>First, science has a built in peer review >process. To open this issue up to public debate >is wrong.
Science doesn't happen in a bubble. Eventually the rest of the world has to deal with the consequences. Why is it "wrong" to debate the ethics of creating new life? >Second, public opinion based on ignorance is >utterly worthless.
Agreed, it is worthless, but this isn't up for a vote. They're asking philosophers, not Jerry Springer. >Finally, this is not a religious issue
If you think there is any issue that isn't "a religious issue" to somebody, you're nuts. It's all a moot point anyway, because science will go on, with or without the approval of the religious types. >to the person who claims that this is just a >dialog and not approval, you are very naive
If you think a few naysayers can stop the march of science, you're very naive. Just ask Einstein how many scientists consider the consequences of their work.
No. AOL owns the servers. The users are allowed to use the client to connect to (enter) the servers.
Think of it like this. AOL gives users a key to get into their house. MS starts making similar keys that will also open AOL's house, and taking credit for all the nifty stuff in AOL's house as MS's. AOL comes home the next day and finds hordes of MS users in his house, drinking his beer, eating his food, and taking too long in the bathroom. This pisses off AOL, becase he only invited his friends over, not all of MS's friends. So in the end, AOL changes the locks on his doors so that the keys he gives out work, but the keys MS makes don't. Where is the injustice in that?
Oops, I apologise for my rotten spelling above. I guess thats what the "preview" button is for, huh... posting logged in because the previous poster was brave enough to as well.
I did a little experiment a few months ago. I flamed the same posts with the same basic arguments, once logged in, and once as an AC. The logged-in posts either went up or got left alone, and all the AC posts got put down to -1.
Because then "blinded by the oncoming headlights" wouldn't just be a metaphor. Most of the military stuff works by amplifying the light, not by "seeing" IR radiation. If you point one of those at a car headlight, you'll destroy the tube (and possibly your retinas as well)
The moderation here is screwed up, and everyone knows it. We are sick of seeing your posts moderated up to +4 or better just for pandering to the prejudices of the moderators. We know that the way to get points is to extoll the virtues of Linux, bash Microsoft, and flam Mac users. That's not the point of a comments page. It's for posting your opinion not for sucking up to the moderators.
You abuse the system. It's as much the moderators' fault as yours, but since the moderators are anonymouse, there's no way to flame them, and thus you get to bear the brunt of our frustration. But then, what did you expect for selling yourself out to gain slashdot karma?
>you can also start to work with the program. >You see them fulfilling the promises they made
X-free has released one (count 'em, one!) pre-4.0 snapshot so far. How many betas has win-2k released so far?
My main gripe, though, is that X-free releases so infrequently, and has such a small and exclusive developer cadre that it's not really open-source. Source code is released, but the "official" releases are so infrequent that the code available to the weekend bug-fixer has little relation to the code in active development. IMHO, that prevents large-scale collaborative development, and that's defeating the purpose of open source.
>Even now, I think that there are crimes that are >worthy of execution. However I do not trust ANY >government with the responsibility of killing its >citizens.
Then who, pray tell is supposed to carry out these executions you favor? Are we supposed to regress to a citizen's posse/lynch mob style of vigilante justice, or just strip the condemned of his citizenship?
Celron is similar to Celerity, which anyone who plays Whit Wolf's Vampire RPGs knows is a kick-ass skill that allows you to take more turns than other characters. IOW, it's the ability to overclock your character, much like you can overclock the Celeron. Makes sense to me.
I dont think he meant knowledge and technology. We have a finite number of trees, a finite amount of oil and coal, a finite amount of iron, aluminum, titanium, and uranium. Hell even the amount of solar energy hitting the earth in a given day is finite (huge, but finite).
Corporatins exist for the sole purpose of making money. If strip-mining, dumping waste in the empty lot behind the factory, and paying the workers $0.50 a day is allowed, what is their motivation for them to do otherwise?
If a company is looking for a place to relocate, are they going to pick Nation A, where the minimum wage is $6.50/hour, and there are strict environmental regulations, or Country B, where there are no environmental regulations, low taxes, no worker safety regulations and no minimum wage?
If the WTO's goals come to fruition, the US will be faced with a stark decision: lower wages and taxes, loosen environmental and safety regulations, or face the fact that the vast majority of manufaturing jobs will move overseas.
