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Google Finance Beta Released

t3rmin4t0r writes "Forbes.com is reporting that google has rolled out a finance site. The site finance.google.com seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together. The Forbes article mentions that "Google had previously provided financial information through a framed page featuring information from Yahoo! Finance, Fool.com, MSN Money Central and ClearStation " and that the information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions. "

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  1. Woo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's exactly like Yahoo! Finance, only with no ads (Google can't put ads on beta sites for legal reasons) and cool Flash charting. This is probably the best financial site ever created.

    1. Re:Woo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (Google can't put ads on beta sites for legal reasons)

      You may want to check your source. Gmail, Google Groups, and Froogle (and probably others that I haven't bothered to check) are all technically beta, and all have ads.

    2. Re:Woo hoo! by Uber+Banker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You may want to check your source. Gmail, Google Groups, and Froogle (and probably others that I haven't bothered to check) are all technically beta, and all have ads.

      He/she may indeed like to check their source. I believe only Google News cannot display ads (due to legal threats), probably including Google's personalised home page as it has Google News contents.

    3. Re:Woo hoo! by SparafucileMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      uh, no it's not.

      1. the data is sparse. no canadian stocks. no options. no bonds. no futures. StockCharts.com has all that, it's free, and the charting is better because:

      2. no technical analysis

      and Yahoo is still way better than Google finance... hopefully Google will improve, but right now, there are litterly hundreds of free, better, and more comprehensive financial websites out there.

      Besides, the fact that they don't get their data directly from the exchanges is _completely_ bogus for anything serious. You can't use Google Finance for any real trading decisions.

    4. Re:Woo hoo! by GoodOmens · · Score: 1

      I think its neat they include blog post about the various companys.

    5. Re:Woo hoo! by iwsnet · · Score: 0

      CNET says the site was built by engineers in India. Like most of Google's Beta products, it's OK but needs lots of work.

    6. Re:Woo hoo! by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      You can get Canadian stock. Enter "ry.to" in the search and you'll get RBC on the TSX.

      The interface is pretty slick, but like you said, it could use a whole lot more features that are offered elsewhere.

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    7. Re:Woo hoo! by MatthewHays · · Score: 1

      I use yahoo finance, but cant seem to figure out how to get google finance to show me indexes or exchange rates. "^FTSE", "^FTMC" "GBPUSD=X", "GBPJPY=X" etc etc dont seem to work. Anyone know the symbol I can use for them? I like the grid dragging though....

    8. Re:Woo hoo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a geek, and a trader, I beg to disagree.

      There are a number of sites far better than this; www.advfn.com being an example, however, I am sure Google aren't done yet.

      if you want decent financial news, subscribe to Dow Jones Newswires, or Bloomberg, but that said, as *free* goes, Google Finance isn't looking too shite in its current state.

    9. Re:Woo hoo! by thrillseeker · · Score: 2, Informative
      cant seem to figure out how to get google finance to show me indexes or exchange rates

      The indexes come up if entered without the upcaret, i.e.: ^IXIC is shown at IXIC

    10. Re:Woo hoo! by J2000_ca · · Score: 1

      No Canadian stocks eh? You mean like BCE? and legally not allowed to put ads in Beta software like gmail? or MSN 8? I wonder how you got modded so high.

  2. Quick. Clean. by FishWithAHammer · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I like it. Needs more features, but it's nice and easy to read. No clutter.

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    1. Re:Quick. Clean. by TheBeansprout · · Score: 1

      It's clean because it doesn't do anything...there's a few lines of text and...not much else.... But if they build on it then it'll be great. None of those annoing ads like on Yahoo finance etc.

    2. Re:Quick. Clean. by TheBeansprout · · Score: 1

      And a note about the Flash interface...nifty, but argh, it's Flash. I can't work this one out...Google 'good', Flash 'bad'...Google + Flash = ...? My head hurts :(

    3. Re:Quick. Clean. by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1
      Needs more features. Exactly. My wish list for a site:
      • Index data, not stock data. And not dodgy price return indices like the DJIA, but total return indices preferably MSCI Global series
      • Bond and property markets included in the index data, not only stock markets. Indiced quoted by maturity bucket and credit spread. Property indices quoted by total yield
      • Fundamental stock market index indices, such as a time series of P/Es, dividend yields, forward earnings, variation of earnings estimates
      • Commodity indices, including generic futures
      • Economic data such as inflation, RPIX, GDP, unemployment - somewhat slower moving but essential
      • The data of the last price on a quote. Markets are usually not 24 hours - so I would like to know the date of the mid price or last price quote. Returns over X months would be good too
      • Index volume and implied volatility data is essential.

      Only after the above would I consider stock by stock data. Basics like understanding the economy, different ways to look at returns and prices, and fundamental stock data all are essential in part or in whole for any method of investment be it day trading, long term portfolio construction, technical trading, whatever. Without this basic data, having a stream of individual stock prices is next to worthless. So for now I'll stick to me Bloomberg computer, but from what I understand most of my wish list above is freely available data with a short delay (20 mins depending on exchange) - premium features of Bloomberg, Reuters or Datastream have far more depth.
    4. Re:Quick. Clean. by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not a bad way of doing things.

      One thing Google learned from search is that people prefer simple. Provided an app does something useful, it's better in my view for it to start lacking some features than for it to drag useless, distracting, and poorly thought out features along for the rest of its natural lifespan. Let the users clamor for what they want, and cherry pick the low hanging fruit, repeating ad infinitum.

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    5. Re:Quick. Clean. by christopherfinke · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's clean because it doesn't do anything...there's a few lines of text and...not much else....
      Try signing in and clicking on the Portfolio link in the upper right. It allows you to enter what stocks you own, how many shares, and what price you bought them at. It then tracks the return on your investment. Even if you don't own stocks, you could use this for easy virtual trading to try your hand at the market.
    6. Re:Quick. Clean. by TheBeansprout · · Score: 1

      That's neat. ROI is a handy feature. Another thing which surprised me on a second visit is that it remembers your previously viewed stocks and displays them in a second column. I suppose that's why it's only a one-column homepage to start off with. What I want from a finance site is information overload. Numbers, headlines, numbers. My proper online trading account has an interface which does this fantastically, and Yahoo is also pretty good - I have my portfolio in Yahoo, and I like the way it presents it. Yahoo is a hell of a lot more comprehensive than this service at the moment though, but hey...it's Beta, I suppose for once a Google product deserves its beta tag ;)

    7. Re:Quick. Clean. by jarom · · Score: 1

      Ad Beta Statusum Infinitum.

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  3. Google is in Everything by DarkNemesis618 · · Score: 1

    This is just another thing google is getting itself into. This could be good or bad, depending on how you want to think about it. It's good that they are trying to broaden their scope on the internet further. The bad is that if they continue to stretch into different fields, they could spread themselves out too thin and could have it backfire on them. IMHO, they're a good company and I trust their products and services for the most part.

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    1. Re:Google is in Everything by babbling · · Score: 1

      How, exactly, could it backfire on them? As long as they remain the best in some fields (which they will in search), isn't it only good for them to stretch their legs out a bit and see what else they can do well?

      Think of it in terms of the theory that if you go around bars asking for sex, you'll eventually get some.

      Instead of Google being an unattractive slob, though, they're handsome and all the girls want to have sex with them. In other words, there are lots of people who want to use all the Google services they can. Google would be stupid not to oblige.

    2. Re:Google is in Everything by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      "Think of it in terms of the theory that if you go around bars asking for sex, you'll eventually get some."

      Only if you're good looking. If you're ugly, you'll get charged with sexual harassment. If only I had a link to that SNL skit :)

    3. Re:Google is in Everything by eric_brissette · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Google's in the business of making information easy to find/access. I would say this falls under that category.

    4. Re:Google is in Everything by notasheep · · Score: 1

      "Only if you're good looking. If you're ugly, you'll get charged with sexual harassment. If only I had a link to that SNL skit :)"

      It all depends on where you set the bar. There's always somebody uglier than you who needs some. ;)

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    5. Re:Google is in Everything by larry+bagina · · Score: 1
      How, exactly, could it backfire on them? As long as they remain the best in some fields (which they will in search), isn't it only good for them to stretch their legs out a bit and see what else they can do well?

