... that most k-12 math teachers never left academia.
Most math teachers go directly from high school to university or a teaching college and go right back to k-12.
The ones that have seen the inside of a machine shop, the inside of a land-evidence vault, worked for a logistics firm, done bookeeping, been an actuary, or even looked through a theodolite, are few and far between. So even coming up with "real world scenarios" is next to impossible.
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BMO
Australian math/science teacher.
Work in a staffroom of 10 people.
1st person - PhD, ex-researcher. Small-craft air-plane pilot. Left research for teaching to spend more time with his teenage children.
2nd person - microbiologist who used to work in a public hospital lab identifying nasty bugs. Left for teaching because believe it or not, was less stressful and more rewarding.
3rd person - teaches, but also runs his own restaurant.
4th person - teaches but also donates her weekends to a community group.
5th person - teaches and runs her own fresh produce delivery company.
Me - worked at a warehouse to put myself through my education degree, raised on a dairy farm and helped my step-father build a house as a teen.
I love how people think that stereotypes are realistic descriptions of reality.
Hmmm. Straight off a coke label I found on the Internet:
carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, caramel color (man does it annoy me having to put the American spelling for colour down here), phosphoric acid, natural flavors (aaaaggghhhh), caffeine.
I don't think they're being forced to give out all that much information.
I've also met a couple of chefs who BEG for the recipe when you offer them something new and different.
Can we agree that a recipe is a starting point, rather than distaining them completely? "Oh, I'm a chef because I don't follow a recipe." Neither does my niece when she makes mud pies.
I can't remember which open-source cola recipe it was, but one of them basically strongly suggested that the caffeine was very optional and (paraphrased) " this much in this much syrup - but be careful because you accidently breathe this stuff in and you could die."
So, why would they object to.gay? They can block it for the same reason.
Maybe their objection in this case is not that they may be forced to see it, but the thought that other people might be enjoying it.:D
My viewpoint is that if they are really offended by this, they can just stop using the Internet!
It Thus to do something like this you need to assign one or more very capable senior students/postdoctoral workers, which costs money and time and takes away from original research.
As someone who gave up on research science in organic chemistry, due to the amount of faulty and incomplete synthesis procedures I encountered in the literature, not doing this costs money and time and takes away from original research. ("Oh yes. We've encountered difficulty getting a high yield in that step as well. We do this." "Um yeah, so why wasn't that in any of your published articles over the last four years?")
I understand and know the theory that you speak of. However, it does assume that the only attention that the bully/disruptor receives is from their victim/teacher. Don't work when the teen is getting attention from their peers or the world in general. There's a reason why toddlers throw their biggest tantrums in malls.
Yet again in my experience, groups of teens will seek to test adults. Each class that I have taught, I generally see the following steps:
1 day to 1 week - kids go gentle on you to see if you know your stuff.
Week 1-2 to 1 and 1/2 months - kids will test EVERY one of your rules. If you have no explicit rules, they will test EVERYTHING. Adolescents test to find out the boundaries - what are the REAL rules of your classroom? Are they consistent between students? Do you obey the same rules you set for them? You as a teacher also find out what your real rules are as well.:D If you don't stand up for yourself at this stage, it doesn't end - welcome to your first teaching year. Until you snap. If you're lucky, you snap the right way and throw a "temper tantrum" (note the quotes here - there's a real skill to throwing your 'nana.) that shocks the kids back into correct behaviour. "Oh, he expects to be treated as a person too." In your second teaching year you make DAMN sure to avoid this, by being quietly authoritarian for the first few months until the students get used to you.
After that, most students will respond to the method you mentioned. But students won't participate with you in an appropriate and social manner, until it's made very clear that you are part of the society as well.
As for encouraging freedom of speech, the best idea I've ever seen was in a school where the diary listed student, teacher and parent responsibilities FIRST, then rights. All rights come with their own set of responsibilities - freedom of speech comes with a responsibility to speak responsibly.
I also come down pretty strictly on students that play the "Definition Game" or the "Loophole Game". Responsible people understand that there is a difference between Legal and Moral.
...then again, this is slashdot where no grammatical error will not go unnoticed, all responses are trolls, and all opinions that are not exactly aligned to yours are surely the result of brainwashing and drinking amphetamine laden milk. And these things must be corrected immediately and with extreme prejudice.
No, the soultion for this sort of "harassing" is just learn to ignore people. That's it - that's the entire remedy.
Yeah. No.
As a high school teacher I can honestly say that this approach doesn't work with about 10% of teenagers (and some sociopathic adults) in a public forum. Especially if for some reason you can't leave that forum (I.e. it's your job.).
