WTF are you talking about? The context of this thread is 3D printing vs CNC/lathing, and pointing out that both have their pros and cons, and can in fact complement each other quite well. Who cares if it's home or "professional"? We're talking about fundamentally different methods of creating parts.
The home kits will get better over time, just as 2D printers have. At this point in time I don't think the cost of home printers are worth it personally, hence I sent my designs elsewhere to be printed.
Oh, and the hollow sphere thing was what we call an "example". Ping pong balls are made in two halves, and have a significant weakness across the seam. If you can't think of any uses for being able to print objects within other objects with no assembly required (fully assembled ball bearings being a cool example), or being able to print a single piece item with a single piece external skin and an internal lattice structure, etc, that is entirely your own lack of imagination at fault. Feel free to never utilise 3D printing.
You may now continue to waste your life with your highly productive trolling.
I don't have a 3D printer myself, but I did get some stuff printed last week. I just sent them the model, and 2 days later I had my first ever 3D prints. Awesome.
When our CEO saw one of my prints, he was really interested. He asked if we could perhaps use the process to do faster and cheaper creation of future prototype models, and the answer is yes. I guess his little engineering hobby is just for kids though, it's not like it's made him a millionaire or anything.. oh, wait..
Okay.. so how do you create a single-piece hollow sphere on your combo lathe/mill? It seems to me that there are absolutely things that you can do with a 3D printer that you couldn't do with a lathe/mill..
It doesn't necessarily mean that it's "better", but it is different. And as one of those "non-mechanically minded" folks you mention, it does seem simpler to me from both a hardware and software perspective.
Okay - so more money for Mars and Tennent's, and less money to whatever else people were spending their food money on.
I was imagining cases where you can "grow" the economy, but that doesn't seem like one of them. Growth definitely isn't infinitely sustainable, at least while we're limited to Earth's resources, and especially if the population keeps exploding, spreading those resources more thinly..
Okay, but to ignore the idea that our human nature naturally results in social and economic disparity is just as absurd.
Like I said, you can't at the same time ask for "growth" in your own nation without expecting someone else somewhere to lose out. Now, it wouldn't really hurt the rich to lose a bit of their money for that, but how are you going to decide who the money comes from, and who gets it? And how long do you think before those people have all your money again, if you don't actually change your spending habits? If you keep buying foreign goods, music, movies, software, clothes, TV shows, food etc, then the money will be flowing out of your country..
Well, it's not like those making below a certain threshold really have enough spare cash to make worthwhile investments anyway.. having spare cash for investments is the reason that once you get to the 1% stage, it's so easy to stay there and just keep accruing more wealth.
I'm at 0.89% as of last year, and I'm only just now thinking I should probably buy a house. I hate being in debt - even such a "socially acceptable" debt as a mortgage.
Well, I only checked the icons since he said they "must" be loaded from Facebook, etc.
Anyone who does care about such things could log out when they're not using those sites, or use a separate browser for social sites, or block those domains from being accessed when they're not on the relevant site, do some types of browsing via proxy, etc etc etc. If you don't want these guys collecting your information to make your advertisements (if you don't block them) more relevant, simply stop handing out the information.. geez.
Well partially, as I said elsewhere, I don't get worked up that people in London make more money than me for example.
It's not apples to oranges though - you could save up some money, then go and live like a king in the "2nd/3rd world". You really are a lot richer than them, even if you are eating the same amount of calories a day or whatever.
If you're upset that you're not making enough money, why don't you retrain for a job with a higher salary?
Actually, yes, it is exactly how life works. Some species adapt better to their surroundings and dominate. Within social groups among animals, there is a pecking order. Those at the top get more mating opportunities, first dibs on food, etc..
Yes, most concepts in our society were made up by humans, which is why you need to think more carefully about them rather than just accept words like "growth".
Why do you expect that there should be 100% employment? Unless people start being used as personal servants or something, there may just not be enough jobs to go around. The obvious solution there is to stop having so many kids, rather than thinking that we can have infinite economic growth. Either that or you have to change society so that some people can just live without jobs (which already you can kind of do on government welfare).
Why do people keep expecting economic "growth"? Growth in one place seems to me to imply shrinkage in another area.. which is exactly what you're complaining about!
Of course I haven't studied economics, so maybe that's not how "growth" works. But common sense dictates that it is..
