If you have to load gtk in KDE than you'll slow down, and if you have to load Qt in Gnome you'll have a slowdown.
Eh, this is really only situationally true. If you have a ton of free memory it doesn't really matter. It is true, and can be very annoying, for those of us that don't have massive resources to waste, however.
What OS are you using?
I've noticed enormous differences between the KDE and GNOME versions bundled by different vendors, for instance I remember at one point neither were usable at all on my machine running RedHat, yet when I installed Slackware they worked fine. Turned out Redhat, at the time, was compiling the libraries with debugging symbols, which increased the memory usage drastically. Hopefully, no one's made that mistake in some years now, but I don't know, not like I use them all on a daily basis or anything. And less drastic differences in how they're compiled, configured, and packaged can still cause significant differences in performance.
First, the article does actually say they're making it free, which would mean that it's now OSS were it true. But clearly, it's not, and any of us that know MS know at a glance that the blurb is wrong. The word there, btw, should not be *free* but *gratis*.
Second, the poster you're replying to was clearly NOT talking about the virtual server mushware at all, he was talking about the filesystem from vmware, which IS free!
Yeah. I saw the writeup and nearly went into shock. Went and did the minor ten seconds of fact-checking the editor should have done before posting this, and realised there's no need. It's not free software. It's not even software. It's mushware that's effectively part of another mushware product you have to buy, so it's not even freeware, really. Just a marketing scam.
The trouble with dictionaries these days is they've completely abdicated their responsibility and gone to a role of simply reflecting usage. So when a word is often misused, the misuse winds up being legitimised by the dictionary entries. Thus, they've really made themselves irrelevant, for the most part.
Re:Yet Again, the BSDs get Snubbed
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Well, it's an oversimplification.
OpenBSD definitely shows an emphasis on correctness over features.
FreeBSD and NetBSD have different goals.
That said, all three of them are wonderful projects. It's the licensing, not the professionalism or code quality or any other technical concern, that keeps them from being competitive with linux for mindshare.
Which is why it is sensible for Linux to behave more like Windows (KDE), or more like OS X (Gnome) - because with greater familiarity will come greater uptake.
This just can't be left alone. It's so very wrong.
KDE will do a decent imitation of windows or mac, or it can even be configured to act more or less like a proper Unix gui as well.
Gnome is mac-and-windows-like in that it refuses to allow the user any choice, but other than that it's no more mac-like than KDE set to mac-like behaviour.
Apple maintains their own fork of webkit. Code is often contributed back to the KDE team, but is often not directly usable by them, as the Apple fork is significantly different in places. At least that was the situation a couple months back.
Who says the anti-Hate laws in Canada are immoral?
A lot of us are saying it, loud and clear. You just don't want to listen. Which is fine, you have a right not to listen. But we still have a right to say it, regardless of how that makes you feel.
Free speech isn't cut and dried
Yes, actually, it is. You just don't understand it, or don't agree with it, but that's your problem.
Your supposed freedom from people saying things you don't like is contradictory, unworkable, and not a part of human rights at all. If it were, then you would have to erase your post here, and be forbidden from ever repeating this sort of talk, as I find it hateful and offensive.
Real rights are absolutes, they cannot conflict with each other, and they don't depend on feelings to determine where one ends and the next begins. Perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject a bit.
Starforce really illustrates what many of have been saying for years - when you come up with a 'copy protection' system that's enough of a PITA to slow down the pirates even a little, it'll also be enough of a PITA to drive your customers off. Little surprise that they would resort to such tactics, really - every time a game comes out with Starforce, a certain percentage of buyers are screwed hard enough they will boycott it. Not fun when you pay good money for a game you never get to play...
The really funny thing is these same folks that are shocked and outraged that a google tool is doing exactly what it says it does, because of data-security concerns (and I'm not discounting them, I'd be worried about this too, and probably have to ban the tool as well, but bear with me)... these same people see no problem with the MS EULA and put all that data in MS' hands already!
You throw out a lot of specs there, but you skip the ones that would actually help diagnose your situation. What videocard, what drivers?
Then you draw the conclusion "using X on an old PC is a big no-no" - it's not warranted. If that machine with run W2k usably, it has FAR more power than it needs for a decent X setup - assuming a decently supported video card. Now, if you have a vidcard that doesn't have any decent X drivers available... then your experience would make sense. I'd bet that's exactly what's going on.
What exactly do you consider a CLI file manager? If you mean strictly working at the command line, I suppose that's true, but if you just mean no GUI Environment, strictly text mode, there's no problem. Xtree, MC and the like are far better file managers than anything I've ever seen running under X, Windows, etc.
I am not saying the HTML and images should not be used in email.
Well I am. It's not a valid format for an email, email apps should absolutely refuse to send it or render it, and mail servers should send it to/dev/null immediately.
Other than that, I agree with you.
Re:GNOME's audio backend GStreamer to use DRM
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Indeed, GNOME has been seriously compromised. Personally I quit using anything GTK related after the fiasco known as GTK2. I really used to like GNOME too, it's sad to see what's become of it.