      They risk brand dilution. They risk losing focus. It's questionable whether they are, or will remain, the best search engine --- thanks to blogs, seo tricks, google bombing, etc, many of their results are spam or useless. With Yahoo, MS, and others targetting them, launching yet another half-assed beta site might not be the best roi.

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    6. Re:Google is in Everything by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The catch in this case, it is going to be competing against a lot of it's customers, who likely prefered google prior to this over yahoo or msn. There are a lot of financial companies and brokerage services that provide this information who will now have to reconsider feeding their competitor. This was always going to be google's problem, expand services and alienate customers who they are turning into competitors, providing an opportunity for a new search only company.

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  4. Whew! by suso · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For a second there I thought that Google had created some web application for people to track their personal expenses. That could be dangerous in a lot of ways.

    1. Re:Whew! by Bohiti · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought the same thing (web application) but with a different impression ("Whew! Google's smart, maybe they can keep my checkbook balanced!")

    2. Re:Whew! by c_forq · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was thinking Google was doing some sort of Quicken-like finance application, or a tax service (thought it was a little late to be releasing tax software though).

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    3. Re:Whew! by justinhj · · Score: 1

      I would use it. I have some crazy misguided uber-trust for google. I already have so much personal information on my gmail account I dread to think what they could do with it if they really wanted to. Where does that trust come from? Maybe because I know that the company is 90% programmers?

    4. Re:Whew! by DCstewieG · · Score: 2, Informative

      You mean like this or this? The former connects to Microsoft Money. I tried both and now use Total Look...obviously I'm not a tin-foil hat type.

    5. Re:Whew! by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      I'll consider trusting them when they abandon their Stanford exclusionist philosophy, and start looking eastward to the place called the Midwest instead of merely flying over it.

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  5. Re:Big Deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks. Now fuck off

  6. I like! by ggvaidya · · Score: 4, Informative

    "looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together."

    Really? Check out their MSFT page - it really is a lot better organised than Yahoo's. Once they support Singaporean stocks (they already have lots of information), I'm gonna be all over these guys.

    Good job, Google!

    1. Re:I like! by Disavian · · Score: 1

      Actually, the page to be watching now is GOOG. Pretty awesome layout, I think it's rather polished for an initial beta.

    2. Re:I like! by tessaiga · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Really? Check out their MSFT page - it really is a lot better organised than Yahoo's. Once they support Singaporean stocks (they already have lots of information), I'm gonna be all over these guys.
      Have you ever actually used Yahoo Finance to do any in-depth analysis? The depth of information you can dig up from their site is astounding.

      Want to know their daily historical prices going back to 1986? How about getting the percent of their float currently shorted as a gauge of bearishness on the stock? Or track insider trading as an indicator of management's confidence in their own company? Check the options chain for ways to hedge your positions or as a way of leveraging an investment in the stock? Yahoo provides all this and more.

      At present Google Finance just gives you the thousand-mile overview and links you to other sites for anything more detailed. While this might improve in the future, at the moment the article summary's judgement on their scope is valid.

      Where I do see an opportunity for Google Finance to one-up Yahoo is in their corporate news section. Yahoo mainly gets corporate news related to a company from news wires like Reuters or PR Newswire. As a result, a lot of smaller companies that analysts don't follow as closely have very few news stories associated with them. Of course, this same universe of small companies is where a diligent personal investor can uncover lots of value stocks overlooked by Wall Street. With their excellent Google News technology, this would be a great spot for Google to use their expertise at pulling in the latest news stories off all corners of the news world for all stocks, not just the big ones that are closely watched by the Street. That would certainly give me a reason to use their service to keep tabs on stocks I'm interested in following.

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    3. Re:I like! by c_forq · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Every page for a stock I have looked at is real sharp, especially the board members with pictures and descriptions on mouse-over. The news following the time line, and the ability to move the time line with the bar and by dragging is good thinking too. I also like how you can follow the line with the mouse, and it will show the time and value of where your cursor is. The stock pages seem very polished to me, it is only the main page that appears to be quickly thrown together in my view.

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    4. Re:I like! by RalphLeon · · Score: 1
      to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.
      Yea what is with that statement? The front page might look a little simple but if you actually use the search function, say for Apple It is extreamly feature rich. It offers news, a company summary, and a little interactive explorer that lets you see the exact stock value on the graph. Methinks that this poster did not actually use the site...
    5. Re:I like! by RalphLeon · · Score: 1

      Actually if you play around with the bar on top of the graph it gives you the stock price over years and lets you zoom into any section. The site is definetly polished and extreamly interactive; "quickly hacked together" my buttox.

    6. Re:I like! by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Another thing I like to use on Yahoo is to pull Real-Time ECN info for several stocks at once, to keep tabs on a watchlist. I don't see similar functionality in the Google page. Try the following:

      http://finance.yahoo.com/q/cq?d=e&s=ge%2Ctsn%2CMO, goog,jnpr,tsai

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    7. Re:I like! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a false advantage. If you really need real time quotes you better not be using YAHOO.

    8. Re:I like! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It is extreamly feature rich. It offers news, a company summary, and a little interactive explorer that lets you see the exact stock value on the graph. Methinks that this poster did not actually use the site...

      I guess it depends on your definition of feature rich, and to what extent you have been using other financial services for advanced in-depth stock info and analysis. If this is "extremely feature rich" you will have to invent new super-superlatives to describe the alternatives out there :)

    9. Re:I like! by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      If you just want to check real-time numbers from work (with firewall restrictions), then Yahoo's better than nothing...

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    10. Re:I like! by spagetti_code · · Score: 1

      but.. but.. but...

      its got a cool sliding graph. Look!!!! Wheeeeeeee.
      Musta been some cool ajax behind that!

    11. Re:I like! by hetz · · Score: 1

      Nope,

      It's flash.

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    12. Re:I like! by wskellenger · · Score: 1
      Have you ever actually used Yahoo Finance to do any in-depth analysis? The depth of information you can dig up from their site is astounding.

      While you've obviously spent the time to point out to everyone four things you like about Yahoo! Finance -- what did you *like* about Google's finance page?

      I took one look at it and immediately thought that relating TIMES of news releases to the stock's price history was awesome!

      If Google Maps or Gmail are any indication, Yahoo! Finance is in for a shake-up.

      How about the fancy widget that allows you to drag over the stock's price history and watch the animated chart stretch to show any period of time?? Sweet!

      Google creates cool toys for us to play with.

  7. Plain? Don't talk nonsense by timster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hey, the storied search engine has a plain starting screen too. Where this is cool is when you get into the detail page for individual stocks. Check out the price graph, which is much richer than what Yahoo has -- you can hover for the closing price on specific days, click and drag to move around in the history, and zoom however you like.

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    1. Re:Plain? Don't talk nonsense by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      Hey, the storied search engine has a plain starting screen too.

      But is it ugly?

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  8. Very limited. by finnif · · Score: 1, Informative

    No stock news based on stocks in your portfolio... no real time quotes... no technical charting.. no options listings.

    Besides a somewhat nifty chart -- which most pro sites have already gone far beyond -- this is not very noteworthy except that all things Google are news, right? I'd use Yahoo Finance to get information on Google's stock before I used Google Finance.

    1. Re:Very limited. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget all that; there isn't even a currency converter. Looks like I'll be sticking with Yahoo! then.

    2. Re:Very limited. by Tuzanor · · Score: 1
      No stock news based on stocks in your portfolio... no real time quotes... no technical charting.. no options listings.

      No usless real time stock ticker (are you a speculator or investor?), links to more technical charting, links to options listings...

      It's a brand new beta. Give it time for more advanced portfolio (i hope!) additions.

    3. Re:Very limited. by finnif · · Score: 0

      links to more technical charting, links to options listings... It's a brand new beta. Give it time for more advanced portfolio (i hope!) additions.

      I'm not sure what software business you're in, but in the one I work for, "beta" means feature complete. If I wanted a link to another site with options listings, I might as well just go to Yahoo where they have options listings. I want better options listings. Google hasn't improved on anything here except using their patented Google CSS to display some stock information... and you guys are all going ga-ga over it.

