The contributors that are scratching their own itch are one group - the users who dont code are another. The first is only serving the second in the sense of letting them have whatever is useful to them at no cost - which is significant - but they still go in the direction that suits them, fix what bothers them, leave unfixed what does not. Which is only fair - they are donating their time.
But many people use free software without actually being coders at the appropriate level to alter every piece of software they rely on. And their needs are not always met by the results of the coders scratching their own itches. Very often they would be happy to pay small fees to see the things that are more important to them addressed, and often there are enough of them that feel that way to pay a freelancer decently to do the work, at least in theory.
Hooking the two groups up effectively is hard though. This is the latest in a long series of attempts to do so. I am hoping it is successful.
Changing the passwords on the routers was part of his job. Handing the passwords over to the wrong person in violation of his contract would have gotten him screwed just as hard.
1/3rd would be a minority, and one (very friendly) source says 1/3rd go unanswered. Everyone else thinks the percentage is larger - by some reckonings a majority may actually go unanswered.
They are all absolutely awful. If I need depends|hair brush|glass cleaner etc. I will go look for it. A human being doing this would be intrusive and pushy, a machine doing it is 10 times worse.
My gut tells me that at least one thing they are missing in the mechanics is that these were aquatic animals. The inverse square law has always suggested strongly that it would be very dangerous for these things to try and walk on dry ground - and a broken leg would be fatal for them without exception. But they inhabited supertropical swampland areas and if they kept a good portion of their bulk in the water...
You might want to look up some history yourself. Mr Oswald worked in a factory after defecting to the USSR, before returning to the USA and ultimately eating those bullets.
Some savagery for sure, but the periods prior and proceeding from it were hardly perfect either. There were some good points to the period and some real progress.
"Your thinking is too limited. It's obvious that they enjoy being the subject of Congressional probes about their failures, with the added chance that the boss could be fired like just happened to two Marine generals fired for negligence in Afghanistan."
Look, I am not pinning all the blame for this on any one person. There is plenty to go around. I see right now the intelligence folks getting real upset with Obama and with due cause. He's being a weasel and trying to throw them under the bus.
Ultimately the scandalous shape of the intelligence agencies has been influenced by executives and legislatures that have wanted 'tough action' or 'do everything possible' or some such formulaic, political reaction without knowing the messy details, and a judiciary all too eager to bend the law to the will of the other two branches. There's plenty of blame to go around and when Obama tries to throw his subordinates under the bus they have every right to be a bit indignant.
"And if it turned out that the attack they didn't stop was one involving Black Plague that ended up killing tens of thousands of Americans, just think of the pride they would feel. "I didn't stop that!""
A black plague attack would be extremely unlikely to kill so many, unless it was accompanied by more conventional attacks that thoroughly knocked out health care facilities as well. It was truly deadly in the middle ages, but then again, quite often so was diarrhea back then - our medicine sucked.
But sure, you have a point. It's perceived as safer, in terms of job, for these people to violate millions of peoples constitutional rights than to have to admit at some point that it is impossible, in anything vaguely resembling a free country, to be absolute sure that bad things can never happen.
This infantile philosophy of government is the root of the problem, not the particular people who happen to be pursuing their career goals at the expense of their country at any given moment.
Interestingly I understand the chinese phrase for japanophile is a taiwanese coining. Slashdot mangles it horribly though.
At any rate, while the anti-independence people seem to use japanophile as something of a slur against pro-independence folk, I think it has limited validity. There are those that remember the period under japan as better days but from what I can see they are a pretty small minority, and most modern independence voters have rather different issues on their mind.
"In fact, the FISC ruled a similar, smaller scale program involving cables on U.S. territory illegal in 2011."
Exactly. The defenders of this nonsense want that little bit to get skipped and forgotten.
There is no question this is illegal, they dont even have a tiny fig leaf of being able to argue they thought it might be legal. It's illegal, even the FISA "court" refused to agree to this.
So they just did it anyway. Sounds to me like despite all the noise about 'oversight' adult supervision is exactly what has been missing.
I didnt say there were no benefits, or that I could not imagine them. I said the benefits are nowhere near worth the trade-off involved in a sloppy implementation, and I do not imagine it likely that anyone will produce anything else in the forseeable future.
It's actually a topic of controversy in the ROC today.
The ROC and the PRC, recall, were united for a time under Dr. Sun Yat Sen and they both claim the same territory as that original, united ROC claimed. That means both officially define Taiwan as a province of China, and themselves as the lawful government over all the provinces of China. This is not new.