Hmm, I can spend half an hour writing a command line to string together the commands I need to do a task, then let the computer process the task until it's done while I do other work... or I can sit there all day clicking and dragging to do the same thing. Frankly, I'd much rather use the command line.
Just what is the command line not suited for?
Drawing, photo retouching.... anything else?
Re:GNOME's audio backend GStreamer to use DRM
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Yeah, thank god that you can't develop a closed-source Qt app without paying Trolltech. We wouldn't want to encourage people to write commercial applications that interoperate wiht the rest of the desktop!
Trolltech were nice enough to pay top notch developers to write and constantly improve QT, and open that up for use in Free Software, and all they ask is that if you use it in non-free software, you send them a tiny licensing fee. How is that unreasonable?
So let me get this straight. Many decades ago, a revolution overthrew the Shah, and in the process the embassy of the country that had put that dictator in power over the country was seized, hostages taken... and that fact somehow shows that Iran today is unstable?
I don't follow that at all.
Its an unwritten rule in diplomacy but, you don't outright say you want your neighbor wiped off the map.
Another similar rule is that you don't openly interfere in other countries internal affairs. So if this shows that Iran is 'unstable' how much moreso must the US be 'unstable' right now?
Thats like going into a police station and saying 'I want to fucking kill my neighbor.'
I'd say it's more like saying 'I want Microsoft broken up' but whatever...
Knowingly and willfully assisting known terrorists?
They back anti-israeli resistance groups, sure. Sometimes those groups do thing that aren't exactly consistent with civilised warfare, absolutely. This is a bad thing? Yes, I definately would say it is. But show some sense of perspective. The IDF goes over the same lines regularly, the US spends billions supporting them, so again, your argument against Iran would work even better against the US. Manichæan rhetoric may make you feel good, but it only gets in the way of realistic foreign policy assessments.
Who said anything about the U.S. deciding who can have nukes?
You did.
The U.S. would probably let Cuba have nukes before they let Iran have them.
Turkey is the only one on your list that qualifies as a functioning Republic, and it's 'ally' status is questionable. Turkey is willing to play 'the enemy of my enemy' game with Israel, at times, but ally? get real. Turkey is nominally a US ally as well, however since Turkey refused to allow use of their airspace or land in any way in the invasion of Iraq, that relation is noticeably chilled as well. Jordan is a monarchy, Egypt is nominally a republic, but in practice it's a dictatorship, has been for a long time, and while the states involved do indeed have peace treaties with Israel that in no way contradicts the fact that the populace of each country would overwhelmingly endorse the proposition that Israel should be abolished, and these states are certainly NOT 'allies' of Israel. Lebanon... that's really out of left-field. A fragile state that's been effectively ruled by Syria and Israel for years, and France before that, and in no sense whatsoever an ally of Israel.
No, it's no myth that Israel has no friends in the ME, it's a fact.
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Eh, this is really only situationally true. If you have a ton of free memory it doesn't really matter. It is true, and can be very annoying, for those of us that don't have massive resources to waste, however.
This is a great idea. Which is exactly why the "unix sucks" crowd that runs GNOME would never coöperate, unfortunately.
What OS are you using? I've noticed enormous differences between the KDE and GNOME versions bundled by different vendors, for instance I remember at one point neither were usable at all on my machine running RedHat, yet when I installed Slackware they worked fine. Turned out Redhat, at the time, was compiling the libraries with debugging symbols, which increased the memory usage drastically. Hopefully, no one's made that mistake in some years now, but I don't know, not like I use them all on a daily basis or anything. And less drastic differences in how they're compiled, configured, and packaged can still cause significant differences in performance.
First, the article does actually say they're making it free, which would mean that it's now OSS were it true. But clearly, it's not, and any of us that know MS know at a glance that the blurb is wrong. The word there, btw, should not be *free* but *gratis*.
Second, the poster you're replying to was clearly NOT talking about the virtual server mushware at all, he was talking about the filesystem from vmware, which IS free!
Yeah. I saw the writeup and nearly went into shock. Went and did the minor ten seconds of fact-checking the editor should have done before posting this, and realised there's no need. It's not free software. It's not even software. It's mushware that's effectively part of another mushware product you have to buy, so it's not even freeware, really. Just a marketing scam.
The trouble with dictionaries these days is they've completely abdicated their responsibility and gone to a role of simply reflecting usage. So when a word is often misused, the misuse winds up being legitimised by the dictionary entries. Thus, they've really made themselves irrelevant, for the most part.
Well, it's an oversimplification.
OpenBSD definitely shows an emphasis on correctness over features.
FreeBSD and NetBSD have different goals.
That said, all three of them are wonderful projects. It's the licensing, not the professionalism or code quality or any other technical concern, that keeps them from being competitive with linux for mindshare.
This just can't be left alone. It's so very wrong.
KDE will do a decent imitation of windows or mac, or it can even be configured to act more or less like a proper Unix gui as well.
Gnome is mac-and-windows-like in that it refuses to allow the user any choice, but other than that it's no more mac-like than KDE set to mac-like behaviour.
Windowmaker seems to handle this very well.
