All the linux distributions I have used so far (SuSE, Mandriva, PCLInuxos, Ubuntu), all, have Numpy in their ready made packages. All you have to do is click to install it. To install SciPy, you download it, and run as installer. I don't know about matplotlib, but I suspect it as easy as SciPy. Thus, they are free.
But if you want to fund python related staff, then fine.
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fascist control freaks worse than Microsoft.
I thought I would never hear that something is worse that Microsoft. Sadly, I agree.
You could argue that one difference is that Visual Studio is available to anyone prepared to pay for it.
You may be right, as the poster does not give any details. However, if we are to believe the poster, the build scripts, which in the case of VS would be the project files, are not given, and this _is_ a violation of the GPL.
Simple, don't use code that is covered by the GPL in your product. It's exactly the same as any other copyright license
While I agree fully with the comment, I want to emphasize that the GPL license is a model copyright license, because it _lets_ the user really decide. If the user don't want to accept it, then they don't use the software and that's it. Nothing else to do.
On the other hand if you purchase a computer with Windows preinstalled, and _after_ that you purchased it you read the license, and don't agree, then what? Will you get your money back? We all know that this is seldom the case. It is also a lot of trouble for the obvious.
FYI, for the last 10 years or so, I have repeatedly asked my supplier, who is a friend of mine, to buy a laptop without windows. He always replied: not a chance, though he used more colorful words (on the other hand I have bought custom built desktops with SuSE).
Zubrin, suggested a manned vehicle going to Mars every 2 years, with much less cost (once the designs and the prototypes are finalized, something like soyuz). He suggested sustained human presence in Mars, where each crew lives on Mars for over a year, in habitats made on earth. IMO this is not "Apollo sort", quite the opposite.
The main purpose of the crew is to find ways to live off the land and as the crew are highly educated scientists and engineers, chances are that they will accomplish a lot.
Finally, after many years, a small community of habitats will have been established.
And no, you can't transfer billions or millions of people to Mars. But Zubrin's plan is a start, and after that, necessity is the mother of invention. And even a small community breeds.
Constellation didn't get us any closer to the above objectives than we are with the Space Shuttle, or Saturn V -- not a step forward in any sense
I tend to agree that Obama got that right. But this does not mean that human space exploration and colonization needs radical new propulsion systems that will always be 30 years from now. We can do this with existing technology. As for the specific impulse needed I refer you to the book of Zubrin, where he has a lengthy description and discussion of the various engines/fuel, including nuclear thermal rockets.
Colonization usually means running from religious or philosophical persecution.
Any kind of persecution. Zubrin, in the Case for Mars, claims that democracy and advancement (technological, society) happens when there is expansion; when there is possibility to go somewhere else if things get bad. It is an interesting read and I recommend it.
For example, as it has been said often in slashdot, linked lists are patented. With America pressing the world for ridiculous intellectual rights, extended to infinity, where will you go to escape this?
Necessity is the mother of invention, and the invention of a Mars habitat, IMO, will certainly give new ideas on earth (there is no way to destroy Mars habitat; you can't destroy it if it does not exist).
What makes anyone think that subsequent out-migration to habitable planets will work, when we can't get this one right?
It is my belief that it is the other way round. It is when we learn to cope with another planet (Mars?) that we will bring the knowledge back to cope with earth.
If Europeans hadn't colonized America, until they solved their problems here (in Europe), we would still be in the dark ages.
Colonization of other worlds is clearly impossible without manned flight.
Colonization of other worlds (which ones did you have in mind, by the way?) is clearly impossible without technologies that don't exist on Earth right now and won't exist for at least another few decades. Spending many billions of dollars on chemical rockets isn't going to get the job done.
Microsoft used it once to track down a virus writer. You may remember that case. But what it boils down to is that Office "called home" and reported to Microsoft what this person's GUID was. And Microsoft looked it up in their database to find the person who originally authored a Word macro virus.
This is false - though typical Slashdotist - anti-Microsoft hysteria.
Please slashdot moderators. Enlighten me why is the parent informative, but not the grandparent?
I looked at the link that you mention, and I found out that the folks there gave a solution. Use GIMP to rotate the image and insert to your word processor.
Sometimes I need to rotate some images 32.2365 grad (not degrees, gradians). It is trivial to convert between degrees and grad. Does/should MSOffice do this? (I confess I have no idea. I 've been using OpenOffice, and StarOffice before it, since 2000 - or was it 1999?).
Because GIMP is free to use, you are not forced to buy additional software to do a rotation. And if you used a Linux distribution, the odds are that GIMP would already be installed. And chances are, that you are able to do better job to an image with GIMP.
But if this is trouble to you (it really isn't; my 7 years old son does it routinely to print photos), continue to use (and pay for) Microsoft Office.
That's easy. When a star goes nova, it does nucleosynthesis, which means that carbon (and lithium and oxygen etc) are synthesized by helium, which has been synthesized by hydrogen.
Now, Sun is third or fourth generation star, which means that it is made of leftovers of other stars which have gone nova (or supernova). Part of the staff of other stars was carbon.
