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Nasdaq to Delist SCO Sep 27
symbolset writes "The Nasdaq Staff has decided to delist SCO at open of business on September 27, 2007 under their discretionary authority and as a result of SCO filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. SCO can get a hearing but "There can be no assurance that the panel will grant the Company's request for continued listing.""
Remember to fit the grave with a bell "just in case" :)
I got dibs on sco.com!
So what happens to those of us who short sold their stock?
So, leading providers often file Chapter 11?
I could some how take credit for this, it seems like a positive achievement.
"Thanks for all the money you paid to us. We've used it to buy off ISO among other things" -Microsoft
I'm guessing that Slashdot contributed a lot in making the right thing happen concerning SCO. Slashdot got the message out to everyone, over and over again, helping deprive SCO of profit from confused executives.
Looks like they're heading for the pink sheets!
SGI did, but they also pulled out of bankruptcy.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
NASDAQ delisted dot-com darling Salon.com (SALN), but its corpse has managed to shuffle around long enough to make it into the glorious Web 2.0 era. The SCO may also rise again.
Perhaps leading suppliers of UNIX do...
Cordially,
A FreeBSD user
nasdaq delists you!
I started investing my $20,000 student loan instead of using it to get my MBA. Well, I bought about $7000 worth SCOX stock back when it was worth a little more than a dollar. Well, now I am very worried about what is going to happen to my investment. It is bad enough that it has depreciated more than five times what I paid. And to those wondering... I didn't buy the SCOX stock because I thought The SCO Group would win against IBM. And I use Linux a lot. I bought the SCO stock because I thought their UnixWare and Open Server offerings were valuable enough that in time the market would weigh them instead of voting. I really hope Darl can turn this around pretty fast. Posted anonymously for obvious reasons.
Someone, maybe Novell, needs to ask the Bankruptcy Court to deny SCO's filing for Chapter 11 on the grounds that there's no way they can re-organize into a viable operation, and therefore they need to be liquidated. Then the creditors can auction off the honor of kicking Darl out on his ass.
For those of you who remember this tired old phrase:
SHORT SCO NOW! *
* this, for anyone who remembers just how long ago that was first heard on slashdot...
Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
As much as I like seeing these guys suffer, I'm starting to think that its about enough of that. I know everyone was nervous during the suit; even though we all knew they had no legal leg to stand on, the US court system is not what it used to be. So most of us were afraid of the future of linux, and now we can justifiably laugh at them.
/. post. Really, we're giving them more attention then they deserve. The company never put out anything useful (SCO did. Caldera did. The SCO Group didn't), so its no wonder they're dying. Now really, can't we just let them die without all this coverage?
However, i'm starting to get tired of hearing about The SCO Group in every third
So, leading providers often file Chapter 11?
Just leading providers of lawsuits.From their Form 8-K filing:
Why yes, yes, this seems like a splendid time to start giving out raises.
I'm pretty ignorant of finance and law, but is there any reason whatsoever for the stockholders not to sue the board into destitution at this point?
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Just be prepared for future waves of SCO penny stock pump-n-dump spam mailings.
Buy low, sell high.
Will I buy it? Absolutely.
Not. (ok technically, that's about three things to say)
Yeah? Well I think you're overrated too.
Soon, we will be getting spam pumping SCOX.pk.
The question is, will the the SCO management be the ones sending out the spam?
Fight Spammers!
From this article
http://www.forbes.com/2007/09/19/software-linux-lawsuits-tech-oped-cx_dl_0919lyons.html
Daniel Lyons has some choice quotes
"I reported what they said. Turns out I was getting played. They never produced a smoking gun."
and
"It is simply this: I got it wrong. The nerds got it right."
Not often you find a journalist reporting on their failure of foresight. Daniel gained a few points in my book.
From SCO's press release: a leading provider of UNIX(R) software technology and mobile services
:-)
I have to laugh every time I see this line in their press releases. Even before their ill-advised journey in to the legal system, and back in their prime and heyday and earlier incarnations, SCO was never the leading provider of a damned thing.
What would make this story complete would be if SCO's remaining share holders were to file suit against its officers and directors.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to get ready to listen to the Fat Lady sing
I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
It's common in bankruptcy to pay people extra to stay (those that will/could have a material impact on the finances of the company). The company I was at recently paid stay bonuses and a couple people saved the company far more money than they were paid to stay due to information they had on open issues.
