Bracheosaurus. They're called the bracheosaurus. "Brontosaurus" was the name given to a fossil found later than the initial bracheosaurus findings that someone thought was a separate species, but in the end was not.
Mods, don't mod him flamebait for debating this. He hasn't trolled so far.
The property they abandoned for nearly 2000 years?
In my town, any property abandoned for 5 years reverts to the community. It wasn't abandoned. We made numerous attempts to reclaim it, all of which were brutally put down. It's not "abandonment" if the latest two-bit empire decides to slaughter any Jews making for the Holy Land.
The War of Israeli Independence in 1948 wasn't the first time we tried to regain the Land of Israel, it was the first one that worked.
Besides, it's not as if you didn't have Jews living there all those 2000 years.
And I'm afraid that you are, indeed, a victim. You see, the reason why you learn geometric proofs and calculus proofs is to assist with developing problem-solving skills that require an individual to reason a problem from start to finish, much like real life. It scares me that you claim, as an engineer, that all you need to know are the rote mechanics of math (and yes, that is what you describe: number crunching as opposed to critical problem analysis). Except that he could just as easily learn problem-solving skills from doings proofs of convergence/divergence for series, or demonstrating a proof for an important theorem.
Problem-solving skills can come from any kind of mathematics, it doesn't require that oen particular thing or the other be in the curriculum.
The opposite, really. A lot of "advanced calculus", specifically advanced integral calculus, involves a lot of blind pattern-matching and computation. IMHO, that stuff is really better done by the use of reference tables for common cases and computer algebra systems for the less common.
Could you please explain that to me? My high school never taught me a method for finding the pattern/function to an arbitrary sequence of numbers other than "guess & check".
If your job is in the Boston, New York City or San-Francisco Bay areas, those salaries aren't exactly upper-middle class. Also, check the working hours.
Now that the market is picking back up, we're seeing a resurgence in CS program enrollment, but many people drop out fairly quickly. Why? I've seen many of my peers go this way, and here's a basic demographics breakdown from what I can observe. Was it CS enrollment or graduation that hit an all-time low in 2007? I've forgotten.
Anyway, I honestly hope what you say is true. Having been hard-core into programming since middle school and being utterly enamored to CS now, it would be just lovely if there's still really good money for someone like me.
Lots of other conferences have more and more Israeli attendance nowadays. I remember seeing a poster in our CS department detailing a conference to which more Israelis were going than people from our (American) department. You could tell because two people from HUJ and one from Technion were on the steering committee.
Though while I'm in college, I haven't actually found any $FOO scholarships for $FOO == "Jewish in a technological field", or even just $FOO == "Jewish in general". It's a really stupid thing that probably drives thousands of young American Jews away from being "actively" Jewish, but apparently as far as organized American Jewishness is concerned, the only kind of Jew that deserves a scholarship is the kind in Judaic Studies or Yeshivah. The notion that we might have to emphasize science if we want to maintain our overrepresentation in All Good Things apparently hasn't occurred to these people.
First of all, I'd gladly take a transfer to Berkeley. The sole reason I ended up not applying to Berkeley and/or Stanford as reach schools last year (I'm a rising college sophomore in CS) is that they have larger applications than other schools (including CMU, MIT and Cornell) that needed to be completed a month or two earlier than those for other schools. East Coast schools took the Common Application with an early-January deadline. Berkeley and Stanford take custom, extended applications with, respectively, November and early December deadlines.
I dare say that, just besides booting all the foreigners from Berkeley, the whole UC system is designed to keep non-Californians out. Should I actually win transfer admission (should I put Berkeley on my transfer-application list*), I'd have to pay tuition comparable to that at Harvard or MIT, but without the Harvard or MIT endowments to sponsor scholarships. Being an Ashkenazi Jewish male doesn't help me win scholarships to any subject other than Jewish Studies, either (because we count as white and male to anyone other than a Judaic Studies department, useless bastards).
The whole thing's kind of stupid. Back East we don't expect public schools to be the best, but out on the West Coast they generally are the oldest and most prestigious universities.
* -- I probably won't apply to Berkeley, and not just because of the Californian government's xenophobia. My current school (UMass Amherst) isn't actually at all that bad (it was great considering my shit performance in freshman and sophomore years of high school), but I've had an itch to live somewhere genuinely urban for years now. So I'm just going to apply for transfer to any university ranked higher than UMass for its CS research (UMass is #20 at the moment) and located in a real city. So the current list includes: MIT (Cambridge-Boston), UWashington (Seattle), UTexas at Austin (Austin), and Princeton (if Princeton, NJ has train/bus access to NYC).
Now that I think of it, would you describe Berkeley as a Real City? This kind of thing doesn't just matter for amusement purposes, it's a lot easier to find co-ops and internships when you're in a city that the company can actually send recruiters/interviewers to, ideally from a local office.
