as far as browsers go, though, Mozilla is one of the less bloated. Sure, it has mail & news clients embedded in them, and the Netscape-branded version will undoubtedly integrate AIM, but the download size is still very small compared to some other, well-known browsers.
I bet Netscape will release a browser-only version just like they did with the 4.x series, and have the full-featured suite for only a couple of megs more. That should please everybody enough, I'd think. Although it would be nice to also have a custom install routine where you could only install, say, the browser and the mail client, and leave the rest of the functions uninstalled. There are a lot of excellent mail/news clients for *nixes (and I guess Windows too), but I think why the Netscape mail/news client is so widely used is simply because it comes with the browser, has a similar interface, etc.
Umm... you miss the point, bud. The reason I said Zip + CD-R + DVD was that they're all IDE devices. Add a hard disk, and you get 4 IDE devices -- 2 masters, 2 slaves. Dell wouldn't sell that config for a while (not sure if they do now), because having the Zip, which is PIO mode 4 I believe, would drop the ATA/33-compliant CD-RW or DVD to PIO-4 speeds, which Dell (rightfully so) thought was unacceptable. I'm not saying that this can't be made to work, but Dell would not ship out systems like that.
It's sort of moot though... who really needs a Zip when they have a CD-RW?
...is for quality systems. Look at people who are buying a computer for the first time -- while they probably won't be buying an AMD Thunderbird screamer -- they buy a Gateway, Dell, Compaq, etc., because it is a well respected brand name and there are people to go to if it doesn't work. The computer industry is one of the few industries where the finished product is very tempramental to types and brands of components used (try and buy a Dell with a Zip disk, DVD, and CD-RW... they probably won't sell it to you although it works fine), and people want the peace of mind that by buying a brand-name computer that everything will work great out-of-the-box.
This one flop probably won't hurt Gateway at all, but many flops like this might just turn some prospective customers to other brands that have less reported problems.
Oh yeah... and there's no way in hell you had an OC12 connected to your dorm, or even collection of dorms for that matter. At _BEST_ you had an OC12 for your entire university. Moron.
Oh yeah, and especially if he was using a 10base-T NIC, who gives a care about what the actual pipe is, fact is you're only going to see 1.2mb/sec.
I ever remember seeing it on slashdot one or two times. DVD hasn't even taken over the world yet, so I seriously doubt this will have any effect for at least 2 years or so.
SCSI is better/faster than IDE, but it's *way* to expensive. If there was a 10-15% price difference, it would be worth the extra performance. But unfortunately, the price difference is much bigger (plus you have to spring for a SCSI card), and it isn't worth it.
For a server or high-performance workstation where you need to get every ounce of performance out of it, go SCSI. Anything else, go IDE.
48 C is still awful hot! I sure hope that was a typo and really meant Farenheit.
My chip (Celeron) is running right now at 34 F, and that's plenty hot...
I think a P3 would melt at 113 C anyways...
I think we're past worrying about wasted bandwith.
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I'll probably get flamed for this, but do you really think people care about bandwith anymore? In the era of Shockwave Flash, streaming media, MP3, spam, etc., etc... I mean, just think about how much faster the internet would be if suddenly there was no more spam (impossible, yes, but think about it!) Or if every site didn't have some sort of flashy intro or be completely loaded down with videos and music...
I mean, if we're gonna label this as wasted bandwith, at least label AOL the same way!
Come to think of it, wasn't the Pentium Pro the actual sextium then? The Pentium's are all P5, and I faintly recall that the Pentium Pro goes by P6...
Actually, Pentium IIs/IIIs/Celerons are just beefed up PPros. And Xeons are just beefed up (more cache) PIIs/PIIIs. So Intel hasn't really made a *new* chip since the P6, or PPro.
Come on Intel, isn't it time to retire the Pentium name? As if Pentium II and III weren't bad enough, now we have to deal with the Pentium IV. Even Williamette would be a better name.
If it wasn't for the Itanium, they'd probably still be calling their chips Pentiums 10 years from now...
I remembered when this mag was the ultimate PC magazince, hence the title. What happened to it? It's now about half as big as it used to be. All the reviews are about a paragraph long, and tell you absolutely nothing about what you want to buy.
Typical PC Magazine(tm) review: -hard to set up -doesn't come with a color setup poster -plugs aren't color coded -scored in the top 5% in the benchmarks
Seriously, what good is that? That's basically all they tell you, anyway.
There's nothing that stands out in this magazine anymore (except maybe the ads). Definately not the reviews. And all the content is free on the net, anyways. While I would prefer a paper-based mag to an internet one anyday, PC Magazine just does not cut it anymore.
As a student at the university, I can only wonder what the university plans to do with the domain. Do they just want the domain and plan on doing nothing with it, or do they actually have grand plans for purdueonline.com? I doubt they do, but nobody knows for sure. As far as the web page, I applaud the webmaster for not using any sort of advertising, and it is a nice service. The webmail feature is nice, but I can get my email just as easily sshing to expert or telnetting to mailhome. Seth
It's kinda dumb to carry around a nice, small PalmPilot, yet also carry around a bulky fold-up keyboard. I'd think the stylus would work good enough for just name/address/to-do/etc. After all, you're not writing a term paper on it or anything...
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as far as browsers go, though, Mozilla is one of the less bloated. Sure, it has mail & news clients embedded in them, and the Netscape-branded version will undoubtedly integrate AIM, but the download size is still very small compared to some other, well-known browsers.
I bet Netscape will release a browser-only version just like they did with the 4.x series, and have the full-featured suite for only a couple of megs more. That should please everybody enough, I'd think. Although it would be nice to also have a custom install routine where you could only install, say, the browser and the mail client, and leave the rest of the functions uninstalled. There are a lot of excellent mail/news clients for *nixes (and I guess Windows too), but I think why the Netscape mail/news client is so widely used is simply because it comes with the browser, has a similar interface, etc.
