Please go back and check on how HFH's homes have done in these kinds of situations before you give them a black eye for construction methods. When you look at the pictures from the lower 9th Ward where the levee broke twice, you'll see some big white painted houses. The've been flooded twice now by water pouring through the breaches, but they're still standing. Those are the HFH homes. The ones that didn't suffer anything but water damage and will probably be completely repairable. In previous hurricanes, whole neighboorhoods have been reduced to rubble except for the homes built by HFH. Why? Because the people care about what they're doing and put them together right. They use enough nails on the hurricane straps, and enough everywhere else so that the whole house doesn't fall down from a little gust of wind. 2x4 wood is fine. As long as you connect it right.
Read my comment again. Most computers over 8 are not smp. It's too much of a headache to handle. I'm pretty sure Sun E10K's are NUMA. In fact, if I remember right, Sun bought the design for them from Cray since SGI didn't want to have a division selling sparc based boxes. I also remember seeing some SGI promotional material about the interconnects on the e10k beinf far slower than the SGI links. So yes, it's possible to build a very large SMP machine. But nobody really does it anymore. Even Opterons are using NUMA because it scales better and is much easier to build logic around.
Umm, not true. Sun, can hold up to 106 processers in its Sunfire 15K product, or 72 dual-core processors in the E25K.
SGI's Origin systems are equally large I believe. And manufacturers like IBM also have large SMP machines.
There's a difference between SMP and NUMA used in the big iron. SMP is normally a shared bus or switch topology with the processors connected to each other with little or no arbitration logic. So if you get above 4 you normally max out the busses as the CPUs try to figure out who's doing what and what instruction comes next. NUMA architecture is somewhere between SMP and clustering. The SGI boxes use c-bricks of 4 CPU's and I think 8GB of RAM. Each c-brick is connected to one or more routers via craylink cables. Get enough of these together and you've got your 512 CPU monster. Sun uses the same idea, but is unfortunatly a LOT slower with their interconnect technology. I've seen 16x SMP boxes before, but they really didn't scale at all. Anything over the standard 4-8 SMP is a waste of CPU's and money.
Tandem. They use MIPS chips. Like all things SGI it runs like this. Use something, buy the company that makes it, go "oh crap, we need money let's sell xcompany." So they used MIPS, bought the company, then spun it off and sold it when they needed money. The only SGI MIPS chips are the r5k and r10K lines. But even those go out to MIPS licensees to build off of. Crack open a Cisco router. There's a good chance you'll find an R5000 of some sort in there.
thought that SGI sold a lot of their graphics IP (including many of their top graphics engineers) to NVIDIA a while back, and still have agreements with them. Their IRIX systems sell with VPRO graphics cards, which I believe are repackaged NVIDIA chips with a few extras..
Or did I miss something?
Yes, The Vpro series only resembles Nvidia chipes because after it was completed, most of the team went to work for Nvidia and created the geforce with lots of the same ideas behind it. So the original GeForce chips were more like cut down Vpro's than the VPro's were soupped up GeForces if that makes any sense.
Not intending to start a Holy War, I realize the 64 CPU monsters have their place but their workstations are just ignorant (this is coming from a previous SGI only owner)... "These systems were around $40,000 when first released. Each R12000 400MHz has a SpecFP2000 of around 350-360 and so it's approximately equal to an Athlon 1.2GHz. The caveat is that the SpecFP2000 benchmark is actually made up of a bunch of other, smaller, tests. For computational fluid dynamics or neural network image recognition, the 400MHz SGI CPU is 2.5 to 5 times faster than the Athlon!"
WOW! 2.5 times faster than a 1.2Ghz Athlon!? Man, you'd almost need a $168 2.4 Ghz Athlon [pricewatch.com] to keep up! I wish they made them!
P.S. The 3.06 Ghz P4 is just under 1000 on the SpecFP benchmark [specbench.org].