Unless they are engineering weapons, our country doesn't put any value in the fields of technology and science; at least nothing relatively impressive compared to all the wasteful spending on killing crap. The appreciation and pay for these fields are weak and the lawlessness of corporate America only exacerbates the divide. This is so incredibly true that my current plan for starting a good career after college (especially since I *WANT* to work in academic research or corporate R&D) is to make aliyah and work in the Israeli tech sector.
Hello American brain-drain! Hello collapse of American civilization!
Damnit, thanks for reminding me of my father's failure as a dad!
Since he started moving around so much for his work we've never finished the model airplane we started ~6 years ago. I've got the equipment and materials we bought in my closet... I just don't have a workshop to build in or the expertise my father has with wood and metal things.
No, every effort to stop illegal immigration over the Mexican border has failed because the politicians don't want to actually effectively attack the problem by throwing the heads of any company that hires illegals in jail. The oceans on either side of us and First-World Canada in the north do in fact present barriers to immigration. It's *hard* to sneak an illegal immigrant through customs at an American international airport.
But if you think there's been no economic collapse, look at salaries in programming (where H1-B labor gets used to keep wages low) or crop-picking (where illegal labor is used for the same purpose). The wages are so low that few to no Americans want to enter these professions anymore, and the wages are so low because companies use immigrants to keep them that way. Where non-selective-for-skill immigrant labor is employed, wages collapse. Workers in such fields are now forced to live like students at best, though students usually expect such a standard of living from part-time rather than full-time work.
Mind you, I'm not anti-immigration. I'm anti-stupid-immigration. Being selective enough (and having good enough living again... *sigh*) to brain-drain the rest of the world again sounds like a great idea to me!
schools like UC Berkeley will accept a foreign student over a California Citizen for any number of reasons, while failing to acknowledge that every single person in California deserves the right to admittance and education before ANY FOREIGN student. And I find it absolutely appalling that UC Berkeley in particular, one of the top research institutions in the country, so restricts its admissions to California citizens. I'm not a foreigner, I'm born-and-bred American. I just wasn't "fortunate" enough to graduate high school in California, so if I wanted to attend the cheapest of the #1 institutions in my field (Computer Science,), I wouldn't just have to pay some of the highest out-of-state tuition in the country, I would have to jump through a circus's worth of fucking hoops just to win acceptance.
People claim not enough students are taking certain subjects, well maybe it would help if I had an equal chance of getting into the best schools regardless of where in the country I happen to live.
We need more engineers and doctors in America, so why is it that over 50% of our engineering or physics graduate students are not citizens? Honestly? Because since even before all those foreigners were brought in, an American career scientist has been underpaid, overworked, and overly indebted compared to an American just as intelligent and hard-working who went into another profession. At this point, only immigrants go to grad school because grad school only makes economic sense for immigrants. The few Americans in grad school for science are the ones who so love their field that they'll kill their own career for it.
Second i'm shocked that any highly skilled and educated people are even going to the USA, It's certainly far fewer than the huge numbers that are leaving the USA to escape the repression of the 'patriot' act and the destruction of the US Constitution. Can you show any evidence of a large-scale emigration or expatriation from the United States in the past 8-10 years?
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Not really, that's just the Japanese. They always had certain hive-mind tendencies.
Yes it was, and the first "Dune" trilogy comes directly between the two.
That's because most Slashdotters' skin turns to ash when exposed to sunlight.
Bracheosaurus. They're called the bracheosaurus. "Brontosaurus" was the name given to a fossil found later than the initial bracheosaurus findings that someone thought was a separate species, but in the end was not.
In my town, any property abandoned for 5 years reverts to the community. It wasn't abandoned. We made numerous attempts to reclaim it, all of which were brutally put down. It's not "abandonment" if the latest two-bit empire decides to slaughter any Jews making for the Holy Land.
The War of Israeli Independence in 1948 wasn't the first time we tried to regain the Land of Israel, it was the first one that worked.
Besides, it's not as if you didn't have Jews living there all those 2000 years.
Black September is a band? And here I thought it was a massacre!
Hey, it wasn't that bad. I mean, I didn't feel any urge to gouge out my eyes with a dull spoon!
Except that would require the sheeple getting over their fear of nuclear power.
Land thieves and murderers? But killing in self-defense is not murder, and how can someone steal their own property?
I'm still not seeing why c=b-(a-b), how that derives from "when Mary was as old as Jane is now."
This most likely explains why I didn't get a better Calc 2 grade last semester.
Problem-solving skills can come from any kind of mathematics, it doesn't require that oen particular thing or the other be in the curriculum.
Blessed be your name for finally having the balls to say that taking out trig identities and substitutions wouldn't turn our engineers into pussies!
And that's not just because not having to learn trig integrals would have made my Calc 2 grade a full letter higher.
Ah. I thought the whole x(n) = ... thing was part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
The opposite, really. A lot of "advanced calculus", specifically advanced integral calculus, involves a lot of blind pattern-matching and computation. IMHO, that stuff is really better done by the use of reference tables for common cases and computer algebra systems for the less common.
j2 = m1
m2 = 2*j1
Am I just bloody-stupid, or how do you do that?