If a person is determined to get attention, and you ignore them, they will just keep looking for more and more offensive things to say, until they can get a response. Best to remind them of expectations of behaviour early, and the likely consequences of breaking those expectations. Then enforce.
Once you get past a certain point of offensiveness, and you don't respond, you're basically giving them permission to continue being offensive. Moreso if there's a certain implied anoymousness involved (Like on the Internet). Seen 4Chan recently?:D
I've seen this in practice on Instructables. Can't remember the particular Instructable involved but someone put a lot of effort into developing a new gadget that you could make for about $50.
Then about 8 months later, I saw the same type of gadget in a shop for $30, and this was after it was made in China, shipped, and then marked up to $30 as it's final price.
One of the things that has been advertised as a big benefit for autonomous cars IS that much higher speeds are permissible while remaining safe. Similarly, much closer following distances are possible without compromising safety.
...
There have been, for example, "auto trains" of multiple autonomous vehicles operating with ridiculously small separation distances on test tracks.
Hmmm, wonder what happens to these "auto trains" the instant a serious bug gets into the software. While it'd be nice to believe that auto manufacturers would test so well, guaranteed that at least one bug will get through.
X11 isn't really the problem; the X.Org Foundation is. They have stopped listening to both the application developers and the end users. They seem to have the same problems as the Firefox development team, a few people in controlling positions with stronger wills than brains.
And the same went for the Gimp team until about 3-4 years ago. I'm glad that they were able to get someone who was willing to restart work on GEGL, because I'm actually enjoying the latest gimp releases again.
My father used to drink 9-11 cups of coffee on average per day, and his glaucoma kicked in in his early 40's. My grandfather would drink 3-4 cups of tea at the most per day, and his glaucoma didn't kick in until his early 70's.
The funny this was, when I told my father this, and got him onto decaffinated coffee, it only took him 2 weeks to instinctively switch to tea. I then had to tell him that tea contains just as much caffeine as coffee.
I wonder how long it will take for the disinformation to be mistaken for real information by policy deciders. Mind you, probably won't make that much of a difference to most politicians anyway.
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... that most k-12 math teachers never left academia.
Most math teachers go directly from high school to university or a teaching college and go right back to k-12.
The ones that have seen the inside of a machine shop, the inside of a land-evidence vault, worked for a logistics firm, done bookeeping, been an actuary, or even looked through a theodolite, are few and far between. So even coming up with "real world scenarios" is next to impossible.
-- BMO
Australian math/science teacher.
Work in a staffroom of 10 people.
1st person - PhD, ex-researcher. Small-craft air-plane pilot. Left research for teaching to spend more time with his teenage children.
2nd person - microbiologist who used to work in a public hospital lab identifying nasty bugs. Left for teaching because believe it or not, was less stressful and more rewarding.
3rd person - teaches, but also runs his own restaurant.
4th person - teaches but also donates her weekends to a community group.
5th person - teaches and runs her own fresh produce delivery company.
Me - worked at a warehouse to put myself through my education degree, raised on a dairy farm and helped my step-father build a house as a teen.
I love how people think that stereotypes are realistic descriptions of reality.
I've been reliably informed by my wife that I know ONE Foster's drinker.
Fosters is the piss that we let leave the country. I've never met an Australian who drinks the stuff.
In Australia, all beer is referred to as piss. Budweiser is referred to as "What the #@$! is this #$!$ piss?"
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Hmmm. Straight off a coke label I found on the Internet:
carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, caramel color (man does it annoy me having to put the American spelling for colour down here), phosphoric acid, natural flavors (aaaaggghhhh), caffeine.
I don't think they're being forced to give out all that much information.
I've also met a couple of chefs who BEG for the recipe when you offer them something new and different. Can we agree that a recipe is a starting point, rather than distaining them completely? "Oh, I'm a chef because I don't follow a recipe." Neither does my niece when she makes mud pies.
I can't remember which open-source cola recipe it was, but one of them basically strongly suggested that the caffeine was very optional and (paraphrased) " this much in this much syrup - but be careful because you accidently breathe this stuff in and you could die."
We could use an already established (and probably cheaper) technology - biogas generators to run gas turbines.
Erik Flint on the Baen Free Library is a pretty good read as well.
So, why would they object to .gay? They can block it for the same reason.
Maybe their objection in this case is not that they may be forced to see it, but the thought that other people might be enjoying it. :D
My viewpoint is that if they are really offended by this, they can just stop using the Internet!
It Thus to do something like this you need to assign one or more very capable senior students/postdoctoral workers, which costs money and time and takes away from original research.