Let me tell you a little story about the toy that the government calls a "tank". They have thousands of 'em. You have none. These so-called "tanks" have steel armor that your gun can't penetrate, a cannon capable of leveling buildings with a single shot, and room inside for 4 or 5 jack-booted minions of the oppressor. Your bullets will make a nice musical tinkle riccocheting off the hull of the tank, until they decide that a pathetic, lone man with a gun isn't even worth opening the hatch to mow you down with the machinegun, and run you over. Viva la resistance!
Price? what's the price of losing user base because Linux has a shitty browser? I would rather see IE on Linux trounce Netscape than see any Linux users go back to Windows because Windows has a funtional browser.
What about distributing "key" files? If you give each user an encrypted, signed file holding their user info, and require them to upload that file at every login, you would have a pretty good security model.
A cracker would have to know a username, a password, and have access to the user's key file to gain access. That would be more secure than a simple username/password setup. If the entire transaction (including the transfer of the key file) is done via secure HTTP, it should be very difficult to gain unauthorized access to the system without having physical access to the user's computer.
IANAL, but I remember hearing about a case involving people modifying satellite TV recievers to pick up the "pay" channels for free. The satellite company lost in court. The ruling said that any radio waves that beam down on your property are your to do with as you will. That seems to say that TEMPEST monitoring is legal as long as you are on your own property (and public property, too, maybe).
You were disappointed by the 3D performance of the Mach64? Maybe that's because it's a 2D *ONLY* card. Any 3D stuff you run on a Mach64 is rendered in software.
And speaking of the "only works with bundled titles" effect, how many games support hardware T&L? Methinks that very few game companies are going to completely rewrite their engine for a single card. The only way I see this taking off is if M$FT decides to support hardware T&L in DirectX. Sad but true.
I sang those in grade school too (of course nobody actually shot the teacers then...) Here's a few more... to the tune of "Deck the Halls"
Deck the halls with kerosene fa la la la laaa la la la la Strike a match and watch it gleam fa la la la laaa la la la la See the schoolhouse burn to ashes fa la la la la la laa la la Aren't you glad you play with matches fa la la la laaa la la la la
Or maybe this one: (to the tune of "battle hymn of the republic")
Glory glory haleluja Teacher hit me with a ruler Hid behind her door With a magnum fourty-four Now there ain't no school no more
>alot of these people claim that windows is >unstable after f**king up their machines >for years
Very true, but a lot of us *like* fscking up the machine. I whined about windows with the best of 'em. Between Netscape 4.x, Network Neighborhood, Quake, and the LiteStep shell replacement, I had Win95 blue-screening about 3 times a day. Windows may be good enough in a business environment, if you push it too hard (like games and multimedia apps tend to do) things get ugly. Linux doesn't do that. Furthermore, Linux apps are sometimes unstable, but when they do crash, they tend to limit the damage they cause. It's rare for any Linux app to lock up well enough to require the 120 reset, like Windows crashes sometimes do.
I'm not saying that all Linux is unconditionally more stable that all Windows, I'm saying it works better for me.
I realize this thread is about RealJukebox, not RealPlayer, but what alternatives are there to RealPlayer for Linux streaming video/audio? It seems to me that there are 2 formats for streaming video; Windows media and Real. If we find both Real and MS to be unacceptable for political and/or privacy reasons, what other formats are there?
Also, call me paranoid, but Real and the RIAA have been too close in the past for me to brush this theory aside. What if the real reason behind the collection of all this data is to trace pirated MP3s made with Jukebox back to their source? Scenario: The RIAA downloads an MP3, finds that it was encoded with Jukebox, and "asks" Real to search through their records on that particular song, bitrate, sample freq, file date and track the file back to it's source computer. It could happen, much like the global ID in Word97 documents being used to track down the source of the Melissa virus.
>No! I'm already too affected by karma, sometimes >too willing to post stupid comments that I >suspect the moderators will like it, or >reluctant to be honest on some controversial subjects
But that's precisely the reason for the "Post Anonymously" box. If you think that you'll get moderated into oblivion, post from cowardly anonymity.
On another topic, how much Karma do you need to start out posting at score=2?
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>First, science has a built in peer review
>process. To open this issue up to public debate
>is wrong.
Science doesn't happen in a bubble. Eventually the rest of the world has to deal with the consequences. Why is it "wrong" to debate the ethics of creating new life?
>Second, public opinion based on ignorance is >utterly worthless.