Nice pun in the user name, btw: saying the same thing twice in a way that nobody will recognize.
Could you please explain that to me? My high school never taught me a method for finding the pattern/function to an arbitrary sequence of numbers other than "guess & check".
If your job is in the Boston, New York City or San-Francisco Bay areas, those salaries aren't exactly upper-middle class. Also, check the working hours.
But other than that, carry on.
Anyway, I honestly hope what you say is true. Having been hard-core into programming since middle school and being utterly enamored to CS now, it would be just lovely if there's still really good money for someone like me.
Lots of other conferences have more and more Israeli attendance nowadays. I remember seeing a poster in our CS department detailing a conference to which more Israelis were going than people from our (American) department. You could tell because two people from HUJ and one from Technion were on the steering committee.
Though while I'm in college, I haven't actually found any $FOO scholarships for $FOO == "Jewish in a technological field", or even just $FOO == "Jewish in general". It's a really stupid thing that probably drives thousands of young American Jews away from being "actively" Jewish, but apparently as far as organized American Jewishness is concerned, the only kind of Jew that deserves a scholarship is the kind in Judaic Studies or Yeshivah. The notion that we might have to emphasize science if we want to maintain our overrepresentation in All Good Things apparently hasn't occurred to these people.
I dare say that, just besides booting all the foreigners from Berkeley, the whole UC system is designed to keep non-Californians out. Should I actually win transfer admission (should I put Berkeley on my transfer-application list*), I'd have to pay tuition comparable to that at Harvard or MIT, but without the Harvard or MIT endowments to sponsor scholarships. Being an Ashkenazi Jewish male doesn't help me win scholarships to any subject other than Jewish Studies, either (because we count as white and male to anyone other than a Judaic Studies department, useless bastards).
The whole thing's kind of stupid. Back East we don't expect public schools to be the best, but out on the West Coast they generally are the oldest and most prestigious universities.
* -- I probably won't apply to Berkeley, and not just because of the Californian government's xenophobia. My current school (UMass Amherst) isn't actually at all that bad (it was great considering my shit performance in freshman and sophomore years of high school), but I've had an itch to live somewhere genuinely urban for years now. So I'm just going to apply for transfer to any university ranked higher than UMass for its CS research (UMass is #20 at the moment) and located in a real city. So the current list includes: MIT (Cambridge-Boston), UWashington (Seattle), UTexas at Austin (Austin), and Princeton (if Princeton, NJ has train/bus access to NYC).
Now that I think of it, would you describe Berkeley as a Real City? This kind of thing doesn't just matter for amusement purposes, it's a lot easier to find co-ops and internships when you're in a city that the company can actually send recruiters/interviewers to, ideally from a local office. Unless they are engineering weapons, our country doesn't put any value in the fields of technology and science; at least nothing relatively impressive compared to all the wasteful spending on killing crap. The appreciation and pay for these fields are weak and the lawlessness of corporate America only exacerbates the divide. This is so incredibly true that my current plan for starting a good career after college (especially since I *WANT* to work in academic research or corporate R&D) is to make aliyah and work in the Israeli tech sector.
Hello American brain-drain! Hello collapse of American civilization!
Damnit, thanks for reminding me of my father's failure as a dad!
Since he started moving around so much for his work we've never finished the model airplane we started ~6 years ago. I've got the equipment and materials we bought in my closet... I just don't have a workshop to build in or the expertise my father has with wood and metal things.
No, every effort to stop illegal immigration over the Mexican border has failed because the politicians don't want to actually effectively attack the problem by throwing the heads of any company that hires illegals in jail. The oceans on either side of us and First-World Canada in the north do in fact present barriers to immigration. It's *hard* to sneak an illegal immigrant through customs at an American international airport.
But if you think there's been no economic collapse, look at salaries in programming (where H1-B labor gets used to keep wages low) or crop-picking (where illegal labor is used for the same purpose). The wages are so low that few to no Americans want to enter these professions anymore, and the wages are so low because companies use immigrants to keep them that way. Where non-selective-for-skill immigrant labor is employed, wages collapse. Workers in such fields are now forced to live like students at best, though students usually expect such a standard of living from part-time rather than full-time work.
Mind you, I'm not anti-immigration. I'm anti-stupid-immigration. Being selective enough (and having good enough living again... *sigh*) to brain-drain the rest of the world again sounds like a great idea to me!
People claim not enough students are taking certain subjects, well maybe it would help if I had an equal chance of getting into the best schools regardless of where in the country I happen to live. We need more engineers and doctors in America, so why is it that over 50% of our engineering or physics graduate students are not citizens? Honestly? Because since even before all those foreigners were brought in, an American career scientist has been underpaid, overworked, and overly indebted compared to an American just as intelligent and hard-working who went into another profession. At this point, only immigrants go to grad school because grad school only makes economic sense for immigrants. The few Americans in grad school for science are the ones who so love their field that they'll kill their own career for it.