Do these Clowns even have anymore customers after what they've pulled? Who the hell would even stick with their products with all of this fiasco going on? If they do have any, then perhaps we of the Tech Field should point them to a much better solution for their needs, eh?
Hey, isn't Micro$oft owning Novell, as of lately ? So, if Novell ends up with any exclusive Unix property, doesn't that mean that this can be used by Micro$oft to bully Linux competition ?
...turn out the lights.
Oh, and grab me one of them Aeron chairs while you're at it.
Thanks!
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That's a typo. It's supposed to be "a leaving provider..."
8 is divisible by 2, and 6 is divisible by 3! 86 is related to 23! I should write a movie about it!
The parent comment was moderated "Troll", and several people have made disparaging comments.
However, this is how I figure it, and I'm serious, not joking: Slashdot kept the SCO issues and Groklaw's analysis of them in front of the eyes of a lot of Slashdot readers who were executives or knew executives, and in the normal course of discussing computer issues, created a culture of understanding SCO as not trustworthy.
As poor as the editing of Slashdot is sometimes, I don't know any better way to get computer-related news. If you know of a better way, please mention it.
I'm not impressed. Anyone can say, "Oh. Er, oops." It's easy to couch it in terms that *sound* like you're really humble, like "I was really REALLY wrong." Big deal.
He makes it sound like it just so happened that the geeks were right and he was wrong. "Turns out those amateur sleuths were right." He refers to arguably one of the largest communities of people who do this for a living plus interested and competent hobbyists as though he were saying, "Oh, look! Those little kids turned out to be right after all."
He does not see *why* we saw that SCO had no leg to stand on. He does not realize how, next time, he can do better than the flip of a coin. He says, "... the pack of amateur sleuths who were following the case on a Web site called Groklaw and who claimed to know for sure that SCO was going to lose," and doesn't realize the painstaking review and due diligence that went on there that would put wikipedia to shame.
He says:
Er, so SCO failed because Linux was too successful?
No, Mr. Lyons. SCO failed because SCO was wrong , and if they had won, they still would have been wrong except there would have been a miscarriage of justice. It's not because someone threw the dice wrong or that the "pack" known as Slashdot or Groklaw happened to have a good day. It's not because you've been getting too much email pointing out that you were misinformed, Mr. Lyons, or ignorant.
You don't fool me. Your basic thinking shows through in your words, even though those words sound nice on the surface. Kinda like the press releases of this other company I know that turned out to be wrong.
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(By the way, I expect Laura Didio and Enderle to write something like, "Well, darnit, looks like Novell owns the rights to Unix, not SCO. So we'll just wait for Novell to sue Linux for blatant copying of Unix source into Linux.")
404555974007725459910684486621289147856453481154 in hex is "You sank my Battleship?"
[GPG key in journal]
sampsenpuz said this story was from the please-let-this-be-the-end dept, but it should more aptly be filed under shutup-sco-and-die-already dept.
But that's just my particular filing method.
SEO Copywriter. Just Say ON
Company:
"Not to mention the Golden Handcuffs. You know about Golden Handcuffs?"
Jones nods. "Sure, the bonus an executive gets when he leaves the company."
"No, no, that's a Golden Parachute."
"Oh--right. The signing bonus, then."
"That's the Golden Handshake. Golden Handcuffs are what they get for working in a company with low morale. First they screw up the company, then because it's hard to attract good staff, they pay themselves more."
"But that's wrong!" Jones says, shocked. "Did somebody take this up with Daniel Klausman?" Freddy cracks up again. Even Holly smiles. "Remember when you first started here, Freddy, and you thought everyone was clever and helpful and only wanted to do what's best for the company?"
"Yeah. I used to shine my shoes."
The problem was less that he was wrong, and more that he just reported what SCO said without being skeptical or attempting to suss out how full of shit they were. And from day one, there were plenty of indications that SCO had nothing.
A reporter's job isn't to be a stenographer for whatever anyone wants to say. We have press releases for that.
