Yeah. Asking a question and ending with "I refuse to believe the truth!" isn't the best way to go.
If these are ancient games, and there is no other way to get them, then they're "abandonware". Just grow a pair and download them. It might be illegal, but I don't see how it's immoral. If the company that made the game is even still around, you could try contacting them for a license as AC suggested.
I wasn't referring so much to the mods as the fact that people can mold the world around them and share their designs with people.
I don't know what games you're talking about watching stuff in. I buy games that I can play. I prefer GTA/Saints Row/Red Dead Redemption sandboxes to the Minecraft world so far, though I haven't played Minecraft much. Mods to add villages and quests would be pretty cool.
They opened up the smartphone market even more, but yep I wouldn't buy an iPhone. I eventually bought a second hand iPod because a few things only work well with iPods though.
Steam style DRM should be the only type allowed in games - tie the game to an account, rather than a machine.
I'm running Mint Debian Edition. I'd forgotten that I'd even chosen that version rather than the Ubuntu based one. It's a rolling distribution based on Debian Testing, but I've had no problems with it apart from having to get the wireless drivers working when I first installed it.
I'd recommend switching to the Testing branch of Debian, or adding in repositories for the latest builds of Firefox or Chrome's stable versions to your current setup. When you install the.deb for Chrome, the appropriate repository is added automatically to keep you up to date - not sure if it's any more awkward for Firefox.
I stopped using Firefox a couple of years ago, but I still try it out from time to time. Bog standard Firefox isn't very responsive on my wheezy little netbook, but Chrome with adblock is running great!
I actually like to be positive about some products, though I do worry I sound like a shill, or that people will be reading the same comments from me over and over. I'm happy to praise Amazon (good reviews) and Google (useful products, even if their intention is to better sell ads), as they've only done good things for me. I used to be happy to praise Ubuntu until 11.04.. now I praise Mint.
This is indeed how our brains work, but with gaming, there have been obvious steps backwards in recent years. It's mostly due to games publishers taking advantage of how locked down things are on consoles right now. Consoles are finally getting online, but most games have no mechanism for creating and sharing your own content (with a few notable exceptions like LittleBigPlanet). They charge insane prices just for a few extra maps or single player missions. Back when I was a heavy PC gamer (ie before I got a job!) maps and mods for games were plentiful. I thought it would still be that way in PC gaming, but I've seen a few people comment that things have gone backwards there in terms of the latest games being moddable/customisable. So really, it does seem like there is something to complain about.
There's a reason people love Minecraft even though it looks like ass: the focus on user-generated content.
I was just trying to clarify - you mentioned "multiple versions of a single package", and I wondered if you thought I was talking about redundant duplicates of the exact same library.
I am not trying to force anything on anyone. You asked why manually adding repositories is "sub-optimal", and I pointed out that the optimal/ideal/preferable situation would have the package manager take care of things for you. I didn't say you shouldn't still be able to configure the repositories yourself if you want, but for really popular packages like Chrome, Firefox, etc it would be nice to be able to choose which version you want to use without having to go and download a.deb.
I remember having issues with CPAN modules, probably because the version of Perl on OSX wasn't very up to date. I saw a guy here complaining about the version of Ruby on OSX a couple of days ago too, and how it was impossible to upgrade because the updater itself was written in a newer version of Ruby that couldn't run on his system.
I wasn't aware that apt-get was available for OSX. It was 2007 or 2008 that I was using it myself though, so it maybe wasn't available back then.
When I said "multiple versions", I meant as you said "old and up-to-date" versions. It wasn't me that asked for not having to use backports. I was just pointing out that the optimal solution is one where things just work as the user wants, without him having to fiddle with the configuration.
It seems I'm running on testing myself (Mint, Debian edition).
I thought Google have been doing this the whole time, ie 20% projects. Nothing wrong with releasing the ones that come to fruition. It's not detracting from other parts of their business, and it's bringing cool stuff into the community - some of which might be really useful. Google are one of the companies that actually has a chance of making a replacement to JS "stick", though convincing MS would be a very tall order indeed.
Yes, but the joke was that the revocation system is in place, yet even someone who's asking about it can't be bothered to test it out and see if it works. Bugs won't get fixed if they're not noticed and reported.
I was just meaning from my own point of view, for a couple of Ubuntu machines that I was using. I'd often reinstall rather than just upgrade, to stop any annoying little issues.
