From what I gather, Red Flag Software is quite a large company. Red Flag Linux began as an Academy project, funded by a state-owned company. Seems to be pretty big too: it has 80% share of the Linux market in China, and 95% if you just look at government-related organizations.
It is fueled by Asianux, which is a cooperation between several Asian software houses. The basis seems to be Red Hat indeed, but I'd wager it's more than just another quick job.
I also heard that there is quite a lot of investment of time and money into the localization of both the Loongson based machines and Red Flag Linux.
I'm not trying to prove I'm right here, but I see signs of them getting out of their way to do things the way they want to. And since the last Olympics, we know that they can put together something special without compromising on quality. Sure, the Chinese electronics we see here are crap, but I'm sure that's because they're cheap, not because they're Chinese.
As we both said: we'll see. I'm damn sure I'll keep an eye on them...
Godson-3 will have added instructions that can emulate the x86 (at about 80% speed, TFA says). Besides that, ST Microelectronics (who builds the Loongson) has a license from MIPS technologies.
The CPU seems slow, compared to the ones we are used to (65nm is the best they can do now, add 20% loss for "emulating" x86 and add the loss you get from building economical CPU's around the 1GHz mark) but don't forget that they are not used to the same standard as we are. Intel and AMD aren't allowed by US law to export their best products to China.
Word is that Windows will boot, but even if it doesn't, I'll bet Wine will work. Besides that, Windows has become popular because our PC's come preloaded with it, and we have gotten used to it. If in China all the Loongson boxes come preloaded with Red Flag Linux, the population there will become used to that. Remember: a lot of them haven't used a PC that often, and certainly not in their own homes.
Add to that the attitude of the Chinese to keep everything in their own hands and to build everything they think they need but don't have yet, and you have a winner for Open Source. There is only one problem: get them to open up their code. I have the feeling they won't do that when real breakthroughs are made.
No, it's not simple. A lot of governments and businesses have rules implemented that say that they have to work with standards as much as possible. It is now possible for Microsoft to monopolize the office market further by waving the ISO flag at them.
This means that there is less incentive to move towards open and broadly implemented standards for both governments and big businesses. In turn, that means that Microsoft Office will remain something everyone expects you just have on your PC. Think about schools that give kids assignments in MS Word and Excel. Think about bosses that send schedules to employees in those formats. Think about governments that makes documents available for download in those formats. Then tell those people you don't own a license for MS Office, and look at their response.
ISO has put Microsoft in an ideal position to further conquer the market for office suits, the market for operating systems and the emerging market for online office service. I care about that.
"this" in the code is "window" by the way. Just so you know.
That bit of code is years old now, but I know it works in Firefox (> 1.5), Explorer (> 6, seen it work on 5 and 5.5), Konqueror (at least 3.4 and up), Opera (> 7) and Safari.
I use it in a function that calls itself every second to scale the elements to the current size of the viewport. Not the most elegant bit of code, but it has worked flawlessly until now.
One bug Konqueror has been notorious for (may be fixed?) is that it's near-impossible to figure out how tall the browser content area is, so you can nary make a flexible UI that stretches to fill the entire vertical space. This is a prerequisite for most Web apps.
It is fixed, as in: I've never encountered anything like that. I develop web apps, and I test against Konqueror now and then. The following has worked for me for years: if(this.innerHeight > 0) {
document.windowWidth = this.innerWidth;
document.windowHeight = this.innerHeight;
} else {
document.windowWidth = document.body.clientWidth;
document.windowHeight = document.body.clientHeight;
}
(executed at the end of the body)
They may have a case regarding their good name. I don't know how much the Vatican has said about the "new" Templars, but that might just hold up in court.
If that succeeds, maybe the Freemasons have a case to fight too.
You are allowed to use "deadly physical force" to halt the commission of a burglary or arson against your residence.
There is a point to be made against that, that sideways implies a connection between high crime rates and this very principle.