"Income equality" is a load of bullshit unless everyone is doing the same work, in the same place. I don't complain that people doing the same job as me in London make more money - because their cost of living is also much higher than mine. It's the same when you look to different countries too, the cost of living makes a difference.
Yes, the bank loans stuff was stupid, but that was the reason for the apparent economic crash recently - not the 1% / 99% divide that people love to bandy on about.
The "for some reason" is that everyone works for their individual benefit, or at least that of those close to them. That's how life has always worked.
I'm not sure why you would expect those people to give up what they and their family have worked for any more than you'd let random homeless people sleep in your house for free every night.
Some rich people do give money to good causes, and that's nice, but there shouldn't be a law to force them to do so. They're already being taxed quite highly anyway.. so as long as they're not tax dodging, I don't have a problem with them having more money than me.
Hmm, well since you're in the middle, I guess you'd better stop "stealing" from poorer nations, eh? You shouldn't ever trade with other countries, because you're obviously just stealing their money (by your logic).
So you're saying it's somehow bad when it's the relatively rich people in the US being "oppressed" by the 1%, but it's fine when we are doing the exact same thing on a global scale?
All I see are people bitching how unfair their lives are, while ignoring the 90% of people who have even less than themselves.
There are very, very few people in this world actively trying to oppress anyone. Most of this stuff just happens with no thought of malice. There will always be people who come out on top either through their own effort, or simple luck (location, family, etc).
Yeah, I'm sure he was planning on giving you and all your friends 20 cents.
Have you actually checked your position on the global "rich list"? You might actually be part of the 1%. I am, and I don't have anything to do with the finance market. I probably don't even make very much money compared to a lot of slashdotters, because I'm happy working in a small/medium business rather than being in a Fortune 500 or whatever.
I think the point is that we already have human brains that we can teach. There's no point having a computer pulling down a whole power station's worth of power just to simulate what is in the end only another human brain.
I am interested in AI and physics simulations myself so I'm not trying to say that simulating a brain isn't an interesting goal that might have something to teach us - but IMO if your end goal is useful intelligence for using in everyday life, there is no point in it. We already have billions of other human intelligences that we can interact with.
We have created robots and AI that are far better than humans at certain physical and mental tasks, and we're starting to see progress with programs that are good at more general knowledge (IBM's Watson), which is a good step to being able to actually hold a conversation of a sort with a computer. It's obviously not the same as human intelligence, but human intelligence is quite poorly suited to certain tasks. Humans can get bored, tired, their minds can wander, they can fall prey to emotional problems or full blown mental disorders.. having our computers subject to these things would be rather counter-productive outside of academic research into these individual phenomenon.. and there are all sorts of ethical questions to take into account when actually simulating a whole brain in that level of detail too.
The first one was trying to copy pictures onto a memory card back in 2006 - the file manager left a whole lot to be desired.
The other experience recently was trying to remove email accounts from a phone (webmail, not BES). The contextual menus on the home screen were useless, and there wasn't anywhere that I could see to do it in the settings menu either. Turns out it had to be done via the Service Books settings. That's clearly not intuitive even to someone experienced with computers - it requires being taught Blackberry specific knowledge.
My opinion is not based on memes at all, it's based on personal experience from years of IT support. My initial experience of them was probably in 2006 or so, the BB network used to drop out quite often. In the last few years things have been better yes, but I've always seen the products in a poor light.
And any time I've had to help someone with them, the interface has been anything but intuitive. I'm sure it's usable once you learn it, but it's not intuitive at all.
Hmm. Typical case of good tech with awful user interface design.. though I don't think even their engineering is amazing because they used to have a lot of network issues.
And I have to say, lying in bed with a computer that does all the things I and most people in the world use them for--browsing the web, casual games, watching movies, posting on social networks, listening to music--without all the maintenance and time investment of a girlfriend is really, really nice.
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Yes, quiet all you sensible people! We want more feeble-minded, opinionless sheep around these here parts!
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WTF are you talking about? The context of this thread is 3D printing vs CNC/lathing, and pointing out that both have their pros and cons, and can in fact complement each other quite well. Who cares if it's home or "professional"? We're talking about fundamentally different methods of creating parts.
The home kits will get better over time, just as 2D printers have. At this point in time I don't think the cost of home printers are worth it personally, hence I sent my designs elsewhere to be printed.