As Carl Sagan used to say, our bodies are made by star dust.
Simply put: why is it that we assume an "advanced" civilization means that it is militarily advanced and not ethically advanced?
We don't know. Besides, what if the aliens think that the "ethical" thing is to spread their "real" life in the galaxy? (wiping us out).
I grew up hearing that advanced civilization "has" to be ethically advanced and I am sick of it. What if they are not? What if they are automata? What if they don't consider us intelligent, sentient or even alive? A million what ifs. The aliens are alien. We must be prepared for everything. If they are ethical as we understand it, then all the better. But if not, we must be prepared, for example by colonizing Mars.
Seriously now. You expect all the end users out in the world to stop using spaces... just so your script works?
Seriously now. You expect all the end users out in the world to stop using GOTO... just because your favorite language (PYTHON) lacks this wonderful, absolutely necessary, versatile command?
Face it... people buy Apple because it works out of the box without having to configure anything.
I might be wrong, but I have the impression that people buy Apple, because they feel, somehow, superior to the other guys (the people, not the devices). And this actually goes back to the 80s.
Are you in business? Because if you are, your accountant had better save you lots more money than he/she costs.
Are you in business? What happens when (s)he does not save you money? And you know s(he) costs! And, whatever you say, the law is unbelievably complex.
Just the other day, I had a 2 hour interview with my lawyer save me some $100,000 cash.
And when (s)he does not save 100000, but because of negligence, incompetence, or whatever, costs you 100000 in fines, does (s)he have responsibility for that? (hint: no). Are you in business?
And those rules generally aren't arbitrary, they are complex and detailed because reality is complex and detailed
From what I have gathered, the reality IS complex, when the lawmakers want to satisfy each and every one of their supporters. For example: if you are divorced (not widowed) single parent with 1 child (not 2) for at least 5 years (not 4), then you are entitled a private parking place in front of your apartment.
Each profession has its place
It does. But it is to benefit of all minimize the need for professions which do not produce anything useful material (food, water, engines, cars, houses, pens, disks etc). For example, reduce your marketing droids to some googles.
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There are people who think as you do, and support you. We are just not so vocal as the feeble minded /.ers here.
All the linux distributions I have used so far (SuSE, Mandriva, PCLInuxos, Ubuntu), all, have Numpy in their ready made packages. All you have to do is click to install it. To install SciPy, you download it, and run as installer. I don't know about matplotlib, but I suspect it as easy as SciPy.
Thus, they are free.
But if you want to fund python related staff, then fine.
fascist control freaks worse than Microsoft.
I thought I would never hear that something is worse that Microsoft. Sadly, I agree.
By exactly the same logic, one can argue that it is a computer.
The way forward is Linux.
I work at a company that every reader of slashdot would know, and we are still using XP
You, Sir, work for Microsoft, don't you?
The real question is how do you compile the OS on the platform.
You could argue that one difference is that Visual Studio is available to anyone prepared to pay for it.
You may be right, as the poster does not give any details. However, if we are to believe the poster, the build scripts, which in the case of VS would be the project files, are not given, and this _is_ a violation of the GPL.
Simple, don't use code that is covered by the GPL in your product. It's exactly the same as any other copyright license
While I agree fully with the comment, I want to emphasize that the GPL license is a model copyright license, because it _lets_ the user really decide. If the user don't want to accept it, then they don't use the software and that's it. Nothing else to do.
On the other hand if you purchase a computer with Windows preinstalled, and _after_ that you purchased it you read the license, and don't agree, then what? Will you get your money back? We all know that this is seldom the case. It is also a lot of trouble for the obvious.
FYI, for the last 10 years or so, I have repeatedly asked my supplier, who is a friend of mine, to buy a laptop without windows. He always replied: not a chance, though he used more colorful words (on the other hand I have bought custom built desktops with SuSE).
The main purpose of the crew is to find ways to live off the land and as the crew are highly educated scientists and engineers, chances are that they will accomplish a lot.
Finally, after many years, a small community of habitats will have been established.
And no, you can't transfer billions or millions of people to Mars. But Zubrin's plan is a start, and after that, necessity is the mother of invention. And even a small community breeds.
Constellation didn't get us any closer to the above objectives than we are with the Space Shuttle, or Saturn V -- not a step forward in any sense
I tend to agree that Obama got that right. But this does not mean that human space exploration and colonization needs radical new propulsion systems that will always be 30 years from now. We can do this with existing technology. As for the specific impulse needed I refer you to the book of Zubrin, where he has a lengthy description and discussion of the various engines/fuel, including nuclear thermal rockets.
Colonization usually means running from religious or philosophical persecution.
Any kind of persecution.
Zubrin, in the Case for Mars, claims that democracy and advancement (technological, society) happens when there is expansion; when there is possibility to go somewhere else if things get bad. It is an interesting read and I recommend it.
For example, as it has been said often in slashdot, linked lists are patented. With America pressing the world for ridiculous intellectual rights, extended to infinity, where will you go to escape this?
