"To beg the question" is a fallacy where one assumes that an argument is true while attempting to prove its truth. It does not mean "to request that a question be addressed".
Webster's definition 2b for BEG is "to require as necessary or appropriate". This is the definition meant in the logical fallacy of "begging the question", as in to require the conclusion to be one of the premises, though usually worded differently of course. The confusion here is in the term "the question". The referent of "the question" in the logical fallacy is the premise that is merely asserted but not proven. When an argument begs A question, then it's meant that it requires that a question be asked of it (which could also be said of a fallacious argument).
It's common usage with technical accuracy to back it up. Some arguments can beg a response, an offense may beg a lawsuit (sometimes anthropomorphically phrased as begging FOR a lawsuit, which is derivative). It was common use before academia picked it up.
You know, the one that extends copyright so long you won't ever see a classic become public domain within your great grandchildren's lifetime, the one that makes a thoughtcrime out of possessing software that could make other illegal-to-possess programs. Anything that could be used to reverse engineer precious intellectual property..
The monkey cage goes into a fit screeching at Microsoft for their attempts at lock-in but don't give a second thought to buying proprietary hardware to buy proprietary games. This is vertical lock-in, folks, what are you going to do if one company does create the ultimate console and the others dry up and blow away? Will anyone ever get back into this market when you feed at the trough of the this console maker, who demands that all games made for it be licensed only to it? Maybe not now, maybe not in a couple years... How about 5? How many new Sega titles do you see now?
Upgrades of units. Patrol and waypoint orders. Area defend orders. Computer control orders. (AC has all of these BTW). Diplomacy that doesn't look so obviously taken from a chinese menu. AI that doesn't consider diplomatic agreements meaningless.
Would it just destroy empire entirely to include a few screenshots? Or even a good rundown of the features? There is NO INFO AT ALL on this game, and when you download a client and start it, you're treated to nothing but a rude message about no server running.
> First step, Mr. gates, is to reduce the cist of NT (and do away with that per-licence/per-seat arrangemet).
I've heard NT called something like a cyst before, i assume you mean cost:) Seriously, that per-seat stuff is chump change. My company spent like $500 to send me to orientation where they told me where the bathrooms and cafeteria were and showed us a cool video and not a whole lot more. You gotta do that for every new employee. You can re-use a license.
Put your pgp key in a url instead of posting it, okay?
I once spent all day hacking on some perl module I downloaded for a graphing project. Half of it asking about my need for a statistical graphing package, half of it futzing with some internal data to expose it to other program logic. This moved my milestone for prototyping the system by three days. I gave away no IP, my job title and division are public knowledge, I simply said I needed statistical packages for tracking helpdesk incidents. Everyone in the industry knows what that involves. Nor was I compelled in any way to release my work, as it simply wasn't being made public.
That's not theft, that's industry association. I saved the company a lot of time, and my time isn't free.
I didn't see anything like "Changelog" jump out at me on freebsd.org or on freebsdrocks. I'm not a hordling (though my name *is* Chuck) but I'm still curious about it.
Well, since most of Windows 9x is written in Ada it wouldn't matter much. And NT is mostly C, but has hundreds of millions lines of code (250 million I believe maybe it was 350).
Dude, you need to switch brands of crack. It's not THAT big. And where do you get the idea that Win95 is written in Ada? It's compiled with VC++. This should give you a miniscule clue what it's written in.
I find it suitably ironic that the de-formatting that happened to that example would cause it not to run. I'll take a language that isn't whitespace-sensitive, thanks.
i have a ticket sitting in my queue that this language would be absolutely perfect for, but we are all IMAP here. no imap, no go. yawn. utterly useless to me.
> switching speeds are measured in milliseconds and no caches;
It's not THAT bad. Switching speed is a good deal faster than that in some nerves like motor nerves, but latency is of course a factor -- muscles can only pull so fast. Your short term memory can be considered a cache.
Explain the difference between data and concept? I can change the concept of polymorphism and inheritance with a sufficiently advanced OOP language that implements the meta-object protocol.
Guess what: people "misuse" tools all the time. People "misused" the telephone according to Bell's original intent for it.
I need to mix graphics and text with a format that can be output with a text editor and display on a widely available tool. Gee Beav, I wonder if such a thing exists?
Don't presume to tell me that I'm misusing anything unless you want to write and maintain my application for me.
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Webster's definition 2b for BEG is "to require as necessary or appropriate". This is the definition meant in the logical fallacy of "begging the question", as in to require the conclusion to be one of the premises, though usually worded differently of course. The confusion here is in the term "the question". The referent of "the question" in the logical fallacy is the premise that is merely asserted but not proven. When an argument begs A question, then it's meant that it requires that a question be asked of it (which could also be said of a fallacious argument).