Reporters are supposed to get stories, sort out the various facts, and if someone's feeding them bullshit, point that out. The tendency for reporters today to be "balanced" in reporting on an issue really just means that people with nothing to back up what they say are put on even footing with people who have facts to back up their claims.
Let's hope Lyons learned that he actually has to do some, you know, reporting, as part of his job.
2 bits of advice, that is:
1) Place foot in mouth.
2) Shoot self in foot.
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Come to think of it, if they'd have had Darl do that, they might still be a "going concern".
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Good Riddance, to ya' and yer scurvy pox of a lawsuit!
"...there are some things that can beat smartness and foresight. Awkwardness and stupidity can." ~ Mark Twain
Big news expected.*This stock will implode!*
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Do not wait until it is too late!!!
LOOK AND WATCH SCOX THIS MONDAY
New news expected next week.
Expected 7 day price -$1.10
Last time they put out major news the stock ran like shit down a toddler's leg!
(SYMBOL: SCOX)
Price: $
Short Term Target: 300-500% Loss
*******PRESS RELEASE******
**SCOX****SCOX****SCOX**** =
A $1,000 dollar investment could yield a $5,000 dollar trip around the toilet bowl in just one trade if you trade out before you hit the water trap. SCOX should be one of the most exciting stocks to trade for Sept, if you like roller coasters that only go down! In this range the stock has potential to move in the nether direction in big concrete shoes!!!! This means you should be able to buy at the lows and sell even lower, if you can get the fuck out of the way of this oncoming train fast enough! Did we tell you you've been tied to the track!!!!!!!!!!
If the company is able to effectuate it's business model, WATCH OUT!!! We could see a GREAT STORY IN THE MAKING. Uproariously funny and documented all over the web for everyone to see!!!!
GOOD LUCK AND TRADE OUT BEFORE YOU HIT THE WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY!
Remove the caps and hold to a mirror.
Good riddance.
I'll roast marshmallows over a fire made with my SCO Linux install CD's...
Last minute payments to an insider just before filing bankruptcy? That's disastrous for SCO. This is waving a red flag in front of the bankruptcy judge. This screams "attempted asset stripping".
It won't work, either. The bankruptcy trustee can retroactively undo that payment. The trustee can go back into the past 90 days for any transaction and undo it, or back a full year for anything involving an insider. Special payments to insiders during a bankruptcy need explicit permission from the bankruptcy court. And saying "we did it before the bankruptcy" won't help. The law (11 U.S.C. 547) is that "the debtor is presumed to have been insolvent on and during the 90 days immediately preceding the date of the filing of the petition."
The side effects of this will be severe. Remember, SCO management is currently only a "debtor in possession", and can do only whatever the bankruptcy trustee and the court specifically let them do. As soon as the judge gets word of this, SCO's management will have their chain yanked. SCO management will be much more closely supervised and have much less discretionary authority than they expected.
SCO management was apparently thinking they could go into chapter 11 quietly and cut Novell out of the loop. They didn't even list Novell as a creditor in their initial filing. That plan stopped flying when Novell sent five bankruptcy attorneys from Morrison and Foerster to Delaware for the first-day bankruptcy hearing.
Novell's request for a "constructive trust" for the unpaid royalty payments just got a huge boost. Now they'll probably get it. Which drains out most of SCO's cash.
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You are given the honor of choosing one of these 3 OS's to be deployed at your company:
1) SCO Unix
2) Windows Vista
3) CP/M
I know it's shameful, but i am gloating so much right now. Having followed this story for years, I am finally hearing the news that everyone has waited for. People might be playing this down, but this really is the end for SCO. I still want to seem them dragged through streets of jeering, vegetable throwing hordes, and any other humiliation that can be mustered, but the final nails in their coffin have finally been hammerred in. Darl reminds me of that Iraqi secretary of state guy (saddams buddy), still telling everyone that there are no problems, and the stockholders have no need to worry haha. i would love to see darls head on a spike the most hehe Anyone who isn't pleased at the outcome after the shameful mockery that SCO have been playing through, should be ashamed of themselves.
