what we need is browser makers to stop trying to make HTML do exactly the same stuff as you can do with DTP programs (ie get pixel perfect layout control).
What we need is for people who don't need it to not use it. When you're designing a page for a kiosk with a resolution like a Palm Pilot, you start to appreciate pixel-level control. "give or take a pixel here or there" is not acceptable behavior.
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"I speak good English" is also common and perfectly correct. The English you speak is good in quality. Talk is merely a synonym for speak. Word choice is a little off, but it's quite correct, technically.
I give you a C as a teacher... at least you gave him a passing grade:)
> I've seen in many articles about Linux stating that there are no applications taking advantage of the Linux SMP.
Piffle. Apache runs multiple processes, and as such, benefits tremendously from SMP. Anything multithreaded (like Squid) will also benefit. And even single-process single-threaded apps will see response increases when the OS itself is multithreaded -- which Linux barely is. Probably further along than Netware though... until recently, their OS technically didn't even MULTITASK.
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I don't get this... What is it about NT that automatically turns otherwise perfectly qualified admins into idiots? Could it be that a fundamentally unstable operating system requires constant supervision to keep it from falling over?
Microsoft's own numbers show that 15% of NT users experience a BSOD more than once a month.
You mean it's not fair to test every OS on the same hardware? God forbid we don't RIG the tests to favor Linux. Besides, isn't "we're the cheapest" Microsoft's slogan? (based on their mystical TCO numbers).
Why, when people are interested in "enterprise" web servers where their only benchmark is total throughput, do they benchmark Apache? I know that's not what Apache is for, you know that's not what Apache is for, the Apache developers openly proclaim that's not what it's for.
I know that, you know that, ZD probably knows that. But which web server is running over 50% of all websites? That's a standard if I ever saw one. Zeus needs to get out there and start actually marketing their product.
It's an exceedingly rare thing to see an Exchange server running MAPI-only, even in the most pro-Microsoft shops. Unheard of on an ISP. I really don't see that Linux needs to support a proprietary protocol that isn't even required to access mail on 100% of ISP's and 99% of other shops.
Here's something concrete, and trivial: Help menus should be on the far right side of a menubar. This is a sort of X standard, and some toolkits even enforce it by automagically repositioning a menu item named "Help".
The help browser needs mousewheel support. Seems lots of other widgets support it, this seems to be an omission.
And how about some color in the button icons? All that tan and khaki makes it look as drab as CDE.
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What I love about KDE is how accessable it does make a command prompt when you want one, either to launch an X client or to run a command with no output. Alt-F2, and pow, up pops a little window (complete with history, now we just need completion:) and enter your command there. Great for starting kvt^H^H^Hkonsoles when you don't feel like messing with the mouse.
Why yes it should be as slow as technet. See, we'll have to organize it in a central searchable hierarchical repository, put in a good fast system, then throw in a buncha sleep() calls as the finishing touch to make it just as slow as technet.
I didn't say "exactly like technet down to the pixel level" did I?
The Clio fits the bill for the touch-screen laptop, but unfortunately it runs CE. Has anyone figured out yet how to flash a different OS onto those boxes? I'd love a WinCE box if I didn't have to actually run CE on it.
This should be part of a TUNING-HOWTO and put in the LDP. The LDP could also do with some organization too. Something like microsoft technet or support.apple.com would be nice.
Linux has proven itself in the reliability field for single nodes. Beowulf is still a fairly ad hoc thing, it may work for some things, maybe not for others. Linux just doesn't have the High Availability features some other OS's do, partly because of its origins on hardware that isn't itself HA. If you yank the plug on a single Beowulf node, it's likely to scream and die (the process that depends on it, the cluster in general should probably manage... probably). Ironically, the folks who did implement this failover HA feature in some Linux cluster are none other than... IBM.
Ever heard of ISO? There's this certification called ISO 9000. There are contracts you can't get unless you're ISO 9000 certified -- a de facto license. There are ISO programming language standards, meaning they could easily certify compliance to the standard. Process on the other hand, no one seems to know what's best. Probably the most bulletproof process is the one they follow for the space shuttle guidance software, where every minute change has to go through rigorous specification and proof. But any consumer software company that followed that process would never see their products get to market.
It's actually a sort of in-joke now, it's usually something like: "Imagine what kind of 3L33T Beowulf cluster you could build with those". It's been said for everything from supercomputers to matchbox servers.
Basically it's a troll, of the cute variety like you see in alt.folklore.urban from time to time.
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Kernel updates could be tossed in with general software update notifications, stuff that isn't really big news, just YA update.
Maybe have a raw steak for an icon, as a reference to freshmeat
> Sadly enough though there is still no common format across systems that run on the same CPU.
*cough*java*cough*
What we need is for people who don't need it to not use it. When you're designing a page for a kiosk with a resolution like a Palm Pilot, you start to appreciate pixel-level control. "give or take a pixel here or there" is not acceptable behavior.
"I speak good English" is also common and perfectly correct. The English you speak is good in quality. Talk is merely a synonym for speak. Word choice is a little off, but it's quite correct, technically.