As someone who gave up on research science in organic chemistry, due to the amount of faulty and incomplete synthesis procedures I encountered in the literature, not doing this costs money and time and takes away from original research. ("Oh yes. We've encountered difficulty getting a high yield in that step as well. We do this." "Um yeah, so why wasn't that in any of your published articles over the last four years?")
Didn't stop the Australian Government adopting it as their standard word format for all government departments. :/
And what distinguishes a sociopath from a normal human? The primary characteristic seems to be opportunity.
Sounds like something a sociopath would say. :P
I understand and know the theory that you speak of. However, it does assume that the only attention that the bully/disruptor receives is from their victim/teacher. Don't work when the teen is getting attention from their peers or the world in general. There's a reason why toddlers throw their biggest tantrums in malls.
Yet again in my experience, groups of teens will seek to test adults. Each class that I have taught, I generally see the following steps:
If you don't stand up for yourself at this stage, it doesn't end - welcome to your first teaching year. Until you snap.
If you're lucky, you snap the right way and throw a "temper tantrum" (note the quotes here - there's a real skill to throwing your 'nana.) that shocks the kids back into correct behaviour. "Oh, he expects to be treated as a person too." In your second teaching year you make DAMN sure to avoid this, by being quietly authoritarian for the first few months until the students get used to you.
As for encouraging freedom of speech, the best idea I've ever seen was in a school where the diary listed student, teacher and parent responsibilities FIRST, then rights. All rights come with their own set of responsibilities - freedom of speech comes with a responsibility to speak responsibly.
I also come down pretty strictly on students that play the "Definition Game" or the "Loophole Game". Responsible people understand that there is a difference between Legal and Moral.
...then again, this is slashdot where no grammatical error will not go unnoticed, all responses are trolls, and all opinions that are not exactly aligned to yours are surely the result of brainwashing and drinking amphetamine laden milk. And these things must be corrected immediately and with extreme prejudice.
Hah! Made my day.
Damn my spelling! Anonymousness! You can never have enough n's.
No, the soultion for this sort of "harassing" is just learn to ignore people. That's it - that's the entire remedy.
Yeah. No.
As a high school teacher I can honestly say that this approach doesn't work with about 10% of teenagers (and some sociopathic adults) in a public forum. Especially if for some reason you can't leave that forum (I.e. it's your job.).
If a person is determined to get attention, and you ignore them, they will just keep looking for more and more offensive things to say, until they can get a response. Best to remind them of expectations of behaviour early, and the likely consequences of breaking those expectations. Then enforce.
Once you get past a certain point of offensiveness, and you don't respond, you're basically giving them permission to continue being offensive. Moreso if there's a certain implied anoymousness involved (Like on the Internet). Seen 4Chan recently? :D
I've seen this in practice on Instructables. Can't remember the particular Instructable involved but someone put a lot of effort into developing a new gadget that you could make for about $50. Then about 8 months later, I saw the same type of gadget in a shop for $30, and this was after it was made in China, shipped, and then marked up to $30 as it's final price.
Including the pink elephants. :D
I had a pushbike as a kid. Every time I crashed it, it was rarely planned, and very often unintelligent.
One of the things that has been advertised as a big benefit for autonomous cars IS that much higher speeds are permissible while remaining safe. Similarly, much closer following distances are possible without compromising safety.
...
There have been, for example, "auto trains" of multiple autonomous vehicles operating with ridiculously small separation distances on test tracks.
Hmmm, wonder what happens to these "auto trains" the instant a serious bug gets into the software. While it'd be nice to believe that auto manufacturers would test so well, guaranteed that at least one bug will get through.
X11 isn't really the problem; the X.Org Foundation is. They have stopped listening to both the application developers and the end users. They seem to have the same problems as the Firefox development team, a few people in controlling positions with stronger wills than brains.
And the same went for the Gimp team until about 3-4 years ago. I'm glad that they were able to get someone who was willing to restart work on GEGL, because I'm actually enjoying the latest gimp releases again.
There is nothing whatever wrong with coffee.
Unless you have a family history/susceptibility to glaucoma.
http://www.glaucomanet.org/2012/01/coffee-and-glaucoma/
My father used to drink 9-11 cups of coffee on average per day, and his glaucoma kicked in in his early 40's. My grandfather would drink 3-4 cups of tea at the most per day, and his glaucoma didn't kick in until his early 70's.
The funny this was, when I told my father this, and got him onto decaffinated coffee, it only took him 2 weeks to instinctively switch to tea. I then had to tell him that tea contains just as much caffeine as coffee.
I wonder how long it will take for the disinformation to be mistaken for real information by policy deciders. Mind you, probably won't make that much of a difference to most politicians anyway.