Lets see, the last generation that we have SPEC numbers on for SGI is the 600Mhz R14K. It clocks in at 529 PeakFP compared to 656 Peak FP for the 2.4 GHz MP that was used in the benchmark. That's about a 20% difference in Speed. The original CPU's that he was dealing with, the R12K 400 and the 1.2 K7 are 407 and 352 respectively. That actually gives the SGI a lead by about 15%. Now if the 2.5x increase in an application holds true, I'd say the SGI is still a good deal if you can afford it. Now granted I don't have $40,000 to spend on a workstation, but there are plenty of companies who are willing to spend the extra $30,000 once to get double the performance out of their $60,000 a year engineers for the next two or three years. Also, as is pointed out in the article, the P4 is insanely optimized for SPEC. It's numbers have no real meaning to most realworld applications. If you want to get right down to it, SGI can give you 512 CPU's run through a single Infinite Reality module. No one would actually do this, but it's nice to dream about it once in a while:)
I can't find the link anymore, but last night I saw an article by Frank Soltis, the cheif scientist over the AS/400 unit. He basically laid out the evolution of the POWER achitecture (not the PowerPC) architecture and how it relates to the new 970 CPU. The first POWER cpu used by IBM was derived from their work with Moto and Apple, but it couldn't be used in the AS/400 line becuase of limitations in the chip. So IBM came up with Power2 (PowerPC AS). This exteneded the functionality of the chip to where it could be used in an AS/400 environment, but was no longer compatible with the PowerPC that Apple and Moto were selling. Then they added the POWER64 instruction set which made the chip faster for business and HPC applications, but drove it further away from the PowerPC platform. The POWER4 chip actuall includes 4 seperate instruction setts. POWER64, POWER32, PowerPC64 and PowerPC32. Adding Altivec and cutting out the second CPU core is what the 970 is. He didn't mention that there was really any overlap between it and the PS3 chip. POWER4 design was started in 96 so there may be some shared philosophy, but probably no real instruction matching between the two. He aslo said that the POWER5 (late next year) and POWER6 architectures would have some OS dependent accelerations put in them. He specifically mentioned that the chip would have an instruction for handling TCP streams instead of having to send several instructions to the CPU at once. And that these will be fully documented so that Linux/OSS can use them. POWER6 will extend that to specific DB2 and Domino calls to accelerate those apps.
The week after we hear of Apple trying to aquire the Altivec technology so that they can license it to IBM for G5 we hear yet another rumor that they are moving straight to x86. They haven't even gotten people to finish porting to OSx yet and you think they're going to force a port to a whole new architecture? Force every Mac user to choose between the old compatible version (again) and the new x86 one? They proved long ago that they could port Darwin to x86. Now who's going to force developers over. It may happen in 3 or 4 years when everybody has forgotten about the 9x to OSx port, but that would be one sure way to loose any market share they currently have with the developer community.
I think that plenty of people would sign up for this type of service. I know that the benefits of not having to play "find the song that I want" on a P2P network would be well worth it to me. Example: I'm trying to rip one of my old Stevie Ray Vaughan records, but there's a skip on one song. Now I can't get that song into my MP3 collection so I try to download it. I've looked off and on for 5 days now for this one song from a non-obscure artist and it's never been found. I'm sure it's out there, and that if I ever get the right upstream ultrapeer, I can find it. But I haven't yet so the P2P bit is worthless to me.
If I could save the few hours that I've spend looking for this song, I would gladly pay 25 cents a pop for it. Then for those users who are computer savy, most of us realize that Bear Share, LimeWire, etc. are noramlly filled with adware and spyware. I'd gladly nuke them and switch to a simple URL download.
Oh No!!! the RIAA has my Credit Card Number!!! They don't already? What about Best Buy or Circuit City or Wal-Mart? Giving the Record companys a CC is probably one of the safest things you can do with it. They can't use it for anything but saying that you've downloaded $12.75 worth of Oingo Boingo in the last month. Who knows, maybe they will even flag your account so next time you log into the home page you get an announcement that they've found an old concert and ripped it into the Oingo Boingo section so you can go download it.
