It is a net loss for ALMOST everyone, but not quite everyone. The RIAA is losing out to more and more people going to independent labels and independent distribution. This is part of a larger concerted effort to gain legal "control" over, than shut down, any distribution of music that isn't theirs. It's not about money, its about information and access.
Internet radio in particular espouses a lot of anti-RIAA sentiment and supports a lot of "indy" music forms not otherwise supported in the mainstream. Shutting it down is in essence destroying in one step one of the largest portions of independent musics infrastructure and communication.
In short, the Empire just destroyed a major Rebel base.
Now that Congress is interested, stalling until it is out of session is as much of a "reprieve" as we are going to get.
The entire goal is to permanently quash alternative music distribution forms and independent labels through a two-pronged attack, this just being one of them, the right to now collect royalties on all NON-RIAA music being the other(which allows them to control access and distribution of it same as they are doing to internet radio). This while they exert more control on real radio and other traditional distribution channels eventually gives them an actual, not just virtual, control of all music period.
The entire goal is to kill all non-RIAA controlled access to music. When there is no other alternative, no matter how bad their products or stupid the pricing, it will be RIAA supplied crap or silence.
My coffee shop was shaken down by ASCAP a couple years back, and they were very clear about the fact that even if it was original music, they still wanted to be paid.
In fact, when I pointed out we did not have a stage and did not have live music, They said in no uncertain terms that since we could not absolutely prove to them that no music was ever performed there, we had to pay anyway or face litigation, prosecution (yea, right), and an injunction shutting us down.
That and what they wanted was not just a grand or two, I don't remember, but it was excessive.
We told them to piss off and gave them our attorneys number, and we never heard from them again. Other shops in the area did pay out, though, and one CLOSED because of the legal harassment.
What a racket.
So what was the point of that article again? I must have missed it.
Perhaps the PR flak who subbed it could explain it to me.
I want that two minutes of my life back now/.
We always talk about the RIAA as an entity, but there is probably only a relatively few individuals that are heading up all of this nonsense. Who are they PERSONALLY. They need to be outed, so that maybe when they are revealed as to who they really are, their personal lives will become as unbearable as they try to make their victims. No more hiding behind a corporate front.
I want to know who these people are and everything about them made public so that decent citizens can avoid these pariahs.
"it is hard to deny that helping Microsoft spread their FUD and trying to get a competitive advantage by splitting the OSS community is far worse than anything Stallman has ever done."
Unless, of course, what he does is to split the OSS community.
You rightly called this deal FUD. It will go away with time. RMS won't, so it would be far better for us all if we could keep him just to THIS side of insanely divisive, and this deal isn't going to help that any.
Whether people like it or not, whether the deal goes on as planned or not, or whether this in any way violates GPL, the damage is unfortunately already done - and not necessarily because of any effects that may come out of the agreement.
The real damage is that the very thought this agreement will cause Stallman to pretty much COMPLETELY lose it, in the flying-blind-in-the-land-of-batshit kind of way. I can't imagine his behavior will get more reasonable anyway, and with his credibility already stretched and the tensions already rife within the community, it doesn't bode well. Open infighting amongst the FOSS community is just what we need right now......
I build CNC and automation equipment, so I can pretty safely say that from what you describe this is a brain-squishingly trivial project. Probably one that can be done over lunch - After you spend five years climbing the learning curve, which is not at all trivial.
I would just ask someone who does do this for a living out for lunch, it'll take them ten minutes. I do this when I need coding done. The price of a few beers to get the occasional patch or script written is a lot more efficient than many years learning coding to do it myself the one time a year the need comes up.
The learning curve on automation hardware is at least as steep as learning Linux, and with crappier documentation. Coding guys usually seem to underestimate the complexity of the physical engineering and design side, and think they are always bright enough to just pick it up and do our jobs. There is more to hardware engineering than the butt-crack guy with a monkeywrench, just like there is more to coding than script kiddies.
In short - unless you want to go into this as a hobby or career change, just treat a hungry engineer to lunch and call it good. Even if you paid him it'd be less than the books you'd need.
altered mathematically to make unintellilligible? How exactly, then, do they tell what advertising, programs, and other media you are exposed to?
Something here doesn't add up. Mainly, why in the hell would people agree to be carrying around an overt bugging device with the sole stated intent of monitoring thier actions?
Not to sound like a troll, but meta-credibility does also work the opposite way;
anti-$ rag says that grassroots anti-$ os/app/whatever is "the best" and you will have an immediate knee-jerk reaction from the community defending it to the death and proudly installing it on thier boxes just to say they did, even if it takes several dozen man-hours to get it to do anything even marginally useful.
Dogma is probably even more dangerous and counterproductive than putting blind trust in some $corps marketing stooges, as hard as that is to comprehend.
Sorry, just watched six guys on laptops code and tweak for two hours failing to get the newest, hippest OS du jour to even recognize basic hardware.
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Is it just me, or did everyone get the motorcycle clip from "PeeWee's Great Adventure" stuck in their heads upon reading that description?
This whole idea is wrapped in so many layers of stupid I can't wrap my brain around it.
Problem is, like many functional solutions in this world, it may be just stupid enough actually work.
