It's not tied to the kernel however a good bit of it and user.exe are interdependent, IIRC.
The closest *nix analogy I can come up with is:
Konqueror would be integrated as a component of X and would run under the root account, and while users' access through the GUI to forbidden files would be handled correctly, undocumented API calls and of course critical bugs would enable malicious code to interact directly with filesystem modules.
I know I know, not entirely accurate but that's the closest thing I could come up with to Windows' architecture.
Not only that, but in the Windows world, when you run replication services or cluster the boxes, you pretty much need to update them in tandem. There goes your zero-downtime in a clustered Windows environment.
re: we're learning how those technologies can better interoperate with Microsoft's proprietary technologies.
I'll believe it when Microsoft contributes to (either) samba's protocol stack (or|and) GUIs for samba, including either webmin or an X app - oh, and helps to document smb.conf:)
Meanwhile, aren't they still running their "Get the FUD" campaign?
re: This is something I've never really udnerstand when Linux afficianado's criticize Microsoft.
Well, patch Solitaire in Windows, you have to reboot (okay, slight exaggeration), leading to downtime ranging from minutes to hours (in the case of extremely large databases)
Patch anything but the kernel(and modules) in Linux? Just keep chugging along, perhaps restarting a single process or two, and a fairly transparent experience from the user perspective.
There is a difference.
Also note: downtime due to patches, maintenance, etc., is not counted as "downtime" as defined by Microsoft - just the rest of the world. So when you read downtime/uptime comparisons from Microsoft, ignore them. They redefine the terms.
Rather than a 100-episode long television series, why not, oh, I don't know, pick up where Episode VI left off and develop VII through IX, like Lucas originally said he'd do?
I'd love to see the rest of the Imperial forces and rogue governors chased down, the Republic restored, and the Jedi to come back.
Hasn't Bush's deficit overtaken Ronnie Raygun's by now? I mean, fighting two undeclared wars concurrently AND increasing government bloat AND funding "economic development" abroad has to have incurred some amount of debt, and I can't fathom that Reagan spent more money than that, even after adjusting for inflation.
(no, I honestly don't know, this is a serious question, not a flamebait comment or anything of that ilk)
Hint: Not everyone who likes what the GOP claims their platform is supports certain current high-ranking members' (e.g., Dubya) actions. I for one hate Dubya's policies with a passion. We're funding solving everyone else's problems, giving tax money to Indian and Chinese companies for "economic development" and actually INCREASE offshoring, and not granting tax breaks or any incentives for American companies to manufacture tangible goods domestically. Instead, we tax (double-tax in fact) corporations to death (especially small ones) to fund creation of competitors abroad - further increasing the uneven balance in competition in offshore companies' favor.
As far as CATO's take on the DMCA and DRM: haven't we technologically-savvy folks been saying this from the very beginning? Their issuing such a paper is basically the "duh" statement of the year.
. . . which is why I replaced my $350 Sony DVD player with a cheap made-in-Taiwan player which actually turned out to be a better player. Why? Sony wanted $120 for a replacement optical sled. WTF?!
It wasn't until AFTER I tossed it that I found the exact same sled under a different part number/different brand from one of my distributors.:(
Fuck Sony, preferably with an old, cracked and splintered, creosote-soaked telephone pole. Repeatedly.
My point is: there are exactly TWO shows they have that interest me; they've killed off everything else and replaced it with crap.
My reaction is to essentially "steal" (in their view) the content by not watching the adverts.
What is so difficult to understand? I've not denied being a viewer of Family Guy and The Simpsons.
Methinks you're guilty of skimming and responding based on a partial reading of a post - don't worry, we've all been there before!;) Also, I don't think Adult Swim has funding enough to 1) take the Futurama rights away from FOX and 2) produce new episodes (Hell, Fox even took their right to air the new season away because FOX wanted this season's broadcast rights exclusively). Also, it's highly unlikely that they would entertain the idea of picking up Arrested Development, nor would they have the funding for it.
Actually I think it is Katey's best role ever. She has the perfect voice for Leela, she can sing, and she obviously really gets into it.
Ignore the fact that she was Peggy Bundy for a number of years. While she's been pretty much typecast by that role, you've got to admit she does an excellent job on Futurama.
Fox, like all the other networks driven by commercials, exist to sell product.