But there is also a significant undercurrent of nativist and japanophile sentiment for independence in Taiwan, and not everyone agrees with that de jure interpretation. This faction is not new either and has actually become popular enough to control the government at least part of the time, so it's not hard to find officials asserting the very opposite. It's a very contentious issue. The apparent impossibility of liberating the PRC held territory, and a strong desire not to be absorbed by it, is probably a main cause of the increase in independence sentiment.
I dont live there and am not pretending to be an authority, just a sinophile sharing what I have observed.
"Software engineering is NRE. You do it once, and it applies to millions of units"
True in theory. In fact, software development as an industry is built around and focused on doing everything quick and dirty in the anticipation that the device will be obsoleted rather than supported. That sort of work is just not acceptable when you are talking about something where the consequences of bugs is so catastrophic.
And yes, there are some programmers that dont work like that, I am sure. With enough money, you could get a system like this done right - designed carefully, implemented precisely, mathematically proven. But I dont think YOU have any idea how expensive that would be. And it certainly wouldnt look anything like the system Toyota put together here.
"So software costs are neglible (plus, they have to write software for the engine control computer anyway; a few more lines to deal with the throttle isn't a big deal)."
This is exactly the sort of thinking I am talking about. This is the way the current software industry thinks. It's fine when you are dealing with angry birds or even office software. It's completely inappropriate in the control system of a vehicle that can kill dozens of people if it malfunctions.
In fact adding a few more lines to deal with the throttle is a huge deal if this is going to be done right, the whole system has to be validated again. In this case, the system was never validated in the first place!
I only hope they have to pay out enough money to teach them a lesson and prevent this from happening again. I fear it will instead be small enough that within 10 years every car will be done this way.
So you spend a little more on labor and a little less on parts. I know buyers are price-conscious but I doubt many would actually choose the reliability trade-off here.
A simple physical wire linkage is a mature and reliable method where very little can go wrong. Sticking an overpowered and under-programmed general purpose computer into the link is just asking for trouble. Not saying there would never be a good argument to go that route - there could be - but saving money is a lousy reason, not least because either the savings evaporates on software engineering costs, or you wind up killing people with bugs.
"I don't understand why everyone complains about the Firefox release cycle when it is nearly identical to the Chrome/Chromium release cycle."
We laughed at the Chrome brain damage and the fools that used it, secure in the knowledge at least our browser wasnt THAT stupid - and then it started doing the same thing. That's kind of it in a nutshell.
I do use ESR but I would be much happier with a fork going back to version 3 or earlier and maybe fixing some of the more annoying ancient bugs instead of trying to cram new features I dont need or want down my throat while breaking the UI repeatedly.
"Even then there are some that just don't have a way to re-enable. Like autocompleting URL bars that autocomplete entire URLs, and not just domains or partial URLs."
Or like the status bar. WTF was wrong with the status bar? If you didnt like it you could turn it off like all the other bars. They killed it all the way back @ firefox 4 (when the whole train seems to have gone off the tracks) and made it impossible for it to be fully reconstructed even through an extension. And, btw, that extension is now being reported as incompatible with Firefox 25.
So glad I am using ESR instead of latest Firefox right now. And still hoping someone with a brain will fork the project before the next rev...
It's not that great. He's credited with foreseeing the demise of the soviet union in the blurb, I have no idea how accurate that is, but it's no great feat as the libertarian/austrian thinkers did as well, but that would still be somewhat to his credit if he escaped the beltway groupthink enough to anticipate that. Otherwise he seems mostly to be focused on selling a much larger and more expensive military as necessary to win the future war he fantasizes about with China. Considering the size of the relative expenditures currently, his pitch of drastic increases in spending required in order to hold off a distant, relatively low tech enemy seem alarmist at best.
But what do I know, I have only read a few articles on him. Research him yourself and post what you find out.
I havent noticed any such slowness with slackware startup myself, so I suspect a misconfiguration, but nonetheless, even if that were the cost, having sensible human-readable startup scripts is well worth a couple extra minutes boot time to me anyway. Seriously, how often do you reboot a *nix box? No one really cares how long it takes to do that one-in-a-blue-moon reboot.
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The contributors that are scratching their own itch are one group - the users who dont code are another. The first is only serving the second in the sense of letting them have whatever is useful to them at no cost - which is significant - but they still go in the direction that suits them, fix what bothers them, leave unfixed what does not. Which is only fair - they are donating their time.
But many people use free software without actually being coders at the appropriate level to alter every piece of software they rely on. And their needs are not always met by the results of the coders scratching their own itches. Very often they would be happy to pay small fees to see the things that are more important to them addressed, and often there are enough of them that feel that way to pay a freelancer decently to do the work, at least in theory.
