There is also a World WInd clone written by Pat Murris - WW2D Plus One (homepage) written in Java.
It's obviously quite simplistic however it is a 3D world viewer and can use the same imagery as World Wind, so it's a start and certainly something to use if you want to see the good-looking Next Generation Blue Marble imagery for one thing:)
Everyone moans that NASA's World Wind doesn't do this, doesn't do that, and so on - well, we're a non-profit organisation centred around World Wind and we're taking part to hopefully produce lots of useful features for World Wind. More info, ideas and contact details are at our SoC page. See you there, or in #worldwind on Freenode:)
Are the reason that Myspace and Youtube are successful. All they care about is meeting people, chatting away and sharing photos (and the blokes just want to hit on the girls.) And much like in real life, people congregate towards a central place that is free, available and simple to use.
Myspace is the carpark of the internet, and YouTube is the cinema:)
Surely there's a difference between "this event happened (because there's search results for it) but your country doesn't want you to see any information about it " and "this doesn't exist - look - that event ***never happened***"?
That's neat. ROI is a handy feature.
Another thing which surprised me on a second visit is that it remembers your previously viewed stocks and displays them in a second column. I suppose that's why it's only a one-column homepage to start off with.
What I want from a finance site is information overload. Numbers, headlines, numbers. My proper online trading account has an interface which does this fantastically, and Yahoo is also pretty good - I have my portfolio in Yahoo, and I like the way it presents it.
Yahoo is a hell of a lot more comprehensive than this service at the moment though, but hey...it's Beta, I suppose for once a Google product deserves its beta tag;)
And a note about the Flash interface...nifty, but argh, it's Flash. I can't work this one out...Google 'good', Flash 'bad'...Google + Flash =...? My head hurts:(
It's clean because it doesn't do anything...there's a few lines of text and...not much else....
But if they build on it then it'll be great. None of those annoing ads like on Yahoo finance etc.
Firstly - I don't actually work for NASA, but this should be fairly accurate info...
The next major revision *should* be also done in Java meaning some nice cross-platform capability. Sun is pretty interested in the whole thing last I heard. Should be out some time this year, I really don't have a clue when.
And someone has created a 2D WW clone in Java which runs on Linux, but apart from that, it's all talk and no walk the talk...understandable really since it's not exactly a thing for anyone but someone in a full-time team to be able to do.
Problem is NASA just hasn't had the budget to fund extra developers to do a cross-platform rewrite which is why there isn't one yet, and is also why they switched from OpenGL to C# & MDX back in ~summer 04 - to get something out before the funding was cut.
It's not a lack of will or interest, our goal as a community is to get free imagery out there and get it used, to make these tools available to all to hack away for their own needs, and so on. Home, schools, military....you name it.
World Wind is open source and frankly without us ~20 - 30 'core' volunteers (~10 of us originate from when WW was slashdotted in Sep 04, including me) it wouldn't be anywhere close to what it is today. But switching to a cross-platform method or any one person / small group coding their own just hasn't been do-able.
If there was one thing I'd say it would be 'support NASA' because they've done some great things with World Wind and they've listened to us, the community (most of the time;) and done things a government agency would never do (*we* got them to use Bit Torrent to distribute the downloads, *we* got lighttpd running on their servers, etc). Write to NASA management, write to government officials...get the $$ and get the imagery, and we'll show you what we can do.
The article is in my opinion well-rounded and truthful with no fanboyism on either side, And as a co-admin on the NASA World Wind forums, it pains me to say that!
I'm particularly looking forward to Microsoft's offering since I know some of the imagery they have lined up, and "neat" describes it pretty well.
2006 will be an interesting year for imagery on the desktop, especially with ESRI getting in on the act, too - their app, ArcGIS Explorer, looks extremely nice: http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/explorer/
Quite correct. The thing with World Wind is that it's community-driven, so if people want ports then they need to step up and join in. In addition to your links there's also a forum section for ports and a how to get involved page on the Wiki.
We welcome all the help we can get - I came to WW from the Slashdotting 12 months ago, so let's see what this time can bring:)
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There is also a World WInd clone written by Pat Murris - WW2D Plus One (homepage) written in Java.
It's obviously quite simplistic however it is a 3D world viewer and can use the same imagery as World Wind, so it's a start and certainly something to use if you want to see the good-looking Next Generation Blue Marble imagery for one thing :)
Everyone moans that NASA's World Wind doesn't do this, doesn't do that, and so on - well, we're a non-profit organisation centred around World Wind and we're taking part to hopefully produce lots of useful features for World Wind. More info, ideas and contact details are at our SoC page. See you there, or in #worldwind on Freenode :)
Ah but if it's not simple to use then the 14 year olds can't use it, so nobody else does, so nobody does. Vicious circle.