1) You have Micron and Gateway. If these are standard ATX cases, swap out HD, MB, CPU, RAM. This should keep you legal with the software license. Since you have the original case, these parts are upgrades to the system, not a 'new' system. This is very important if your company is using the OEM license and not a select agreement or retail license.
2) Did you know you can't ghost an OEM license across different PC's? I've run into this at work, even though we do have a select agreement, we cannot take the image that comes on a Dell PC, add our software to it and ghost it back down to multiple PC's with the same hardware. Violates the terms of the EULA. We actually have to blow away the Dell pre-installed image, load our select software CD's and then use the Dell website and driver CD's to get it back to where it was before.
3) Have you considered just upgrading the processor and RAM? on a PII 400, you should be able to upgrade that to a PII 1GZ (possibly higher). Not quite state of the art, but for most office tasks, I can't tell much differnce between my old 400 and my new 933.
Except for the fact that they are only optimised for fill rate and a select subset of OGL calls. Get away from the calls that you find in Quake and these boards just won't cut it. They are not bad, just not what a high end CAD/Visual workstation needs. Yes, 99% of the CAD market could use Gforce based boards. It's the 1% that calls an $11000 workstation low end that keeps SGI, Sun, IBM and HP going on in these fields. Once Sun bumps this up to 48bit color, they may have a chance to compete at the high end of the workstation market, but I don't see Nvidia putting that kind of research and effort into cards that will only sell for $400 to the masses of PeeCee users. There are just way too many freaky OGL calls that never get used except at the very high end to optimize them all in a low cost chip.
Looks like the two may be comparable. The Fuel costs about $11,000 for a R14K 600 model. I think that the Fuels v12 graphics may have the edge here, but for slightly lower end stuff, I can see companies going with Sun (We know they'll be around in 5 years) instead of SGI for some of their MCAD stuff.
I second that. I have the same setup (August.Net and GTE) and haven't had a single day of downtime in 5 months. Two of my coworkers have GTE DSL and internet service and have also had really good luck. I would say that the Dallas area has to have some of the best DSL techs out there. Maybe it's all the new construction in the last few years so that the lines are newer, but I can't think of anyone I know who's had problems with it here.
Well, I guess I won't be moderating this topic:) Slashcode will run just fine on *BSD. It can, however, be painfull to get apache to recompile itself with mod_perl if you get a BSD that doesn't include it by default. I personally have Slash 1.01?? running on OpenBSD 2.6. I had to download a new version of Apache and Mod_SSL (Mod_SSL is installed by default). Other than that everything went very smoothly.
Good lord some of you people have some messed up telco's. Here is my experiance with GTE DSL with a third party ISP.
Called GTE to order line with a connection to a different ISP. GTE rep tells me no problem and adds line to my bill. GTE then mails me a DSL self install kit. (Just a bunch of line filters)
Call the ISP (August.net) and tell them that GTE is going to give them a line for me. ISP checks their orders and sees the line and everything is fine.
4 days later I get the DSL modem and all the line filters. It takes me maybe 10 minutes to plug the filters into the phones and turn on the DSL modem. Once that is done, to my surprise I am up on the internet with the static IPs that the ISP set me up with. Turns out that GTE had turned on the DSL server about 2 seconds after I got off the phone with them and the ISP had my information ready to go.
I know it's not the same story of pain and suffering that you have all been having, but I wanted you all to know that sometimes it does work just fine. I even had a line problem after a power outage at one point and it only took 5 minutes on the phone to fix it.
Problems with Athlons and early GeForce cards are pretty well documented. The GeForce cards drew so much power that they could not be use reliably with out at least a 300w power supply. That sounds about like what you had happen to you. Once they Athlons moved to the new process (k75 I think) and the VIA chipset came out these problems pretty much went away.
Radio stations are exempt from record royalties. This came up a few weeks ago when talking about web based radio stations to some friends of mine. If you broadcast music over the web, then you have to pay royalties. Record companies want radio stations to play more of their music so they can sell records so they don't require the radio stations to pay royalties. They're not worried that you'll tape stuff of of the radio instead of buying it because receptions is not good enough unless you live next door to the transmitter.
