So? I see no reason their system shouldn't scale well enough to work here. We have more voters, but we also have a more polling places and people help count votes, so any system we can conceive of could be implemented. Even if I had to wait 12 hours, or however long, for results, rather than having an idea of who won an hour after the polls close. I'd much rather wait one little day for reliable results than have instant results that may or may not be accurate and precise. What's the rush?
The crux of their argument is that central counts unlike precinct count and even mediocre touchscreens offer the user a warning when they overvote or undervote for a race thus warning them that they ballot may not be counted and thus giving them a chance to fix it. Their argument is that this lack of a warning (however poor) is likely to cause many errors that the voters are never aware of.
Yes, voting is serious, and yes, we should check our own work. But we all make silly mistakes and typ0s sometimes, so why shouldn't we use every means possible to ensure EVERY vote is cast and counted as intended? Voting is indeed serious, so I don't understand how anyone can argue against using good designs and methods to ensure the proper result.
Like the ACLU is the shining torch bearer for all that is right and good in this country. How is someone's "civil liberties" encroached by using a paper ballot? Next they're gonna be gluing chicken feathers on bullfrogs and trying to teach them to fly.
For the 800,000th time, it ISN'T that paper ballots are bad, it's that a crappy system that may or may not count all votes correctly IS bad. Why settle for a slightly less crappy system when a better system could easily be put in place? Did Rush Limbaugh rant against paper today, or something? I don't support everything the ACLU says or does, but I'm also not afraid to support their position if it is the right position. Your comment is absurd.
If the casino industry can get the user interface to a digital slot machine so simple that a child can play, how difficult can it be to get a digital voting machine to get a valid vote?
I'm not sure how to compare slot machines to voting machines. With slot machines, you generally give away your money and are then told how much you can have back, if any, without any choice of your own.
Oh wait, now I see!!! Voting machines can operate in the same way: you give it your input, then it decides what to do next! This perfectly illustrates the potential problem with closed-source voting machines that produce no paper trail. You give your money to the tax man rather than to the voting machine, but the end result is similar: you lose control of what happens to! A good analogy after all.
ALong the lines of this, there is a procedure in Ohio to assist the blind or those who can not otherwise utilize a normal ballot themselves. I'm not sure how this works entirely, but there is an understanding that not everyone can work a regular ballot, whether for some physical or cognitive impairment that would not make them legally incompetent or otherwise ineligible to vote. There are conditions that prevent people form being able to read effectively, but that would not necessarily preclude them from being intelligent.
I like bingo blotters. We should really work to idiot-proof this, since even idiots are entitled to a vote, and there is no mistaking a big ol' circle in a big box next to a name, one page per contest/issue. Hand counting and reverification is slow, but something like this would be about as simple as it could get. If voting were like that and some idiot decided to draw pictures on his ballot, or pretend the "bingo" game was a "fill up" and marked every box, then oh well, sorry. (Images of Sean Connery on Celebrity Jeopardy suddenly come to mind.)
I don't think "central location" is a good way to tabulate the votes though. It would be easier to manipulate votes at a single location by a few people than it would if the tally is distributed across many people and locations, plus it distributes the work load in parallel so that sub-totals are quick. At least it would be much harder to hide with so many different personnel involved.
The idea of the central tabulation facility scared me a bit, but I wasn't sure exactly why. Now that I've thought about it, it seems that it would indeed be much easier to tamper with totals, and to achieve a desired result without making the numbers from any one ward or precinct look too suspicious - a little bit here, a little bit there, a few over there, and bingo: you have changed enough votes to flop a close race the other way.
If someone cannot take the time to devote a minimum amount of effort to fill out a ballot properly, perhaps they should not vote at all.
A frivolous lawsuit.
Disenfranchising the minuscule number of people who cannot fill out a paper ballot pails in comparison with the threat posed by computerized voting systems. The ACLU has their priorities all wrong.
WRONG. Why can't the system used be better than the touchscreen system that runs on voodoo and responds with winks and nods, AND be better than the scanned paper ballot system? EVERY vote should be counted. I'm not sure how their system differs from the one we used recently in Summit County (Akron, Ohio area, adjacent to Cuyahoga County), but I think the one I used last checked for errors when we submitted our ballots by feeding them into a scanner of some sort. I don't know if this officially counted my vote then, but I seem to remember it giving feedback that the ballot was accepted. If I hadn't had a fever of 104F I would have paid more attention to that, but I was busy trying to see straight and not pass out in line.