It is a net loss for ALMOST everyone, but not quite everyone. The RIAA is losing out to more and more people going to independent labels and independent distribution. This is part of a larger concerted effort to gain legal "control" over, than shut down, any distribution of music that isn't theirs. It's not about money, its about information and access.
Internet radio in particular espouses a lot of anti-RIAA sentiment and supports a lot of "indy" music forms not otherwise supported in the mainstream. Shutting it down is in essence destroying in one step one of the largest portions of independent musics infrastructure and communication.
In short, the Empire just destroyed a major Rebel base.
Now that Congress is interested, stalling until it is out of session is as much of a "reprieve" as we are going to get. The entire goal is to permanently quash alternative music distribution forms and independent labels through a two-pronged attack, this just being one of them, the right to now collect royalties on all NON-RIAA music being the other(which allows them to control access and distribution of it same as they are doing to internet radio). This while they exert more control on real radio and other traditional distribution channels eventually gives them an actual, not just virtual, control of all music period. The entire goal is to kill all non-RIAA controlled access to music. When there is no other alternative, no matter how bad their products or stupid the pricing, it will be RIAA supplied crap or silence.
My coffee shop was shaken down by ASCAP a couple years back, and they were very clear about the fact that even if it was original music, they still wanted to be paid. In fact, when I pointed out we did not have a stage and did not have live music, They said in no uncertain terms that since we could not absolutely prove to them that no music was ever performed there, we had to pay anyway or face litigation, prosecution (yea, right), and an injunction shutting us down. That and what they wanted was not just a grand or two, I don't remember, but it was excessive. We told them to piss off and gave them our attorneys number, and we never heard from them again. Other shops in the area did pay out, though, and one CLOSED because of the legal harassment. What a racket.
So what was the point of that article again? I must have missed it. Perhaps the PR flak who subbed it could explain it to me. I want that two minutes of my life back now /.
We always talk about the RIAA as an entity, but there is probably only a relatively few individuals that are heading up all of this nonsense. Who are they PERSONALLY. They need to be outed, so that maybe when they are revealed as to who they really are, their personal lives will become as unbearable as they try to make their victims. No more hiding behind a corporate front. I want to know who these people are and everything about them made public so that decent citizens can avoid these pariahs.
"it is hard to deny that helping Microsoft spread their FUD and trying to get a competitive advantage by splitting the OSS community is far worse than anything Stallman has ever done."
Unless, of course, what he does is to split the OSS community.
You rightly called this deal FUD. It will go away with time. RMS won't, so it would be far better for us all if we could keep him just to THIS side of insanely divisive, and this deal isn't going to help that any.
Whether people like it or not, whether the deal goes on as planned or not, or whether this in any way violates GPL, the damage is unfortunately already done - and not necessarily because of any effects that may come out of the agreement. The real damage is that the very thought this agreement will cause Stallman to pretty much COMPLETELY lose it, in the flying-blind-in-the-land-of-batshit kind of way. I can't imagine his behavior will get more reasonable anyway, and with his credibility already stretched and the tensions already rife within the community, it doesn't bode well. Open infighting amongst the FOSS community is just what we need right now......
I build CNC and automation equipment, so I can pretty safely say that from what you describe this is a brain-squishingly trivial project. Probably one that can be done over lunch - After you spend five years climbing the learning curve, which is not at all trivial.
I would just ask someone who does do this for a living out for lunch, it'll take them ten minutes. I do this when I need coding done. The price of a few beers to get the occasional patch or script written is a lot more efficient than many years learning coding to do it myself the one time a year the need comes up.
The learning curve on automation hardware is at least as steep as learning Linux, and with crappier documentation. Coding guys usually seem to underestimate the complexity of the physical engineering and design side, and think they are always bright enough to just pick it up and do our jobs. There is more to hardware engineering than the butt-crack guy with a monkeywrench, just like there is more to coding than script kiddies.
In short - unless you want to go into this as a hobby or career change, just treat a hungry engineer to lunch and call it good. Even if you paid him it'd be less than the books you'd need.
altered mathematically to make unintellilligible? How exactly, then, do they tell what advertising, programs, and other media you are exposed to? Something here doesn't add up. Mainly, why in the hell would people agree to be carrying around an overt bugging device with the sole stated intent of monitoring thier actions?
Perhaps you can help with another vexing plurality question -
It is the proper term Jesuses, or Jesii?
Also is there any sort of special purpose collective noun for a group of them? (i.e. litter, flock, pod, etc?)
A Gaggle of Jesii?
Just wondering.
Not to sound like a troll, but meta-credibility does also work the opposite way;
anti-$ rag says that grassroots anti-$ os/app/whatever is "the best" and you will have an immediate knee-jerk reaction from the community defending it to the death and proudly installing it on thier boxes just to say they did, even if it takes several dozen man-hours to get it to do anything even marginally useful.
Dogma is probably even more dangerous and counterproductive than putting blind trust in some $corps marketing stooges, as hard as that is to comprehend.
Sorry, just watched six guys on laptops code and tweak for two hours failing to get the newest, hippest OS du jour to even recognize basic hardware.