Offtopic... I know. But just happy to see one Purdue-alum in the Linux limelight.
Umm... you miss the point, bud. The reason I said Zip + CD-R + DVD was that they're all IDE devices. Add a hard disk, and you get 4 IDE devices -- 2 masters, 2 slaves. Dell wouldn't sell that config for a while (not sure if they do now), because having the Zip, which is PIO mode 4 I believe, would drop the ATA/33-compliant CD-RW or DVD to PIO-4 speeds, which Dell (rightfully so) thought was unacceptable. I'm not saying that this can't be made to work, but Dell would not ship out systems like that.
It's sort of moot though... who really needs a Zip when they have a CD-RW?
...is for quality systems. Look at people who are buying a computer for the first time -- while they probably won't be buying an AMD Thunderbird screamer -- they buy a Gateway, Dell, Compaq, etc., because it is a well respected brand name and there are people to go to if it doesn't work. The computer industry is one of the few industries where the finished product is very tempramental to types and brands of components used (try and buy a Dell with a Zip disk, DVD, and CD-RW... they probably won't sell it to you although it works fine), and people want the peace of mind that by buying a brand-name computer that everything will work great out-of-the-box.
This one flop probably won't hurt Gateway at all, but many flops like this might just turn some prospective customers to other brands that have less reported problems.
The last thing poor ol' Amiga needs is poor reviews. At least there is some hope!
Looks like a repeat story to me...
Not to mention that it was just posted a week or so ago!
Who are the idiots that submit stories *after* they've already seen the light of day on slashdot?
Yep... sure is. And avgas is higher grade stuff than car gas, too. Although it's leaded so you couldn't exactly put it in your car.
There are so many unique IDs in computers that I personally don't care. And plus, the PSN could always be disabled in the bios.
Oh yeah... and there's no way in hell you had an OC12 connected to your dorm, or even collection of dorms for that matter. At _BEST_ you had an OC12 for your entire university. Moron.
Oh yeah, and especially if he was using a 10base-T NIC, who gives a care about what the actual pipe is, fact is you're only going to see 1.2mb/sec.
I don't possibly think we can ever slashdot anything cooler than a potato.
Avoid those slow Sun ftp sites! A mirror have been made available for the linux and solaris versions:
ftp://ftp.c-60.org/pub/soffice/
I ever remember seeing it on slashdot one or two times. DVD hasn't even taken over the world yet, so I seriously doubt this will have any effect for at least 2 years or so.
In short, I'll believe it when I see it.
of course, WD's IDE drives use IBM's technology...
SCSI is better/faster than IDE, but it's *way* to expensive. If there was a 10-15% price difference, it would be worth the extra performance. But unfortunately, the price difference is much bigger (plus you have to spring for a SCSI card), and it isn't worth it.
For a server or high-performance workstation where you need to get every ounce of performance out of it, go SCSI. Anything else, go IDE.
that should read 34 C... I wish it ran at 34 F!
48 C is still awful hot! I sure hope that was a typo and really meant Farenheit.
My chip (Celeron) is running right now at 34 F, and that's plenty hot...
I think a P3 would melt at 113 C anyways...
I'll probably get flamed for this, but do you really think people care about bandwith anymore? In the era of Shockwave Flash, streaming media, MP3, spam, etc., etc... I mean, just think about how much faster the internet would be if suddenly there was no more spam (impossible, yes, but think about it!) Or if every site didn't have some sort of flashy intro or be completely loaded down with videos and music...
I mean, if we're gonna label this as wasted bandwith, at least label AOL the same way!
Whatever happened to 256 and 512? Why are they not basing memory sizes on powers of 2 anymore like they have for as long as I can remeber?
Actually, Pentium IIs/IIIs/Celerons are just beefed up PPros. And Xeons are just beefed up (more cache) PIIs/PIIIs. So Intel hasn't really made a *new* chip since the P6, or PPro.
Come on Intel, isn't it time to retire the Pentium name? As if Pentium II and III weren't bad enough, now we have to deal with the Pentium IV. Even Williamette would be a better name.
If it wasn't for the Itanium, they'd probably still be calling their chips Pentiums 10 years from now...
A quarter of a million dollars is a lot, but I'm surprised it wasn't more.
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I'm sure they learned their lesson, tho
I remembered when this mag was the ultimate PC magazince, hence the title. What happened to it? It's now about half as big as it used to be. All the reviews are about a paragraph long, and tell you absolutely nothing about what you want to buy.
Typical PC Magazine(tm) review:
-hard to set up
-doesn't come with a color setup poster
-plugs aren't color coded
-scored in the top 5% in the benchmarks
Seriously, what good is that? That's basically all they tell you, anyway.
There's nothing that stands out in this magazine anymore (except maybe the ads). Definately not the reviews. And all the content is free on the net, anyways. While I would prefer a paper-based mag to an internet one anyday, PC Magazine just does not cut it anymore.
As a student at the university, I can only wonder what the university plans to do with the domain. Do they just want the domain and plan on doing nothing with it, or do they actually have grand plans for purdueonline.com? I doubt they do, but nobody knows for sure. As far as the web page, I applaud the webmaster for not using any sort of advertising, and it is a nice service. The webmail feature is nice, but I can get my email just as easily sshing to expert or telnetting to mailhome. Seth
Then why not buy one of those WinCE devices? After all, it comes with a keyboard and "Pocket Word."
It's kinda dumb to carry around a nice, small PalmPilot, yet also carry around a bulky fold-up keyboard. I'd think the stylus would work good enough for just name/address/to-do/etc. After all, you're not writing a term paper on it or anything...