Which is precisely why I tape the two FOX shows I watch (Simpsons and Family Guy), and fast forward through the advertisements. I make this publicly known on FOX messageboards (notably Arrested Development) and have emailed them to this effect. Why do I make a big deal out of this?
Because we as viewers are not the networks' customers. Networks don't give a flying **** what you or I think unless we understand how it works, e.g., by not viewing advertisements and making it abundantly clear that we know this is where their profit center is and that we are boycotting their core product and essentially leeching the content, they will begin to wake up and understand that they need to listen to the viewer every bit as much as they listen to advertisers. Why? Because if the advertising is rendered fruitless, they will become less marketable to advertisers when the advertising is rendered ineffective, and when that happens, they begin to fail as a business. In other words, networks such as FOX have to begin to consider the viewer to be their customers just as much as they consider the advertisers their customers.
It's going to take more than just me and a handful of others for this kind of thing to work, and while I recognize that I still bring it up when there is a chance that any FOX reps are reading or listening.
This is why I hope that AD actually goes to Showtime rather than staying on at FOX - Showtime actually listens to what viewers want, since viewers are their customers. Viewers pay subscription fees, which is their primary revenue stream. They have no choice but to deliver what customers want - Even though the cable companies are Showtime's direct customers, the folks at Showtime are savvy enough to understand that it is the end customer - the viewer - who decides whether or not to subscribe to showtime, and ultimately drives their success or failure.
This is where broadcast networks fail; they refuse to acknowledge that viewers are their customers, every bit as much if not MORE so than the advertisers who pay them to carry their ads. If you do not listen to your viewers, you quickly lose your audience and your marketability to advertisers rapidly plummets.
Based on the screenshots, there isn't much new. While they readily admit the GUI isn't in place, I'd expect even an alpha build to reveal more of the functionality (otherwise it isn't alpha yet).
One thing in the GUI that really catches my eye is the History menu, and the search option in particular. While you can search History via the sidebar in FF 1.5, it's somewhat weak. I'd guess that if they devoted a menu to History, they've vastly improved it.:)
One thing I would LOVE to see is all of Tab Mix Plus to make it into the core functionality of Firefox. Actually there is a number of things Firefox (core application) sorely needs, natively out of the box:
- a resizable search box (whose bright idea was it to make it a fixed width anyhow? Why should I have to download the Resize Search Box extension for such a basic thing?)
- Session management - Opera does this out of the box, and I really like the session management extensions.
- User agent switcher: Opera and Konqueror both do this natively. Firefox should as well, so that we can use coded-for-ie-and-only-ie web sites - again, without having to download and install an extension
- Tab Mix Plus (mentioned above) - every other tabbed browser does natively what Tab Mix Plus adds. Firefox should do everything this extension provides, natively. Also, I should be able to "detach" a tab - this has really grown on me in Konqueror.
Looks like I'll keep timeshifting the two FOX shows I bother to watch, make sure I fast forward through advertisements.
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Is it me, or is Fox just plain out of touch?
They cancelled Family Guy (I was GLAD when they cancelled it because the musical timeslot game they were playing with the show was worse than not having it) and Futurama only for Adult Swim to syndicate them and earn consistently phenomenal ratings at a poor timeslot - a cable station no less, where poor ratings are expected at ANY timeslot. When the DVDs came out, DVD sales went through the roof almost immediately, and every time Groening and Cohen put out a new compilation of episodes, it charts. Even worse, Futurama won multiple emmies, earned a lot of critical acclaim, the demand is obviously there and many catch phrases from the show have caught on in American culture (Good news, everyone! Bite my shiny metal ass! etc.) which is unexpected given the more academic nature of Futurama's humor. Sure, there is some LCD fart humor in the show, but the vast amount of it is more math, science, and technology oriented. I've told my mom about the show, and she's told me she watches it from time to time (she loves Bender's antics).