That's like saying that NT is just a Unix Variant. OS/2 can be configured from a command prompt if that's what you are talking about, but other than that I can't think of anything in OS/2 that is impleneted close to UNIX. (OK it's a multitasking multithreading kernel)
Could someone please enlighten me! I was forced to use OS/2 as my main desktop at work for over a year between 98/99. I did not like it -- at all. The file manager is like that windows 95 "My Computer" thing that everyone hates. Switching tasks is a 5 mouseclick operation if the window is not visable. The standard fonts were designed for a 10 by 10 pixel screen. I mean the fonts used by the "notepad" eqivalent are BILBOARD sized. It is totally unintuative. It crashed just as often as any other PC I have ever used. The only thing I liked was that it ran REXX, always the prettiest scripting language. Etc. Etc. Etc. For those of you who are reading this and have said that they might try OS/2 here are a few hints for these types of problems....
File Manager. OK yeah opening up the C drive sucks. You can, however, use the old style win 3.1 file manager. For somethings this is actually easier to use than the default. (no flames please:) Other than that then severl freeware programs are out there that will handle file management for you. Task Switching. CTRL-ESC and pick the app you want. That simple. Fonts. I don't think I ever saw this problem, but under system properties you can change the default size and color of just about anything and have it used system wide. Stability. IMHO RAM is the biggest killer of OS/2. One bad stick of RAM and it will trap out and die daily. Other than some of the BSD's I have never seen a system more picky about the RAM it uses. I have had sticks of memory pass all kinds of walking bit diags and be spec'ed out for the machine correctly and still crash Warp. I don't know why, but it has happed to me a few times. REXX rocks. Combine this with the command line apache server and you can do some very odd things with web pages.
Taken from the WAVE websight. (Did I just break the DMCA?) Based on protocols established by the school during enrollment, the WAVE Line will immediately notify designated contacts at the school, or in emergencies local law enforcement, of serious allegations made to the WAVE Line. This allows administrators to immediately investigate allegations and take steps to prevent potentially serious incidents.
Ok, who here thinks that the jocks of the world will really figure this out? Most of the jocks in my high school would try to call something like this and say, "Umm, yeah, um, there's this kid, and like, um, he looks like he's, um, like, um, messed up or something, um... I think he might have a gun at home or something, umm, yeah." While the nerd who was just laughed out of gym will call and social engineer the damn line and get the jock's arrested. In either case it doesn't look like anybody's friend. I know when I was in high school I would have loved to have an easy, anonymous way of messing with people. sneaking playboy's into other people's lockers and then leaving a note for a teacher was just so damn much work. No all I would have to do is call an anonymous line? OK, so they can't tell who just called, how may times can I call and report someone using fake voices until I hit the right key phrase to get somebody into real trouble? I think I just need to win the lottery so my kid doesn't have to go to school here. Maybe if I move to the Caymen Island's I can send him to a good prive school with nun's so he can turn into a normal well adjusted sociopath just like the rest of his family.
Sites I've found blocked over the past two weeks with ANS Interlock from UUNet.
*.freshmeat.net *.sourceforge.net Note, www.sourceforge.net and sourceforge.net were not blocked. However, anything else in the sourceforge domain such as mesa3d.sourceforge.net was blocked by the software. There is no wildcard expression in the sites.allow list to let you unblock an entire domain. This has really given us fits with things like x*.deja.com. It's a real pain in the ass to type
x1.deja.com allow x2.deja.com allow etc....... The one thing that ANS appears to be good at finding is anonymizer sites. Those get blocked about a week after they pop up. Damn, I hate our corporate insecurity policy.
I just tried to go to the Peacefire sight to take a look at the report. Well looks like my nice little company fire wall is blocking the entire peacefire.org web site. Guess I'll have to use a dialup to get the cracking tool for the full bin list so I can see what else has been blocked.
