Every time I read these types of articles, I feel like implementation cost is always ignored. Sure, maybe I get some extra compute for my dollar here, or some extra memory there, but how long did it take to integrate this solution using a given vendor's APIs and services? How easily can I script scale-up and scale-down policies? How effective are those scaling policies at actually saving me resources and money? I think this is kind of an old-fashioned way of calculating infrastructure pricing - it's more complex than just pricing out servers that happen to be somewhere else.
Major caveat, however - it's awfully tough to calculate some of those intangibles accurately enough to put in a whitepaper...
I understand having strong opinions about Mueller, but if you read his argument I think he is making a valid point in this case, which he backs up with the actual text of the bill (so it's probably not 100% inaccurate).
As commenter raymorris pointed out below, all this law states is that adding "on a computer" to a process doesn't automatically make it a new patent. It doesn't broadly and completely abolish software patents in general.
They do. Plenty of people do. The problem is that these EBS failures always propagate across availability zones no matter what Amazon says.
Do you have any evidence of this? Because I haven't seen any. And it sounds tin-foil-hat.
Because you have no hard experience of what multiple availability zones practically means in Amazon's infrastructure.
Actually, I run a load-balanced, redundant site on AWS. I ask the question because Multi-AZ (as defined by AWS) means geographically different, as in US West (in Oregon) vs US East (in Virginia) - NOT just the difference between US-East-1a,b,c,d (which Amazon makes very clear are in the same data center). That's why it's odd that Virginia's issues would affect Oregon (or any of the other AZs)
Try being helpful next time and answering the genuine question instead of smarting off because you can't get on reddit.
Multi AZ IS "completely geographically separate zones" and yes, you can specifically define which ones.
Amazon is very clear that US East 1a,b,c,d are all the same physical data center. However, West is not. It's in Oregon (as opposed to VA for East)
I've seen no evidence that true Multi AZ instances (as described by Amazon) are down. If you've got some though, I would be interested to see it because I would be pretty concerned.
An honest question, why don't these large, big-name sites utilize the Multi Availability Zone failover that Amazon offers?
It seems these AWS outages make for good headlines, but shouldn't any large site be co-located in multiple physical locations to ensure uptime?
If they WERE using Multi AZ, or there is some other technical reason why it wouldn't help, I'm really curious to know why...
Someone mentioned Scouting as an organization in America teaching these same skills.
I was a cub scout as a kid, never a full fledged Boy Scout, but I'm curious - is Boy Scouts of America the only such organization for this sort of thing?
I'm curious if there's a non-religious version. And yes, I think the Boy Scouts is basically an Evangelical organization.
this is exactly the sort of blind outrage the author is talking about. this isn't an apple issue. it's a smartphone issue.
here's the SAME THING for android:
https://github.com/packetlss/android-locdump
people need to stop the apple-rage and get the facts straight. nobody is immune to this issue.
Even if everyone here is grumpy and always wanting to argue, isn't this ultimately GOOD news? I think the point here is that the cost of solar is falling. Even if nuclear is currently cheaper as an end-to-end solution, cheap solar is a great trend. If solar energy continues to fall and become more competitive, I would certainly rather utilize that than worry about what to do with spent nuclear fuel, all things considered.
Ahh I was scanning this thread to make sure someone mentioned this! Child's Play is an awesome organization that really does a lot of good, and this is exactly the sort of donation they are looking for.
The above poster forgot the link:
www.childsplaycharity.org
The web site gives you all the details, including how to get a tax receipt, etc.
Brighten up a sick child's Christmas this year!
I once spent a summer at a folding table in the basement of a steel mill writing java code that needed to interface with a Sybase application server. On at least 3 occasions I witnessed a frog hop across the concrete floor from an external door toward the server room, then under that door.
Makes one question a lot of things.
Wow, I went to Bloomington once. I turned down a street and there it was: an URBAN OUTFITTERS! I thought to myself, wow, It's just like being in... NEW YORK CITY! Except it was different. Nobody was pretentious at all. In fact, you would never even think that everyone in the town had an unrealistic view of themselves or the town they lived in.
I sure hope people move in droves to Bloomington Indiana. Frankly, Bloomington and everyone who lives there are more cultured and open minded than, well, anyone else in America!
I think that I might just quit my job, drop what I'm doing, and sign up for art school at IU. Oh, and I might even start a band and join the local music "scene!" Then I'll probably start 5 tech companies, and take full advantage of the forward thinking community and all of its resources.
Thank God for Bloomington Indiana - the NEW YORK CITY OF THE MIDWEST!!!
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someone post a link to an actual video of this
Every time I read these types of articles, I feel like implementation cost is always ignored. Sure, maybe I get some extra compute for my dollar here, or some extra memory there, but how long did it take to integrate this solution using a given vendor's APIs and services? How easily can I script scale-up and scale-down policies? How effective are those scaling policies at actually saving me resources and money? I think this is kind of an old-fashioned way of calculating infrastructure pricing - it's more complex than just pricing out servers that happen to be somewhere else. Major caveat, however - it's awfully tough to calculate some of those intangibles accurately enough to put in a whitepaper...