Look at Arrested Development - similar situation. It earned what, SIX emmies, and despite receiving NO promotion from FOX and the musical timeslot having been played with the show, it STILL garnered six million viewers week to week during the first two seasons, and when initial news of the cancellation (er, sorry, "cut order" in Fox nomanclature) it STILL managed to attract 3.7mil to 4.0mil viewers per week, and you had to search for the show for this last season. DVD sales through the roof, an uproar throughout the press over Fox's treatment of the show, and they still won't hear of continuing it. You have two competing networks who have put in bids for the show, and right now it's in Mitch Hurwitz's lap as to whether or not the show goes on (I've read he's worn out due to the emotional roller coaster he went through at Fox, and I can't blame him if he doesn't accept Showtime's or ABC's offer). What essentially replaced it was "War at Home" which is a show which earns critical scorn, poor ratings, and much mocking on the web. Heck, I didn't even KNOW about Arrested Development until late summer; I set my VCR to tape The Simpsons and Family Guy (yes, I use tape, my ATI AiW cards don't cooperate with Linux) and fast forward through the commercials. I never knew about Arrested Development until a friend told me about it, so I read some reviews, and the one weak promotional attempt of a marathon that Fox ran (in other words, they had no new "reality" show episodes in the can, so they looked for something to fill airtime) happened to be coming up so I watched it; I was hooked. When the announcement came that they were cancelling the show (er, cutting the order short) I'd love to say I was shocked, but I wasn't. After what happened to Titus, Family Guy, and Futurama, it could very easily have been predicted.
If it's a quality show and not The Simpsons, Fox will not give the show the respect it deserves. They have a very, very long track record of that dating all the way back to 1990, when they enjoyed their initial taste of success from Married With Children, the Tracy Ullman Show, and The Simpsons.
My theory about Fox: I think what happens is folks involved in program scheduling at FOX play politics when it comes to their pet projects, and when their projects lose to competing bids, they seek to sabotage the shows that win over their projects by either putting them in timeslots they KNOW will be preempted (e.g., Futurama's 7:00 Sunday slot which is consistently overrun by Football games, Baseball games, and even Basketball playoffs). If the show does manage to earn some success, they take it a step further and move the show around week to week, in a fervent attempt to completely destroy the ratings.
The wake these shows leave behind, including harsh articles from critics lambastimg them over idiotic cancellations, a tremendous number of well-done fan web sites, and high DVD sales ratings, and yet all the while the
I should patent a method by which one can achieve a feeling of euphoria or ecstasy while having one's genitals petted or otherwise stimulated. I shall call this the "orgasm" and unless I see execs of that company getting dumped by their wives due to lack of satisfaction, I know they will be violating my patented thought process and will seek legal action including licensing fees dating back to their date of marriage, or their first-born's date of conception, whichever comes first.
Of course they would say I am comparing apples and oranges, but really, I'm not. Patents are supposed to cover inventions. That's it. Nothing else. I think my proposal above illustrates how freaking ridiculous the US patent system has become.
On a different but related note: How the hell are companies like this being allowed to patent the human genome? Depending on what you believe, there is between 6,000 and 20 million years' worth of prior art, and they've innovated/designed/etc. NOTHING in that regard. The same goes for thoughts, story plots, and so forth. Where NOTHING is being INVENTED there should be NO patent allowed. Period.
If they want to protect the works describing thought processes, they can use a Copyright, not a patent. Ditto for descriptions of the human genome. Of course the facts themselves cannot be copyrighted and someone else can restate them based on their works, but the expression of the documentation itself is copyrightable.
Well this would also be true if the majority of the market switched to OS/X, Linux, BSD, or other alternative operating systems instead. . . or even switched from MSIE to Firefox or Opera en masse.
Whatever the case, AntiVirus and AntiSpyware companies should not look at solving an insecure OS's problems as a permanent business - it is a very lucrative short-to-mid term business strategy, and the out should be something like video games or productivity apps in the long term. Diversification is the key to long-term survival, ESPECIALLY when the target market is Windows, and Microsoft has shown time and again that they stab partners in the back, and if it goes to court, Microsoft wins all too often, and when they do lose, they don't get much more than a token slap on the wrist. Wait, not a even a slap on the wrist, just a frownie sticker. Remember the Stacker fiasco where Microsoft misappropriated Stacker code, and stabbed Stac Electronics in the back?
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Oh, well then, I'm dumping my Linux with KDE installation for Windows Vista. See through folders? SHINY!!! ;)
It's not tied to the kernel however a good bit of it and user.exe are interdependent, IIRC.
The closest *nix analogy I can come up with is:
Konqueror would be integrated as a component of X and would run under the root account, and while users' access through the GUI to forbidden files would be handled correctly, undocumented API calls and of course critical bugs would enable malicious code to interact directly with filesystem modules.
I know I know, not entirely accurate but that's the closest thing I could come up with to Windows' architecture.
Autoplay is not a flaw. Heck, even some Linux distributions support a similar mechanism (autorun.sh)
There is a key difference though: the Linux distros which support this prompt the user before actually executing the script.