ANY voting and tabulation system that leaves a paper trail is better than ANY similar system that does not, in my opinion. Cuyahoga County screwed up in more ways than one in recent elections, so the ACLU (and all the friends and family I have in the county) want to make damn sure they fix their shit as well as possible this time. I've heard the tales of HOURS-long lines, broken machines, a lack of staff who knew how to operated the machines, and serious result irregularities in Cuyahoga County, so this isn't just about disenfranchising a few numbskulls. The ACLU has their priorities perfectly in order.
Looks like I misspoke a bit... looks like the point of this post isn't to ask something that could have been easily googled, it was for this chump to plug his blog. So, let me rephrase:
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Hemp oil is also highly nutritious and can be used as other vegetable oils are....and for some odd reason, an hour after dinner you get this uncontrollable urge to eat a LOT of Twinkies.
(I know, I know... but I couldn't pass up the chance to say that).
Yeah, good one, that's hilarious. Perpetuating utterly false misinformation that keeps a highly useful and sustainable crop from being legal is SO funny. If that is clever, I've got another one for you:
Hemp seed is imported into the US only by terrorists, it shreds puppies, and hates Jesus. It is also highly radioactive, makes people sterile, and originated on planet Xircon 6. Hah! So funny. OMG lol.
Is that in Earth years or Mars years?
It's about time NASA and all other space agencies adopt 10-base time systems.
Or hell even StarDates a la StarTrek.
Who uses Mars years to tell time? Earth years work perfectly fine for us, considering we are all from Earth (I think) and everything else we do is rather Earth-centric. Besides, StarTrek-style stardates don't even work for StarTrek. From wikipedia:
"Within a single episode, TNG writers have most commonly increased stardates at the rate of one unit per Earth day, contradicting the 1000 units per year used on the larger scale. Although closer to a usable system than they were in the original series, stardates remain inconsistent and often arbitrary. For example, Ron Moore has said flatly that stardates do not make sense and shouldn't be examined closely."
Sounds a bit like the amazing feat of technology and creativity that was featured on SNL some years ago:
Adobe. The sassy new Mexican import that's made out of clay. German engineering and Mexican know-how helped create the first car to break the $200 barrier. At this price, you might not expect more than reliable transportation - but, brother, you get it! Extra features: like the custom contour seats, or the beverage-gripping dash. And the money you save isn't exactly small change!
Not approved for street use in some states. No warranty either expressed or implied. All sales final.
I tend to watch most DVDs on my laptop these days. I upgrade roughly every three years, so in two years I might end up with a BD or HD-DVD drive. At that point, I might start watching movies on whichever format the drive supports. I don't buy DVDs anymore though, I only ever rent them.
I bought a Toshiba laptop recently, and it happened to come with a combo drive that plays HD-DVDs. I didn't buy it for this fact, since I don't quite understand how HD movies will look much better than regular DVDs on a 17" screen. For a home theater setup with a BIG freakin screen it might make sense, but I've watched two HD movies and wasn't blown away. Sure, they looked nice, but no so much better than DVDs on such a relatively small screen that I would pay extra for them. I could not really tell the difference. If I bought movies (I don't) I sure wouldn't be buying HD DVDs. I think for most of us this would be a wasteful, pointless upgrade.
If I suddenly find myself with more money than I can spend, I will retract the above statements.
Yeah, I'm sure the NTSB will have a great laugh when they find out that two people have boarded a plane with the intention of sitting in the same seat. I hear they always find it hilarious when an unauthorized "passenger" slips aboard a plane. They even have a special word for those people: terrorists. Just imagine if you get airborne: the NTSB will radio the plane, the pilot will make a u-turn, the crew will get flustered and stare at you, and the other passengers will "subdue" the shit out of your face, over and over, until the plane lands, upon which time you'll be arrested, or buried. Brilliant vacation, if you are into super-extreme, airborne, 100 vs. one ultimate fighting, and like dying or trips to federal pound me in the you-know-what prison.
4 wheels, small size and running on electricity - Electric wheelchair !