It's common usage with technical accuracy to back it up. Some arguments can beg a response, an offense may beg a lawsuit (sometimes anthropomorphically phrased as begging FOR a lawsuit, which is derivative). It was common use before academia picked it up.
You know, the one that extends copyright so long you won't ever see a classic become public domain within your great grandchildren's lifetime, the one that makes a thoughtcrime out of possessing software that could make other illegal-to-possess programs. Anything that could be used to reverse engineer precious intellectual property..
The monkey cage goes into a fit screeching at Microsoft for their attempts at lock-in but don't give a second thought to buying proprietary hardware to buy proprietary games. This is vertical lock-in, folks, what are you going to do if one company does create the ultimate console and the others dry up and blow away? Will anyone ever get back into this market when you feed at the trough of the this console maker, who demands that all games made for it be licensed only to it? Maybe not now, maybe not in a couple years... How about 5? How many new Sega titles do you see now?
Don't just boycott Nintendo, boycott consoles.
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Winter, it's real cold
Dark too
and vampires and stuff
How much better than Civ3?
Upgrades of units. Patrol and waypoint orders. Area defend orders. Computer control orders. (AC has all of these BTW). Diplomacy that doesn't look so obviously taken from a chinese menu. AI that doesn't consider diplomatic agreements meaningless.
Would it just destroy empire entirely to include a few screenshots? Or even a good rundown of the features? There is NO INFO AT ALL on this game, and when you download a client and start it, you're treated to nothing but a rude message about no server running.
> First step, Mr. gates, is to reduce the cist of NT (and do away with that per-licence/per-seat arrangemet).
:)
I've heard NT called something like a cyst before, i assume you mean cost
Seriously, that per-seat stuff is chump change. My company spent like $500 to send me to orientation where they told me where the bathrooms and cafeteria were and showed us a cool video and not a whole lot more. You gotta do that for every new employee. You can re-use a license.
Put your pgp key in a url instead of posting it, okay?
cite the URL or shut up
I once spent all day hacking on some perl module I downloaded for a graphing project. Half of it asking about my need for a statistical graphing package, half of it futzing with some internal data to expose it to other program logic. This moved my milestone for prototyping the system by three days. I gave away no IP, my job title and division are public knowledge, I simply said I needed statistical packages for tracking helpdesk incidents. Everyone in the industry knows what that involves. Nor was I compelled in any way to release my work, as it simply wasn't being made public.
That's not theft, that's industry association. I saved the company a lot of time, and my time isn't free.
I didn't see anything like "Changelog" jump out at me on freebsd.org or on freebsdrocks. I'm not a hordling (though my name *is* Chuck) but I'm still curious about it.
So you want degenerative threads to illustrate your innate superiority or something?
How about this: cvsup it and enjoy it and live life outside your choice of OS.
And it breaks if the indentation isn't consistent. That makes it sensitive.
Please report to maintenance to have your humor circuits reinstalled.
Dude, you need to switch brands of crack. It's not THAT big. And where do you get the idea that Win95 is written in Ada? It's compiled with VC++. This should give you a miniscule clue what it's written in.
Yet oddly enough, I don't drive a Mercury SplitFire Tracer, let alone a Mercury SplitFire GoodYear QuakerState Tracer.
hands? hoof to stubby wing anyhow ... would be kinda awkward, dontcha think? :)
Ahh the GNU manifesto. Couldn't stop laughing when he got to the part about asteroid mining.
Bleh on both. Xemacs's gnus logo is wonderful. Start up gnus on Xemacs sometime and look for yourself.
I find it suitably ironic that the de-formatting that happened to that example would cause it not to run. I'll take a language that isn't whitespace-sensitive, thanks.
Standard protection:
> You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the Software.
Think of it as a beta test. My guess is they'll sell some kind of rebol-powered gui mail product.
i have a ticket sitting in my queue that this language would be absolutely perfect for, but we are all IMAP here. no imap, no go. yawn. utterly useless to me.
> switching speeds are measured in milliseconds and no caches;
It's not THAT bad. Switching speed is a good deal faster than that in some nerves like motor nerves, but latency is of course a factor -- muscles can only pull so fast. Your short term memory can be considered a cache.
Explain the difference between data and concept? I can change the concept of polymorphism and inheritance with a sufficiently advanced OOP language that implements the meta-object protocol.
what sort of awful thing did egcs do to gcc?
Guess what: people "misuse" tools all the time. People "misused" the telephone according to Bell's original intent for it.
I need to mix graphics and text with a format that can be output with a text editor and display on a widely available tool. Gee Beav, I wonder if such a thing exists?
Don't presume to tell me that I'm misusing anything unless you want to write and maintain my application for me.
tangerine!
Will you still have to page through each and every possible dselect package to install it? vi, vim, vi-swahili, vi-lower-slobivian, vi-ad-nauseum ...