... at least you gave him a passing grade :)
I give you a C as a teacher
> I've seen in many articles about Linux stating that there are no applications taking advantage of the Linux SMP.
... until recently, their OS technically didn't even MULTITASK.
Piffle. Apache runs multiple processes, and as such, benefits tremendously from SMP. Anything multithreaded (like Squid) will also benefit. And even single-process single-threaded apps will see response increases when the OS itself is multithreaded -- which Linux barely is. Probably further along than Netware though
I don't get this... What is it about NT that automatically turns otherwise perfectly qualified admins into idiots? Could it be that a fundamentally unstable operating system requires constant supervision to keep it from falling over?
Microsoft's own numbers show that 15% of NT users experience a BSOD more than once a month.
You mean it's not fair to test every OS on the same hardware? God forbid we don't RIG the tests to favor Linux. Besides, isn't "we're the cheapest" Microsoft's slogan? (based on their mystical TCO numbers).
Free speech, not free beer.
I know that, you know that, ZD probably knows that. But which web server is running over 50% of all websites? That's a standard if I ever saw one. Zeus needs to get out there and start actually marketing their product.
It's an exceedingly rare thing to see an Exchange server running MAPI-only, even in the most pro-Microsoft shops. Unheard of on an ISP. I really don't see that Linux needs to support a proprietary protocol that isn't even required to access mail on 100% of ISP's and 99% of other shops.
What a stunning riposte. So masterfully executed, it didn't need to be backed up with an actual rebuttal.
Here's something concrete, and trivial: Help menus should be on the far right side of a menubar. This is a sort of X standard, and some toolkits even enforce it by automagically repositioning a menu item named "Help".
The help browser needs mousewheel support. Seems lots of other widgets support it, this seems to be an omission.
And how about some color in the button icons? All that tan and khaki makes it look as drab as CDE.
What I love about KDE is how accessable it does make a command prompt when you want one, either to launch an X client or to run a command with no output. Alt-F2, and pow, up pops a little window (complete with history, now we just need completion :) and enter your command there. Great for starting kvt^H^H^Hkonsoles when you don't feel like messing with the mouse.
Can it be downloaded? Or do you have to know the super-sekrit code word to get it? Is there a compiler for it? A JVM?
Last I heard, the Xi Graphics AccelleratedX demo was the same as the BeOS demo.
Oooh BeOS Pretty OS. Now show me apache, a JVM, and Sybase for it so I can run my jdbc servlets on it, or get out of my way.
Why not just contribute tuning info to the LDP?
Why yes it should be as slow as technet. See, we'll have to organize it in a central searchable hierarchical repository, put in a good fast system, then throw in a buncha sleep() calls as the finishing touch to make it just as slow as technet.
I didn't say "exactly like technet down to the pixel level" did I?
The Clio fits the bill for the touch-screen laptop, but unfortunately it runs CE. Has anyone figured out yet how to flash a different OS onto those boxes? I'd love a WinCE box if I didn't have to actually run CE on it.
This should be part of a TUNING-HOWTO and put in the LDP. The LDP could also do with some organization too. Something like microsoft technet or support.apple.com would be nice.
Linux has proven itself in the reliability field for single nodes. Beowulf is still a fairly ad hoc thing, it may work for some things, maybe not for others. Linux just doesn't have the High Availability features some other OS's do, partly because of its origins on hardware that isn't itself HA. If you yank the plug on a single Beowulf node, it's likely to scream and die (the process that depends on it, the cluster in general should probably manage ... probably). Ironically, the folks who did implement this failover HA feature in some Linux cluster are none other than ... IBM.
Ever heard of ISO? There's this certification called ISO 9000. There are contracts you can't get unless you're ISO 9000 certified -- a de facto license. There are ISO programming language standards, meaning they could easily certify compliance to the standard. Process on the other hand, no one seems to know what's best. Probably the most bulletproof process is the one they follow for the space shuttle guidance software, where every minute change has to go through rigorous specification and proof. But any consumer software company that followed that process would never see their products get to market.
> They seem to be able to enforce things in Kosovo. Well, bomb stuff if not enforce things.
Watch CNN a little more. NATO is bombing. Not the UN.
Window Maker is recommended as an alternate wm for those not wanting to run kwm.
Oh, sorry to spoil your party, I'm sure you'd have been happier if they were in their own little fort waving their own little flag.
It's actually a sort of in-joke now, it's usually something like: "Imagine what kind of 3L33T Beowulf cluster you could build with those". It's been said for everything from supercomputers to matchbox servers.
Basically it's a troll, of the cute variety like you see in alt.folklore.urban from time to time.
X over sockets is like this:
app -> socket -> X -> video
X with shm is like this:
app -> X -> video
Note that there's still a context switch. This is Not A Good Thing. We need this:
app -> video
Thus we have svgalib, ggi, SDL, and so forth.
Didn't Samba recently beat the tar out of a NetApp CIFS box in recent tests?