Slashdot Mirror
Please go back and check on how HFH's homes have done in these kinds of situations before you give them a black eye for construction methods. When you look at the pictures from the lower 9th Ward where the levee broke twice, you'll see some big white painted houses. The've been flooded twice now by water pouring through the breaches, but they're still standing. Those are the HFH homes. The ones that didn't suffer anything but water damage and will probably be completely repairable. In previous hurricanes, whole neighboorhoods have been reduced to rubble except for the homes built by HFH. Why? Because the people care about what they're doing and put them together right. They use enough nails on the hurricane straps, and enough everywhere else so that the whole house doesn't fall down from a little gust of wind. 2x4 wood is fine. As long as you connect it right.
Yes, that's what SGI does. Large single image systems with ccNUMA memory.
Read my comment again. Most computers over 8 are not smp. It's too much of a headache to handle. I'm pretty sure Sun E10K's are NUMA. In fact, if I remember right, Sun bought the design for them from Cray since SGI didn't want to have a division selling sparc based boxes. I also remember seeing some SGI promotional material about the interconnects on the e10k beinf far slower than the SGI links. So yes, it's possible to build a very large SMP machine. But nobody really does it anymore. Even Opterons are using NUMA because it scales better and is much easier to build logic around.
Umm, not true. Sun, can hold up to 106 processers in its Sunfire 15K product, or 72 dual-core processors in the E25K.
SGI's Origin systems are equally large I believe. And manufacturers like IBM also have large SMP machines.
There's a difference between SMP and NUMA used in the big iron. SMP is normally a shared bus or switch topology with the processors connected to each other with little or no arbitration logic. So if you get above 4 you normally max out the busses as the CPUs try to figure out who's doing what and what instruction comes next. NUMA architecture is somewhere between SMP and clustering. The SGI boxes use c-bricks of 4 CPU's and I think 8GB of RAM. Each c-brick is connected to one or more routers via craylink cables. Get enough of these together and you've got your 512 CPU monster. Sun uses the same idea, but is unfortunatly a LOT slower with their interconnect technology. I've seen 16x SMP boxes before, but they really didn't scale at all. Anything over the standard 4-8 SMP is a waste of CPU's and money.
Tandem. They use MIPS chips. Like all things SGI it runs like this. Use something, buy the company that makes it, go "oh crap, we need money let's sell xcompany." So they used MIPS, bought the company, then spun it off and sold it when they needed money. The only SGI MIPS chips are the r5k and r10K lines. But even those go out to MIPS licensees to build off of. Crack open a Cisco router. There's a good chance you'll find an R5000 of some sort in there.
thought that SGI sold a lot of their graphics IP (including many of their top graphics engineers) to NVIDIA a while back, and still have agreements with them. Their IRIX systems sell with VPRO graphics cards, which I believe are repackaged NVIDIA chips with a few extras..
Or did I miss something?
Yes, The Vpro series only resembles Nvidia chipes because after it was completed, most of the team went to work for Nvidia and created the geforce with lots of the same ideas behind it. So the original GeForce chips were more like cut down Vpro's than the VPro's were soupped up GeForces if that makes any sense.
Not intending to start a Holy War, I realize the 64 CPU monsters have their place but their workstations are just ignorant (this is coming from a previous SGI only owner)...
:)
"These systems were around $40,000 when first released. Each R12000 400MHz has a SpecFP2000 of around 350-360 and so it's approximately equal to an Athlon 1.2GHz. The caveat is that the SpecFP2000 benchmark is actually made up of a bunch of other, smaller, tests. For computational fluid dynamics or neural network image recognition, the 400MHz SGI CPU is 2.5 to 5 times faster than the Athlon!"
WOW! 2.5 times faster than a 1.2Ghz Athlon!? Man, you'd almost need a $168 2.4 Ghz Athlon [pricewatch.com] to keep up! I wish they made them!
P.S. The 3.06 Ghz P4 is just under 1000 on the SpecFP benchmark [specbench.org].
