No way can you convince me that Window's had anything before 3.5!
No seriously, I used 3.0, 3.1 and even 3.11 (for Workgroups) and had no idea what 3.5 was at the time but to this day I still love the fact that when you go deep enough on any version of Windows Server you find something that still looks a lot like it did in 4.0.
Other than finally offering console only (Server Core) the UI for Windows Server could have remained at the Windows 2000 level and I would have been happy. Just the UI, I do like the actual improvements made under the hood and the introduction of new server technology but the UI was fine, why mess with it?
(mumbles something about lawns, shaking his head as he wanders off...)
Why not use older hardware? Is it really so hard to find an old IBM think center or Dell computer that still has IDE, etc.? We have a few at work that I keep around because I keep telling myself that one day I will have time to throw an old Slack distro on them or Windows 3/3.5 and show the kids what it was like "in my day!"
I didn't fall for anything. I was using an extreme example of research being done in other countries to push the boundaries of bandwidth. I know she is not typical and I too found the laundry thing amusing along with the rest of/.
My point is that most of the developed world continues to improve their internet infrastructure while the vultures in our country continue to fight over the week infrastructure we've built here and how they can squeeze even more money out of it without doing anything to improve it.
First time I saw it was also on a Sun. Lowly kids like me (data entry clerk) had to use DOS on the job but the cool guys (engineers) had Sun workstations running WABI*. I was blown away by how much more advanced their stuff was than what we were stuck with. First time actually using it was when I finally managed to get Slackware installed along side Windows 95.
I realize that's not typical, but it does illustrate what other nations are doing to continually increase their capabilities. Faster, no caps and lack of monopolies seem to be the norm for all developed nations except than the US.
Oh, that's your solution? "You don't like Amerrika, git out"!
Thanks AC, it's so obvious. We shouldn't focus on making our country better, as long as it's better than the worst shit holes in the world we're doing fine. And if you don't think so, don't bother, just move somewhere else.
Not to mention the fact that Democrats get just as much money from Telcos/Cable Companies as Republicans. This is just hand waving and PR. If every member of the house was currently a Democrat I still don't think this would pass.
Why not? Now they can say they took steps to protect their trademark and they get free advertising from the guy. And they make their own lawyers happy by enforcing the non-commercial aspect. Other than the negative press they are getting at the moment for going after the "little guy" in the long term they make out OK.
Of course the above shows me forgetting that ikea is right in the domain name so maybe he doesn't have a lot of choices with regards to "re-branding" it...
While it does seem like they were kind of thuggish about it I can sort of understand IKEA's position. He's using their trademarks and name without much mention of the fact it's not an official site and while it looks like it's a neat DIY type of site it is also covered in ads. The explanation offered in the article is reasonable but he calls himself naive for not seeing this coming so he does seem to understand what he's doing wrong.
I see him having two options; 1) comply and take down all the advertising plus put up a clear disclaimer that he's not affiliated with IKEA or 2) radically change the site to remove all mention of IKEA and their trademarks.
1 seems like a better option for his community while 2 would be better for him, if he can keep his community going despite downplaying IKEA as an important aspect of it, e.g. just make it about furniture in general.
While I can respect IKEA's stance I wish they could have done more to work with him, seems to me he's providing free advertising and a fair bit of fan excitement about their products. If they could set some reasonable guidelines on what they expect from a fan site I'm sure he guy would have complied...
Well 3 x $25 = $75. At that price I still agree with the PP, I'd pay it just to see what Firefox OS is like. It would have to be over two hundred before I'd decide it wasn't worth it.
Well no, not exactly. I didn't word it very well but when I said "overruled by another Federal Court" I meant that another circuit can decide differently. And sometimes they do; but they need to provide a new decision and explain why their interpretation is more correct than what they are overriding. And overriding previous precedence isn't something other Federal circuits do lightly so unless they are willing to do so this is binding on future cases similar to this one.
It's only once one circuit disagrees that this needs to be appealed upwards, until than all Federal Circuits will look to this decision when making similar decisions.
But, hey, I'm just interested in civics, IANAL, so if I'm just splitting hairs here, my apologies.
Um, no. It's a Federal Court and sets precedence, that is unless overruled in the future by another Federal Court, that is binding in other cases similar to this one. As another poster pointed out it will probably make its way to the Supreme Court and could change from there. In the meantime this applies to the whole country.
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You hate everything AC! That's why we love you.
No way can you convince me that Window's had anything before 3.5!
No seriously, I used 3.0, 3.1 and even 3.11 (for Workgroups) and had no idea what 3.5 was at the time but to this day I still love the fact that when you go deep enough on any version of Windows Server you find something that still looks a lot like it did in 4.0.
Other than finally offering console only (Server Core) the UI for Windows Server could have remained at the Windows 2000 level and I would have been happy. Just the UI, I do like the actual improvements made under the hood and the introduction of new server technology but the UI was fine, why mess with it?
(mumbles something about lawns, shaking his head as he wanders off...)