In some countries, the value of human life is considered greater than any goods or feelings. As such, it is considered excessive to use deadly force to protect your belongings from burglary and arson. As a result, those countries usually have enforcements on insuring your home against fire and theft, so that you actually don't lose much if you don't defend your castle. As a result of that, those insurances are very cheap, since a large group pays for the few who have to use it. It kinda works out.
The bottom line of this reasoning is that deadly force is authorized to protect your own life (in most cases also when you protect the life of others), but not to protect your goods and belongings. What happens when the population thinks it is a fundamental right to use deadly force when faced with burglary and breaking and entering is that they tend to think they have a God-given right to carry firearms. Somehow I think that has a connection with higher crime rates.
Here in the Netherlands, US cars are advertised on the radio by mentioning the continuing fall of the dollar in a news styled manner while cheering is heard on the background. I'm not joking.
We have two apps that communicate with each other via Word. Our CRM-app makes a CSV with contacts to send an email or a fax to, it starts Word, Word has a VBA macro in normal.dot wich reads the request and makes up the document. We can then run another macro to send the document by email or fax via the other app.
No, this is not a clean solution, but it is the one the company bought many years ago. Back then, it seemed like a good idea (and granted, it works). This is the feature that prevents us from upgrading to OpenOffice.org, as much as we'd like to. All our presentations (we give courses, so they are many and complex) are done with Impress, not PowerPoint. When we use spreadsheets, it probably is used by both Excel and Calc. But when we need to write a letter to a relation, we have to use Word (even for normal snail mail, since it provides the necessary trackback in our CRM-app).
Gah.
A notch more digging reveals that this is not something specific to OxygenOffice. It is the result of a joint Novell & Sun incubator project (http://vba.openoffice.org/)
Interesting, but the announcement says that support is only for Excel documents (so no VBA macros in Writer) and that the implementation is still under development.
If history has taught us anything about the affinity politicians have with tech, the definition will probably be: "tied to each other using one or more electrical cables, wires or tubes."
That or there will be no definition at all. Law is usually very vague in defining things, they assume that those things will be sorted out in jurisprudence.
I hope for the maturity and rock solid stability that I remember from 4. The innovations in 5 were needed and long overdue, but the decrease in stability has not recovered in 6 (IMHO).
I have never used another OS that was as stable as FreeBSD 4.11.
No, not alone, but you guys are a dying breed. What you describe is my experience with FreeBSD (which I love and have used exclusively on my desktop for years). Having used openSUSE for a while now on a myriad of machines, I can say that I have yet to find a single piece of hardware that didn't work immediately upon installation.
You experienced either a bug, your own fault or a tragic moment of serious bad luck (do you know the NICs in your system?). Hardware-wise, Linux is ready for the desktop.
I once was in the situation that "they" expected me (that is: IT) to get something to work that just wouldn't. After some tinkering with settings, macro's and scripts I told them it couldn't be done (since the app was at fault, and not at my disposal to correct). They told me it was my damn job and that it should be done regardless, within a ridiculously short time frame. They were actually mad at me for the faults of the newly bought (without my knowledge) app.
Fearing the same situation as your staff is in now, I told them: "if you are planning to fire me over this and put me to blame for your bad judgment while buying this piece of crap, you better get started on writing the letter right fucking now."
Since then, situations like this has happened (but mostly I am in the know before something is bought), but when I say it can't be done, it can't be done.
Actually, here in the Netherlands, there are oftentimes one or more regions where the turnout is above 100%. The cause is that the turnout is calculated by dividing the total votes in that region with the total potential voters living in the same region. Add to that the fact that you can vote in another region, if you apply so first, and 110% is possible.
Now, the same could be the case in Russia, but somehow I doubt it...
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Wrong thread man. You want this one.
From what I gather, Red Flag Software is quite a large company. Red Flag Linux began as an Academy project, funded by a state-owned company. Seems to be pretty big too: it has 80% share of the Linux market in China, and 95% if you just look at government-related organizations.