I'd say the feature should stay, but the user should be prompted first, e.g.,
"The CD you inserted is requesting permission to run d:\foo.exe. Do you wish to continue?"
[Yes, Run the program] [Do not run the program]
[ ] Do not prompt me again (go to start -> Settings -> control panel -> AutoPlay to reenable this prompt)
Worst case, you might have to specify the filesystem by typing a string along the lines of file:///c:/ (or is it file:///c/ ?)
Not only that, but in the Windows world, when you run replication services or cluster the boxes, you pretty much need to update them in tandem. There goes your zero-downtime in a clustered Windows environment.
Want Windows Vista (sidebar and all) without DRM?
;-)
Ingredients:
Windows XP
Desktop Sidebar ( http://www.desktopsidebar.com/ )
Style XP ( http://www.tgtsoft.com/ )
There's your Windows Vista.
re: we're learning how those technologies can better interoperate with Microsoft's proprietary technologies.
:)
I'll believe it when Microsoft contributes to (either) samba's protocol stack (or|and) GUIs for samba, including either webmin or an X app - oh, and helps to document smb.conf
Meanwhile, aren't they still running their "Get the FUD" campaign?
re: This is something I've never really udnerstand when Linux afficianado's criticize Microsoft.
Well, patch Solitaire in Windows, you have to reboot (okay, slight exaggeration), leading to downtime ranging from minutes to hours (in the case of extremely large databases)
Patch anything but the kernel(and modules) in Linux? Just keep chugging along, perhaps restarting a single process or two, and a fairly transparent experience from the user perspective.
There is a difference.
Also note: downtime due to patches, maintenance, etc., is not counted as "downtime" as defined by Microsoft - just the rest of the world. So when you read downtime/uptime comparisons from Microsoft, ignore them. They redefine the terms.
Maybe they'll pull the new skin, then all that will be left is the nice shiny new DRM. ;)
No mod points today. IMHO your post rates a "Funny"
Rather than a 100-episode long television series, why not, oh, I don't know, pick up where Episode VI left off and develop VII through IX, like Lucas originally said he'd do?
I'd love to see the rest of the Imperial forces and rogue governors chased down, the Republic restored, and the Jedi to come back.
Hasn't Bush's deficit overtaken Ronnie Raygun's by now? I mean, fighting two undeclared wars concurrently AND increasing government bloat AND funding "economic development" abroad has to have incurred some amount of debt, and I can't fathom that Reagan spent more money than that, even after adjusting for inflation.
(no, I honestly don't know, this is a serious question, not a flamebait comment or anything of that ilk)
Hint: Not everyone who likes what the GOP claims their platform is supports certain current high-ranking members' (e.g., Dubya) actions. I for one hate Dubya's policies with a passion. We're funding solving everyone else's problems, giving tax money to Indian and Chinese companies for "economic development" and actually INCREASE offshoring, and not granting tax breaks or any incentives for American companies to manufacture tangible goods domestically. Instead, we tax (double-tax in fact) corporations to death (especially small ones) to fund creation of competitors abroad - further increasing the uneven balance in competition in offshore companies' favor.
As far as CATO's take on the DMCA and DRM: haven't we technologically-savvy folks been saying this from the very beginning? Their issuing such a paper is basically the "duh" statement of the year.
. . . which is why I replaced my $350 Sony DVD player with a cheap made-in-Taiwan player which actually turned out to be a better player. Why? Sony wanted $120 for a replacement optical sled. WTF?! It wasn't until AFTER I tossed it that I found the exact same sled under a different part number/different brand from one of my distributors. :(
Fuck Sony, preferably with an old, cracked and splintered, creosote-soaked telephone pole. Repeatedly.
Not only that, but how did he manage to accomplish this in 1993?
My point is: there are exactly TWO shows they have that interest me; they've killed off everything else and replaced it with crap.
;) Also, I don't think Adult Swim has funding enough to 1) take the Futurama rights away from FOX and 2) produce new episodes (Hell, Fox even took their right to air the new season away because FOX wanted this season's broadcast rights exclusively). Also, it's highly unlikely that they would entertain the idea of picking up Arrested Development, nor would they have the funding for it.
My reaction is to essentially "steal" (in their view) the content by not watching the adverts.
What is so difficult to understand? I've not denied being a viewer of Family Guy and The Simpsons.