"Until I got my Jazzy, I felt left out of the fun, and had a hard time getting around. Now, I can chase down the elderly crooks who don't have power chairs, and I feel alive again."
People are losing what little respect they once had for each other and for themselves, such respect being the foundation of law and order and societal stability; and they are now more and more turning to (and bowing to) the use of force instead, where in more civilized times their respect for each other or for themselves would have prevented them from turning to (or bowing to) such shows of force.
Shall I remove myself from your lawn, Mr. Old Man River? Everyone has preached this doom and gloom business about younger folks for countless generations now. If everything had REALLY been getting soooo much worse every day, for 500 years or more now, shouldn't we be a lot worse off? Yeah, there are some bad people. There have always been some bad people. These generalizations kill me (much more so than have the marauding bands of baby-eating, puppy-shredding thugs that the next generation comprise.) DON'T PANIC!
Ditto that. My attempts at running linux stretch back to Slackware somewhere around 1995, give or take a year. I remember hating Windows even then, but wanting something better than DOS. I liked OS/2, so naturally no one else did. I've since played around with various Redhats and Fedoras, multiple incarnations of SUSE, Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Mandrake, Mepis, GeexBox, and even FreeBSD. None of them were able to completely supplant the version of Windows I hoped they'd replace.
Now I dual boot XP and Fiesty on my desktop (been that way for a while now), while my laptop currently runs Vista (no dang XP drivers) and Sabayon (my new toy, until I get bored with it and try something else). I'm at a point where I can run linux most of the time for my daily needs, but not to where I plan on ditching MS entirely, due to a few things I haven't found replacements for yet. I won't be so foolish as to predict 2xxx will be "the year of linux on the desktop," but it has really narrowed the gap considerably. It has not closed the gap yet, but it's getting VERY close, at least for those of us who aren't big gamers or forced by our employers to use MS.
Oh, and I'm just an amateur geek. I 'm not paid to administer networks or others' computers, and I wouldn't say I spend endless hours configuring my systems. I just don't think it is really all that difficult to try new things and google for help when I need it. I'm not good in a shell but even I managed to get MythTV running between two machines. I think most experienced computer users could at least see what linux is all about with minimal effort or risk, especially since there is a genuine disdain for MS in the community at large.
Putinism is popular and Russians will keep voting for it. This is no surprise if you talk to more than a handful of Russians. They don't need to commit electoral fraud because they've already got the populace on their side.
Yeah, you're probably right. So, since he and his party would win anyway, I think they should stop forcing the people to go to the polls to re-elect them all the time, and just declare Putin Ruler For Life. Let him and his inner circle decide what to do, since the probably know what is best for everyone else. That sounds like something that would benefit all Russians really well, and put them at peace with the rest of the world. The elections don't matter because we are so sure of the results ahead of time, so there is no reason to hold them, right?
While tech failings may have hindered our boys' progress, and perhaps put them, in danger moreso than was necessary, that doesn't matter. The mission was accomplished years ago!!! Don't worry if you had anything to do with what went wrong, WE WON!!!!!!
...now if we could only convince the "terrist" insurgents, the Iraqi people, and the rest of the world (aside from the governments of the UK and Australia), we'd be in business.
Microsoft has terminated its CIO Stuart Scott for 'violation of company policies'. They won't elaborate. Now what do you think this guy has done?
I think he was fired because he was moonlighting with ESPN, and being the most annoying guy on SportsCenter.
(ESPN is a cable television network that focuses mainly on sports, since you don't know. It is that channel you occasionally watch poker on late at night, and SportsCenter is a show other people watch sometimes. Naturally I don't expect anyone to mod my post up for being funny, because no one here will get it.)
HP and Dell laptops have the ability to have CompuTrace be permanently installed in the BIOS, where even a full reformat of the hard disks or a reflash of the BIOS will not remove it. If I were betting, I'd lay odds on this being the way Outback's IT department got their man
Note to self:
1. Steal more Lenovo, Toshiba, Sony, Apple, and Gateway laptops.
2. Avoid HP and Dell laptops.
3. Always wipe the drives before testing, and check the BIOS for oddities.
Four years? What about before that? Are you eleven years old, and just got your first computer in 2003? I've only ever had one virus/etc., and that was around 1993, give or take a year. I think I once downloaded warez from a questionable BBS with a popular sysop, with the intention of uploading it elsewhere, but I decided to test whatever it was first (thinking the sysop tested it as he claimed) and got infected. I learned from that and have been careful since.
