That may be correct, but the dictionary definition of monopoly is irrelevant here. A judge has found MS to be a monopoly, therefore microsoft IS a monopoly (in the eyes of the law) until that finding is overturned.
I have serious doubts that Apple will ever port it's OS to anything other than Apple hardware. It seems to me that this is a thinly disguised threat aimed at Motorola. Motorola is taking way too long (in Apple's opinion) to get the G4s up to full speed, so Apple is threatening to move it's systems to another platform. In a few months, Motorola will have the bugs worked out of the G4s, and Apple will forget all about porting Darwin to Crusoe, x86, sparc, or whatever else they're supposedly "considering".
>Gtk and GNOME will own all the other pansy ass >inflexible non object based development toolkits >and environments. Like Motif, CDE, AND Qt.
Implying that Qt isn't object-oriented? It is. As for gtk "owning" it's a matter of opinion. I think it's butt-ugly without a pixmapped theme, and too slow with one. To each his(or her) own...
Oh please, as though Real is any better. Right now there are two standards in streaming media. Real and MS. Real has given us old versions (5.x) (thanks, but every decent site requires G2 these days), and one very buggy very, very alpha version of G2. What updates have they made to their Linux G2 player? none!!
If MS releases player, then Real will have competition. If they want Linux market-share, they'll have to do a little better than one bug-riddled alpha release. Then MS will have to raise it's standards, and in a few iterations we'll have the same or better quality players as the windows/mac crowd.
Either that, or this is a vaporware announcement, they'll never make a release, and Real will go back to pretending Linux doesn't exist. In other words, we'll be back to where we are now.
Maybe MS finally realized that the real money isn't in operating systems, it's in the applications. Porting to Mac/Solaris/OS2/Linux/BSD/BeOS is a good way to expand their apps market. Flame me if you want, but I'd use media player and office2k if they were out for Linux.
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More to the point, does his inaction on this constitute failure to defend his trademark? If some half-wit judge thinks so, he could lose control over the name Linux.
Bullshit I have the DeCSS source code right in front of me. It's so open, you can buy it on a friggin T-shirt. >you can thus only play movies if you have a big >chunk of empty drive space
And this is different from having to make free HD space to install Windows how?
>When blank writeable DVDs get down to $1/each, >convert your collection to DVD
THEN the MPAA can start claiming a crime has been committed, but just publiching code that breaks the encryption is constitutionally protected free speech, and reverse engineering the aglorithm is a basic right that comes with ownership of a DVD disc.
The article mentioned that Jon had been indicted. What crime is he charged with? Does Norway have some law as asinine as the DMCA? Is reverse engineering illegal there?
IIRC, A win95 system boots DOS, uses that to configure PnP devices and load the win95 system files (kernel32.dll, vmm32.vxd, etc). Then the win95 stuff takes over, pulls the system up into 32-bit mode and unloads DOS. DOS funcions like a bootloader for win95. However, the win95 kernel can still run command.com, so depending on your definition of DOS, win95 may be DOS or it may not.
As for not being based on legacy code, I have a hard time believing that MS would do a clean rewrite of all the DOS bits that were included into win95. They already had a functional command.com, why rewrite it instead of modifying the existing code?
Not really, some PCS/GSM/other digital phones are encrypted, but cellular is no more secure than a CB radio. That's why new(er) scanners have the cellular channels locked out.
Thats's precisely why I love windows so much! None of that pesky kernel updating. It's nice to know that if a bug is here today, it will be here tomorrow, and next week, and next year. It's good to know that FreeBSD has taken that step in the right direction. Maybe it will be as good as windows someday.
Since whan is lack of active development a feature?
flamers to full power Ok, dumbass. What I said was that Intel would have no incentive to spend money on making a faster processor if AMD was just going to crack open the chip and make their own die from it. AMD has to spend it's own millions to reverse-engineer the chip, which puts the two companies on an even footing.
>that's like saying Safeway has no incentive to >sell oranges because Smiths can No, it's like saying Safeway has no incentive to pay millions to invent a new fruit if smith's can just copy it cheaply and quickly.
