry is still alive and well! With so much piracy going on, why didn't they crumble? Why, indeed?
It gets better. Do you have any idea how big a cracked DVD would be? 6 to 9 gigs at least. Do you want to set aside that much space for a movie? I didn't think so. Current burnable DVD's aren't large enough to hold them, either. So how would you distribute? The Internet? no way am I downloading a nine gig file off the Internet with my dial-up connection! You'd need a T1 at least--more like a T3. How many people have one of those at their disposal? So, when you think about it, is it really worth it to do all of that then to go down to your nearest retailer and spend 20 bucks for a legitamate copy? No! Piracy is not even close to worth it for DVD's, no matter what the lawyers want you to think.
But I think this is more than just a huge corporation attempting total control of a market. This is also yet another case of faceless, corporate America butting heads with Linux, powered by individuals. We are two entirely different cultures. They simply don't grok the Linux community. They don't understand the "if you won't do it, I'll do it myself" mentality. I think that mainstream acceptance of the open source model just may help to solve this a little--maybe, although there will always be people that think this way.
What they need to realize, when it comes down to it is: if there's an itch to be scratched, dammit, it will be.
Trying to get something off the Internet is like trying to get pee out of a swimming pool. Once it's in there, it's in there. The fact that they're trying to proves that they're not evil like I've come to believe, but merely idiots. They think any form of copy is illegal, the only purpose of decrypting a DVD is piracy, and that we apparantly shouldn't be allowed to watch DVD's in the operating system of our choice. (An obvious infringment of fair use)
Will someone ever come along with the money/time to take on these morons? Or will be doomed to be bullied by them? I'm really getting sick of hearing how they're taking away my rights.
God, I wish I could accomplish half the stuff he does in a single year.
Besides, it doesn't matter if they happened to have done anything this year, only that their works have caused influence.
That doesn't matter. He may not have thought up the idea in his own head, but he went along with it. He is ultimately responsible for his company, and if it decides to do something as greedy, vindictive, and just plain evil as patenting a system based on open standards, than he is to blame. You can't tell me he didn't have a say in this, and I seriously doubt he would ever have stopped it.
I don't argue that Amazon.com was a really cool idea when it started, but I agree with the boycott because I will not stand idly by while huge corporations lay another brick in the stonework of Microsoft's plan to close-source the Internet. If you're not helping to keep the system open, you're helping to destroy it. Barnes & Noble may not even be the best choice for an alternative, but that doesn't matter. As many have said before me, there are lots of places to get the things Amazon peddles. They're nothing special anymore, not by a long shot.
I know this sounds terribly cliche, but Linus does deserve the award far more than Bezos. The award is for overall influence, and he has influenced quite a lot. Not only that, but he has remained totally humble and honest through it all. Certainly a man to respect, no doubt about it.
Sphere was okay, but they chopped out huge sections of the story to the point where it was really hard to follow (and still fricking long).
I havn't seen very many books that translate into movies very well. They did an admirable job with Dune, but pausing the story so you can hear everyone's thoughts gets real annoying. Jurassic Park, however, made a better movie than a book I think. The Lost World was exactly the opposite, as well as Sphere. Problem is, it's getting increasingly hard to tell a coherent story in the movies, because everyone's so wrapped up in the effects. And many of the ones that do end up being really sappy (any of Williams' movies as of late). Oh well. True sci-fi has never been very mainstream, and I doubt it ever will.
I know for sure that the Operating System itself is Y2K compliant. Linux is based on Unix time, which means it counts up the seconds from Jan 1, 1970 and converts it into the standard format when needed. On a 32-bit architechture, it won't roll over until some time in 2038. Wouldn't this apply to the entire infrastructure?
In his (Klebold's, I think) own words: "That fucking shotgun is straight out of doom." So yes, they were actually playing doom. Something that everyone seems to be overlooking, however. These games may be really old on computers, but they just recently came out on gaming consoles! Doom and Duke3D came out on N64 only last year, I think. and Quake 2 just now came out on Playstation. Console gaming systems generally lag behind computer games by at least a couple of years, I've noticed. The article wasn't very clear about whether he was playing them on a computer or a playstation/Nintendo, so they may actually be referring to the Playstation/Nintendo versions of these games.
I noticed that, too. Actually, at the time, 3D Realms would have still been called Apogee. I don't think they had anything to do with Doom, though. The first I remember seeing them use the new name was with Duke3D.
I did notice, however, that they seemed to be downplaying all of the harder distro's as if only newbies would be reading this. Personally, I think they should have put a newbie disclaimer at the top of the review and reviewed its strengths and weaknesses to us experienced users, not the new guys.
I dunno. Although it's always a good thing for another M$ competitor to enter the market, and certainly cool to see a microkernel in action, what next? We've all put so much effort and time and code into Linux, are we supposed to just dump it as soon as HURD becomes usable? Where can it fit in in all of this?
How many have read through the halloween documents? M$ Wants the Internet. Bad. How would they do that, though? decommoditization of protocols as the author of that email put it. In other words, close-sourcing the Internet. That would sure put a crimp in the *nix marketshare, wouldn't it? But how would they do this? Simple:
Basing their dominant browser on standards, but adding in their own proprietary "plug-ins" that add extra features that we would eventually become dependant on, despite the fact that it would be just as easy (easier, even) to write a java applet. I know java ain't that stable on Communicator, but that's besides the point--it's open. So, rally behind Netscape! Even when you have to use Winblows, use Communicator! We'll be stuck with it for now, but we'll be rewarded with Mozilla later on. Forgoe downloading Shockwave or Flash plugins, boycott sites that use them! If we all go along with it, it won't go away.
Copy Protection: A clever method of preventing incompetent pirates from stealing software and legitimate customers from using it.
Where Netscape is going to shine is in the Linux/*nix market, where there is a definate void for a decent browser. Communicator's nice and all, but I want Mozilla! Didn't I switch to Linux to avoid instability?
Copy Protection: A clever method of preventing incompetent pirates from stealing software and legitimate customers from using it.
As explained by Rob Malda himself, in the interview on the geeks in space page, it was named slashdot because he wanted the hardest name to pronounce he could think of. Say http://slashdot.org out loud and you'll get it.
He's not talking about the codebase. Because of the lawsuit early on, Linux was able to get a head start on BSD (not sure what flavor, though). Since then it has been playing catch-up. Otherwise, it would probably have been the dominate *nix OS.
heh heh, have you actually looked at the sticker price for those babies? OUCH! Sure, they're awesome machines, and if I could afford one, I would grab one in a second. But, sadly, I'm not rich. Neither are most other consumers who buy this stuff. So, we all must stick with x86 for the price. There's more software available for it, anyways.