      No usless real time stock ticker (are you a speculator or investor?)

      I'm both a speculator and an investor. A 15 or 20 minute delay makes a stock price useless -- especially if you were trading Google's stock. Like I said, I wouldn't use Google Finance for information on Google's stock. Without options or real time quotes, it's a good way to lose money.

      Like another poster mentioned, I don't want to be logged into my broker's site all day, they'll kick me off after 20 minutes or so. Bottom line is, Google Finance is another throw away tool that Google's put out there and will soon stop developing. The 3 people who put it together will move onto something else soon, kind of like Google Ride Finder, Google Reader, Google Web Accelerator, even Google News, which is in 4 years of Beta.

    4. Re:Very limited. by neildiamond · · Score: 1

      It's kind of sad that they're worse than bigcharts.com. Perhaps the flash graph is niftier than yahoo, but more useless than the old page.

    5. Re:Very limited. by moonty · · Score: 2, Informative

      Other products in the same class (free stock reports, essentially, right?) also have 15 or 20 minute delays, it's not a specific disadvantage to Google Finance.
      Google Finance stock delays
      Yahoo Finance stock delays
      MSN Money stock delays

      Besides that, Google News left beta in January... doesn't seem they've stopped developing that, at the very least.

    6. Re:Very limited. by yaddayaddaslashdot · · Score: 2, Interesting
      no real time quotes...

      unless, of course, you consider the real time quotes.

      search for a ticker symbol. right above the chart, you'll see a line that starts "Real-Time ECN:" that is a real-time quote.

    7. Re:Very limited. by finnif · · Score: 1

      search for a ticker symbol. right above the chart, you'll see a line that starts "Real-Time ECN:" that is a real-time quote.

      I swear that wasn't there when I posted earlier. Oh well. Good to see it made it. Now how about the other items? Develop faster, webmonkeys!

    8. Re:Very limited. by christopherfinke · · Score: 1
      No stock news based on stocks in your portfolio...
      Are you sure? I added Google, Dell, Apple, and GE to my portfolio, and now the main Finance page has a whole section called "Related News" that just happens to be filled with stories about Google, Dell, Apple, and GE.
    9. Re:Very limited. by finnif · · Score: 1

      Are you sure? I added Google, Dell, Apple, and GE to my portfolio, and now the main Finance page has a whole section called "Related News" that just happens to be filled with stories about Google, Dell, Apple, and GE.

      Those seem to be based on your recent stock searches, not the stocks in your portfolio.

    10. Re:Very limited. by Tuzanor · · Score: 1

      A 15 or 20 minute delay makes a stock price useless Nonesense. I suggest you read "the intelligent investor" by Benjamin Graham. I think Warren Buffet knows more about investing than you do.

  9. Re:In Other Words... by suso · · Score: 1

    Sites like these provide important economic indicators that help you determine when its the right time to buy a car or a house or go Kwanzaa shopping. I wouldn't dare spend my money unless I felt that it was ok to do so.

  10. I just noticed by Genevish · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was just about to post a story about this. I went to pull up the info on a quote from my Google news page and saw the new format.

    The main page may look plain, but the detail on a stock is beautiful:

    http://www.google.com/finance?client=ig&q=AAPL

    The stock ticker is draggable, like Google Maps, and shows a marker for each news item (listed on the side). Also, as you scroll the ticker (by dragging it), the news items change to show items relevant to the timeframe displayed.

    I'd say well done Google.

    1. Re:I just noticed by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Curiously, although Google Maps is JavaScript, Google Finance uses Flash for its charting. How very YahooBetaMappy of them.

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    2. Re:I just noticed by se7en11 · · Score: 0
      looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.

      Yeah, that's no hack. It even shows press releases for big changes.

      Now I just need to get some stocks... ;)

    3. Re:I just noticed by farker+haiku · · Score: 1

      I was just about to post this comment. It's completely unlike the rest of the stock tickets out there, where you have to click on a specific date range to see the picture. How this draggable interface will be useful to someone who wants to track the history of a stock over the course of a year though is open to debate.

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    4. Re:I just noticed by farker+haiku · · Score: 1

      My bad, I didn't notice the zooming. This just became SWEET. A real improvement over existing finance charts.

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    5. Re:I just noticed by nellardo · · Score: 1

      It isn't a pro-level tool by any stretch yet (five days of intraday data isn't much), but the way it automatically tracks what you've been doing (go back to the home page after searching for some stocks and see how it changes) is quite useful. And Google searches to find stock tickers - clearly it's tuned for that. E.g., "ms" gets you Morgan Stanley, not multiple sclerosis. Though doing a search for "ms" on Google's main page, Google Finance comes up at the top of the list.

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    6. Re:I just noticed by Dan+Hayes · · Score: 1

      Except for the one I develop which has all of this and a lot more (multiple stocks, multiple indicators, user-chosen frequencies, drawing tools etc etc) in a web page. Still, Google's chart is nice.

    7. Re:I just noticed by mblase · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The stock ticker is draggable, like Google Maps

      Not quite like Google Maps; this stock chart is produced with Flash 8, not AJAX/DHTML/JS/whatever you want to call it.

      Not a problem for me, or (I expect) for its target audience. Still, I think this is the first time Google has built something using Flash instead of AJAX, so it's notable just for that.

    8. Re:I just noticed by Ced_Ex · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not a problem for me, or (I expect) for its target audience. Still, I think this is the first time Google has built something using Flash instead of AJAX, so it's notable just for that.

      Doesn't Google Video use flash?

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    9. Re:I just noticed by rm69990 · · Score: 1

      Flash 7 works fine as well. My Mac has 7 installed, and I have never bothered upgrading.

    10. Re:I just noticed by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      Google Video uses flash for the web interface, but it is possible to download the file in other formats, and even the original format (the format as it was upload) if you look. Of course that only applies to the free videos.

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  11. Uhhh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Uhh...

    Maybe if the submitter took a few steps beyond that first page, he'd see how mind-crushingly awesome this service is. I mean.. they made a crawler to actually get pictures of company officers?

    Not to mention that their graphing software is really, really slick. Head and shoulders above Yahoo.

    1. Re:Uhhh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It suggests a new Google Game... find the pick of the Hottest Female Executive. My first pick: Andrea Jung, Avon.

  12. Hacked Together? by SWeinig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would hardly call it 'hacked together', the graphing utility alone constitutes real UI thought.

    1. Re:Hacked Together? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm... you mean ``For the ubercool interactive charts, you need to install the Macromedia Flash Player'' isn't what they wanted me to see?

  13. Nothing to see here by jfengel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wow, that's just about nuthin'. The portfolio page asks for Stock, Amount, and Price, but not Trading Date (necessary to figure out annual yields). The resulting page doesn't list news for those companies, just the current stock price.

    I use the Yahoo Finance page to track my portfolio. It's redundant with my actual brokerage page, but the brokerage is much more paranoid about automatically logging me out, so a simple check is often a pain. Fortunately, for me keeping the two in synch is easy because I trade only a few times a year.

    Google's got a loooooong way to go before I abandon that. I have faith that they can, but for the moment I wouldn't call this Beta. Usually when Google calls something "Beta" it at least shows one cool thing. This is just a "me, too" page.

    1. Re:Nothing to see here by mblase · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The resulting page doesn't list news for those companies, just the current stock price.

      Really? I clicked on the link to AAPL and saw not just stock info and news--linked to dates on the chart, no less--but Company Facts, Company Summary, Company Financials, Management, Related Companies, and links to Blog Posts (courtesy of Google Blog Search, natch) and discussions hosted by Google. That's almost twice as much information as I got from Yahoo's default page.

    2. Re:Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The finance.yahoo.com page also has a lot of good/relevant news and editorials posted right there on the front page (which I find worth my time, YMMV). While google can compete on the agregated related news stories, I can't see them offering any original columns or editorials.

    3. Re:Nothing to see here by dan+the+person · · Score: 1

      Problem with yahoo is they are crap for non US stocks. What's worse is they are less crap than all the others i've tried.