I'm now on a rolling release of Mint for my own machine, and I've created scripts for installing and setting up my development environment (just Apache and various Perl modules) for whenever I need to do a reinstall, so it's not such a hassle. I'll probably set up a VM using a stable rolling release distro next time I'm setting up a new webserver.
I do some support too, but we're a fairly small business. I rarely have to reinstall whole machines, and any time I am doing a new install it's often on a new model of hardware. If we had more users then we'd switch to volume licensing and buy batches of standardised hardware, or have a standard VM at least for those who don't need to do 3D design work..
Really, it's not a nice way to go. I switched from Windows to OSX to Ubuntu, and I wouldn't go back the way. If you like using open source software or development tools, it's a lot easier to install and maintain everything under Linux than OSX.
Try out Mint - it's what I used after they released 11.04 and it screwed up my workflow, and I like it even better than Ubuntu.
What's so wrong about using backports.debian.org? Is it so hard to add one line to your/etc/apt/sources.list? Why is this sub-optimal?
Optimal would obviously be it "just working" without having to keep multiple versions of the same package on your system. Whenever you have to change something from default, it makes it ever so slightly more annoying to do a reinstall, or set up the OS for someone else.
As long as everyone else copies the ideas and improves upon them, everything is good!
I'm really thankful for the work that Ubuntu has been doing the last few years, but I think they should have taken more time with Unity before pushing it out to their desktop distro. Why they didn't just make an extension for something like Docky or AWN, I don't know.. Unity is completely awful compared to them. It's not even as good as the Windows 7 taskbar.
Have you actually made any money yet? When I looked into it I wasn't too thrilled at how easy it was for people to scam you out of bitcoins by contesting Paypal payments etc
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By which time you will be dead..
Yeah. Asking a question and ending with "I refuse to believe the truth!" isn't the best way to go.
If these are ancient games, and there is no other way to get them, then they're "abandonware". Just grow a pair and download them. It might be illegal, but I don't see how it's immoral. If the company that made the game is even still around, you could try contacting them for a license as AC suggested.
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I wasn't referring so much to the mods as the fact that people can mold the world around them and share their designs with people.
I don't know what games you're talking about watching stuff in. I buy games that I can play. I prefer GTA/Saints Row/Red Dead Redemption sandboxes to the Minecraft world so far, though I haven't played Minecraft much. Mods to add villages and quests would be pretty cool.
They opened up the smartphone market even more, but yep I wouldn't buy an iPhone. I eventually bought a second hand iPod because a few things only work well with iPods though.
Steam style DRM should be the only type allowed in games - tie the game to an account, rather than a machine.
I'm running Mint Debian Edition. I'd forgotten that I'd even chosen that version rather than the Ubuntu based one. It's a rolling distribution based on Debian Testing, but I've had no problems with it apart from having to get the wireless drivers working when I first installed it.
I'd recommend switching to the Testing branch of Debian, or adding in repositories for the latest builds of Firefox or Chrome's stable versions to your current setup. When you install the .deb for Chrome, the appropriate repository is added automatically to keep you up to date - not sure if it's any more awkward for Firefox.
I stopped using Firefox a couple of years ago, but I still try it out from time to time. Bog standard Firefox isn't very responsive on my wheezy little netbook, but Chrome with adblock is running great!
I actually like to be positive about some products, though I do worry I sound like a shill, or that people will be reading the same comments from me over and over. I'm happy to praise Amazon (good reviews) and Google (useful products, even if their intention is to better sell ads), as they've only done good things for me. I used to be happy to praise Ubuntu until 11.04.. now I praise Mint.
This is indeed how our brains work, but with gaming, there have been obvious steps backwards in recent years. It's mostly due to games publishers taking advantage of how locked down things are on consoles right now. Consoles are finally getting online, but most games have no mechanism for creating and sharing your own content (with a few notable exceptions like LittleBigPlanet). They charge insane prices just for a few extra maps or single player missions. Back when I was a heavy PC gamer (ie before I got a job!) maps and mods for games were plentiful. I thought it would still be that way in PC gaming, but I've seen a few people comment that things have gone backwards there in terms of the latest games being moddable/customisable. So really, it does seem like there is something to complain about.