Apple maintains their own fork of webkit. Code is often contributed back to the KDE team, but is often not directly usable by them, as the Apple fork is significantly different in places. At least that was the situation a couple months back.
Well said. Wish I could mod you up, that's a +5 insightful if ever there was one.
A lot of us are saying it, loud and clear. You just don't want to listen. Which is fine, you have a right not to listen. But we still have a right to say it, regardless of how that makes you feel.
Yes, actually, it is. You just don't understand it, or don't agree with it, but that's your problem.
Your supposed freedom from people saying things you don't like is contradictory, unworkable, and not a part of human rights at all. If it were, then you would have to erase your post here, and be forbidden from ever repeating this sort of talk, as I find it hateful and offensive.
Real rights are absolutes, they cannot conflict with each other, and they don't depend on feelings to determine where one ends and the next begins. Perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject a bit.
Umm no it doesn't.
What are you saying, that folks only have a right to speak as long as they don't own an ISP? Huh?
Starforce really illustrates what many of have been saying for years - when you come up with a 'copy protection' system that's enough of a PITA to slow down the pirates even a little, it'll also be enough of a PITA to drive your customers off. Little surprise that they would resort to such tactics, really - every time a game comes out with Starforce, a certain percentage of buyers are screwed hard enough they will boycott it. Not fun when you pay good money for a game you never get to play...
The really funny thing is these same folks that are shocked and outraged that a google tool is doing exactly what it says it does, because of data-security concerns (and I'm not discounting them, I'd be worried about this too, and probably have to ban the tool as well, but bear with me)... these same people see no problem with the MS EULA and put all that data in MS' hands already!
Haven't tried ROX, but thanks for the tip, it's going in my list of stuff to try the next time I have fiddle-time.
MC has some issues, though I'd still take it over explorer.exe any day. But unixtree is the bomb.
You throw out a lot of specs there, but you skip the ones that would actually help diagnose your situation. What videocard, what drivers?
Then you draw the conclusion "using X on an old PC is a big no-no" - it's not warranted. If that machine with run W2k usably, it has FAR more power than it needs for a decent X setup - assuming a decently supported video card. Now, if you have a vidcard that doesn't have any decent X drivers available... then your experience would make sense. I'd bet that's exactly what's going on.
What exactly do you consider a CLI file manager? If you mean strictly working at the command line, I suppose that's true, but if you just mean no GUI Environment, strictly text mode, there's no problem. Xtree, MC and the like are far better file managers than anything I've ever seen running under X, Windows, etc.
Well I am. It's not a valid format for an email, email apps should absolutely refuse to send it or render it, and mail servers should send it to /dev/null immediately.
Other than that, I agree with you.
Indeed, GNOME has been seriously compromised. Personally I quit using anything GTK related after the fiasco known as GTK2. I really used to like GNOME too, it's sad to see what's become of it.
Hmm, I can spend half an hour writing a command line to string together the commands I need to do a task, then let the computer process the task until it's done while I do other work... or I can sit there all day clicking and dragging to do the same thing. Frankly, I'd much rather use the command line.
Just what is the command line not suited for? Drawing, photo retouching.... anything else?
Trolltech were nice enough to pay top notch developers to write and constantly improve QT, and open that up for use in Free Software, and all they ask is that if you use it in non-free software, you send them a tiny licensing fee. How is that unreasonable?
So let me get this straight. Many decades ago, a revolution overthrew the Shah, and in the process the embassy of the country that had put that dictator in power over the country was seized, hostages taken... and that fact somehow shows that Iran today is unstable?
I don't follow that at all.
Another similar rule is that you don't openly interfere in other countries internal affairs. So if this shows that Iran is 'unstable' how much moreso must the US be 'unstable' right now?
I'd say it's more like saying 'I want Microsoft broken up' but whatever...
They back anti-israeli resistance groups, sure. Sometimes those groups do thing that aren't exactly consistent with civilised warfare, absolutely. This is a bad thing? Yes, I definately would say it is. But show some sense of perspective. The IDF goes over the same lines regularly, the US spends billions supporting them, so again, your argument against Iran would work even better against the US. Manichæan rhetoric may make you feel good, but it only gets in the way of realistic foreign policy assessments.
You did.
Turkey is the only one on your list that qualifies as a functioning Republic, and it's 'ally' status is questionable. Turkey is willing to play 'the enemy of my enemy' game with Israel, at times, but ally? get real. Turkey is nominally a US ally as well, however since Turkey refused to allow use of their airspace or land in any way in the invasion of Iraq, that relation is noticeably chilled as well. Jordan is a monarchy, Egypt is nominally a republic, but in practice it's a dictatorship, has been for a long time, and while the states involved do indeed have peace treaties with Israel that in no way contradicts the fact that the populace of each country would overwhelmingly endorse the proposition that Israel should be abolished, and these states are certainly NOT 'allies' of Israel. Lebanon... that's really out of left-field. A fragile state that's been effectively ruled by Syria and Israel for years, and France before that, and in no sense whatsoever an ally of Israel.
No, it's no myth that Israel has no friends in the ME, it's a fact.