      I've got HK/CN,UK,NZ & AU stocks and they don't have feeds of exchange announcements, they don't have the P/E, you get different news items depending on if you go to finance.yahoo.com or au.finance.yahoo.com or uk.finance.yahoo.com, and often the news about an AU country will appear in the uk. and not the au. site.

      Then they keep getting confused several times a week over whether a london stock at 40.00 is 40.00 pence or 40.00 pounds. Try examining a stock chart that hovers around 39-40 pounds and then jumps up to 4000 for one day, you can't see much detail. And logging in to see that your portfolio just dropped 10K in value can give a bit of a shock the first time it happens.

    4. Re:Nothing to see here by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Sadly, I don't know squat about how they deal with foreign stocks. I wish I did; I'd love to be able to invest in them. But they're not readily traded in the US unless they've got a separate listing on a US exchange.

      I'd really kinda like to diversify my portfolio out of dollar-valued stocks because, well, as you might have noticed the economy of this country is doomed. No matter what the market seems to think today. The dollar is in a bubble of its own, and when that bubble burts... hoo, boy, is THAT gonna suck.

    5. Re:Nothing to see here by dan+the+person · · Score: 1

      I'd love to be able to invest in them.
      Can't you just open an account with a broker that deals in foreign markets? Is that why so many companies offer ADRs?

      In the UK just about every broker can trade stocks on the major US and EU markets. They'll usually charge you a fraction more brokerage than UK & IE stock though.

      Finding one to deal in your favourite asian, eastern european and middle eastern exchanges can take a little more shopping around. And with natwest who i went with in the end, they'll charge you a little more brokerage again than US & EU, and only offer it via telephone trading. Once you've placed your order you can track the order progress online just as if you had placed the order online though.

    6. Re:Nothing to see here by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I think that's why major foreign companies usually offer ADRs.

      In the end I just went with a European stock mutual fund, which makes sense for (a) diversity and (b) the fact that I don't actually know which foreign companies to invest in. Being a tech nerd in America I know (or at least think I know) which American companies to buy.

    7. Re:Nothing to see here by Aramgutang · · Score: 1

      You're a little confused, the parent was talking about the portfolio page, which only lists the prices of stocks in your protfolio without the news stories about them.

  14. Has a long way to go to catch Yahoo! by Golgafrinchan · · Score: 1
    Good:

    - The scrollable graphical price history is pretty neat. You can also easily expand the time horizon. There isn't really a lot you can do with it, but I think it's a fun little toy.

    - Important links to each company are included: news, employment opportunities, investor relations, etc. It's nice to have all of those links in one place.

    Bad:

    - If you're looking for a lot of real information about a company's finances, you'll still have to go elsewhere. A few financial ratios are reported on each company's page, but after those few, you have to click on "more ratios from Reuters." Also, Yahoo has a LOT more data on every company. Here's an example of what I mean: company data.

    - No analyst opinion page, like Yahoo has. Here's an example of what I mean: analyst opinion. I think it can be helpful to see how covering analysts view a company.

    - Historical price data on Google finance only goes back to 2001. This shouldn't be too difficult to fix in the future.

    I expect Google will work on these soon, but they have a long way to go to catch up now.

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    1. Re:Has a long way to go to catch Yahoo! by A*OnYourA** · · Score: 1
      - No analyst opinion page, like Yahoo has.

      That's right. According to Google, analysts don't deserve an opinion page. Maybe if GOOG stock goes back up to 400 they might consider it?

  15. Some nice features by RingDev · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together"

    Yeah, in the same way google.com looks "quickly hacked together"

    Just for fun I pulled up my 401k investments. The time line was nice, and the information was good. But I figured I'd check out the 401k's investment since I started investing in it. I clicked the 3yr link at the top of the chart and it made a pretty cool re-size effect, and the top bar changed too. Looks like you can click and drag either side of the total time line bar to change the zoom to any time period for the fund.

    Pretty neat, and definitely not 'quickly hacked together'

    -Rick

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    1. Re:Some nice features by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      Additionally, the "plain" styling took about one tenth as long to load as forbes page the submission also linked to.

      In all honestly, what got me started using google back in the day was not the quality of search results over yahoo (it helped, for a little while though), it was the fact that even on dial-up it loaded almost instantly.

  16. Google Fiance ? by mkroska · · Score: 1

    Just for a moment I paused and thought about it: Google knows all, so why not? They seem to be dabbling in everything else, why not fiances?
    .
    Following typical Slashdot logic:
    1. Find candidate
    2. Find other interested, lonely people matched by search history
    3 ???
    4. Profit

    --MK

  17. Re:In Other Words... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

    That's a great idea! My only request is that I get to be an Alpha.

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  18. Hacked?! by fabu10u$ · · Score: 1
    looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together
    I think not. Did you bother drilling down into the graphs?
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  19. same as Google by dotpavan · · Score: 1
    the interface is good, though it is the same as typing "Goog" as google's search query and the first result it returns is same as that got from Google finance,

    They just separated a separate "finance" section by channeling queries and news to it. Maybe this and google wallet might work together and something big happens.

  20. First Error??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was checking the details of "Wipro Limited (ADR)"

    http://finance.google.com/finance?q=wipro&btnG=Sea rch&hl=en

    Which states
    Vivek Paul > Vice Chairman of the Board

    Which is no longer true! Vivek Paul left Wipro some time back.

    1. Re:First Error??? by generic-man · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's probably because Google thinks its own index knows more about companies than folks like Hoovers do. Most search results for "wipro vivek paul" suggest that Paul is still with the company.

      Google's search engine falls short in other ways, too. They think my employer is still at the same office it was at three years ago, for example, because all the copycat linkfarm sites they index say so.

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  21. correction. by suso · · Score: 1

    Damnit, that was supposed to have tags around it. I don't really think like that. I guess that's why they made the preview button.

  22. Just In: Google merely collects other data! by Gothmolly · · Score: 0, Troll

    So the comment is that its a sparse site, composed of data collected and aggregated from other sites? My God! What is Google thinking! Oh wait, thats what they do, and are pretty successful at it. Think about it - in your Gmail screen, theres a little bare-bones stock price ticker, or just summary of the prices for the day... that's what Google's doing - they want to be your portal.

    Except they so far have kept the interface cool, ads to a minimum, and the functionality high.

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  23. Life is hard. by FishWithAHammer · · Score: 1

    Because, remember, everyone's equal! The ditchdigger is as valuable to a society as a doctor and we all should hug and chant Om and love each other!

    Get a grip.

    (Oh yeah--and pretty offtopic.)

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    1. Re:Life is hard. by eno2001 · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Think real hard about that the next time you desperately need a ditch dug and you can only call a doctor... Not too well thought out there kemosabe. Did you come up with that all on your own?

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  24. too plain by szembek · · Score: 1

    It seems like this submitter has a problem with Google going into the post with remarks on how it looks "too plain" and "quickly hacked together". If by too plain the author means "simple and clean like most people like it" than I'd agree. I'm sure this wasn't the only article slashdot received on this since topic since it's been linked to on google.com all morning. I've got to wonder why this one made the site. I was going to write in about it, but figured it was non-news.

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  25. Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by MoofOntario · · Score: 5, Informative

    Add CM to my portfolio....

    hmm.. "Could not find the requested symbol"

    Right, and no symbol search for the noobs.. that's going to be convenient. Oh well, try Adding CM.TO instead.

    "We will support international symbols soon"

    Right. Then maybe I'll give it a try "soon". Back to yahoo for me. (Add this to the other complaints people are having)

    -Moof

    1. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      It's a beta. Check back in 2009 when version 1.0 is released.

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    2. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by mph · · Score: 1
      "We will support international symbols soon"
      Heck, forget international symbols. I'd just like to figure out their syntax for "B" shares of Berkshire Hathaway (usually BRK/B, BRK.B, or BRK-B).
    4. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by MoofOntario · · Score: 1

      Hey, good point! I searched for Berkshire, it turned up the class A shares as "BRK.A". I was able to add that to my portfolio fine. However, adding BRK.B gives me the old can't find symbol. Perhaps I'll check in again in 2009 like another poster in this thread suggests.

