I feel that you don't quiet understand that the entire job of the Psychic Hotline is to fleece people, same as the current board of HP.
I can see their new line-up of products for the dead, it will be a huge success they say, after all there are more people dead than there are alive so it's a very large untapped market.
That would be one way they could fail worse than the current board. Although I probably shouldn't give the current board any ideas.
Some are of course aircraft that is still in development, such as the UFO's you would see around Area 51.
Some could be as of yet unexplained atmospheric phenomena, such as the foo fighters seen during WW2 and by the Apollo astronauts.
Some could be extraterrestrials, but that is doubtful. And if they do exist I imagine they have much the same relationship as we have with monkeys. We may abduct one now and then, probe them, and return them, but we aren't going to try to get them to co-exist in our society.
Stolen property is not legally recoverable after the limit expires.
Um, yes it is.
From Wikipedia under art theft.
Three paintings by Georgia O'Keeffe were stolen while on display at the art gallery of her husband, Alfred Stieglitz. The paintings were eventually found by O'Keeffe following their purchase by the Princeton Gallery of Fine Arts for $35,000 in 1975. O'Keeffe sued the museum for their return and, despite a six-year statute of limitations on art theft, a state appellate court ruled in her favor on July 27, 1979
Would it be ok if they snagged enough stuff that they wouldn't be able to successfully launch?
Is that the question you are asking? If so I imagine that he didn't answer that question because it was too fucking stupid so instead he answered the question you should have asked.
Of course it is not ok to snag enough stuff that you can't launch and you die, are you really that stupid?
Actually since they understand the product better than the board and have a good idea of how the customers use and view the product they probably would generate better leadership.
I was going to suggest that they fire the CEO and get someone who will do the job for less compensation and no golden parachute. I figure if they do that then their applicant pool would open up to up and comers who want to prove themselves while hopefully turning away those who just want a big payday.
But your idea of firing the board probably makes more sense.
Yes, they could mount weapons in the internal bays, the question is what kind of weapons, I doubt conventional.
One of the big benefits of this platform is that they can launch the twinkie, have the twinkie let loose a short term satellite, and then recover the satellite to bring back home. Excellent for short term surveillance that cannot be predicted.
A couple of claymores on the outside of the satellite would probably be enough
I rather doubt claymores are being attached to satellites. Now it is possible they have added some electronics to detect tampering, but even that is doubtful.
I can understand why originally it might not have had encryption, but after it was found out in the Balkans that the video feed was being intercepted they should have done something about it then, long before most of the Predators currently in use were even built.
What I find almost criminal is that the new drones in development such as the Avenger use the same ground support infrastructure. It's one thing to have a glaring design flaw in a first run product, but when you make changes to the design to the extent they are with the Avenger you really should fix something as major as this.
The signal they are receiving is not coming from the Predators at all. The signal they are receiving is the satellite downlink for the soldiers in the field, not the signal to the operators of the Predator. It also gives a pretty good explanation as to why it is not encrypted.
So my arguments have been correct except for that VHS comment.
yep, talked before doing basic research, went off something half told. I came back here to say my bad and I see you've already replied.
Now, as to the possibility of this virus coming from a hacked video feed. Have the insurgents had any luck at all of even jamming this feed? Should be easy enough if you are to the point of being able to inject custom code for whatever computer might be on the other end. All those guys we blow up, they still don't see them coming. Are they even able to decode the transmission in real time to be able to save their own bacon? As it said in the article you linked no missions have been compromised.
This is most probably a run of the mill mbr virus on some drive that gets plugged in every now and then.
I'm not saying they did it, but you can't think that way about countries of any size at all
I am sure the Vatican would have no issues infiltrating US Military security, North Korea or Iran, not so much.
Iran can pay all the coders they like, but if they do not know how the security is set up and what precautions to take then they will not be effective. That requires inside intel, which is something I don't think Iran will get on it's own. Yes, China has proven again and again that they can get inside the US Military networks, Iran on the other hand still hasn't figured out how to get Stuxnet off their own computers.
