The link you provided (the OS FAQ) is one of the most informative I've found yet. Most of what's listed here I've already looked into, I'm playing with the OSKit right now. I was also already planning on looking into GRUB, because I was told it in general worked better, I understand the way LILO works already, but I don't grasp the concept of GRUB (yet), what would be usefull at this point is a programmers comparison of the two diffrent loaders.
This is more of a geekpinion, not so much a reason because well, unfortunatley, if your making a product to mass market for a company, they *will* want it done in linux.
For a developer, the biggest noticeable change from Win32 DLL to Linux ELF Shared Libraries, is this: In windows 95, 98, NT, and 2000 (but not 3.11, which makes me beleive the 3.1x coders were superiour) DLL's get loaded once for each application. Why? In my eyes its to help stop severly sloppy code from crashing everything, which happens anyway, but *shrug*. Under linux, shared libraries only get run into memory once, if i remember correctly, and that's a big resoruce saver.
"On a side note: I originally submitted this article about a week-and-a-half ago. Is this the norm for Slashdot submissions? I'm not bitching or anything, just curious is it normally takes the "Herd of Attack Geese" that long to sift through all the submissions."
I would say, for the ask/. section, that it proably does. I got one aproved yesterday, and I'm not expecting it to show up for a few more days at least.
I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but, Borland is working on Krylix or whatever it is for Linux, and they announced it was going to be working with KDE untill some standards were accepted between the two enviroments. I, personally, dispise KDE, but that's just me, I'm not flaming, I'm stating my *opinion* in a public forum. Now, this makes me wonder if possibly Borland had a hand in this (seemingly nonexistant) agreement.
Shouldn't they be suing Microsoft for having a File menu?... This is absoutley insane. There are *hundreds* of things that this could relate to, they could even sue the University of Washington for making Pine, because, it has, "Informaton for display at a terminal apparatus of a computer is stored in blocks the first part of which contains the information which is actually displayed at the terminal and the second part of which contains information relating to the display and which may be used to influence the display at the time or in response to a keyboard entry signal. "..... *sigh* --- 'dex
The important thing here is this -- Don't overcomplicate your webpages, honestly, as DHTML is cool, how much of a _REAL_ requriement do you have of your page? Is it a form processor, a dynamic frames page, what? Chances are, if you keep it simple, you wont have a problem, and that's the real optimization of web-code. While not true nessiarly in terms of C/C++ programs, it remains true in web development. Lots of people make "Web Optimizers", all they do is basically check for redundant operations, if your fully experienced in your language, you should already be aware of these redundant operations, and already be avoiding them. --- 'dex
I'm using an athlon 700mhz, have been for a few months now, w/ a asus K7M motherboard. I've had absoutley zero problems with this machine under linux, and while not trying to sound like a zelot, nothing but problems under windows. With the pentinum III, I had constant problems under Linux with certian optimizations, yet windows ran perfectly. My geuss is this: It just depends on what your doing. I've got plenty of CPU to go around in the Linux world.. 1405.75 bogomips, woot. However, in Win2k, I noticed qutie offten that the processor useage meter is maxxed when I go to do a bunch of trivial things, like check e-mail, sit on irc, and play mp3's at the same time, however on my 450 pIII laptop, these tasks dont come CLOSE to using all the CPU, and considering in Linux, running X11/XMMS/Pine/Netscape, etc, all at once, my Athlon system reports as having aproximatley 97% CPU free at all times. Sooo... ultimatley, the decision is yours. Mine is this: pIII for Windows, Athlon for Linux. --- 'dex
This is more like, "Turn yourself in".
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This situation is more or less along the lines of... "Hey! Give us your credit card number so we can track you, then investigate you since your obviously only donating because you feel guilty about the fact you possess several peices of pirate music by (insert unnamed band here).".. Hopefully the RIAA dosen't just decide to buy this company so it has all the credit card information to start investigating people. Wouldn't phase me in the slightest. --- 'dex
I am sure they'll discover many uses of it (like playing network games during class and making the teacher's computer crash).