Avast! is working well for me currently, with Comodo Firewall Pro, until I decide to switch to something else. I've never used Internet Explorer any more than was absolutely necessary, and I've been pretty happy with my internet experience, even under XP, 98SE and 95, as well as various Linux flavors. Just don't run stupid shit, don't open random email attachments, and use respectable AV and firewall software, and you shouldn't have much to worry about. I run various anti-spyware tests and the like periodically, but the always come up negative for anything dangerous.
Is moving really not an option? I know you said you've lived there for 20 years, but I might have moved 10 years ago if all I could get was 26.4k and I wanted to work from home online! To be serious, you've probably got a lot of equity in that home (if you don't already own it outright), and you are gainfully employed, so I'm sure you could find a comparable property in a technologically better location. 26.4k is a REAL bummer.
If you're that isolated, couldn't you chop down one or two measly trees and put a satellite dish up on a 10-20 foot mast without needing a permit or your neighbors freaking out? That would give you at least a reasonable downlink. I'm not sure what sat connections cost these days, since I have AT&T DSL available in the town I just moved to, which I recently cancelled after two days and three attempts at getting the service I requested. Then there's Time Warner Cable, with its independent contractors like Jeb's Redneck Cable Co. and NoShow Cable Inc., which destroy your bathroom, let your cat escape, and always make any installation or service change a real adventure. Even a "borrowed" wifi connection to an unknown neighbor's cable was better than AT&T, unfortunately. But the last time I used dialup, temporarily in 2002 I think, I still got twice your 26.4k down speed. Ouch.
In the case of SCO, it is more like "buy low, get pissed-off and sell lower," or maybe "buy low, get pissed-off when the company moves from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7, liquidates all of its assets, and ceases all operations."
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So? I see no reason their system shouldn't scale well enough to work here. We have more voters, but we also have a more polling places and people help count votes, so any system we can conceive of could be implemented. Even if I had to wait 12 hours, or however long, for results, rather than having an idea of who won an hour after the polls close. I'd much rather wait one little day for reliable results than have instant results that may or may not be accurate and precise. What's the rush?
Yes, voting is serious, and yes, we should check our own work. But we all make silly mistakes and typ0s sometimes, so why shouldn't we use every means possible to ensure EVERY vote is cast and counted as intended? Voting is indeed serious, so I don't understand how anyone can argue against using good designs and methods to ensure the proper result.
For the 800,000th time, it ISN'T that paper ballots are bad, it's that a crappy system that may or may not count all votes correctly IS bad. Why settle for a slightly less crappy system when a better system could easily be put in place? Did Rush Limbaugh rant against paper today, or something? I don't support everything the ACLU says or does, but I'm also not afraid to support their position if it is the right position. Your comment is absurd.
I'm not sure how to compare slot machines to voting machines. With slot machines, you generally give away your money and are then told how much you can have back, if any, without any choice of your own.
Oh wait, now I see!!! Voting machines can operate in the same way: you give it your input, then it decides what to do next! This perfectly illustrates the potential problem with closed-source voting machines that produce no paper trail. You give your money to the tax man rather than to the voting machine, but the end result is similar: you lose control of what happens to! A good analogy after all.
ALong the lines of this, there is a procedure in Ohio to assist the blind or those who can not otherwise utilize a normal ballot themselves. I'm not sure how this works entirely, but there is an understanding that not everyone can work a regular ballot, whether for some physical or cognitive impairment that would not make them legally incompetent or otherwise ineligible to vote. There are conditions that prevent people form being able to read effectively, but that would not necessarily preclude them from being intelligent.
I like bingo blotters. We should really work to idiot-proof this, since even idiots are entitled to a vote, and there is no mistaking a big ol' circle in a big box next to a name, one page per contest/issue. Hand counting and reverification is slow, but something like this would be about as simple as it could get. If voting were like that and some idiot decided to draw pictures on his ballot, or pretend the "bingo" game was a "fill up" and marked every box, then oh well, sorry. (Images of Sean Connery on Celebrity Jeopardy suddenly come to mind.)