I would bet that if you did not put in the title that you were going to get modded as a troll you wouldn't have.
I bet the mod who put you as troll just did it to fuck with you over your title. There was not a single point in your post that was troll'ish, not only that but what you said corresponds with most peoples viewpoint around here.
If they could hack the signal it would be easier to gain control of the drones than it would be to install a computer virus on a computer half a world away, also more productive.
In two years, they were able to exploit this widely known vulnerability to install a keylogger on the control station
There is a key logger on the military's computers, but the likely hood that it was reverse engineered from the unencrypted video stream is well impossible. Remember the video feed is only being broadcasted, much like a TV station. The drones use a different method entirely for control. The insurgents aren't even able to jam the signal, let alone intercept it and inject a virus into it.
If it was that easy the insurgents wouldn't be installing key loggers on the operators computers that in a totally different country, they would be controlling the drones themselves.
However, you could probably hack an unprotected computer using a digital tuner to receive that data over the air. That is likely what happened here.
Can you elaborate this point better because that doesn't make sense? You can't hack something just by receiving data from, it has to be two way.
They are not hacking the control software, all they are doing is receiving an unencrypted video feed.
You do not get anywhere close to being able to hack a drone just because you receive something similar to a TV station. You wouldn't be able to hack a TV station though a TV signal and you can't hack a drone though it's video feed.
Not quite, everything "absorbs" electricity when struck by lightning. For a short time at least, the energy usually gets converted to heat rather quickly.
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One of our HP printers got replaced by an Oki and it sucked balls. It has now been replaced again by another HP.
Perhaps we just got a poor model, but that has been my only experience with Oki so far.
I feel that you don't quiet understand that the entire job of the Psychic Hotline is to fleece people, same as the current board of HP.
I can see their new line-up of products for the dead, it will be a huge success they say, after all there are more people dead than there are alive so it's a very large untapped market.
That would be one way they could fail worse than the current board. Although I probably shouldn't give the current board any ideas.
Some are of course aircraft that is still in development, such as the UFO's you would see around Area 51.
Some could be as of yet unexplained atmospheric phenomena, such as the foo fighters seen during WW2 and by the Apollo astronauts.
Some could be extraterrestrials, but that is doubtful. And if they do exist I imagine they have much the same relationship as we have with monkeys. We may abduct one now and then, probe them, and return them, but we aren't going to try to get them to co-exist in our society.
Stolen property is not legally recoverable after the limit expires.
Um, yes it is.
From Wikipedia under art theft.
Three paintings by Georgia O'Keeffe were stolen while on display at the art gallery of her husband, Alfred Stieglitz. The paintings were eventually found by O'Keeffe following their purchase by the Princeton Gallery of Fine Arts for $35,000 in 1975. O'Keeffe sued the museum for their return and, despite a six-year statute of limitations on art theft, a state appellate court ruled in her favor on July 27, 1979
Would it be ok if they snagged enough stuff that they wouldn't be able to successfully launch?
Is that the question you are asking? If so I imagine that he didn't answer that question because it was too fucking stupid so instead he answered the question you should have asked.
Of course it is not ok to snag enough stuff that you can't launch and you die, are you really that stupid?
Actually since they understand the product better than the board and have a good idea of how the customers use and view the product they probably would generate better leadership.
I was going to suggest that they fire the CEO and get someone who will do the job for less compensation and no golden parachute. I figure if they do that then their applicant pool would open up to up and comers who want to prove themselves while hopefully turning away those who just want a big payday.
But your idea of firing the board probably makes more sense.
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Yes, they could mount weapons in the internal bays, the question is what kind of weapons, I doubt conventional.
One of the big benefits of this platform is that they can launch the twinkie, have the twinkie let loose a short term satellite, and then recover the satellite to bring back home. Excellent for short term surveillance that cannot be predicted.