Ah, yes, the teacher's proably going to be running Win9x, I'll be the first one teaching my child how to run linux and knock out her box when she's about to bother him. *snicker* Seriously, though, I've had a laptop since Jr. High, it was a 386/SX with 4 megs of ram, but it ran edit and printed to the school printers fine, now-a-days I tote a pIII 450 notebook back and forth to work, mainly out of habbit, Laptop's have their usefullness, definatley (and when paired with, oh, wireless internet (Like ricochet..), they become a handy portable terminal. Anyhow, its an individuals decision, I personally faire better with a keyboard than I do with a pen. --- 'dex
You, yes you, are a troll, however, you raise an interesting point. Lots of people think Linux sucks, but those of us in the real world have seen how Linux has progressed, it may not be the best for some situations (home gaming/computing), but its in the plan. This "free" 3d engine may be windows based, although the license is "lame", the point is, and the reason it was posted, is because it appeals to the/. community, there's alot of possibility in Linux and windows both, using them together is what's making quite a few companies large amounts of cash flow. You, Mr. Troll, are being naeive. You, fellow slashdotter, in some ways most likely are as well, in the respect that you all proably beleive 'windows sucks'. Both have uses, I run linux religiously in work enviroments and make every attempt to subsititue it for NT, however, I can't exactally play Final Fantasy VII in Linux, and I don't see the wine project making considerable efforts to make it happen (yet). The 3d engine was posted because it's interesting, to some people. Mabye not Mr. Troll, but, I'm sure at least a few (hundred) people found it interesting.
I blame Microsoft, they were trying to bash linux servers, yeah, thats it. Don't forget to mention they COULD do so if they wanted to, they certianly have the cash. Ah, the world is so fun. Honestly, who knows, though.:)
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"...$10 per Windows restart."
They're gunna make millions off their BSOD.
*scoff*
--- 'dex
The link you provided (the OS FAQ) is one of the most informative I've found yet. Most of what's listed here I've already looked into, I'm playing with the OSKit right now. I was also already planning on looking into GRUB, because I was told it in general worked better, I understand the way LILO works already, but I don't grasp the concept of GRUB (yet), what would be usefull at this point is a programmers comparison of the two diffrent loaders.
Thanks everyone who's posted so far,
--- 'dex
This is more of a geekpinion, not so much a reason because well, unfortunatley, if your making a product to mass market for a company, they *will* want it done in linux.
For a developer, the biggest noticeable change from Win32 DLL to Linux ELF Shared Libraries, is this: In windows 95, 98, NT, and 2000 (but not 3.11, which makes me beleive the 3.1x coders were superiour) DLL's get loaded once for each application. Why? In my eyes its to help stop severly sloppy code from crashing everything, which happens anyway, but *shrug*. Under linux, shared libraries only get run into memory once, if i remember correctly, and that's a big resoruce saver.
--- 'dex
"On a side note: I originally submitted this article about a week-and-a-half ago. Is this the norm for Slashdot submissions? I'm not bitching or anything, just curious is it normally takes the "Herd of Attack Geese" that long to sift through all the submissions."
/. section, that it proably does. I got one aproved yesterday, and I'm not expecting it to show up for a few more days at least.
I would say, for the ask
--- 'dex
I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but, Borland is working on Krylix or whatever it is for Linux, and they announced it was going to be working with KDE untill some standards were accepted between the two enviroments. I, personally, dispise KDE, but that's just me, I'm not flaming, I'm stating my *opinion* in a public forum. Now, this makes me wonder if possibly Borland had a hand in this (seemingly nonexistant) agreement.