Agreed, it is worthless, but this isn't up for a vote. They're asking philosophers, not Jerry Springer.
>Finally, this is not a religious issue
If you think there is any issue that isn't "a religious issue" to somebody, you're nuts.
It's all a moot point anyway, because science will go on, with or without the approval of the religious types.
>to the person who claims that this is just a
>dialog and not approval, you are very naive
If you think a few naysayers can stop the march of science, you're very naive. Just ask Einstein how many scientists consider the consequences of their work.
No. AOL owns the servers. The users are allowed to use the client to connect to (enter) the servers.
Think of it like this. AOL gives users a key to get into their house. MS starts making similar keys that will also open AOL's house, and taking credit for all the nifty stuff in AOL's house as MS's. AOL comes home the next day and finds hordes of MS users in his house, drinking his beer, eating his food, and taking too long in the bathroom. This pisses off AOL, becase he only invited his friends over, not all of MS's friends. So in the end, AOL changes the locks on his doors so that the keys he gives out work, but the keys MS makes don't. Where is the injustice in that?
Oops, I apologise for my rotten spelling above. I guess thats what the "preview" button is for, huh...
posting logged in because the previous poster was brave enough to as well.
I did a little experiment a few months ago. I flamed the same posts with the same basic arguments, once logged in, and once as an AC. The logged-in posts either went up or got left alone, and all the AC posts got put down to -1.
Because then "blinded by the oncoming headlights" wouldn't just be a metaphor. Most of the military stuff works by amplifying the light, not by "seeing" IR radiation. If you point one of those at a car headlight, you'll destroy the tube (and possibly your retinas as well)
(score: -1, using the words "karma whore")
Get over yourself Signal_11.
The moderation here is screwed up, and everyone knows it. We are sick of seeing your posts moderated up to +4 or better just for pandering to the prejudices of the moderators. We know that the way to get points is to extoll the virtues of Linux, bash Microsoft, and flam Mac users. That's not the point of a comments page. It's for posting your opinion not for sucking up to the moderators.
You abuse the system. It's as much the moderators' fault as yours, but since the moderators are anonymouse, there's no way to flame them, and thus you get to bear the brunt of our frustration. But then, what did you expect for selling yourself out to gain slashdot karma?
>you can also start to work with the program.
>You see them fulfilling the promises they made
X-free has released one (count 'em, one!) pre-4.0 snapshot so far. How many betas has win-2k released so far?
My main gripe, though, is that X-free releases so infrequently, and has such a small and exclusive developer cadre that it's not really open-source. Source code is released, but the "official" releases are so infrequent that the code available to the weekend bug-fixer has little relation to the code in active development. IMHO, that prevents large-scale collaborative development, and that's defeating the purpose of open source.
>Even now, I think that there are crimes that are
>worthy of execution. However I do not trust ANY
>government with the responsibility of killing its
>citizens.
Then who, pray tell is supposed to carry out these executions you favor? Are we supposed to regress to a citizen's posse/lynch mob style of vigilante justice, or just strip the condemned of his citizenship?
IIRC = if I recall correctly
Yeah, and this thread is gonna screw up meta-moderation in about a week.
"What sort of a f***in moron scored FIRST POST!!! up?"
*clicking the "unfair" button*
FUD this. I let the facts speak for themselves.
[will@darkstar log]$ cat dmesg | grep POSIX
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
That would imply to me that Linux was tested and found POSIX compliant...
My OS was posix compliant out of the box, without extra add-ons to buy and install.
Celron is similar to Celerity, which anyone who plays Whit Wolf's Vampire RPGs knows is a kick-ass skill that allows you to take more turns than other characters. IOW, it's the ability to overclock your character, much like you can overclock the Celeron. Makes sense to me.
I dont think he meant knowledge and technology. We have a finite number of trees, a finite amount of oil and coal, a finite amount of iron, aluminum, titanium, and uranium. Hell even the amount of solar energy hitting the earth in a given day is finite (huge, but finite).
Corporatins exist for the sole purpose of making money. If strip-mining, dumping waste in the empty lot behind the factory, and paying the workers $0.50 a day is allowed, what is their motivation for them to do otherwise?
If a company is looking for a place to relocate, are they going to pick Nation A, where the minimum wage is $6.50/hour, and there are strict environmental regulations, or Country B, where there are no environmental regulations, low taxes, no worker safety regulations and no minimum wage?