Wait, is that a global warming joke?
Yeah, I see your point. I guess thirteen years might as well be a century in the computer industry!
Why not use older hardware? Is it really so hard to find an old IBM think center or Dell computer that still has IDE, etc.? We have a few at work that I keep around because I keep telling myself that one day I will have time to throw an old Slack distro on them or Windows 3/3.5 and show the kids what it was like "in my day!"
A quick google turned up this: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/3...
But I only quickly looked at it, I am not recommending it or anything...
OK, no, not sure about the PP but, sure, I don't know what CC is. Can you explain it to me like I'm five?
Because my first thought about the PP is that was probably a decent, cost effective idea.
I didn't fall for anything. I was using an extreme example of research being done in other countries to push the boundaries of bandwidth. I know she is not typical and I too found the laundry thing amusing along with the rest of /.
My point is that most of the developed world continues to improve their internet infrastructure while the vultures in our country continue to fight over the week infrastructure we've built here and how they can squeeze even more money out of it without doing anything to improve it.
First time I saw it was also on a Sun. Lowly kids like me (data entry clerk) had to use DOS on the job but the cool guys (engineers) had Sun workstations running WABI*. I was blown away by how much more advanced their stuff was than what we were stuck with. First time actually using it was when I finally managed to get Slackware installed along side Windows 95.
* Sun's Windows Application Binary Interface which allowed a full blown Windows 3.1 installation to run on their "desktop".
Yes, some grandmother does.
I realize that's not typical, but it does illustrate what other nations are doing to continually increase their capabilities. Faster, no caps and lack of monopolies seem to be the norm for all developed nations except than the US.
Oh, that's your solution? "You don't like Amerrika, git out"!
Thanks AC, it's so obvious. We shouldn't focus on making our country better, as long as it's better than the worst shit holes in the world we're doing fine. And if you don't think so, don't bother, just move somewhere else.
I wasn't talking about caps.
It took 18 years for them to figure this out? Whiles some grandmother in Sweden had 40 GB back in 2007?
When can I get mine? And can I choose from more than one provider? And, most importantly, will I really get 40 GB?
Yes, certainly a possibility. And again it would be both sides of the aisle that would be responsible!
Not to mention the fact that Democrats get just as much money from Telcos/Cable Companies as Republicans. This is just hand waving and PR. If every member of the house was currently a Democrat I still don't think this would pass.
Why not? Now they can say they took steps to protect their trademark and they get free advertising from the guy. And they make their own lawyers happy by enforcing the non-commercial aspect. Other than the negative press they are getting at the moment for going after the "little guy" in the long term they make out OK.
Of course the above shows me forgetting that ikea is right in the domain name so maybe he doesn't have a lot of choices with regards to "re-branding" it...
While it does seem like they were kind of thuggish about it I can sort of understand IKEA's position. He's using their trademarks and name without much mention of the fact it's not an official site and while it looks like it's a neat DIY type of site it is also covered in ads. The explanation offered in the article is reasonable but he calls himself naive for not seeing this coming so he does seem to understand what he's doing wrong.
I see him having two options; 1) comply and take down all the advertising plus put up a clear disclaimer that he's not affiliated with IKEA or 2) radically change the site to remove all mention of IKEA and their trademarks.
1 seems like a better option for his community while 2 would be better for him, if he can keep his community going despite downplaying IKEA as an important aspect of it, e.g. just make it about furniture in general.
While I can respect IKEA's stance I wish they could have done more to work with him, seems to me he's providing free advertising and a fair bit of fan excitement about their products. If they could set some reasonable guidelines on what they expect from a fan site I'm sure he guy would have complied...
Captain Picard? He's my favorite captain! It's Captain Picard, right?
I've already patented the alphabet (lower and upper case!) so please redirect your payments to
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I'll give you $0.0003 for every $0.0060 you collect.
Well 3 x $25 = $75. At that price I still agree with the PP, I'd pay it just to see what Firefox OS is like.
It would have to be over two hundred before I'd decide it wasn't worth it.
Fair enough, thanks for the clarification...
Well no, not exactly. I didn't word it very well but when I said "overruled by another Federal Court" I meant that another circuit can decide differently. And sometimes they do; but they need to provide a new decision and explain why their interpretation is more correct than what they are overriding. And overriding previous precedence isn't something other Federal circuits do lightly so unless they are willing to do so this is binding on future cases similar to this one.
It's only once one circuit disagrees that this needs to be appealed upwards, until than all Federal Circuits will look to this decision when making similar decisions.
But, hey, I'm just interested in civics, IANAL, so if I'm just splitting hairs here, my apologies.
That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with. Careful not to get any on you, nerd.
Um, no. It's a Federal Court and sets precedence, that is unless overruled in the future by another Federal Court, that is binding in other cases similar to this one. As another poster pointed out it will probably make its way to the Supreme Court and could change from there. In the meantime this applies to the whole country.
You again? How about no one has typically had to use such techniques on a search engine since the '90s. Or are you still using AltaVista?