>Michael Angelo Who? Seriously, though.. Michaelangelo is a piss poor example because art isn't patentable, it's not a commodity. cease flamage
>I wish those slashdotters out there who think >that patents are not all bad would just give it up.
engage flamers, 1/2 power Ok, moron, economics 101 is in session. Companies exist to make money. They do this by selling new, innovative products. Innovation costs money. If somebody else can copy that product as soon as it goes to market, they can sell their version at a lower price, because the copy cost far less to develop than the original. The consumers seek the lowest price for the product so they buy the immitation. The innovating company makes no money, and promptly goes bankrupt. Other companies see this, and decide that innovation is too risky. Technological progress halts.
The way to avoid this downward spiral is to grant companies patents on new and innovative products, to allow them to recoup their R&D costs. Patents should be granted for products not for ideas. That is the problem with patents right now; companies are patenting ideas, and obvious ones at that. (iirc, atari holds a patent on XOR'ing pixel values) Reform is necessary, but abolition of patents would be just plain stupid. Class dismissed stop flamers, secure from flaming
This is the mentality that keeps us from getting better multimedia players for linux. Apple, M$, et al. aren't going to release their codecs as open source. If they think all Linux users are rabid open-source zealots, we are never going to get decent video players. You don't see the quicktime source being released on other platforms, do you? Why should Linux get it if nobody else does?
The whole open-source text is better than proprietary video mentality has got to go.
Sure, you can solve the same problems on the HP, but only after you waste half the exam hour trying to figure out how to translate a definite integral into RPN.
Furthermore, your criticism of the TI are both unfounded. The 89, 92, and 92+ support directories, and you can have a variable (or function) in every one of them called "foo".
It's really nothing but a religious issue, like vi/emacs gnome/KDE or linux/BSD. I bow before TI, for it hath delivered me from failing. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of F, I shall fear no integral, for my TI-89 is with me...
Well technically since LPs are an analog(ue) medium, they have infinite information. And yes, vinyl on super high-quality hardware sounds better than MP3 or CD on super high-quality hardware, but most of us don't have the money to buy that quality gear. A bad CD player sounds better than a bad turntable.
IE on it's native platform (I used Win98) is flaming fast, about the same as netscape in the bugs department, and has full PNG suppport unlike netscape, which butchers the images or flings them off to an external viewer.
I hate to say it, but the Linux/netscape combination is less stable than IE and Win98. M$ may be evil, and they may make a slow, buggy, single-user OS, but they have a very good web browser.
That's not flamebait, it's what the defaced page said. Check out the mirror on attrition.org if you can't || won't believe him (or me). It's at the bottom of the page...
>The question then becomes if parents told their >children that death was wrong and vile. That >portraying it as a 'good' thing is wrong, would >said kids play Quake and doom?
Absolutely. As long as the kid is mature enough to seperate the fiction of blood and gore games on the screen from the reality of shooting people on the street, it's fine. (this is a parenting call, video game ratings are a placebo here) I learned from an early age that violence was wrong, and I still believe that acting out violently against living things is wrong, but I have no problem with wasting time in front of Qauke1/2/3/Unreal/whatever. The understanding of why violence is wrong comes from the ability to understand that when somebody gets "killed" in a movie or on TV, the actor gets up and goes home, but when somebody gets killed in real life, it's over. My bias: I come from an overprotective family, so I never really played (extremely) violent computer games 'till I went to college, and play Unreal Tournament (and Quake 3 when it comes out for Linux) avidly.
It's like a DoS attack, anyone who posted after the BUNG holes will likely never get read. I wonder if this is the end of/. as we know it
Probably, or at least the end of AC posting. After this Rob will (at the request of Andover) shut down ACs. About a week after that, he'll have to start revoking accounts (starting with grits boy).
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That may be correct, but the dictionary definition of monopoly is irrelevant here. A judge has found MS to be a monopoly, therefore microsoft IS a monopoly (in the eyes of the law) until that finding is overturned.