A couple of claymores on the outside of the satellite would probably be enough
I rather doubt claymores are being attached to satellites. Now it is possible they have added some electronics to detect tampering, but even that is doubtful.
Physical access to satellites.
How likely is it that the Air Force already has this developed and is just bringing this out of the closet?
If people cared about file size bloat they wouldn't be purchasing the most megapixels possible.
After all, memory is cheap.
I can understand why originally it might not have had encryption, but after it was found out in the Balkans that the video feed was being intercepted they should have done something about it then, long before most of the Predators currently in use were even built.
What I find almost criminal is that the new drones in development such as the Avenger use the same ground support infrastructure. It's one thing to have a glaring design flaw in a first run product, but when you make changes to the design to the extent they are with the Avenger you really should fix something as major as this.
Did a little more digging, here is an article with some pretty good information.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/intercepting_pr.html
The signal they are receiving is not coming from the Predators at all. The signal they are receiving is the satellite downlink for the soldiers in the field, not the signal to the operators of the Predator. It also gives a pretty good explanation as to why it is not encrypted.
So my arguments have been correct except for that VHS comment.
Can someone mod that post just plain wrong for me?
yep, talked before doing basic research, went off something half told. I came back here to say my bad and I see you've already replied.
Now, as to the possibility of this virus coming from a hacked video feed. Have the insurgents had any luck at all of even jamming this feed? Should be easy enough if you are to the point of being able to inject custom code for whatever computer might be on the other end. All those guys we blow up, they still don't see them coming. Are they even able to decode the transmission in real time to be able to save their own bacon? As it said in the article you linked no missions have been compromised.
This is most probably a run of the mill mbr virus on some drive that gets plugged in every now and then.
You don't quite get just how basic this is.
This is not a data stream, this a VHF TV station broadcast.
I'm not saying they did it, but you can't think that way about countries of any size at all
I am sure the Vatican would have no issues infiltrating US Military security, North Korea or Iran, not so much.
Iran can pay all the coders they like, but if they do not know how the security is set up and what precautions to take then they will not be effective. That requires inside intel, which is something I don't think Iran will get on it's own. Yes, China has proven again and again that they can get inside the US Military networks, Iran on the other hand still hasn't figured out how to get Stuxnet off their own computers.
I would bet that if you did not put in the title that you were going to get modded as a troll you wouldn't have.
I bet the mod who put you as troll just did it to fuck with you over your title. There was not a single point in your post that was troll'ish, not only that but what you said corresponds with most peoples viewpoint around here.
Um, no.
If they could hack the signal it would be easier to gain control of the drones than it would be to install a computer virus on a computer half a world away, also more productive.
In two years, they were able to exploit this widely known vulnerability to install a keylogger on the control station
There is a key logger on the military's computers, but the likely hood that it was reverse engineered from the unencrypted video stream is well impossible. Remember the video feed is only being broadcasted, much like a TV station. The drones use a different method entirely for control. The insurgents aren't even able to jam the signal, let alone intercept it and inject a virus into it.
If it was that easy the insurgents wouldn't be installing key loggers on the operators computers that in a totally different country, they would be controlling the drones themselves.
However, you could probably hack an unprotected computer using a digital tuner to receive that data over the air. That is likely what happened here.
Can you elaborate this point better because that doesn't make sense? You can't hack something just by receiving data from, it has to be two way.
They are not hacking the control software, all they are doing is receiving an unencrypted video feed.
You do not get anywhere close to being able to hack a drone just because you receive something similar to a TV station. You wouldn't be able to hack a TV station though a TV signal and you can't hack a drone though it's video feed.
I'd reply with a copy and paste from the TFA, but that would be around half the article, just read the TFA and it is explained there.
Not quite, everything "absorbs" electricity when struck by lightning. For a short time at least, the energy usually gets converted to heat rather quickly.