Methinks you're guilty of skimming and responding based on a partial reading of a post - don't worry, we've all been there before!
Actually I think it is Katey's best role ever. She has the perfect voice for Leela, she can sing, and she obviously really gets into it.
Ignore the fact that she was Peggy Bundy for a number of years. While she's been pretty much typecast by that role, you've got to admit she does an excellent job on Futurama.
Which is precisely why I tape the two FOX shows I watch (Simpsons and Family Guy), and fast forward through the advertisements. I make this publicly known on FOX messageboards (notably Arrested Development) and have emailed them to this effect. Why do I make a big deal out of this?
Because we as viewers are not the networks' customers. Networks don't give a flying **** what you or I think unless we understand how it works, e.g., by not viewing advertisements and making it abundantly clear that we know this is where their profit center is and that we are boycotting their core product and essentially leeching the content, they will begin to wake up and understand that they need to listen to the viewer every bit as much as they listen to advertisers. Why? Because if the advertising is rendered fruitless, they will become less marketable to advertisers when the advertising is rendered ineffective, and when that happens, they begin to fail as a business. In other words, networks such as FOX have to begin to consider the viewer to be their customers just as much as they consider the advertisers their customers.
It's going to take more than just me and a handful of others for this kind of thing to work, and while I recognize that I still bring it up when there is a chance that any FOX reps are reading or listening.
This is why I hope that AD actually goes to Showtime rather than staying on at FOX - Showtime actually listens to what viewers want, since viewers are their customers. Viewers pay subscription fees, which is their primary revenue stream. They have no choice but to deliver what customers want - Even though the cable companies are Showtime's direct customers, the folks at Showtime are savvy enough to understand that it is the end customer - the viewer - who decides whether or not to subscribe to showtime, and ultimately drives their success or failure.
This is where broadcast networks fail; they refuse to acknowledge that viewers are their customers, every bit as much if not MORE so than the advertisers who pay them to carry their ads. If you do not listen to your viewers, you quickly lose your audience and your marketability to advertisers rapidly plummets.
Based on the screenshots, there isn't much new. While they readily admit the GUI isn't in place, I'd expect even an alpha build to reveal more of the functionality (otherwise it isn't alpha yet).
:)
One thing in the GUI that really catches my eye is the History menu, and the search option in particular. While you can search History via the sidebar in FF 1.5, it's somewhat weak. I'd guess that if they devoted a menu to History, they've vastly improved it.
One thing I would LOVE to see is all of Tab Mix Plus to make it into the core functionality of Firefox. Actually there is a number of things Firefox (core application) sorely needs, natively out of the box:
- a resizable search box (whose bright idea was it to make it a fixed width anyhow? Why should I have to download the Resize Search Box extension for such a basic thing?)
- Session management - Opera does this out of the box, and I really like the session management extensions.
- User agent switcher: Opera and Konqueror both do this natively. Firefox should as well, so that we can use coded-for-ie-and-only-ie web sites - again, without having to download and install an extension
- Tab Mix Plus (mentioned above) - every other tabbed browser does natively what Tab Mix Plus adds. Firefox should do everything this extension provides, natively. Also, I should be able to "detach" a tab - this has really grown on me in Konqueror.
Actually this is precisely the kind of thing Bender would say!
No kidding.
F*** YOU, FOX!!!!
Looks like I'll keep timeshifting the two FOX shows I bother to watch, make sure I fast forward through advertisements.
Is it me, or is Fox just plain out of touch?
They cancelled Family Guy (I was GLAD when they cancelled it because the musical timeslot game they were playing with the show was worse than not having it) and Futurama only for Adult Swim to syndicate them and earn consistently phenomenal ratings at a poor timeslot - a cable station no less, where poor ratings are expected at ANY timeslot. When the DVDs came out, DVD sales went through the roof almost immediately, and every time Groening and Cohen put out a new compilation of episodes, it charts. Even worse, Futurama won multiple emmies, earned a lot of critical acclaim, the demand is obviously there and many catch phrases from the show have caught on in American culture (Good news, everyone! Bite my shiny metal ass! etc.) which is unexpected given the more academic nature of Futurama's humor. Sure, there is some LCD fart humor in the show, but the vast amount of it is more math, science, and technology oriented. I've told my mom about the show, and she's told me she watches it from time to time (she loves Bender's antics).