Necessity is the mother of invention, and the invention of a Mars habitat, IMO, will certainly give new ideas on earth (there is no way to destroy Mars habitat; you can't destroy it if it does not exist).
What makes anyone think that subsequent out-migration to habitable planets will work, when we can't get this one right?
It is my belief that it is the other way round. It is when we learn to cope with another planet (Mars?) that we will bring the knowledge back to cope with earth.
If Europeans hadn't colonized America, until they solved their problems here (in Europe), we would still be in the dark ages.
Colonization of other worlds is clearly impossible without manned flight.
Colonization of other worlds (which ones did you have in mind, by the way?) is clearly impossible without technologies that don't exist on Earth right now and won't exist for at least another few decades. Spending many billions of dollars on chemical rockets isn't going to get the job done.
Wrong. Look up "The case for mars" by Zubrin.
From what I have gathered, the space (spacetime?) of the universe expanded FTL. Anything INSIDE the universe never broke the light speed.
This raises the question. The universe expands into what?
Get the followup volumes too:
Noise cancelling algorithm design using sh. ( Shhhhhh... )
Real-time traffic control with bash.
Time-domain-reflectometry made easy, with sed.
GPS satellite tracking with tr.
Build a species database with Python. ... and many more ...
The funny thing about this list is that the last sentence is not funny; it's true.
Microsoft used it once to track down a virus writer. You may remember that case. But what it boils down to is that Office "called home" and reported to Microsoft what this person's GUID was. And Microsoft looked it up in their database to find the person who originally authored a Word macro virus.
This is false - though typical Slashdotist - anti-Microsoft hysteria.
Please slashdot moderators. Enlighten me why is the parent informative, but not the grandparent?
I looked at the link that you mention, and I found out that the folks there gave a solution. Use GIMP to rotate the image and insert to your word processor.
Sometimes I need to rotate some images 32.2365 grad (not degrees, gradians). It is trivial to convert between degrees and grad. Does/should MSOffice do this? (I confess I have no idea. I 've been using OpenOffice, and StarOffice before it, since 2000 - or was it 1999?).
Because GIMP is free to use, you are not forced to buy additional software to do a rotation. And if you used a Linux distribution, the odds are that GIMP would already be installed. And chances are, that you are able to do better job to an image with GIMP.
But if this is trouble to you (it really isn't; my 7 years old son does it routinely to print photos), continue to use (and pay for) Microsoft Office.
And more importantly, how did it form?
That's easy. When a star goes nova, it does nucleosynthesis, which means that carbon (and lithium and oxygen etc) are synthesized by helium, which has been synthesized by hydrogen.
Now, Sun is third or fourth generation star, which means that it is made of leftovers of other stars which have gone nova (or supernova). Part of the staff of other stars was carbon.
As Carl Sagan used to say, our bodies are made by star dust.
So use another distro if you object.
Certainly.
What's the point of a Beowulf cluster if it doesn't cause the lights to dim when you're performing your mad scientist calculations?
You have a point. But imagine a cluster that does NOT and CAN NOT run Windows.
Simply put: why is it that we assume an "advanced" civilization means that it is militarily advanced and not ethically advanced?
We don't know. Besides, what if the aliens think that the "ethical" thing is to spread their "real" life in the galaxy? (wiping us out).
I grew up hearing that advanced civilization "has" to be ethically advanced and I am sick of it. What if they are not? What if they are automata? What if they don't consider us intelligent, sentient or even alive? A million what ifs. The aliens are alien. We must be prepared for everything. If they are ethical as we understand it, then all the better. But if not, we must be prepared, for example by colonizing Mars.
That is not Fortran. Note that Fortran /= Cobol.
Seriously now. You expect all the end users out in the world to stop using spaces... just so your script works?
Seriously now. You expect all the end users out in the world to stop using GOTO... just because your favorite language (PYTHON) lacks this wonderful, absolutely necessary, versatile command?
Face it... people buy Apple because it works out of the box without having to configure anything.
I might be wrong, but I have the impression that people buy Apple, because they feel, somehow, superior to the other guys (the people, not the devices). And this actually goes back to the 80s.
Are you in business? Because if you are, your accountant had better save you lots more money than he/she costs.
Are you in business? What happens when (s)he does not save you money? And you know s(he) costs! And, whatever you say, the law is unbelievably complex.
Just the other day, I had a 2 hour interview with my lawyer save me some $100,000 cash.
And when (s)he does not save 100000, but because of negligence, incompetence, or whatever, costs you 100000 in fines, does (s)he have responsibility for that? (hint: no). Are you in business?
And those rules generally aren't arbitrary, they are complex and detailed because reality is complex and detailed
From what I have gathered, the reality IS complex, when the lawmakers want to satisfy each and every one of their supporters. For example: if you are divorced (not widowed) single parent with 1 child (not 2) for at least 5 years (not 4), then you are entitled a private parking place in front of your apartment.
Each profession has its place
It does. But it is to benefit of all minimize the need for professions which do not produce anything useful material (food, water, engines, cars, houses, pens, disks etc). For example, reduce your marketing droids to some googles.