      -Moof

    5. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by MoofOntario · · Score: 1

      Ya Ya. Anyway, beta didn't used to mean "product with unfinished requirements and no testing", but I guess in this new age of internet web 2.0 buzzwords...

      Anyway... You can look at the charts for international companies with it (ie http://finance.google.com/finance?q=CM ) but not add them to the portfolio. Seems like this last step would have been the "easy" part.

      Anyway, I'll just have to monitor it and see if things improve. I do like the interactive chart.

    6. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by yaddayaddaslashdot · · Score: 1
      Right, and no symbol search for the noobs..

      that's because you've been trained by other sites to assume you need a separate symbol search option.

      you can type in the name of a company in the same spot you would type in a ticker symbol. That's why, below that box, it offers the tip, 'e.g. "Google", "Cars", "AAPL"'. Indeed, you can just type in the type of company ("Cars") -- try "search engine," for example, and you get links to listings for 50+ companies that (presumably) all have search engines.

    7. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by mblase · · Score: 1

      How odd, here in the USA I was able to pull up CM right away. Maybe you had a beta burp.

    8. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by MoofOntario · · Score: 1

      you can type in the name of a company in the same spot you would type in a ticker symbol. That's why, below that box, it offers the tip, 'e.g. "Google", "Cars", "AAPL"'. Indeed, you can just type in the type of company ("Cars") -- try "search engine," for example, and you get links to listings for 50+ companies that (presumably) all have search engines.

      Hmm good point, the google search box is always at the top... searching for cars wil give you the list of car related companies, which can take you to a specific company, which then you can click "Add to Portfolio"... which ends up back on the Add to Portfolio page for you to add the cost basis and number of shares. Nice. Seems like a lot of page flipping to do this, but I guess the other sites are just as bad.

    9. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by MoofOntario · · Score: 1

      How odd, here in the USA I was able to pull up CM right away. Maybe you had a beta burp.

      That's true (which I figured out after my original post), but you can't add it to your portfolio. At least it's smart enough to only put the "Add to Portfolio" link on the stock summary page for American listed stocks..

    10. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by MoofOntario · · Score: 1

      Check back in 2009 when version 1.0 is released.

      So soon? :)

    11. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by GoofyBoy · · Score: 1

      Try TSE:CM

      Whats sad is that you can't have non-US stocks in your portfolio. Have no idea why, beta or non-beta.

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    12. Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, and no symbol search for the noobs.. that's going to be convenient

      Bitch, bitch, bitch. No symbol search? Just enter the NAME of the company to get its data (including its ticker symbol). You don't have to know a company's stock symbol to use it.

      Have several portfolio's you are watching? Enter each portfolio's tickers in the search box once and get a summary list with today's performance figures for each stock. Bookmark these searches and you have instant access to the performance of all stocks in each of your portfolios. Click on any of the company names or tickers to get details, historical info or news.

      Seems damned useful to me and avoids all the relentlessly useless information presented by Yahoo.

  26. Take a look at stock page by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Enter a stock and see the page that comes up. Despite the fact it uses Flash it is actually nicely implemented. Drag the viewing range of the stock around and you will see the associated news entries change to show what happened in those periods - nice!

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    1. Re:Take a look at stock page by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      Actually, right now I'm not browsing with Flash, and it then falls back gracefully to display GIF graphs instead. They aren't interactive, but at least it's not replaced by empty boxes asking me to install Flash.

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    2. Re:Take a look at stock page by panaceaa · · Score: 1

      Despite the fact it uses Flash it is actually nicely implemented.

      If you don't have Flash, Google Finance will automatically degrade itself to using static images. I noticed it myself after using Google Finance on my desktop, and then showing someone it on a server machine (without Flash).

  27. Google Finance Info by VeryHotTopic · · Score: 1

    Google is good at bringing info together. The links to many different sites in this case will work. All in all you'll get a less biased view.

  28. Bah! No message boards ... by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 3, Funny

    How am I supposed to pump and dump? bash and stash?

    1. Re:Bah! No message boards ... by MacJedi · · Score: 1
      See, eg this "message board"

      HTH

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  29. Yahoo learned nothing by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    I can't visit Yahoo finance anymore. The ads give me seisures.

    This is exactly how Google killed them years ago.

    1. Re:Yahoo learned nothing by Marz_Bug · · Score: 1

      I agree. Can't stand the ads. Just want info about the stock and nothing else. I would really like to see what they do with beta 2.0. I wonder if they are going to add real time quotes.

    2. Re:Yahoo learned nothing by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      What ads?

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  30. No OTC:BB by everphilski · · Score: 1

    No over the counter bulletin board stocks. Wake me up when they support em :P

  31. Re:Wrong Just Wrong by offput · · Score: 0

    Yes because they've been so innovative in selecting their non-search engine services. With their e-mail service, mapping service, and purchasing any interesting technology they see... Google succeeds by putting a Google 'plain and functional' web 2.0 veneer on the ideas of others. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I like google's simple approach and use quite a few of their services that doesn't mean they are the sole (or even primary) innovators in the web right now.

  32. plain and hacked together? by tvon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Would you prefer if there were obfuscated controls and banner ads?

    Do you want to go ahead and quickly hack up a page like this:

    http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=16701613

    ?

    Google thrives on the simple and powerful interfaces they create. It's half of what got them where they are today.

  33. Do you trust Google with finance information? by Pennywisdom2099 · · Score: 1

    I would think with Google's track record of recording and storing anything and everything they come across that people would be less than willing to provide them with your bank account information as well as all of the stock investments you have made. They're great, don't get me wrong I use them every day, but I don't trust them to index my entire hard drive and I certainly don't trust them with all my investment information.

    1. Re:Do you trust Google with finance information? by filterban · · Score: 1
      I would think with Google's track record of recording and storing anything and everything they come across that people would be less than willing to provide them with your bank account information as well as all of the stock investments you have made.

      At least Google has a backbone when they are asked to hand this information over to the authorities. It seems to me like they understand what's at stake. All of the search engines have this data; Google is no different. MSN handed it over blindly - would you rather let them have your personal info than Google?

      Also, you don't enter your bank account info. All you're entering is which stock tickers you want to track and how much of each you have, so that you can know how much $$ you've been making or losing.

      Overall, it could use some more features, but it's pretty slick if you ask me.

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  34. Real time quotes by DrXym · · Score: 1

    I thought you had to pay a lot of money per user to display realtime quotes. Is Google really doing that, or are we about to seem them get slapped by the NYSE & Nasdaq?

    1. Re:Real time quotes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course not, note the disclaimer

      "Information is provided 'as is' and solely for informational purposes, not for trading purposes or advice. Index data is in real-time. Quotes are delayed 15 minutes for Nasdaq, 20 minutes for AMEX and NYSE."

      Yahoo is laughing at Google today.

    2. Re:Real time quotes by Jason69 · · Score: 1

      Quotes are delayed 20 minutes just like you would expect. The disclaimer is right under the chart.

    3. Re:Real time quotes by thrillseeker · · Score: 1
      Yahoo is laughing at Google today.

      How about tomorrow?

    4. Re:Real time quotes by DrXym · · Score: 1
      Quotes are delayed 20 minutes just like you would expect. The disclaimer is right under the chart.

      Except it wasn't delayed and it still isn't delayed. For example, check out the timestamp on this quote for AMZN compared to this post - "Real-Time ECN: 35.92 -0.31 (-0.86%) Mar 21, 3:01PM ET". It states quite clearly it is a realtime quote. Other symbols like IBM and even more obscure ones also show realtime quotes.

  35. Re:In Other Words... by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    That's a great idea! My only request is that I get to be an Alpha.

    Sorry man, their motto is 'Do no gEvil.'