The idea of the central tabulation facility scared me a bit, but I wasn't sure exactly why. Now that I've thought about it, it seems that it would indeed be much easier to tamper with totals, and to achieve a desired result without making the numbers from any one ward or precinct look too suspicious - a little bit here, a little bit there, a few over there, and bingo: you have changed enough votes to flop a close race the other way.
WRONG. Why can't the system used be better than the touchscreen system that runs on voodoo and responds with winks and nods, AND be better than the scanned paper ballot system? EVERY vote should be counted. I'm not sure how their system differs from the one we used recently in Summit County (Akron, Ohio area, adjacent to Cuyahoga County), but I think the one I used last checked for errors when we submitted our ballots by feeding them into a scanner of some sort. I don't know if this officially counted my vote then, but I seem to remember it giving feedback that the ballot was accepted. If I hadn't had a fever of 104F I would have paid more attention to that, but I was busy trying to see straight and not pass out in line.
ANY voting and tabulation system that leaves a paper trail is better than ANY similar system that does not, in my opinion. Cuyahoga County screwed up in more ways than one in recent elections, so the ACLU (and all the friends and family I have in the county) want to make damn sure they fix their shit as well as possible this time. I've heard the tales of HOURS-long lines, broken machines, a lack of staff who knew how to operated the machines, and serious result irregularities in Cuyahoga County, so this isn't just about disenfranchising a few numbskulls. The ACLU has their priorities perfectly in order.
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Yeah, good one, that's hilarious. Perpetuating utterly false misinformation that keeps a highly useful and sustainable crop from being legal is SO funny. If that is clever, I've got another one for you:
Hemp seed is imported into the US only by terrorists, it shreds puppies, and hates Jesus. It is also highly radioactive, makes people sterile, and originated on planet Xircon 6. Hah! So funny. OMG lol.
Who uses Mars years to tell time? Earth years work perfectly fine for us, considering we are all from Earth (I think) and everything else we do is rather Earth-centric. Besides, StarTrek-style stardates don't even work for StarTrek. From wikipedia:
"Within a single episode, TNG writers have most commonly increased stardates at the rate of one unit per Earth day, contradicting the 1000 units per year used on the larger scale. Although closer to a usable system than they were in the original series, stardates remain inconsistent and often arbitrary. For example, Ron Moore has said flatly that stardates do not make sense and shouldn't be examined closely."
Adobe. The sassy new Mexican import that's made out of clay. German engineering and Mexican know-how helped create the first car to break the $200 barrier. At this price, you might not expect more than reliable transportation - but, brother, you get it! Extra features: like the custom contour seats, or the beverage-gripping dash. And the money you save isn't exactly small change!
Not approved for street use in some states. No warranty either expressed or implied. All sales final.
I bought a Toshiba laptop recently, and it happened to come with a combo drive that plays HD-DVDs. I didn't buy it for this fact, since I don't quite understand how HD movies will look much better than regular DVDs on a 17" screen. For a home theater setup with a BIG freakin screen it might make sense, but I've watched two HD movies and wasn't blown away. Sure, they looked nice, but no so much better than DVDs on such a relatively small screen that I would pay extra for them. I could not really tell the difference. If I bought movies (I don't) I sure wouldn't be buying HD DVDs. I think for most of us this would be a wasteful, pointless upgrade.
If I suddenly find myself with more money than I can spend, I will retract the above statements.
Yeah, I'm sure the NTSB will have a great laugh when they find out that two people have boarded a plane with the intention of sitting in the same seat. I hear they always find it hilarious when an unauthorized "passenger" slips aboard a plane. They even have a special word for those people: terrorists. Just imagine if you get airborne: the NTSB will radio the plane, the pilot will make a u-turn, the crew will get flustered and stare at you, and the other passengers will "subdue" the shit out of your face, over and over, until the plane lands, upon which time you'll be arrested, or buried. Brilliant vacation, if you are into super-extreme, airborne, 100 vs. one ultimate fighting, and like dying or trips to federal pound me in the you-know-what prison.
"Until I got my Jazzy, I felt left out of the fun, and had a hard time getting around. Now, I can chase down the elderly crooks who don't have power chairs, and I feel alive again."