I have serious doubts that Apple will ever port it's OS to anything other than Apple hardware. It seems to me that this is a thinly disguised threat aimed at Motorola. Motorola is taking way too long (in Apple's opinion) to get the G4s up to full speed, so Apple is threatening to move it's systems to another platform. In a few months, Motorola will have the bugs worked out of the G4s, and Apple will forget all about porting Darwin to Crusoe, x86, sparc, or whatever else they're supposedly "considering".
If you use XMMS you need to add the leading http:// in front of the address.
>Gtk and GNOME will own all the other pansy ass
>inflexible non object based development toolkits
>and environments. Like Motif, CDE, AND Qt.
Implying that Qt isn't object-oriented? It is.
As for gtk "owning" it's a matter of opinion. I think it's butt-ugly without a pixmapped theme, and too slow with one. To each his(or her) own...
Oh please, as though Real is any better. Right now there are two standards in streaming media. Real and MS. Real has given us old versions (5.x) (thanks, but every decent site requires G2 these days), and one very buggy very, very alpha version of G2. What updates have they made to their Linux G2 player? none!!
If MS releases player, then Real will have competition. If they want Linux market-share, they'll have to do a little better than one bug-riddled alpha release. Then MS will have to raise it's standards, and in a few iterations we'll have the same or better quality players as the windows/mac crowd.
Either that, or this is a vaporware announcement, they'll never make a release, and Real will go back to pretending Linux doesn't exist. In other words, we'll be back to where we are now.
>Does anybody remember the name of Microsoft's
>Unix, that was released either late 70's or early 80's?
Xenix
Maybe MS finally realized that the real money isn't in operating systems, it's in the applications. Porting to Mac/Solaris/OS2/Linux/BSD/BeOS is a good way to expand their apps market. Flame me if you want, but I'd use media player and office2k if they were out for Linux.
More to the point, does his inaction on this constitute failure to defend his trademark? If some half-wit judge thinks so, he could lose control over the name Linux.
Where can you buy this T-shirt?
at Copyleft, of course
>DeCSS was released in binary-only form
Bullshit I have the DeCSS source code right in front of me. It's so open, you can buy it on a friggin T-shirt.
>you can thus only play movies if you have a big
>chunk of empty drive space
And this is different from having to make free HD space to install Windows how?
>When blank writeable DVDs get down to $1/each,
>convert your collection to DVD
THEN the MPAA can start claiming a crime has been committed, but just publiching code that breaks the encryption is constitutionally protected free speech, and reverse engineering the aglorithm is a basic right that comes with ownership of a DVD disc.
The article mentioned that Jon had been indicted. What crime is he charged with? Does Norway have some law as asinine as the DMCA? Is reverse engineering illegal there?
IIRC, A win95 system boots DOS, uses that to configure PnP devices and load the win95 system files (kernel32.dll, vmm32.vxd, etc). Then the win95 stuff takes over, pulls the system up into 32-bit mode and unloads DOS. DOS funcions like a bootloader for win95. However, the win95 kernel can still run command.com, so depending on your definition of DOS, win95 may be DOS or it may not.
As for not being based on legacy code, I have a hard time believing that MS would do a clean rewrite of all the DOS bits that were included into win95. They already had a functional command.com, why rewrite it instead of modifying the existing code?
>As far as I know, cell phone comms are encrypted
Not really, some PCS/GSM/other digital phones are encrypted, but cellular is no more secure than a CB radio. That's why new(er) scanners have the cellular channels locked out.
>The above block of text could go into Data
>Processing dictionaries as a textbook example
>of FUD.
But on slashdot it'll go up to +5 as a textbook example of MS-bashing
Thats's precisely why I love windows so much! None of that pesky kernel updating. It's nice to know that if a bug is here today, it will be here tomorrow, and next week, and next year. It's good to know that FreeBSD has taken that step in the right direction. Maybe it will be as good as windows someday.
Since whan is lack of active development a feature?
flamers to full power
Ok, dumbass. What I said was that Intel would have no incentive to spend money on making a faster processor if AMD was just going to crack open the chip and make their own die from it. AMD has to spend it's own millions to reverse-engineer the chip, which puts the two companies on an even footing.
>that's like saying Safeway has no incentive to
>sell oranges because Smiths can
No, it's like saying Safeway has no incentive to pay millions to invent a new fruit if smith's can just copy it cheaply and quickly.