If i could be bothered to link to a sample of nelson in in the simpsons i would do so right here
you;ll have to excuse my incoherence. I've been up all night after a night shift, and it's 8am now. my words don't really do justice to the gloat and self righteousness i feel right now haha. Everyone knows the SCO group are a parasitical organisation, existing by leeching everything they can get away with. What good have SCO done the citizens of the world? None, they are a blight on this world, and the sooner they're wiped off the face of the planet the better. We all know that the world could be a better place with true collaboration such as that displayed by the open source community in all its divisions, Even big corporate entities with proprietary products provide something which people are willing to pay for, but SCO, they do nothing apart from make their wallets fatter at others expense.
May you rust in pieces hahahaha
I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. Isaac Asimov
Not original with, but worth repeating and I'm sorry I can't give proper credit to the wit who came up with it. All I can say is I saw it somewhere on the Web recently, and it stuck with me for the obvious reasons.
My own idea for a new logo would have been something boring, like the toilet bowl, but that suggestion was claimed long ago--and repeatedly.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
Whoops. Preview my post? Where do you think this is, /.?
The suggested new SCO logo is $<0, not HTML with a 0 tag.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
IANAL, but I thought the court said Novell owns UNIX, so what's this quote doing in the linked article:
SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to UNIX-based system software providers.
WTF ???
It's unix, so everything is a file, even Chapter 11
You missed the next bit: SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to UNIX-based system software providers.
This goes beyond marketing-speak lying, I don't know about the US but in Germany, telling big whoppers like that in order to manipulate share prices can land you with a large fine or even jail time. I wonder what the post-Enron legislation is going to mean in this case.
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect.
rm -fr /mnt/sco /dev/sco /dev/sco /dev/sco /mnt/linux /mnt/linux/LongLiveUnix
umount
mkfs.ext3
mount
echo "SCO is dead. Long live UNIX." >
When can we expect the first pump'n'dump spam for SCO? "Buy SCO for 1 cents today..."
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Thats because SGI still have products worth buying ;)
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To determine if a stock's stock's price is low, you have to compare the share price to the company's future earnings prospects. A few year's back, the price of AAPL was low.
Scox has never earned anything, and is never likely to earn anything. That means that scox is overvalued at any price.
Day traders, and the funds, may send scox's share price up temporarily, if you want to gamble. But, even if you do want to gamble, there are probably better risks.
JMHO.
I think you may have a Y2K bug there... its actually 2007. ;)
i am redoing my bathroom and i thought it would be great to paper the walls (and if i have any leftover, my arse) with sco stock certificates. do they even really exist or is it all done electronically?
I was referring to the cases, I swear, those O2 toasters are the greatest ^_^
And lets face it, a plastic faeces producing factory would make a more interesting product than SCO could.
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But SGI stopped selling it's UNIX(R) software & technology earlier this year. IRIX(R) is no longer available thru SGI's normal channels, and support ends in 2013 ("no sooner than 12/2013" is the quote). And all their current hardware runs SUSE or RedHat Linux or even Windows Compute Cluster Server 2003 software now.
My pair of Indy's weep blue tears...
...almost. It's still too early for McCoy to repeat his trademarked phrase, Jim, since the patient is still on life support (although it's apparently been brain dead for years).
I'll cheer more when Sony dies. All SCO did was to rattle sabers at the Linux community, not unlike when Nikita Khrushchev banged his shoe on the table at the UN yelling "we will bury you!" Even though I'm a Linux user and booster, there was no way SCO was going to bury Linux; SCO was little more than an annoying joke.
So I'm kind of sad, I like jokes. Even bad jokes like SCO. Here's hoping McBride's new job will be CEO of Sony. Then when he he kills that damned demon, maybe he can get a job with Microsoft?
-mcgrew
One thing to add... When you buy a stock "long", the most you can lose is your investment. When you sell short, your risk is unbounded.
Say you short 100 shares of SCOX at $0.50. (This is actually probably not allowed under the rules but anyway... There are specific rules about what stock you can and can't short, and when you can and when you can't short.) Then SCOX stages a miracle recovery and goes to $5. You are out $500 (-$50). The heavens open up and SCOX goes to $50. You are now out $5000! This against the fact that the most you could gain by your short was $50.
I shorted a stock called DNA many years ago. I had a stop-limit in place to limit my lose. I was lucky. DNA double from where I shorted it. Once it doubled, though, it proceeded to 0!