I understand having strong opinions about Mueller, but if you read his argument I think he is making a valid point in this case, which he backs up with the actual text of the bill (so it's probably not 100% inaccurate). As commenter raymorris pointed out below, all this law states is that adding "on a computer" to a process doesn't automatically make it a new patent. It doesn't broadly and completely abolish software patents in general.
article title, and summary for that matter, are not exactly accurate. here's why (in great detail). http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/08/new-zealand-parliament-adopts-uk.html
They do. Plenty of people do. The problem is that these EBS failures always propagate across availability zones no matter what Amazon says.
Do you have any evidence of this? Because I haven't seen any. And it sounds tin-foil-hat.
Because you have no hard experience of what multiple availability zones practically means in Amazon's infrastructure.
Actually, I run a load-balanced, redundant site on AWS. I ask the question because Multi-AZ (as defined by AWS) means geographically different, as in US West (in Oregon) vs US East (in Virginia) - NOT just the difference between US-East-1a,b,c,d (which Amazon makes very clear are in the same data center). That's why it's odd that Virginia's issues would affect Oregon (or any of the other AZs) Try being helpful next time and answering the genuine question instead of smarting off because you can't get on reddit.
Multi AZ IS "completely geographically separate zones" and yes, you can specifically define which ones. Amazon is very clear that US East 1a,b,c,d are all the same physical data center. However, West is not. It's in Oregon (as opposed to VA for East) I've seen no evidence that true Multi AZ instances (as described by Amazon) are down. If you've got some though, I would be interested to see it because I would be pretty concerned.
how do you know it's a multi-az outage?
An honest question, why don't these large, big-name sites utilize the Multi Availability Zone failover that Amazon offers? It seems these AWS outages make for good headlines, but shouldn't any large site be co-located in multiple physical locations to ensure uptime? If they WERE using Multi AZ, or there is some other technical reason why it wouldn't help, I'm really curious to know why...
Someone mentioned Scouting as an organization in America teaching these same skills. I was a cub scout as a kid, never a full fledged Boy Scout, but I'm curious - is Boy Scouts of America the only such organization for this sort of thing? I'm curious if there's a non-religious version. And yes, I think the Boy Scouts is basically an Evangelical organization.
this is exactly the sort of blind outrage the author is talking about. this isn't an apple issue. it's a smartphone issue. here's the SAME THING for android: https://github.com/packetlss/android-locdump people need to stop the apple-rage and get the facts straight. nobody is immune to this issue.
actually, the latest rumor is that Gearbox (of Borderlands fame) is now going to finish DNF, so it will most likely be using Unreal Engine 3 :)
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/11/rumor-duke-nukem-forever-being-completed-by-gearbox/
Even if everyone here is grumpy and always wanting to argue, isn't this ultimately GOOD news? I think the point here is that the cost of solar is falling. Even if nuclear is currently cheaper as an end-to-end solution, cheap solar is a great trend. If solar energy continues to fall and become more competitive, I would certainly rather utilize that than worry about what to do with spent nuclear fuel, all things considered.
Ah yes, you're right. Spending $50 annually for XBox Live is outrageous. I'd rather spend $600 on a new video card every year.
Ahh I was scanning this thread to make sure someone mentioned this! Child's Play is an awesome organization that really does a lot of good, and this is exactly the sort of donation they are looking for. The above poster forgot the link: www.childsplaycharity.org The web site gives you all the details, including how to get a tax receipt, etc. Brighten up a sick child's Christmas this year!
I once spent a summer at a folding table in the basement of a steel mill writing java code that needed to interface with a Sybase application server. On at least 3 occasions I witnessed a frog hop across the concrete floor from an external door toward the server room, then under that door. Makes one question a lot of things.
the true choice of spammers for president is "penis"?
regardless, you should be modded down for actually typing "choosen" twice.
Wow, I went to Bloomington once. I turned down a street and there it was: an URBAN OUTFITTERS! I thought to myself, wow, It's just like being in ... NEW YORK CITY! Except it was different. Nobody was pretentious at all. In fact, you would never even think that everyone in the town had an unrealistic view of themselves or the town they lived in.
I sure hope people move in droves to Bloomington Indiana. Frankly, Bloomington and everyone who lives there are more cultured and open minded than, well, anyone else in America!
I think that I might just quit my job, drop what I'm doing, and sign up for art school at IU. Oh, and I might even start a band and join the local music "scene!" Then I'll probably start 5 tech companies, and take full advantage of the forward thinking community and all of its resources.
Thank God for Bloomington Indiana - the NEW YORK CITY OF THE MIDWEST!!!