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  36. eww Flash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    why not make the whole site Flash if you are going to base the (very important) charts on it
    i was looking forward to some more DHTML enhancement with static images (eg. maps.google), instead we get a slow, plugin based site, and as Macromedia Flash is banned in a lot of companies who exactly is the target market ?
    seems like others said, this was just hacked together, there are numerous flash charting components but i dot see them on Forbes,FinancialTimes,Yahoo, and just about any business orientated site why do you think that is ? if Flash was really the right tool we would see them everywhere by now

    keep it clean

  37. Nice.... by j3one · · Score: 1
    mmm, this is very interesting...

    So, if I am logged in does it keep track of what stocks I watch? As a fun experiment I am currently investing in middle east ventures and companies as well as searching for random things like "plane", "bomb", "how_to_blow_up_usa", "nuculear_weapon_wholesale".... As well as using my gmail and email to send messages containing terms like, "praise allah" and "strike tonight!!". I leave my google toolbar open full throttle and use all the google apps, just to increase odds. Its nice to have another tool!

    (just kidding about all that), but seriously... Take it from me, we should be watchdoging google AND the government here. I have to admit, if I was in the government and it was my job to protect the US, I would want to be a sneaky little twerp and spy on people... BUT, last time I checked we were supposed to be living in a democracy. I don't think its like the old days where we can do what the pilgrims ended up doing with England... I mean, they may not take Arkansas and Las Angelas, but the rest of the usa is severely under weapons if our government turns away from democracy. One tool they ARE behind on is the internet, but they are working hard to close the gap. I fear though, other countries and private corporations are far ahead in some aspects of internet espionage...

    Oh, but about the new service... cool beans! Google freakin wrocks!

  38. Here's a test. by babbling · · Score: 1

    There's a good test to see whether a site is clean or just lacking features:

    What do you want it to do that it doesn't already do?

  39. Did anybody actually look at the site? by ibjhb · · Score: 1

    Take a look at:

    http://finance.google.com/finance?q=goog&btnG=Sear ch

    Seems to me, they have some cool features that the other finance sites are lacking. I, personally, really like the site!

  40. Whatever for now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of you just stay on Google's nuts... Is this site really that serious yet? No! Sure it has potential but Yahoo is much further along so think before you worship Google just because they're Google.

    No company is perfect and this site has shown nothing so far to convince me otherwise. Down the road, maybe. But for now I'm not going to allow let Google bust a nut on my face as they're doing with some of you "Google Groupies" out there.

  41. Plain? Are you kidding? by Pedrito · · Score: 4, Informative

    The site finance.google.com seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.

    Obviously you didn't get past the first page which is thankfully as close to plain as it can be. Here's one very good argument for having a very plain front page: It loads fast. Then you get where you really want to be faster.

    Even on the main page there's some technically cool stuff. Hover over the market indexes and the graph changes to the one you're hovering over. They've got that in a few places. Go to the main page for a ticker and hover over individuals listed in Management and it gives you more info. In fact, if you do it on the GOOG ticker, it even shows pictures in the pop-up.

    Trying hovering over the graph and it gives you data specific to the day or time that you're hovering over in the upper right. You can scroll the graphs to look back in history instead of having to change the time periods. You can select a fixed time period like Yahoo, or you can drag the start and end of the time period for the graph. This is some cool stuff.

    Now, when you call it "plain", what are you comparing it to? Yahoo? Because Yahoo isn't anywhere near this tricked-out. As for the data, it doesn't appear to be any more out of date than Yahoo's data. It has the real time ECN just like Yahoo and the rest of the market data is probably 15-20 minutes delayed just like every other free financial site on the web.

    Personally, my first impression is that it's exceptionally well designed. It's a great first cut and barring any major disasters, I suspect I'll switch over to it from Yahoo Finance.

    1. Re:Plain? Are you kidding? by bsp123 · · Score: 1

      Google is running out of ways to leverage their search engine.
      Check out the detailed info on SYMC: http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=546053

      In the "Management" section, hover over their CEO: John Thompson.

      - Symantec's CEO is John "W." Thompson, NOT John "M." Thompson
      - The picture of John "W." Thompson shows that he is a 63-year old WHITE man.

      John "W." Thompson is actually one of the few BLACK CEO's in High Tech. A simple Google search proves that. Even if it wasn't a well-known fact.

      Something tells me they're hiring Indian data entry "experts" to populate these pages. Or maybe Google has a gripe against Symantec...

      If the rest of the financial info in Google Finance is manually entered, I'm certainly not going to rely on it. Unlike the Web, financial data changes very fast.

  42. par for the course by mvnicosia · · Score: 1

    Google always gets products out in early forms and then updates them. That's their mantra. It will come together more...

  43. What's next? by hcdejong · · Score: 1

    Those obnoxious stock symbol links (AAPL) everywhere in Google News stories, then in all search results?

  44. funny disclaimer by groovy.ambuj · · Score: 1

    Stock Quotes Disclaimer You agree not to copy, modify, reformat, __download__, store, reproduce, reprocess or redistribute any data or information found herein or use any such data or.... how can i view data w/o downloading on my comp at least in memory? :-)

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    1. Re:funny disclaimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait... you mean you don't actually walk to your local google server to submit queries?

  45. Boy, these guys really have it in for Google! by Nexus7 · · Score: 1

    Quote (allegedly from Forbes article):
    "and that the information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions. "

    This stinks of scraping the botton of the barrel to find something bad to say about Google. Unless you have direct exchange feeds and are in constant direct contact with officers in all the listed firms, you're always getting information collected from various sources, whether you're Yahoo or Google or some guy at Starbucks.

    As to use for "buy & sell" decisions, that comment smacks of the contempt that firms like Forbes have for consumers. They have one type of trade in mind, where you use information fresh from analysts who are plugged into a stock, and call the correct time to buy exactly. In reality, very few trades hinge on the few minutes or even hours that secondary news sources take to publish the news from primary sources. Exceptions might be IPOs (which are hard to get into for other reasons anyway), really bad news for a stock (in which case panic selling or even trading being halted by the exchange would be bigger factors), and intraday or tick-based selling (for which sources like Forbes, or Yahoo, or Google aren't even relevant anyway, since you need a live tick feed from someone like Thomson or Reuters).

  46. how about google fiance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A dating service!

    1. Re:how about google fiance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically Google could do that but their matches would be so perfect as to eliminate the thrill of romantic conquest. Ha-ho-ha-hey-hoo.

    2. Re:how about google fiance? by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      The only perfect match a Slashdotter would get from Google Fiance would be to here.

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  47. Depends on what you want ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Generally I want the first page itself to contain all the recent quote I've looked up and details like that.

    I rarely do a trackback on a particular share to get the price on a past date or time-frame. The monthlu fluctuations of the stock market are interesting, but not really a big concern for someone who is probably going to do a day trade.

    Also there is the fact that Yahoo! offers real-time streaming quotes for premium paid users. And that group is going to decide where the money flows, not the average techie who can switch finance sites depending on what is cool this week.
    1. Re:Depends on what you want ... by Quikah · · Score: 1

      It has recent quote and portfolio features, but you need to be logged into your gmail account, which kind of makes things a bit tricky since gmail is in perpetual beta and you need to get an invite to make an account.

      The home page doesn't seem to be as customizable as yahoo yet, but I think it is a good first effort, it certainly looks better than yahoo once you start digging into the details.

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      Q.
    2. Re:Depends on what you want ... by Quikah · · Score: 1

      Err wait, looks like you can create an account without having gmail, need to dig around though, they kind of hide it.

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    3. Re:Depends on what you want ... by Eustace+Tilley · · Score: 1
      since gmail is in perpetual beta and you need to get an invite to make an account.


      You only need an invitation to create a gmail account if you do not have a cellphone. Sign up via SMS here.
    4. Re:Depends on what you want ... by rm69990 · · Score: 1

      A regular Google account, which you can get using any regular email address without being invited, will work fine.

  48. Long term view by caudron · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions.

    Yes, but the nature of the data collected and the way in which it is presented (the clear connection between event and price change and other things) makes it quite useful for planning investment strategy for a given company.

    As with any such site, more research would have to be done for a given long term investment, but this does make a great starting place for that research. That is the great benefit to being the aggregator rather than the source. They pull together a lot of data from some other great sources and put it together in a way that makes the whole better, in some ways, than the sum of the parts. (C.f., Google News for another example)

    At risk of sounding like a GOOG fanboy, they've batted another home run. We get a solid resource for long term investment, and they get access to our portfolios. Everyone wins (excepting the privacy concerns that are a legitimate tangent to nearly every google story).