It is fueled by Asianux, which is a cooperation between several Asian software houses. The basis seems to be Red Hat indeed, but I'd wager it's more than just another quick job.
I also heard that there is quite a lot of investment of time and money into the localization of both the Loongson based machines and Red Flag Linux.
I'm not trying to prove I'm right here, but I see signs of them getting out of their way to do things the way they want to. And since the last Olympics, we know that they can put together something special without compromising on quality. Sure, the Chinese electronics we see here are crap, but I'm sure that's because they're cheap, not because they're Chinese.
As we both said: we'll see. I'm damn sure I'll keep an eye on them...
http://www.redflag-linux.com/eindex.html
On the whole, we'll have to see I guess.
Godson-3 will have added instructions that can emulate the x86 (at about 80% speed, TFA says). Besides that, ST Microelectronics (who builds the Loongson) has a license from MIPS technologies.
The CPU seems slow, compared to the ones we are used to (65nm is the best they can do now, add 20% loss for "emulating" x86 and add the loss you get from building economical CPU's around the 1GHz mark) but don't forget that they are not used to the same standard as we are. Intel and AMD aren't allowed by US law to export their best products to China.
Word is that Windows will boot, but even if it doesn't, I'll bet Wine will work. Besides that, Windows has become popular because our PC's come preloaded with it, and we have gotten used to it. If in China all the Loongson boxes come preloaded with Red Flag Linux, the population there will become used to that. Remember: a lot of them haven't used a PC that often, and certainly not in their own homes.
Add to that the attitude of the Chinese to keep everything in their own hands and to build everything they think they need but don't have yet, and you have a winner for Open Source. There is only one problem: get them to open up their code. I have the feeling they won't do that when real breakthroughs are made.
No, it's not simple. A lot of governments and businesses have rules implemented that say that they have to work with standards as much as possible. It is now possible for Microsoft to monopolize the office market further by waving the ISO flag at them.
This means that there is less incentive to move towards open and broadly implemented standards for both governments and big businesses. In turn, that means that Microsoft Office will remain something everyone expects you just have on your PC. Think about schools that give kids assignments in MS Word and Excel. Think about bosses that send schedules to employees in those formats. Think about governments that makes documents available for download in those formats. Then tell those people you don't own a license for MS Office, and look at their response.
ISO has put Microsoft in an ideal position to further conquer the market for office suits, the market for operating systems and the emerging market for online office service. I care about that.
"this" in the code is "window" by the way. Just so you know.
That bit of code is years old now, but I know it works in Firefox (> 1.5), Explorer (> 6, seen it work on 5 and 5.5), Konqueror (at least 3.4 and up), Opera (> 7) and Safari.
I use it in a function that calls itself every second to scale the elements to the current size of the viewport. Not the most elegant bit of code, but it has worked flawlessly until now.
One bug Konqueror has been notorious for (may be fixed?) is that it's near-impossible to figure out how tall the browser content area is, so you can nary make a flexible UI that stretches to fill the entire vertical space. This is a prerequisite for most Web apps.
It is fixed, as in: I've never encountered anything like that. I develop web apps, and I test against Konqueror now and then. The following has worked for me for years:
if(this.innerHeight > 0) {
document.windowWidth = this.innerWidth;
document.windowHeight = this.innerHeight;
} else {
document.windowWidth = document.body.clientWidth;
document.windowHeight = document.body.clientHeight;
}
(executed at the end of the body)
Don't let private companies run these things.
As a Dutchie, I'm completely stunned at the thought that any government will let privately owned companies run the traffic...
They may have a case regarding their good name. I don't know how much the Vatican has said about the "new" Templars, but that might just hold up in court.
If that succeeds, maybe the Freemasons have a case to fight too.
There is a point to be made against that, that sideways implies a connection between high crime rates and this very principle.