Lets see, the last generation that we have SPEC numbers on for SGI is the 600Mhz R14K. It clocks in at 529 PeakFP compared to 656 Peak FP for the 2.4 GHz MP that was used in the benchmark. That's about a 20% difference in Speed. The original CPU's that he was dealing with, the R12K 400 and the 1.2 K7 are 407 and 352 respectively. That actually gives the SGI a lead by about 15%. Now if the 2.5x increase in an application holds true, I'd say the SGI is still a good deal if you can afford it. Now granted I don't have $40,000 to spend on a workstation, but there are plenty of companies who are willing to spend the extra $30,000 once to get double the performance out of their $60,000 a year engineers for the next two or three years. Also, as is pointed out in the article, the P4 is insanely optimized for SPEC. It's numbers have no real meaning to most realworld applications. If you want to get right down to it, SGI can give you 512 CPU's run through a single Infinite Reality module. No one would actually do this, but it's nice to dream about it once in a while
Found the article www.iseriesnetwork.com. Verry good history of the IBM architecure and some info on the upcomming POWER5 and POWER6
I can't find the link anymore, but last night I saw an article by Frank Soltis, the cheif scientist over the AS/400 unit. He basically laid out the evolution of the POWER achitecture (not the PowerPC) architecture and how it relates to the new 970 CPU. The first POWER cpu used by IBM was derived from their work with Moto and Apple, but it couldn't be used in the AS/400 line becuase of limitations in the chip. So IBM came up with Power2 (PowerPC AS). This exteneded the functionality of the chip to where it could be used in an AS/400 environment, but was no longer compatible with the PowerPC that Apple and Moto were selling. Then they added the POWER64 instruction set which made the chip faster for business and HPC applications, but drove it further away from the PowerPC platform. The POWER4 chip actuall includes 4 seperate instruction setts. POWER64, POWER32, PowerPC64 and PowerPC32. Adding Altivec and cutting out the second CPU core is what the 970 is. He didn't mention that there was really any overlap between it and the PS3 chip. POWER4 design was started in 96 so there may be some shared philosophy, but probably no real instruction matching between the two. He aslo said that the POWER5 (late next year) and POWER6 architectures would have some OS dependent accelerations put in them. He specifically mentioned that the chip would have an instruction for handling TCP streams instead of having to send several instructions to the CPU at once. And that these will be fully documented so that Linux/OSS can use them. POWER6 will extend that to specific DB2 and Domino calls to accelerate those apps.
The week after we hear of Apple trying to aquire the Altivec technology so that they can license it to IBM for G5 we hear yet another rumor that they are moving straight to x86. They haven't even gotten people to finish porting to OSx yet and you think they're going to force a port to a whole new architecture? Force every Mac user to choose between the old compatible version (again) and the new x86 one? They proved long ago that they could port Darwin to x86. Now who's going to force developers over. It may happen in 3 or 4 years when everybody has forgotten about the 9x to OSx port, but that would be one sure way to loose any market share they currently have with the developer community.
I think that plenty of people would sign up for this type of service. I know that the benefits of not having to play "find the song that I want" on a P2P network would be well worth it to me.
Example: I'm trying to rip one of my old Stevie Ray Vaughan records, but there's a skip on one song. Now I can't get that song into my MP3 collection so I try to download it. I've looked off and on for 5 days now for this one song from a non-obscure artist and it's never been found. I'm sure it's out there, and that if I ever get the right upstream ultrapeer, I can find it. But I haven't yet so the P2P bit is worthless to me.
If I could save the few hours that I've spend looking for this song, I would gladly pay 25 cents a pop for it. Then for those users who are computer savy, most of us realize that Bear Share, LimeWire, etc. are noramlly filled with adware and spyware. I'd gladly nuke them and switch to a simple URL download.
Oh No!!! the RIAA has my Credit Card Number!!! They don't already? What about Best Buy or Circuit City or Wal-Mart? Giving the Record companys a CC is probably one of the safest things you can do with it. They can't use it for anything but saying that you've downloaded $12.75 worth of Oingo Boingo in the last month. Who knows, maybe they will even flag your account so next time you log into the home page you get an announcement that they've found an old concert and ripped it into the Oingo Boingo section so you can go download it.
No sig here.
check out Ian Mapleson's site. It has some verry good SGI information about installing 6.5 from CD.