If the WTO's goals come to fruition, the US will be faced with a stark decision: lower wages and taxes, loosen environmental and safety regulations, or face the fact that the vast majority of manufaturing jobs will move overseas.
Score: -1 rehashing a tired joke
Are those metric or US basketballs?
>get a gun and arm yourself.
Let me tell you a little story about the toy that the government calls a "tank". They have thousands of 'em. You have none. These so-called "tanks" have steel armor that your gun can't penetrate, a cannon capable of leveling buildings with a single shot, and room inside for 4 or 5 jack-booted minions of the oppressor. Your bullets will make a nice musical tinkle riccocheting off the hull of the tank, until they decide that a pathetic, lone man with a gun isn't even worth opening the hatch to mow you down with the machinegun, and run you over.
Viva la resistance!
If you **READ THE ARTICLE** you would know that this kind of database already exists in the USA.
Fat lot of good your guns did us....
-1, URLs that are not links
We need another moderation category
Price? what's the price of losing user base because Linux has a shitty browser? I would rather see IE on Linux trounce Netscape than see any Linux users go back to Windows because Windows has a funtional browser.
What about distributing "key" files? If you give each user an encrypted, signed file holding their user info, and require them to upload that file at every login, you would have a pretty good security model.
A cracker would have to know a username, a password, and have access to the user's key file to gain access. That would be more secure than a simple username/password setup. If the entire transaction (including the transfer of the key file) is done via secure HTTP, it should be very difficult to gain unauthorized access to the system without having physical access to the user's computer.
IANAL, but I remember hearing about a case involving people modifying satellite TV recievers to pick up the "pay" channels for free. The satellite company lost in court. The ruling said that any radio waves that beam down on your property are your to do with as you will. That seems to say that TEMPEST monitoring is legal as long as you are on your own property (and public property, too, maybe).
You were disappointed by the 3D performance of the Mach64? Maybe that's because it's a 2D *ONLY* card. Any 3D stuff you run on a Mach64 is rendered in software.
And speaking of the "only works with bundled titles" effect, how many games support hardware T&L? Methinks that very few game companies are going to completely rewrite their engine for a single card. The only way I see this taking off is if M$FT decides to support hardware T&L in DirectX. Sad but true.
Here's a few more...
to the tune of "Deck the Halls"
Or maybe this one:
(to the tune of "battle hymn of the republic")
It's a miracle I'm not in prison now, huh.
>alot of these people claim that windows is
>unstable after f**king up their machines
>for years
Very true, but a lot of us *like* fscking up the machine. I whined about windows with the best of 'em. Between Netscape 4.x, Network Neighborhood, Quake, and the LiteStep shell replacement, I had Win95 blue-screening about 3 times a day. Windows may be good enough in a business environment, if you push it too hard (like games and multimedia apps tend to do) things get ugly. Linux doesn't do that. Furthermore, Linux apps are sometimes unstable, but when they do crash, they tend to limit the damage they cause. It's rare for any Linux app to lock up well enough to require the 120 reset, like Windows crashes sometimes do.
I'm not saying that all Linux is unconditionally more stable that all Windows, I'm saying it works better for me.
A little offtopic, I apologize...
I realize this thread is about RealJukebox, not RealPlayer, but what alternatives are there to RealPlayer for Linux streaming video/audio? It seems to me that there are 2 formats for streaming video; Windows media and Real. If we find both Real and MS to be unacceptable for political and/or privacy reasons, what other formats are there?
Also, call me paranoid, but Real and the RIAA have been too close in the past for me to brush this theory aside. What if the real reason behind the collection of all this data is to trace pirated MP3s made with Jukebox back to their source? Scenario: The RIAA downloads an MP3, finds that it was encoded with Jukebox, and "asks" Real to search through their records on that particular song, bitrate, sample freq, file date and track the file back to it's source computer. It could happen, much like the global ID in Word97 documents being used to track down the source of the Melissa virus.
nyet, comrade
PNG support in M10 is terrible. PNGs render inline, but slowly. Alpha seems to be binary instead of 8 bits, and gamma is ignored completely.
>No! I'm already too affected by karma, sometimes
>too willing to post stupid comments that I
>suspect the moderators will like it, or
>reluctant to be honest on some controversial subjects
But that's precisely the reason for the "Post Anonymously" box. If you think that you'll get moderated into oblivion, post from cowardly anonymity.
On another topic, how much Karma do you need to start out posting at score=2?