>Michael Angelo
Who?
Seriously, though.. Michaelangelo is a piss poor example because art isn't patentable, it's not a commodity.
cease flamage
>I wish those slashdotters out there who think
>that patents are not all bad would just give it up.
engage flamers, 1/2 power
Ok, moron, economics 101 is in session.
Companies exist to make money. They do this by selling new, innovative products. Innovation costs money. If somebody else can copy that product as soon as it goes to market, they can sell their version at a lower price, because the copy cost far less to develop than the original. The consumers seek the lowest price for the product so they buy the immitation. The innovating company makes no money, and promptly goes bankrupt. Other companies see this, and decide that innovation is too risky. Technological progress halts.
The way to avoid this downward spiral is to grant companies patents on new and innovative products, to allow them to recoup their R&D costs. Patents should be granted for products not for ideas. That is the problem with patents right now; companies are patenting ideas, and obvious ones at that. (iirc, atari holds a patent on XOR'ing pixel values) Reform is necessary, but abolition of patents would be just plain stupid.
Class dismissed
stop flamers, secure from flaming
This is the mentality that keeps us from getting better multimedia players for linux. Apple, M$, et al. aren't going to release their codecs as open source. If they think all Linux users are rabid open-source zealots, we are never going to get decent video players. You don't see the quicktime source being released on other platforms, do you? Why should Linux get it if nobody else does?
The whole open-source text is better than proprietary video mentality has got to go.
TI:HP::Sextant & compass:GPS
Sure, you can solve the same problems on the HP, but only after you waste half the exam hour trying to figure out how to translate a definite integral into RPN.
Furthermore, your criticism of the TI are both unfounded. The 89, 92, and 92+ support directories, and you can have a variable (or function) in every one of them called "foo".
It's really nothing but a religious issue, like vi/emacs gnome/KDE or linux/BSD. I bow before TI, for it hath delivered me from failing. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of F, I shall fear no integral, for my TI-89 is with me...
> LP have 1000 times as mutch info
Well technically since LPs are an analog(ue) medium, they have infinite information. And yes, vinyl on super high-quality hardware sounds better than MP3 or CD on super high-quality hardware, but most of us don't have the money to buy that quality gear. A bad CD player sounds better than a bad turntable.
Bull.
IE on it's native platform (I used Win98) is flaming fast, about the same as netscape in the bugs department, and has full PNG suppport unlike netscape, which butchers the images or flings them off to an external viewer.
I hate to say it, but the Linux/netscape combination is less stable than IE and Win98.
M$ may be evil, and they may make a slow, buggy, single-user OS, but they have a very good web browser.
Rob, lose that nasty puke-yellow and maroon color scheme!! The old green and grey was great. Leave it alone.
That's not flamebait, it's what the defaced page said. Check out the mirror on attrition .org if you can't || won't believe him (or me). It's at the bottom of the page...
>The question then becomes if parents told their
>children that death was wrong and vile. That
>portraying it as a 'good' thing is wrong, would
>said kids play Quake and doom?
Absolutely. As long as the kid is mature enough to seperate the fiction of blood and gore games on the screen from the reality of shooting people on the street, it's fine. (this is a parenting call, video game ratings are a placebo here) I learned from an early age that violence was wrong, and I still believe that acting out violently against living things is wrong, but I have no problem with wasting time in front of Qauke1/2/3/Unreal/whatever. The understanding of why violence is wrong comes from the ability to understand that when somebody gets "killed" in a movie or on TV, the actor gets up and goes home, but when somebody gets killed in real life, it's over.
My bias: I come from an overprotective family, so I never really played (extremely) violent computer games 'till I went to college, and play Unreal Tournament (and Quake 3 when it comes out for Linux) avidly.
It's like a DoS attack, anyone who posted after the BUNG holes will likely never get read.
/. as we know it
I wonder if this is the end of
Probably, or at least the end of AC posting. After this Rob will (at the request of Andover) shut down ACs. About a week after that, he'll have to start revoking accounts (starting with grits boy).
Either that, or start having REAL moderation.