I don't see the point in your vitriol here.
Oh, and the hollow sphere thing was what we call an "example". Ping pong balls are made in two halves, and have a significant weakness across the seam. If you can't think of any uses for being able to print objects within other objects with no assembly required (fully assembled ball bearings being a cool example), or being able to print a single piece item with a single piece external skin and an internal lattice structure, etc, that is entirely your own lack of imagination at fault. Feel free to never utilise 3D printing.
You may now continue to waste your life with your highly productive trolling.
I don't have a 3D printer myself, but I did get some stuff printed last week. I just sent them the model, and 2 days later I had my first ever 3D prints. Awesome.
When our CEO saw one of my prints, he was really interested. He asked if we could perhaps use the process to do faster and cheaper creation of future prototype models, and the answer is yes. I guess his little engineering hobby is just for kids though, it's not like it's made him a millionaire or anything.. oh, wait..
Okay.. so how do you create a single-piece hollow sphere on your combo lathe/mill? It seems to me that there are absolutely things that you can do with a 3D printer that you couldn't do with a lathe/mill..
It doesn't necessarily mean that it's "better", but it is different. And as one of those "non-mechanically minded" folks you mention, it does seem simpler to me from both a hardware and software perspective.
Okay - so more money for Mars and Tennent's, and less money to whatever else people were spending their food money on.
I was imagining cases where you can "grow" the economy, but that doesn't seem like one of them. Growth definitely isn't infinitely sustainable, at least while we're limited to Earth's resources, and especially if the population keeps exploding, spreading those resources more thinly..
Okay, but to ignore the idea that our human nature naturally results in social and economic disparity is just as absurd.
Like I said, you can't at the same time ask for "growth" in your own nation without expecting someone else somewhere to lose out. Now, it wouldn't really hurt the rich to lose a bit of their money for that, but how are you going to decide who the money comes from, and who gets it? And how long do you think before those people have all your money again, if you don't actually change your spending habits? If you keep buying foreign goods, music, movies, software, clothes, TV shows, food etc, then the money will be flowing out of your country..
Well, it's not like those making below a certain threshold really have enough spare cash to make worthwhile investments anyway.. having spare cash for investments is the reason that once you get to the 1% stage, it's so easy to stay there and just keep accruing more wealth.
I'm at 0.89% as of last year, and I'm only just now thinking I should probably buy a house. I hate being in debt - even such a "socially acceptable" debt as a mortgage.
Well, I only checked the icons since he said they "must" be loaded from Facebook, etc.
Anyone who does care about such things could log out when they're not using those sites, or use a separate browser for social sites, or block those domains from being accessed when they're not on the relevant site, do some types of browsing via proxy, etc etc etc. If you don't want these guys collecting your information to make your advertisements (if you don't block them) more relevant, simply stop handing out the information.. geez.
Well partially, as I said elsewhere, I don't get worked up that people in London make more money than me for example.
It's not apples to oranges though - you could save up some money, then go and live like a king in the "2nd/3rd world". You really are a lot richer than them, even if you are eating the same amount of calories a day or whatever.
If you're upset that you're not making enough money, why don't you retrain for a job with a higher salary?
Actually, yes, it is exactly how life works. Some species adapt better to their surroundings and dominate. Within social groups among animals, there is a pecking order. Those at the top get more mating opportunities, first dibs on food, etc..
Yes, most concepts in our society were made up by humans, which is why you need to think more carefully about them rather than just accept words like "growth".
Why do you expect that there should be 100% employment? Unless people start being used as personal servants or something, there may just not be enough jobs to go around. The obvious solution there is to stop having so many kids, rather than thinking that we can have infinite economic growth. Either that or you have to change society so that some people can just live without jobs (which already you can kind of do on government welfare).
Why do people keep expecting economic "growth"? Growth in one place seems to me to imply shrinkage in another area.. which is exactly what you're complaining about!
Of course I haven't studied economics, so maybe that's not how "growth" works. But common sense dictates that it is..
"Income equality" is a load of bullshit unless everyone is doing the same work, in the same place. I don't complain that people doing the same job as me in London make more money - because their cost of living is also much higher than mine. It's the same when you look to different countries too, the cost of living makes a difference.