Look at Arrested Development - similar situation. It earned what, SIX emmies, and despite receiving NO promotion from FOX and the musical timeslot having been played with the show, it STILL garnered six million viewers week to week during the first two seasons, and when initial news of the cancellation (er, sorry, "cut order" in Fox nomanclature) it STILL managed to attract 3.7mil to 4.0mil viewers per week, and you had to search for the show for this last season. DVD sales through the roof, an uproar throughout the press over Fox's treatment of the show, and they still won't hear of continuing it. You have two competing networks who have put in bids for the show, and right now it's in Mitch Hurwitz's lap as to whether or not the show goes on (I've read he's worn out due to the emotional roller coaster he went through at Fox, and I can't blame him if he doesn't accept Showtime's or ABC's offer). What essentially replaced it was "War at Home" which is a show which earns critical scorn, poor ratings, and much mocking on the web. Heck, I didn't even KNOW about Arrested Development until late summer; I set my VCR to tape The Simpsons and Family Guy (yes, I use tape, my ATI AiW cards don't cooperate with Linux) and fast forward through the commercials. I never knew about Arrested Development until a friend told me about it, so I read some reviews, and the one weak promotional attempt of a marathon that Fox ran (in other words, they had no new "reality" show episodes in the can, so they looked for something to fill airtime) happened to be coming up so I watched it; I was hooked. When the announcement came that they were cancelling the show (er, cutting the order short) I'd love to say I was shocked, but I wasn't. After what happened to Titus, Family Guy, and Futurama, it could very easily have been predicted.
If it's a quality show and not The Simpsons, Fox will not give the show the respect it deserves. They have a very, very long track record of that dating all the way back to 1990, when they enjoyed their initial taste of success from Married With Children, the Tracy Ullman Show, and The Simpsons.
My theory about Fox: I think what happens is folks involved in program scheduling at FOX play politics when it comes to their pet projects, and when their projects lose to competing bids, they seek to sabotage the shows that win over their projects by either putting them in timeslots they KNOW will be preempted (e.g., Futurama's 7:00 Sunday slot which is consistently overrun by Football games, Baseball games, and even Basketball playoffs). If the show does manage to earn some success, they take it a step further and move the show around week to week, in a fervent attempt to completely destroy the ratings.
The wake these shows leave behind, including harsh articles from critics lambastimg them over idiotic cancellations, a tremendous number of well-done fan web sites, and high DVD sales ratings, and yet all the while the
You're a loony!
I should patent a method by which one can achieve a feeling of euphoria or ecstasy while having one's genitals petted or otherwise stimulated. I shall call this the "orgasm" and unless I see execs of that company getting dumped by their wives due to lack of satisfaction, I know they will be violating my patented thought process and will seek legal action including licensing fees dating back to their date of marriage, or their first-born's date of conception, whichever comes first.
Of course they would say I am comparing apples and oranges, but really, I'm not. Patents are supposed to cover inventions. That's it. Nothing else. I think my proposal above illustrates how freaking ridiculous the US patent system has become.
On a different but related note: How the hell are companies like this being allowed to patent the human genome? Depending on what you believe, there is between 6,000 and 20 million years' worth of prior art, and they've innovated/designed/etc. NOTHING in that regard. The same goes for thoughts, story plots, and so forth. Where NOTHING is being INVENTED there should be NO patent allowed. Period.
If they want to protect the works describing thought processes, they can use a Copyright, not a patent. Ditto for descriptions of the human genome. Of course the facts themselves cannot be copyrighted and someone else can restate them based on their works, but the expression of the documentation itself is copyrightable.
I'm sick of our system being so ****ed up.
Well this would also be true if the majority of the market switched to OS/X, Linux, BSD, or other alternative operating systems instead. . . or even switched from MSIE to Firefox or Opera en masse.
Whatever the case, AntiVirus and AntiSpyware companies should not look at solving an insecure OS's problems as a permanent business - it is a very lucrative short-to-mid term business strategy, and the out should be something like video games or productivity apps in the long term. Diversification is the key to long-term survival, ESPECIALLY when the target market is Windows, and Microsoft has shown time and again that they stab partners in the back, and if it goes to court, Microsoft wins all too often, and when they do lose, they don't get much more than a token slap on the wrist. Wait, not a even a slap on the wrist, just a frownie sticker. Remember the Stacker fiasco where Microsoft misappropriated Stacker code, and stabbed Stac Electronics in the back?