Thank You,
Officer Crusty McPhaterson, NYPD
Shall I remove myself from your lawn, Mr. Old Man River? Everyone has preached this doom and gloom business about younger folks for countless generations now. If everything had REALLY been getting soooo much worse every day, for 500 years or more now, shouldn't we be a lot worse off? Yeah, there are some bad people. There have always been some bad people. These generalizations kill me (much more so than have the marauding bands of baby-eating, puppy-shredding thugs that the next generation comprise.) DON'T PANIC!
Now I dual boot XP and Fiesty on my desktop (been that way for a while now), while my laptop currently runs Vista (no dang XP drivers) and Sabayon (my new toy, until I get bored with it and try something else). I'm at a point where I can run linux most of the time for my daily needs, but not to where I plan on ditching MS entirely, due to a few things I haven't found replacements for yet. I won't be so foolish as to predict 2xxx will be "the year of linux on the desktop," but it has really narrowed the gap considerably. It has not closed the gap yet, but it's getting VERY close, at least for those of us who aren't big gamers or forced by our employers to use MS.
Oh, and I'm just an amateur geek. I 'm not paid to administer networks or others' computers, and I wouldn't say I spend endless hours configuring my systems. I just don't think it is really all that difficult to try new things and google for help when I need it. I'm not good in a shell but even I managed to get MythTV running between two machines. I think most experienced computer users could at least see what linux is all about with minimal effort or risk, especially since there is a genuine disdain for MS in the community at large.
Yeah, you're probably right. So, since he and his party would win anyway, I think they should stop forcing the people to go to the polls to re-elect them all the time, and just declare Putin Ruler For Life. Let him and his inner circle decide what to do, since the probably know what is best for everyone else. That sounds like something that would benefit all Russians really well, and put them at peace with the rest of the world. The elections don't matter because we are so sure of the results ahead of time, so there is no reason to hold them, right?
Joe should just buy another product, or setup his own server software to access the disk.
I think he was fired because he was moonlighting with ESPN, and being the most annoying guy on SportsCenter.
(ESPN is a cable television network that focuses mainly on sports, since you don't know. It is that channel you occasionally watch poker on late at night, and SportsCenter is a show other people watch sometimes. Naturally I don't expect anyone to mod my post up for being funny, because no one here will get it.)
Note to self:
1. Steal more Lenovo, Toshiba, Sony, Apple, and Gateway laptops.
2. Avoid HP and Dell laptops.
3. Always wipe the drives before testing, and check the BIOS for oddities.
3. Profit.
Four years? What about before that? Are you eleven years old, and just got your first computer in 2003? I've only ever had one virus/etc., and that was around 1993, give or take a year. I think I once downloaded warez from a questionable BBS with a popular sysop, with the intention of uploading it elsewhere, but I decided to test whatever it was first (thinking the sysop tested it as he claimed) and got infected. I learned from that and have been careful since.
Avast! is working well for me currently, with Comodo Firewall Pro, until I decide to switch to something else. I've never used Internet Explorer any more than was absolutely necessary, and I've been pretty happy with my internet experience, even under XP, 98SE and 95, as well as various Linux flavors. Just don't run stupid shit, don't open random email attachments, and use respectable AV and firewall software, and you shouldn't have much to worry about. I run various anti-spyware tests and the like periodically, but the always come up negative for anything dangerous.
If you're that isolated, couldn't you chop down one or two measly trees and put a satellite dish up on a 10-20 foot mast without needing a permit or your neighbors freaking out? That would give you at least a reasonable downlink. I'm not sure what sat connections cost these days, since I have AT&T DSL available in the town I just moved to, which I recently cancelled after two days and three attempts at getting the service I requested. Then there's Time Warner Cable, with its independent contractors like Jeb's Redneck Cable Co. and NoShow Cable Inc., which destroy your bathroom, let your cat escape, and always make any installation or service change a real adventure. Even a "borrowed" wifi connection to an unknown neighbor's cable was better than AT&T, unfortunately. But the last time I used dialup, temporarily in 2002 I think, I still got twice your 26.4k down speed. Ouch.
In the case of SCO, it is more like "buy low, get pissed-off and sell lower," or maybe "buy low, get pissed-off when the company moves from Chapter 11 to Chapter 7, liquidates all of its assets, and ceases all operations."