Hooking the two groups up effectively is hard though. This is the latest in a long series of attempts to do so. I am hoping it is successful.
Historically, no one was Muslim before approximately 600ad. So if that's your test then Arabs fail it just the same as Persians.
There is a difference between paying for a bugfix on software you already purchased once, and paying someone to fix something you get for free.
Changing the passwords on the routers was part of his job. Handing the passwords over to the wrong person in violation of his contract would have gotten him screwed just as hard.
1/3rd would be a minority, and one (very friendly) source says 1/3rd go unanswered. Everyone else thinks the percentage is larger - by some reckonings a majority may actually go unanswered.
Eh, C band would probably be better, he mentions reliability and weather issues. Ku/Ka band just doesnt cut through rain the way C band does.
They are all absolutely awful. If I need depends|hair brush|glass cleaner etc. I will go look for it. A human being doing this would be intrusive and pushy, a machine doing it is 10 times worse.
"Yeah it probably crossed their mind right before "but people will not accept that so we won't TELL THEM WE WILL do it".
FTFY. HAND.
My gut tells me that at least one thing they are missing in the mechanics is that these were aquatic animals. The inverse square law has always suggested strongly that it would be very dangerous for these things to try and walk on dry ground - and a broken leg would be fatal for them without exception. But they inhabited supertropical swampland areas and if they kept a good portion of their bulk in the water...
"You might want to look up your history a bit"
Irony detector overload.
You might want to look up some history yourself. Mr Oswald worked in a factory after defecting to the USSR, before returning to the USA and ultimately eating those bullets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule
Some savagery for sure, but the periods prior and proceeding from it were hardly perfect either. There were some good points to the period and some real progress.
"Your thinking is too limited. It's obvious that they enjoy being the subject of Congressional probes about their failures, with the added chance that the boss could be fired like just happened to two Marine generals fired for negligence in Afghanistan."
Look, I am not pinning all the blame for this on any one person. There is plenty to go around. I see right now the intelligence folks getting real upset with Obama and with due cause. He's being a weasel and trying to throw them under the bus.
Ultimately the scandalous shape of the intelligence agencies has been influenced by executives and legislatures that have wanted 'tough action' or 'do everything possible' or some such formulaic, political reaction without knowing the messy details, and a judiciary all too eager to bend the law to the will of the other two branches. There's plenty of blame to go around and when Obama tries to throw his subordinates under the bus they have every right to be a bit indignant.
"And if it turned out that the attack they didn't stop was one involving Black Plague that ended up killing tens of thousands of Americans, just think of the pride they would feel. "I didn't stop that!""
A black plague attack would be extremely unlikely to kill so many, unless it was accompanied by more conventional attacks that thoroughly knocked out health care facilities as well. It was truly deadly in the middle ages, but then again, quite often so was diarrhea back then - our medicine sucked.
But sure, you have a point. It's perceived as safer, in terms of job, for these people to violate millions of peoples constitutional rights than to have to admit at some point that it is impossible, in anything vaguely resembling a free country, to be absolute sure that bad things can never happen.
This infantile philosophy of government is the root of the problem, not the particular people who happen to be pursuing their career goals at the expense of their country at any given moment.
Interestingly I understand the chinese phrase for japanophile is a taiwanese coining. Slashdot mangles it horribly though.
At any rate, while the anti-independence people seem to use japanophile as something of a slur against pro-independence folk, I think it has limited validity. There are those that remember the period under japan as better days but from what I can see they are a pretty small minority, and most modern independence voters have rather different issues on their mind.
I have had employers ask for a facebook login. I have never had one question me when I answer 'lolno'.
Terrorists?
Why would they try to stop terrorists? The sooner there is another successful attack the sooner their budget gets doubled.
"In fact, the FISC ruled a similar, smaller scale program involving cables on U.S. territory illegal in 2011."
Exactly. The defenders of this nonsense want that little bit to get skipped and forgotten.
There is no question this is illegal, they dont even have a tiny fig leaf of being able to argue they thought it might be legal. It's illegal, even the FISA "court" refused to agree to this.
So they just did it anyway. Sounds to me like despite all the noise about 'oversight' adult supervision is exactly what has been missing.
I didnt say there were no benefits, or that I could not imagine them. I said the benefits are nowhere near worth the trade-off involved in a sloppy implementation, and I do not imagine it likely that anyone will produce anything else in the forseeable future.
It's actually a topic of controversy in the ROC today.