    Tom Caudron
    http://tom.digitalelite.com/

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  49. Google's Golden Days Gone? by Hellboy0101 · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who thinks that Google's true innovation has slipped? Most of the new stuff Google is rolling out is already being done by someone else (you can argue until you're blue in the face as to whether or not they are doing it better than everyone else). Their search engine was revolutionary, but this seems too evolutionary for the kind of talent they have. Come on Google, blow us away like you used to.

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    1. Re:Google's Golden Days Gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Erm.. so let me get this straight. No one was doing search before they did?

  50. Re:In Other Words... by eno2001 · · Score: 1

    There will be no "Alphas" because the machines will take their place. All humans will be subject to perfect machine law and machine rule. Don't worry though because in essence, we will be their pets and will be well taken care of.

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  51. not like their G drive? by speculatrix · · Score: 1

    before I RTFA'd I thought it might be a currency version of the G drive - just upload all your money to Google for safe keeping, where they will index all the serial numbers, and you can get to download it whenever you need it. And when the government come to ask for it, they will refuse as much as possible!

  52. ubercool charts? by LordOfTheNoobs · · Score: 1
    For the ubercool interactive charts, you need to install the Macromedia Flash Player
    Sweet!
    http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=13756934
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  53. Re:In Other Words... by Disavian · · Score: 1

    void Main()
    {
          do{
                Evil();
          }while(true)
    };

    gives a compiler error at Google.

  54. try this by jgold03 · · Score: 1

    Try this: look at some stocks, and then check the main page

    It added the recently viewed quotes to your main page and started to aggregate articles based on those stocks. Pretty nifty.

  55. Financial information from WHAT? by slavemowgli · · Score: 0

    Maybe it's just me, but I'm not sure I'd trust financial information from a site called "fool.com" of all things.

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  56. an ActiveX control on this page is not safe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    please see your administrator

    is all it says for me here at work (f500 large corp)

  57. When can I.... by Ponder+Stibions · · Score: 1

    have my current portfolio data on my google homepage like gmail? Then I can check my email, stocks, newsheadlines, etc, when I open my internet browser.

    1. Re:When can I.... by MatthewHays · · Score: 1

      www.google.com/ig

  58. Google is getting into content quickly by sciman · · Score: 0

    Look out Yahoo! Your Alexa rating is about to be taken over by the Google Monster.

    Kevin Dill
    http://ushightech.com/

  59. Chart by Jeff+Molby · · Score: 1
    Usually when Google calls something "Beta" it at least shows one cool thing.
    Click and drag the chart a la Google Maps.
    1. Re:Chart by rm69990 · · Score: 1

      The two are actually quite different. Google Maps uses AJAX, this uses Flash.

  60. Is it me, or the tables have turned...? by keepper · · Score: 1

    Google is now becoming more like yahoo.. which brings up the question... Why switch when yahoo does many things like these better? Have the tables turned? where the "innovation?, i just see some pretty graphs, and not even the same amount of info.

    PS: Yes, i do work for Yahoo, but not related to this product, so my opinions are just that, my opinions.

  61. Something is better than nothing by mmalove · · Score: 1

    I look at this kind of like I do Google News, which you can route to your Google homepage. It's a mock up. A first run. I don't expect it to be perfect. I tried google news for a while, and found the stories there weren't as interesting as what was feeding through CNN and slashdot. I turned it off. But given some time, maybe they will turn it around. I'm sure they didn't start out the top search engine either, but experience and persistence work wonders.

    The only thing from Google I didn't like was their toolbar - and I specifically didn't like it because I found it was autopackaged into certain softwares as an opt out instead of an opt in. Meaning the default option was to install the toolbar, and the user had to take special measures not to install a potentially browser wrecking software.

    I prefer my software like a salad bar - where I get to choose what goes on the plate, rather than someone else deciding a piece of lemon would make the dish look better.

    But I digress. Grats to Google for entering a new market, I look forward to seeing what innovations they might bring! //end rant

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  62. SICKENING FANBOYISM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The site barely has anything on it and Slashdotters are praising it simply because it has the Google name. Do me a favor, go look at Yahoo Finance, with its stock screeners, advanced portfolio, coverage of various markets - including bonds, ETFs and Mutual Funds. Then tell me if this isn't just another case of dorks drooling over the latest Google offering.

  63. Yes!! by Beefslaya · · Score: 0

    Announcing Google Crap!

    crap.google.com!

    Seems like they could have polished it a little more before release.

    Is a page full of RSS feeds gonna become Industry standard?

    I think a company like Google could put together a little more funding for web development, especially in this world of rich Internet Apps.

    Get on the cutting edge Google!

  64. Google Share Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now you can see it's value declining with even more ease.

  65. AMAZING by boxxa · · Score: 1

    I would have to say I love it. Great interface and another great technology by Google.

    Man, their picking fights with MSN and now YAHOO! Whos next?

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  66. good start by Fedarkyn · · Score: 1

    looks like a good start, but it's too simplistic even for a beta.

  67. Actually, a pretty neat community awareness thing by mixonic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So I looked at this initially with the same elitism and disdain of any slashdotter...but take a look at this link of google: http://www.google.com/finance?q=google&btnG=Search &hl=en

    Ignore the stupid sliders, and maybe yahoo already did all this but...

    - Flags on signifigant news and where it fell on the stock's timeline, COOL

    - Blog posts about the company, ties into the current buzz, COOL

    - Hooks into google groups to see discussions going on about said company, COOL

    Simply a great way to see where a company is both financially, and in the net community's eyes. Simple, but neat.

    Oh, and check out Viacom: http://www.google.com/finance?cid=703770
    The blog posts about tom cruise and south park? see, that is damn cool.

    -mix

  68. google does everything! well, almost everything... by Geno+Z+Heinlein · · Score: 1

    ... google has rolled out a finance site.

    If they ever release sex.google.com, I won't need any other sites!

  69. Today's REAL Google story: Gmail is gorked up by King+Babar · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    From comments on other blogs, I know my experience is not unique. The number of temporary glitches and server errors has been increasing recently. Today, I can't even get on the system because it's been Server Error all morning.

    I love gmail greatly, and would gladly pay for it. If the stability of the thing were improved. Right now, I'm in the really bad situation of depending on Gmail for non-trivial things, and if this lasts much longer, I might have to switch to some other service.

    On the topic of *this* thread...the big problem with finance.google.com is indeed the lack of acquisition data for holdings in your portfolio. You really want and need that, especially come tax time if you need to claim cap gains and losses.

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  70. Once again, another very US-centric service by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    As usual, this Google service is very US-centric. Too bad lots of US investors also invest overseas.

    I tried to import my portfolio from Yahoo! finance - "We will support international symbols shortly"

    Well, considering that I have been waiting for my Google Homepage to support them for about 8 months now, I wonder how long "shortly" will be.

    Simmilar problems exist trying to add weather on the Google homepage, even if you know the international airport code for the area, it will get you nowhere. Works fine on My Yahoo!.

  71. Misleading Service by HaloZero · · Score: 1

    I want a service that can handle and tabulate my finances online. That way, the IRS can just subpoena google every mid-april, and I don't have to file my taxes that year! Google can do it for me!

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  72. Re:Actually, a pretty neat community awareness thi by N6546R · · Score: 1

    I was surprised to see info about the consulting firm that I work for, which is privately held (http://finance.google.com/finance?q=collaborative +consulting), including pictures of our officers. Perry

  73. Finance by certel · · Score: 1

    Had the opportunity to use it today and was impressed. Nice and simple, gives good information but I wouldn't have expected less. I like the nice touch with the Blogs. Good little feature.

  74. Quick hack? by nilbog · · Score: 1
    You think this is a quick hack? Gimmie a break! I defy you to find any finance tool nearly as awesome.

    Let's be honest, did you even look at it before making that comment?

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  75. fourth headline.... by zxnos · · Score: 1

    this was the fourth headline on the page when i looked....

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  76. Impressive by luckynoone · · Score: 1

    Damn fine work on Google's part. This is the best interface for stock information I have seen on the entire internet. Everything you need in terms of details are all together and simply laid out with a sweet AJAX news/price chart. Bravo Google. Bravo.