1) You have Micron and Gateway. If these are standard ATX cases, swap out HD, MB, CPU, RAM. This should keep you legal with the software license. Since you have the original case, these parts are upgrades to the system, not a 'new' system. This is very important if your company is using the OEM license and not a select agreement or retail license.
2) Did you know you can't ghost an OEM license across different PC's? I've run into this at work, even though we do have a select agreement, we cannot take the image that comes on a Dell PC, add our software to it and ghost it back down to multiple PC's with the same hardware. Violates the terms of the EULA. We actually have to blow away the Dell pre-installed image, load our select software CD's and then use the Dell website and driver CD's to get it back to where it was before.
3) Have you considered just upgrading the processor and RAM? on a PII 400, you should be able to upgrade that to a PII 1GZ (possibly higher). Not quite state of the art, but for most office tasks, I can't tell much differnce between my old 400 and my new 933.
Except for the fact that they are only optimised for fill rate and a select subset of OGL calls. Get away from the calls that you find in Quake and these boards just won't cut it. They are not bad, just not what a high end CAD/Visual workstation needs. Yes, 99% of the CAD market could use Gforce based boards. It's the 1% that calls an $11000 workstation low end that keeps SGI, Sun, IBM and HP going on in these fields. Once Sun bumps this up to 48bit color, they may have a chance to compete at the high end of the workstation market, but I don't see Nvidia putting that kind of research and effort into cards that will only sell for $400 to the masses of PeeCee users. There are just way too many freaky OGL calls that never get used except at the very high end to optimize them all in a low cost chip.
Looks like the two may be comparable. The Fuel costs about $11,000 for a R14K 600 model. I think that the Fuels v12 graphics may have the edge here, but for slightly lower end stuff, I can see companies going with Sun (We know they'll be around in 5 years) instead of SGI for some of their MCAD stuff.
I second that. I have the same setup (August.Net and GTE) and haven't had a single day of downtime in 5 months. Two of my coworkers have GTE DSL and internet service and have also had really good luck. I would say that the Dallas area has to have some of the best DSL techs out there. Maybe it's all the new construction in the last few years so that the lines are newer, but I can't think of anyone I know who's had problems with it here.
Well, I guess I won't be moderating this topic :)
Slashcode will run just fine on *BSD. It can, however, be painfull to get apache to recompile itself with mod_perl if you get a BSD that doesn't include it by default. I personally have Slash 1.01?? running on OpenBSD 2.6. I had to download a new version of Apache and Mod_SSL (Mod_SSL is installed by default). Other than that everything went very smoothly.
Les Weinmunson
les@weinmunson.net
Good lord some of you people have some messed up telco's. Here is my experiance with GTE DSL with a third party ISP.
Called GTE to order line with a connection to a different ISP. GTE rep tells me no problem and adds line to my bill. GTE then mails me a DSL self install kit. (Just a bunch of line filters)
Call the ISP (August.net) and tell them that GTE is going to give them a line for me. ISP checks their orders and sees the line and everything is fine.
4 days later I get the DSL modem and all the line filters. It takes me maybe 10 minutes to plug the filters into the phones and turn on the DSL modem. Once that is done, to my surprise I am up on the internet with the static IPs that the ISP set me up with. Turns out that GTE had turned on the DSL server about 2 seconds after I got off the phone with them and the ISP had my information ready to go.
I know it's not the same story of pain and suffering that you have all been having, but I wanted you all to know that sometimes it does work just fine. I even had a line problem after a power outage at one point and it only took 5 minutes on the phone to fix it.
Problems with Athlons and early GeForce cards are pretty well documented. The GeForce cards drew so much power that they could not be use reliably with out at least a 300w power supply. That sounds about like what you had happen to you. Once they Athlons moved to the new process (k75 I think) and the VIA chipset came out these problems pretty much went away.
Radio stations are exempt from record royalties. This came up a few weeks ago when talking about web based radio stations to some friends of mine. If you broadcast music over the web, then you have to pay royalties. Record companies want radio stations to play more of their music so they can sell records so they don't require the radio stations to pay royalties. They're not worried that you'll tape stuff of of the radio instead of buying it because receptions is not good enough unless you live next door to the transmitter.