The ROC and the PRC, recall, were united for a time under Dr. Sun Yat Sen and they both claim the same territory as that original, united ROC claimed. That means both officially define Taiwan as a province of China, and themselves as the lawful government over all the provinces of China. This is not new.
But there is also a significant undercurrent of nativist and japanophile sentiment for independence in Taiwan, and not everyone agrees with that de jure interpretation. This faction is not new either and has actually become popular enough to control the government at least part of the time, so it's not hard to find officials asserting the very opposite. It's a very contentious issue. The apparent impossibility of liberating the PRC held territory, and a strong desire not to be absorbed by it, is probably a main cause of the increase in independence sentiment.
I dont live there and am not pretending to be an authority, just a sinophile sharing what I have observed.
"Software engineering is NRE. You do it once, and it applies to millions of units"
True in theory. In fact, software development as an industry is built around and focused on doing everything quick and dirty in the anticipation that the device will be obsoleted rather than supported. That sort of work is just not acceptable when you are talking about something where the consequences of bugs is so catastrophic.
And yes, there are some programmers that dont work like that, I am sure. With enough money, you could get a system like this done right - designed carefully, implemented precisely, mathematically proven. But I dont think YOU have any idea how expensive that would be. And it certainly wouldnt look anything like the system Toyota put together here.
"So software costs are neglible (plus, they have to write software for the engine control computer anyway; a few more lines to deal with the throttle isn't a big deal)."
This is exactly the sort of thinking I am talking about. This is the way the current software industry thinks. It's fine when you are dealing with angry birds or even office software. It's completely inappropriate in the control system of a vehicle that can kill dozens of people if it malfunctions.
In fact adding a few more lines to deal with the throttle is a huge deal if this is going to be done right, the whole system has to be validated again. In this case, the system was never validated in the first place!
I only hope they have to pay out enough money to teach them a lesson and prevent this from happening again. I fear it will instead be small enough that within 10 years every car will be done this way.
So you spend a little more on labor and a little less on parts. I know buyers are price-conscious but I doubt many would actually choose the reliability trade-off here.
A simple physical wire linkage is a mature and reliable method where very little can go wrong. Sticking an overpowered and under-programmed general purpose computer into the link is just asking for trouble. Not saying there would never be a good argument to go that route - there could be - but saving money is a lousy reason, not least because either the savings evaporates on software engineering costs, or you wind up killing people with bugs.
So very predictable.
"I don't understand why everyone complains about the Firefox release cycle when it is nearly identical to the Chrome/Chromium release cycle."
We laughed at the Chrome brain damage and the fools that used it, secure in the knowledge at least our browser wasnt THAT stupid - and then it started doing the same thing. That's kind of it in a nutshell.
I do use ESR but I would be much happier with a fork going back to version 3 or earlier and maybe fixing some of the more annoying ancient bugs instead of trying to cram new features I dont need or want down my throat while breaking the UI repeatedly.
"Even then there are some that just don't have a way to re-enable. Like autocompleting URL bars that autocomplete entire URLs, and not just domains or partial URLs."
Or like the status bar. WTF was wrong with the status bar? If you didnt like it you could turn it off like all the other bars. They killed it all the way back @ firefox 4 (when the whole train seems to have gone off the tracks) and made it impossible for it to be fully reconstructed even through an extension. And, btw, that extension is now being reported as incompatible with Firefox 25.
So glad I am using ESR instead of latest Firefox right now. And still hoping someone with a brain will fork the project before the next rev...
It's not that great. He's credited with foreseeing the demise of the soviet union in the blurb, I have no idea how accurate that is, but it's no great feat as the libertarian/austrian thinkers did as well, but that would still be somewhat to his credit if he escaped the beltway groupthink enough to anticipate that. Otherwise he seems mostly to be focused on selling a much larger and more expensive military as necessary to win the future war he fantasizes about with China. Considering the size of the relative expenditures currently, his pitch of drastic increases in spending required in order to hold off a distant, relatively low tech enemy seem alarmist at best.
But what do I know, I have only read a few articles on him. Research him yourself and post what you find out.
"There are plenty of critical comments of Apple and their products on those boards."
As one should expect. Support forums are where people having problems with the products are supposed to go.
I havent noticed any such slowness with slackware startup myself, so I suspect a misconfiguration, but nonetheless, even if that were the cost, having sensible human-readable startup scripts is well worth a couple extra minutes boot time to me anyway. Seriously, how often do you reboot a *nix box? No one really cares how long it takes to do that one-in-a-blue-moon reboot.