Are the reason that Myspace and Youtube are successful. All they care about is meeting people, chatting away and sharing photos (and the blokes just want to hit on the girls.) And much like in real life, people congregate towards a central place that is free, available and simple to use.
:)
Myspace is the carpark of the internet, and YouTube is the cinema
That's old-hat - why not use AJAX blink!
Surely there's a difference between "this event happened (because there's search results for it) but your country doesn't want you to see any information about it " and "this doesn't exist - look - that event ***never happened***"?
That's neat. ROI is a handy feature. Another thing which surprised me on a second visit is that it remembers your previously viewed stocks and displays them in a second column. I suppose that's why it's only a one-column homepage to start off with. What I want from a finance site is information overload. Numbers, headlines, numbers. My proper online trading account has an interface which does this fantastically, and Yahoo is also pretty good - I have my portfolio in Yahoo, and I like the way it presents it. Yahoo is a hell of a lot more comprehensive than this service at the moment though, but hey...it's Beta, I suppose for once a Google product deserves its beta tag ;)
And a note about the Flash interface...nifty, but argh, it's Flash. I can't work this one out...Google 'good', Flash 'bad'...Google + Flash = ...? My head hurts :(
It's clean because it doesn't do anything...there's a few lines of text and...not much else.... But if they build on it then it'll be great. None of those annoing ads like on Yahoo finance etc.
Firstly - I don't actually work for NASA, but this should be fairly accurate info...
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;) and done things a government agency would never do (*we* got them to use Bit Torrent to distribute the downloads, *we* got lighttpd running on their servers, etc). Write to NASA management, write to government officials...get the $$ and get the imagery, and we'll show you what we can do.
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The next major revision *should* be also done in Java meaning some nice cross-platform capability. Sun is pretty interested in the whole thing last I heard. Should be out some time this year, I really don't have a clue when.
There is a forum section for ports: http://forum.worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/index.php?sho
And someone has created a 2D WW clone in Java which runs on Linux, but apart from that, it's all talk and no walk the talk...understandable really since it's not exactly a thing for anyone but someone in a full-time team to be able to do.
Problem is NASA just hasn't had the budget to fund extra developers to do a cross-platform rewrite which is why there isn't one yet, and is also why they switched from OpenGL to C# & MDX back in ~summer 04 - to get something out before the funding was cut.
It's not a lack of will or interest, our goal as a community is to get free imagery out there and get it used, to make these tools available to all to hack away for their own needs, and so on. Home, schools, military....you name it.
World Wind is open source and frankly without us ~20 - 30 'core' volunteers (~10 of us originate from when WW was slashdotted in Sep 04, including me) it wouldn't be anywhere close to what it is today. But switching to a cross-platform method or any one person / small group coding their own just hasn't been do-able.
If there was one thing I'd say it would be 'support NASA' because they've done some great things with World Wind and they've listened to us, the community (most of the time
If anyone wants to drop by and contribute, please do, it's all good fun and freeee to be hacked away at. http://www.worldwindcentral.com/ and http://forum.worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/ - see ya there
The article is in my opinion well-rounded and truthful with no fanboyism on either side, And as a co-admin on the NASA World Wind forums, it pains me to say that!
I'm particularly looking forward to Microsoft's offering since I know some of the imagery they have lined up, and "neat" describes it pretty well.
2006 will be an interesting year for imagery on the desktop, especially with ESRI getting in on the act, too - their app, ArcGIS Explorer, looks extremely nice: http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/explorer/
The satellite imagery & topographic maps are the user navigating NASA World Wind. Way cool.
Wow - he's actaully worked the bullshit generator into an article!
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/. for a few years, just created this new account because I forgot / never used the old one :)
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Quite correct. The thing with World Wind is that it's community-driven, so if people want ports then they need to step up and join in. In addition to your links there's also a forum section for ports and a how to get involved page on the Wiki. We welcome all the help we can get - I came to WW from the Slashdotting 12 months ago, so let's see what this time can bring :)
Pop over to the forums if you need help :)
A goatse image on the Road Map page within 30minutes of the Slashdotting. You're getting slow dudes :p
I didn't mention in the article, but there is a partial clone of World Wind for Linux done by a community member.See the thread here for more info.
People can also join #worldwind on irc.freenode.net. That's probably the best way to get involved with developing and find out what's where.
And lastly...yes, Mars is on the way. Stay tuned.