  77. Using with Google's API? by Moskie · · Score: 1

    Could the data you get from finance.google.com be accessed in a reasonable manner using their API?

  78. quick hack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey, that's the google "sleek modernist" web interface, not a quick hack.

  79. Re:In Other Words... by wmaker · · Score: 1

    probably because you have a syntax error on the last line, no ';' needed at the end of your scope.

  80. Looks good, charts lacking... by cyngus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Overall I think it looks good. One thing I really like about the chart is that as you change the date it updates the news articles to that time period, which is great if you're just looking at a new stock and want to see what that 30% dip 10 months ago was about. On the downside, the little boxes linking to the news stories are nice, but overall annoying, there should be a way to turn them off. Having them on the chart makes it much harder to read technically. Charting should also have at least basic technical analysis tools like Yahoo! Finance where you can get moving averages, volatility metrics, etc. Plus, you've got to have the ability to view the chart on a logarithmic scale. Its a nice start, but its not enough to get me to start using it instead of Yahoo! Finance. If they enrich the charting capabilities, then we might be in business.

  81. Feature requests: Log Plot, Multiple Tickers by markroth8 · · Score: 1

    Has anyone figured out if it's possible to do a log scale plot? How about comparing two tickers on the same chart?

  82. MarketWatch early review by imsirovic5 · · Score: 1

    Early reviews are in for Google Finance

    March 21, 2006 12:32:05 (ET)

    SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Thumbs-down for Google Finance.

    That's what some hedge-fund managers -- the investment pros most likely to short Google -- told me after checking out the latest service launched by the most popular search engine in the world.

    And, to some extent, I agree with them.

    Launched Tuesday, Google's (GOOG, Trade) latest, Google Finance -- with its perfunctory quotes, news headlines, charts and the like -- is not terribly impressive, partly because it looks so much like other finance sites created years ago, notably Yahoo Finance.

    'This was one of our most requested features by our users last year.'

    Sonya Boralv, Google

    Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised, actually, given that Katie Stanton, a former Yahoo (YHOO, Trade) employee, is running Google's new vertical.

    To be fair, there are some interesting features, like a very cool chart and news mash-up. In it, Google has taken its charts and news and integrated them so that readers can see where the stock was trading as particular news hit. People do this all the time -- look at news, and the time it hit, and then go to a chart and pinpoint the time. But it's eliminating the interim steps that makes Google stock charts instantly appealing.

    But besides an interactive chart, there is nothing innovative or certainly spectacular about the new service. Where are the real-time, live quotes? Where's the related video? Where are the open application programming interfaces, or APIs, so that techies can add maps and other neat tools that Google hasn't thought of?

    Google doesn't have open APIs at present, but it's something the search engine "might look at doing in the future," said Google spokeswoman Sonya Boralv, in an e-mail.

    To be sure, Google doesn't need bells and whistles to be good. It just needs to be relevant. And, that is, of course, yet to be seen.

    As I understand it, Google will put more weight on what it deems "authoritative" news sources. One has to ask, however, what Google will deem "authoritative."

    In keeping with Google's search and news-aggregation business model, the site directs Web users to the sites of its partners to view content and serves up no display ads on Google's own pages. So Google won't be getting the ad revenue.

    Google may not even require its financial-news partners to pay the search monster for traffic. Among the financial sites Google directs traffic to are CNet, Forbes.com, Reuters, Bloomberg, and Dow Jones & Co., the publisher of this column.

    So why is Google doing this, pitting itself against its news partners? For starters, if you haven't noticed, Google's moved well beyond its search-engine roots. Despite its dominant position in the search business, Google's services are threatening to more than its search rivals, Yahoo (YHOO, Trade) and Microsoft's (MSFT, Trade) MSN.

    Google competes with the portals and Internet service providers for e-mail customers via Gmail. Google's Froogle and GBase services compete with eBay (EBAY, Trade) and others. Its video store competes with Apple's (AAPL, Trade). Google Talk might one day compete with cable companies, like Comcast.

    It's also likely that Google is entering the vertical market because it's noticing that a substantial number of users go to Google News and type in "goog" or "aapl" -- or other letter combinations, or full names of publicly held companies -- which it reads as requests for stock data and the latest related news from some 4,500 sources.

    "We can't provide any details on the number of searches for stock quotes but can tell you that we have had a lot of user demand for more in-depth financial information. This was one of our most requested features by our users last year," said Boralv.

    Moreover, traffic to finance sites has grown faster than traffic to Internet sites overall. Traffic to financial-news and information sites grew 10% in February, according to N

  83. Re: Yes, they get their data direct by dch24 · · Score: 1
    IIRC google finance is getting their data directly from the following exchanges.

    Further, they say that they are getting the data direct in their blog.

    Also, look again at the blog: Canadian Venture Exchange and Toronto Stock Exchange.

  84. Ah :/ by digismack · · Score: 1

    When I first read the title I was thinking this was going to be a personal finance management app of sorts. Would be pretty cool. Although I wouldn't exactly want that information to be saved on Google servers.

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  85. APIs? by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    One thing about Google is that they (sometimes) open up their APIs. For Free Software financial apps, it would be really great to have a free stock quotes feed that was realtime.

  86. Zooming by apankrat · · Score: 1

    It might not be a quick hack, but it definitely didn't go through a proper usability testing and evaluation.

    The fact that it does a cool zoom effect when you click somewhere does not excuse the absence of 'insider transactions' link on the stock page. And neither does it justify the presence of company address, summary and management list. Leave alone some useless blog links. The view is overcrowded with information that is not needed on a day-to-day basis. And it rather feels more like a 'miscellaneous information' page than a concise summary.

    And in this light, finance.google.com is almost an exact opposite of google.com, which is indeed an "everything you need, nothing you don't" deal.

    Unless Google will allow customizing stock views, I don't see how this thing can take off the ground at all. Sure it looks nice, but it is barely usable. Though of course it is very subjective take on things.

    PS. Yahoo Finance got it nearly perfect. No pretty graphs, which I'm sure they will add shortly and which are not critical to have anyway.

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    1. Re:Zooming by RingDev · · Score: 1

      "Yahoo Finance [yahoo.com] got it nearly perfect."

      Other then the huge ass banner that takes up most of my browser window. Once you get to the actual fund view it is pretty slick.

      -Rick

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    2. Re:Zooming by rm69990 · · Score: 1

      Firefox+Adblock (or Camino, which has an ad blocked built in) is your best friend.

  87. And as usiual by RagingFuryBlack · · Score: 1

    And of course, this will be in beta for the next 50 years, as every other google service is :).

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  88. Good start by ecuador_gr · · Score: 1

    As history has proven, something by google cannot, by definition, be "something quickly hacked together". I agree with most posters in that the pages are better organised than google.
    I am now expecting google to give us even more. What more? An example is some basic analysis that a Stony Brook university project I worked on provides: www.textbiz.org.

  89. A mind is a terrible thing to waste by gammoth · · Score: 1
    The site finance.google.com seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.

    It's time to put down the pipe.

  90. I like the context search by inKubus · · Score: 1

    Check this out, type "nanotechnology" in the finance search box or click.

    You get a list of 60 nanotechnology related companies. I'm assuming it searches by profile or industry. With a more advanced search language, you could pull up very selective lists of stocks. The hard part to trading is finding a stock in the sector that you like and then comparing it with a few competitors. Google could add some tags so you could do:

    nanotechnology industry:medical peratio:+10.1 eps:>.01

    and get a list of stocks in the medical industry who've mentioned nanotechnology and have a PE ratio of +10.1 and an EPS of greater than 1 cent.

    That would be tight.

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  91. AJAX stock slider is the 'thing' on this page by ricky_charlet · · Score: 1

    Call me slow.. it took me a day to notice that their stock charts are scrollable and seem to be implemented on AJAX (like google maps). I was slow to notice becuase of how dramatically this exceeded my expectations.

    So assuming that google can get their news feeds up to snuff, then this interactive stock chart will beat yahoo finance the same way that google maps beat mapquest/mapblast. It is way less irritating to use.