*shrug*
--- 'dex
Shouldn't they be suing Microsoft for having a File menu?... This is absoutley insane. There are *hundreds* of things that this could relate to, they could even sue the University of Washington for making Pine, because, it has, "Informaton for display at a terminal apparatus of a computer is stored in blocks the first part of which contains the information which is actually displayed at the terminal and the second part of which contains information relating to the display and which may be used to influence the display at the time or in response to a keyboard entry signal. " ..... *sigh*
--- 'dex
The important thing here is this -- Don't overcomplicate your webpages, honestly, as DHTML is cool, how much of a _REAL_ requriement do you have of your page? Is it a form processor, a dynamic frames page, what? Chances are, if you keep it simple, you wont have a problem, and that's the real optimization of web-code. While not true nessiarly in terms of C/C++ programs, it remains true in web development. Lots of people make "Web Optimizers", all they do is basically check for redundant operations, if your fully experienced in your language, you should already be aware of these redundant operations, and already be avoiding them.
--- 'dex
I'm using an athlon 700mhz, have been for a few months now, w/ a asus K7M motherboard. I've had absoutley zero problems with this machine under linux, and while not trying to sound like a zelot, nothing but problems under windows. With the pentinum III, I had constant problems under Linux with certian optimizations, yet windows ran perfectly. My geuss is this: It just depends on what your doing. I've got plenty of CPU to go around in the Linux world.. 1405.75 bogomips, woot. However, in Win2k, I noticed qutie offten that the processor useage meter is maxxed when I go to do a bunch of trivial things, like check e-mail, sit on irc, and play mp3's at the same time, however on my 450 pIII laptop, these tasks dont come CLOSE to using all the CPU, and considering in Linux, running X11/XMMS/Pine/Netscape, etc, all at once, my Athlon system reports as having aproximatley 97% CPU free at all times. Sooo... ultimatley, the decision is yours. Mine is this: pIII for Windows, Athlon for Linux.
--- 'dex
This situation is more or less along the lines of... "Hey! Give us your credit card number so we can track you, then investigate you since your obviously only donating because you feel guilty about the fact you possess several peices of pirate music by (insert unnamed band here).".. Hopefully the RIAA dosen't just decide to buy this company so it has all the credit card information to start investigating people. Wouldn't phase me in the slightest.
--- 'dex
Ah, yes, the teacher's proably going to be running Win9x, I'll be the first one teaching my child how to run linux and knock out her box when she's about to bother him. *snicker* Seriously, though, I've had a laptop since Jr. High, it was a 386/SX with 4 megs of ram, but it ran edit and printed to the school printers fine, now-a-days I tote a pIII 450 notebook back and forth to work, mainly out of habbit, Laptop's have their usefullness, definatley (and when paired with, oh, wireless internet (Like ricochet..), they become a handy portable terminal. Anyhow, its an individuals decision, I personally faire better with a keyboard than I do with a pen.
--- 'dex
You, yes you, are a troll, however, you raise an interesting point. Lots of people think Linux sucks, but those of us in the real world have seen how Linux has progressed, it may not be the best for some situations (home gaming/computing), but its in the plan. This "free" 3d engine may be windows based, although the license is "lame", the point is, and the reason it was posted, is because it appeals to the /. community, there's alot of possibility in Linux and windows both, using them together is what's making quite a few companies large amounts of cash flow. You, Mr. Troll, are being naeive. You, fellow slashdotter, in some ways most likely are as well, in the respect that you all proably beleive 'windows sucks'. Both have uses, I run linux religiously in work enviroments and make every attempt to subsititue it for NT, however, I can't exactally play Final Fantasy VII in Linux, and I don't see the wine project making considerable efforts to make it happen (yet). The 3d engine was posted because it's interesting, to some people. Mabye not Mr. Troll, but, I'm sure at least a few (hundred) people found it interesting.
I blame Microsoft, they were trying to bash linux servers, yeah, thats it. Don't forget to mention they COULD do so if they wanted to, they certianly have the cash. Ah, the world is so fun. Honestly, who knows, though. :)