This is not victory for those of us who operate in the Free World!
SCO was only a pawn of the BSA, Microsoft, & Steve Balmer. Microsoft illegally pumped millions into SCO to create FUD about Linux. The slander that SCO engaged in on the orders of Microsoft has done trillions of dollars in damage to everyone in the free world.
With SCO's delisting, we can say that after losing many key pieces, we are in a good position to maybe take one of Microsoft's pawns.
This is not a victory!
A victory would be Microsoft delisted, Microsoft's assets seized, and Steve Balmer in prison for life without parole for racketeering.
Until the BSA member companies are all gone, along with everyone else who has ever attacked FOSS software as illegal, we are at war. This is a war of extermination. The BSA, together with its' member companies, and all their employees and stock holders and investors continue to claim that FOSS software is illegal. The only way we, in the Free World, can exist is to exterminate the BSA together with its' member companies, and all their employees and stock holders and investors.
Here are some hints on how to proceed:
1. Almost all EULAs are illegal since, when read, they are clearly "unconscionable contracts."
2. Anyone who says anything negative and blatantly false about FOSS (e.g., that the GPL is unenforceable) has slandered everyone in the Free World. Use small claims court to go after them, and have 5 friends do the same.
3. Hit their stock holders & employees.
4. Question the continued employment of anyone who agrees to a license agreement that say Microsoft can view, edit, or delete anything they want to on your employer's computer.
Andy Out!
I have been following this story from the beginning, how nice that they will get axed from the NASDAQ on my birthday.
Dear friend, I am the wife of Mr. Tibbitts. As SCO was being viciously sued into non-existence due to false accusations made against SCO, my husband liberated money from the sco bank account and transferred it to a Nigerian bank account (last digits 419). I seek your help to repatriate these funds of $50,000,000 (fifty million dollars) and will give you 30% as a thank you....
Keep in mind that Novell isn't in exactly the same boat as the other SCO creditors. Novell is claiming that SCO breached it's fiduciary duty and converted (i.e., stole) money that belonged to Novell. As a result, any money SCO has isn't SCO's money at all, but stolen goods. Expect Novell to argue that it would be inappropriate for SCO to be allowed to use Novell's money to finance SCO's reorganization.
===== Murphy's Law is recursive. =====
Here are the top owners of SCOX stock as of last June 30. Idiots!
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=SCOX
I guess there must be some openings for Portfolio Managers in those firms...
Domain Name: PURDUE.EDU
Registrant:
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Administrative Contact:
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Technical Contact:
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Purdue University
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Name Servers:
NS.PURDUE.EDU 128.210.11.5
NS1.RICE.EDU
PENDRAGON.CS.PURDUE.EDU 128.10.2.5
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Domain record activated: 24-Apr-1985
Domain record last updated: 11-Dec-2006
Domain expires: 31-Jul-2008
What ? Me, worry ?
I'll give you 1000 to 1 that SCO doesn't.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Maxwell Smart.
Let's put a picture on SCO.com of Darl's head on a spike, as a reminder to the next ten generations that some favors come at too high a price.
Then we can walk by and wave like this! *wiggles fingers*
If we're low on cash we can just photoshop his head onto the spike.
I respond to your sigs
Yeah. It sounds ridiculous to even entertain the thought that this might happen; but then the SCO lawsuit itself was pretty ridiculous, too, and that didn't seem to deter SCO.
How much do you want to be that, when the time comes, Daniel Lyons will write, "Aha! *This* time I'm positive that Linux stole Unix code!"
404555974007725459910684486621289147856453481154 in hex is "You sank my Battleship?"
[GPG key in journal]
Maybe it's like all those commercials for laundry/dish-washing detergent, where the advertised product is favorably compared to "The Leading Brand" (TM), never mind that the products in those commercials are themselves generally the best-known brands in their category (or at least, in the top two or three).
As in soap, so in unix: perhaps there needs to be a "Leading Brand" for all the others to be better than.
David Gould
main(i){putchar(340056100>>(i-1)*5&31|!!(i<6)<< 6)&&main(++i);}
You didn't only lose that money. You also violated the terms of your loan, that require you to use the money only for educational expenses.
Are you adequate?
(Laughing Maniacally)
and top it with cement
SARAVA!