In some countries, the value of human life is considered greater than any goods or feelings. As such, it is considered excessive to use deadly force to protect your belongings from burglary and arson. As a result, those countries usually have enforcements on insuring your home against fire and theft, so that you actually don't lose much if you don't defend your castle. As a result of that, those insurances are very cheap, since a large group pays for the few who have to use it. It kinda works out.
The bottom line of this reasoning is that deadly force is authorized to protect your own life (in most cases also when you protect the life of others), but not to protect your goods and belongings. What happens when the population thinks it is a fundamental right to use deadly force when faced with burglary and breaking and entering is that they tend to think they have a God-given right to carry firearms. Somehow I think that has a connection with higher crime rates.
Because the Brits do the same with "Holland" and "the Netherlands"...
Here in the Netherlands, US cars are advertised on the radio by mentioning the continuing fall of the dollar in a news styled manner while cheering is heard on the background. I'm not joking.
Late reply, but hey...
We have two apps that communicate with each other via Word. Our CRM-app makes a CSV with contacts to send an email or a fax to, it starts Word, Word has a VBA macro in normal.dot wich reads the request and makes up the document. We can then run another macro to send the document by email or fax via the other app.
No, this is not a clean solution, but it is the one the company bought many years ago. Back then, it seemed like a good idea (and granted, it works). This is the feature that prevents us from upgrading to OpenOffice.org, as much as we'd like to. All our presentations (we give courses, so they are many and complex) are done with Impress, not PowerPoint. When we use spreadsheets, it probably is used by both Excel and Calc. But when we need to write a letter to a relation, we have to use Word (even for normal snail mail, since it provides the necessary trackback in our CRM-app).
Gah.
A notch more digging reveals that this is not something specific to OxygenOffice. It is the result of a joint Novell & Sun incubator project (http://vba.openoffice.org/)
See also
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA
http://www.linux.com/feature/58348
Interesting, but the announcement says that support is only for Excel documents (so no VBA macros in Writer) and that the implementation is still under development.
If history has taught us anything about the affinity politicians have with tech, the definition will probably be: "tied to each other using one or more electrical cables, wires or tubes."
That or there will be no definition at all. Law is usually very vague in defining things, they assume that those things will be sorted out in jurisprudence.
Eventually, the costs will go down. I sure hope that the law will prevent these kind of things before it is economically viable to actually use them.
I hope for the maturity and rock solid stability that I remember from 4. The innovations in 5 were needed and long overdue, but the decrease in stability has not recovered in 6 (IMHO).
I have never used another OS that was as stable as FreeBSD 4.11.
No, not alone, but you guys are a dying breed. What you describe is my experience with FreeBSD (which I love and have used exclusively on my desktop for years). Having used openSUSE for a while now on a myriad of machines, I can say that I have yet to find a single piece of hardware that didn't work immediately upon installation.
You experienced either a bug, your own fault or a tragic moment of serious bad luck (do you know the NICs in your system?). Hardware-wise, Linux is ready for the desktop.
XFR size: 42 records?
I once was in the situation that "they" expected me (that is: IT) to get something to work that just wouldn't. After some tinkering with settings, macro's and scripts I told them it couldn't be done (since the app was at fault, and not at my disposal to correct). They told me it was my damn job and that it should be done regardless, within a ridiculously short time frame. They were actually mad at me for the faults of the newly bought (without my knowledge) app.
Fearing the same situation as your staff is in now, I told them: "if you are planning to fire me over this and put me to blame for your bad judgment while buying this piece of crap, you better get started on writing the letter right fucking now."
Since then, situations like this has happened (but mostly I am in the know before something is bought), but when I say it can't be done, it can't be done.
Actually, here in the Netherlands, there are oftentimes one or more regions where the turnout is above 100%. The cause is that the turnout is calculated by dividing the total votes in that region with the total potential voters living in the same region. Add to that the fact that you can vote in another region, if you apply so first, and 110% is possible.
Now, the same could be the case in Russia, but somehow I doubt it...
With which hand?