There's a reason people love Minecraft even though it looks like ass: the focus on user-generated content.
How can you be naked if you're wearing shorts? No wonder it's illegal!
I was just trying to clarify - you mentioned "multiple versions of a single package", and I wondered if you thought I was talking about redundant duplicates of the exact same library.
I am not trying to force anything on anyone. You asked why manually adding repositories is "sub-optimal", and I pointed out that the optimal/ideal/preferable situation would have the package manager take care of things for you. I didn't say you shouldn't still be able to configure the repositories yourself if you want, but for really popular packages like Chrome, Firefox, etc it would be nice to be able to choose which version you want to use without having to go and download a .deb.
And the next sentence.. "But for ignition, that number would need to rise by about a factor of 1,000.". So not that news worthy..
He meant that all those thing were necessary for getting out more energy than you put in (ie "breakeven or beyond).
Yes. Figuring out artificial gravity would also be cake, if the cake wasn't a lie.
I remember having issues with CPAN modules, probably because the version of Perl on OSX wasn't very up to date. I saw a guy here complaining about the version of Ruby on OSX a couple of days ago too, and how it was impossible to upgrade because the updater itself was written in a newer version of Ruby that couldn't run on his system.
I wasn't aware that apt-get was available for OSX. It was 2007 or 2008 that I was using it myself though, so it maybe wasn't available back then.
When I said "multiple versions", I meant as you said "old and up-to-date" versions. It wasn't me that asked for not having to use backports. I was just pointing out that the optimal solution is one where things just work as the user wants, without him having to fiddle with the configuration.
It seems I'm running on testing myself (Mint, Debian edition).
I thought Google have been doing this the whole time, ie 20% projects. Nothing wrong with releasing the ones that come to fruition. It's not detracting from other parts of their business, and it's bringing cool stuff into the community - some of which might be really useful. Google are one of the companies that actually has a chance of making a replacement to JS "stick", though convincing MS would be a very tall order indeed.
Yes, but the joke was that the revocation system is in place, yet even someone who's asking about it can't be bothered to test it out and see if it works. Bugs won't get fixed if they're not noticed and reported.
I was just meaning from my own point of view, for a couple of Ubuntu machines that I was using. I'd often reinstall rather than just upgrade, to stop any annoying little issues.
I'm now on a rolling release of Mint for my own machine, and I've created scripts for installing and setting up my development environment (just Apache and various Perl modules) for whenever I need to do a reinstall, so it's not such a hassle. I'll probably set up a VM using a stable rolling release distro next time I'm setting up a new webserver.
I do some support too, but we're a fairly small business. I rarely have to reinstall whole machines, and any time I am doing a new install it's often on a new model of hardware. If we had more users then we'd switch to volume licensing and buy batches of standardised hardware, or have a standard VM at least for those who don't need to do 3D design work..
I can't be bothered to try it out myself, I'll take your word for it
if there's such a revocation system, why do we still need browser or even OS updates to deal with this issue??
Probably because people are too trusting, and never bother to test that OCSP works..
Really, it's not a nice way to go. I switched from Windows to OSX to Ubuntu, and I wouldn't go back the way. If you like using open source software or development tools, it's a lot easier to install and maintain everything under Linux than OSX.
Try out Mint - it's what I used after they released 11.04 and it screwed up my workflow, and I like it even better than Ubuntu.
What's so wrong about using backports.debian.org? Is it so hard to add one line to your /etc/apt/sources.list? Why is this sub-optimal?
Optimal would obviously be it "just working" without having to keep multiple versions of the same package on your system. Whenever you have to change something from default, it makes it ever so slightly more annoying to do a reinstall, or set up the OS for someone else.
I switched to Mint after a few weeks of 11.04. You should definitely give it a go. It feels even more polished than Ubuntu IMO :)
As long as everyone else copies the ideas and improves upon them, everything is good!
I'm really thankful for the work that Ubuntu has been doing the last few years, but I think they should have taken more time with Unity before pushing it out to their desktop distro. Why they didn't just make an extension for something like Docky or AWN, I don't know.. Unity is completely awful compared to them. It's not even as good as the Windows 7 taskbar.
Those names hardly inspire confidence for use in a production environment..
Have you actually made any money yet? When I looked into it I wasn't too thrilled at how easy it was for people to scam you out of bitcoins by contesting Paypal payments etc