OK, you're wrong. ;)
That's like saying that NT is just a Unix Variant. OS/2 can be configured from a command prompt if that's what you are talking about, but other than that I can't think of anything in OS/2 that is impleneted close to UNIX. (OK it's a multitasking multithreading kernel)
Could someone please enlighten me!
:) Other than that then severl freeware programs are out there that will handle file management for you.
I was forced to use OS/2 as my main desktop at work for over a year between 98/99.
I did not like it -- at all.
The file manager is like that windows 95 "My Computer" thing that everyone hates.
Switching tasks is a 5 mouseclick operation if the window is not visable.
The standard fonts were designed for a 10 by 10 pixel screen. I mean the fonts used by the "notepad" eqivalent are BILBOARD sized.
It is totally unintuative.
It crashed just as often as any other PC I have ever used.
The only thing I liked was that it ran REXX, always the prettiest scripting language.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
For those of you who are reading this and have said that they might try OS/2 here are a few hints for these types of problems....
File Manager. OK yeah opening up the C drive sucks. You can, however, use the old style win 3.1 file manager. For somethings this is actually easier to use than the default. (no flames please
Task Switching. CTRL-ESC and pick the app you want. That simple.
Fonts. I don't think I ever saw this problem, but under system properties you can change the default size and color of just about anything and have it used system wide.
Stability. IMHO RAM is the biggest killer of OS/2. One bad stick of RAM and it will trap out and die daily. Other than some of the BSD's I have never seen a system more picky about the RAM it uses. I have had sticks of memory pass all kinds of walking bit diags and be spec'ed out for the machine correctly and still crash Warp. I don't know why, but it has happed to me a few times.
REXX rocks. Combine this with the command line apache server and you can do some very odd things with web pages.
Les
Taken from the WAVE websight. (Did I just break the DMCA?)
Based on protocols established by the school during enrollment, the WAVE Line will immediately notify designated contacts at the school, or in emergencies local law enforcement, of serious allegations made to the WAVE Line. This allows administrators to immediately investigate allegations and take steps to prevent potentially serious incidents.
Ok, who here thinks that the jocks of the world will really figure this out? Most of the jocks in my high school would try to call something like this and say, "Umm, yeah, um, there's this kid, and like, um, he looks like he's, um, like, um, messed up or something, um... I think he might have a gun at home or something, umm, yeah." While the nerd who was just laughed out of gym will call and social engineer the damn line and get the jock's arrested. In either case it doesn't look like anybody's friend. I know when I was in high school I would have loved to have an easy, anonymous way of messing with people. sneaking playboy's into other people's lockers and then leaving a note for a teacher was just so damn much work. No all I would have to do is call an anonymous line? OK, so they can't tell who just called, how may times can I call and report someone using fake voices until I hit the right key phrase to get somebody into real trouble?
I think I just need to win the lottery so my kid doesn't have to go to school here. Maybe if I move to the Caymen Island's I can send him to a good prive school with nun's so he can turn into a normal well adjusted sociopath just like the rest of his family.
Sites I've found blocked over the past two weeks with ANS Interlock from UUNet.
*.freshmeat.net
*.sourceforge.net
Note, www.sourceforge.net and sourceforge.net were not blocked. However, anything else in the sourceforge domain such as mesa3d.sourceforge.net was blocked by the software. There is no wildcard expression in the sites.allow list to let you unblock an entire domain. This has really given us fits with things like x*.deja.com. It's a real pain in the ass to type
x1.deja.com allow
x2.deja.com allow
etc.......
The one thing that ANS appears to be good at finding is anonymizer sites. Those get blocked about a week after they pop up. Damn, I hate our corporate insecurity policy.
I just tried to go to the Peacefire sight to take a look at the report. Well looks like my nice little company fire wall is blocking the entire peacefire.org web site. Guess I'll have to use a dialup to get the cracking tool for the full bin list so I can see what else has been blocked.
Les