Yes, the bank loans stuff was stupid, but that was the reason for the apparent economic crash recently - not the 1% / 99% divide that people love to bandy on about.
The "for some reason" is that everyone works for their individual benefit, or at least that of those close to them. That's how life has always worked.
I'm not sure why you would expect those people to give up what they and their family have worked for any more than you'd let random homeless people sleep in your house for free every night.
Some rich people do give money to good causes, and that's nice, but there shouldn't be a law to force them to do so. They're already being taxed quite highly anyway.. so as long as they're not tax dodging, I don't have a problem with them having more money than me.
I'm not American btw, I'm Scottish.
Hmm, well since you're in the middle, I guess you'd better stop "stealing" from poorer nations, eh? You shouldn't ever trade with other countries, because you're obviously just stealing their money (by your logic).
So you're saying it's somehow bad when it's the relatively rich people in the US being "oppressed" by the 1%, but it's fine when we are doing the exact same thing on a global scale?
All I see are people bitching how unfair their lives are, while ignoring the 90% of people who have even less than themselves.
There are very, very few people in this world actively trying to oppress anyone. Most of this stuff just happens with no thought of malice. There will always be people who come out on top either through their own effort, or simple luck (location, family, etc).
Yeah, I'm sure he was planning on giving you and all your friends 20 cents.
Have you actually checked your position on the global "rich list"? You might actually be part of the 1%. I am, and I don't have anything to do with the finance market. I probably don't even make very much money compared to a lot of slashdotters, because I'm happy working in a small/medium business rather than being in a Fortune 500 or whatever.
I think the point is that we already have human brains that we can teach. There's no point having a computer pulling down a whole power station's worth of power just to simulate what is in the end only another human brain.
I am interested in AI and physics simulations myself so I'm not trying to say that simulating a brain isn't an interesting goal that might have something to teach us - but IMO if your end goal is useful intelligence for using in everyday life, there is no point in it. We already have billions of other human intelligences that we can interact with.
We have created robots and AI that are far better than humans at certain physical and mental tasks, and we're starting to see progress with programs that are good at more general knowledge (IBM's Watson), which is a good step to being able to actually hold a conversation of a sort with a computer. It's obviously not the same as human intelligence, but human intelligence is quite poorly suited to certain tasks. Humans can get bored, tired, their minds can wander, they can fall prey to emotional problems or full blown mental disorders.. having our computers subject to these things would be rather counter-productive outside of academic research into these individual phenomenon.. and there are all sorts of ethical questions to take into account when actually simulating a whole brain in that level of detail too.
The word you are looking for is "crisis".
Crysis is a pun based on the Crytek company name and the aforementioned word.
Even while you're viewing this very page, there are icons for Twitter, Facebook, and Google which must be loaded from their site
Actually, those images are loaded from http://a.fsdn.com/sd/commentshareicons.png.
Tinfoil hat fail.
Yes, most of them don't care. I don't care either.
The first one was trying to copy pictures onto a memory card back in 2006 - the file manager left a whole lot to be desired.
The other experience recently was trying to remove email accounts from a phone (webmail, not BES). The contextual menus on the home screen were useless, and there wasn't anywhere that I could see to do it in the settings menu either. Turns out it had to be done via the Service Books settings. That's clearly not intuitive even to someone experienced with computers - it requires being taught Blackberry specific knowledge.
My opinion is not based on memes at all, it's based on personal experience from years of IT support. My initial experience of them was probably in 2006 or so, the BB network used to drop out quite often. In the last few years things have been better yes, but I've always seen the products in a poor light.
And any time I've had to help someone with them, the interface has been anything but intuitive. I'm sure it's usable once you learn it, but it's not intuitive at all.
Hmm. Typical case of good tech with awful user interface design.. though I don't think even their engineering is amazing because they used to have a lot of network issues.
Yes, we expect introverts to spend more time on gadgets, but perhaps that is because those who are attracted to gadgets end up introverted.
I hadn't considered it that way before, but it does seem to be an area worthy of further study.
Sometimes things that we consider obvious, or that "everybody knows", actually aren't true at all.
And I have to say, lying in bed with a computer that does all the things I and most people in the world use them for--browsing the web, casual games, watching movies, posting on social networks, listening to music--without all the maintenance and time investment of a girlfriend is really, really nice.
FTFY