I don't know what planet he's from but, in general, C does not take long to write. C has this wonderful capibility called functions, and if you do a lot of repetitive work, you can write a function to do that repetitive work. Or, for example, in C++ you can pass a class of C++ functions and data as an argument, making it so that modular applications can pass the same code and data to all available functions for immediate use..
IMHO, he's just biased to Lisp, and I'm just biased to C. But, outright saying that C programmers are a bunch of speed-freak-holier-than-thou losers, was going a little far..
Source code is, however, much prefered if English isin't known by one of the two parties in the exchange. Imagine talking to Microsoft tech support lackies who only spoke Bushman.:)
The only diffrence between network development in windows and *nix/*bsd* is that you must initalize winsock. All function calls are identical in the C libraries outside of the init function.
Microsoft's Winsock would've never taken off if they haddn't emulated the BSD-style networking functions everyone else was using. It's just the way it was at the time. Hell, Microsoft could've most likely taken any protocol and made it what would now be popular, but, at the time they weren't as big and had to play fair.
Now, the networking stack in windows leaves much to be desired, but...
Also, you've got more options than Qt, you've also got GTK and wxWindows..
The GTK windows port seems to be coming along well, last I checked.
Oh but you CAN experiment with the technology. See, all they are is a certificate authority. OpenSSL, for example, has a fairly robust (but not recomended for mass comercial use) facillity for doing the same exact thing they do. Check the OpenSSL documentation for the 'ca' subset of commands. Sure, you'll have to install your own root cert to test it out, but at least that won't stop you from doing the testing itself.
Cisco charges for IOS updates, or requires than you have a CCIE on board to get them for you, and in some cases won't give you one at all without a support contract. This is why routers go unpatched, insecure, broken, whatever.. Someone needs to bitch at Cisco.. oh wait, several people have and they didn't care.. hmm.
I also forgot that lots of midrange routers that didn't sell well are now completly unsupported, so the companies who do have them are shit-out-of-luck, no IOS upgrades for you!
The ideas behind public/private key exchanges are too well known in this day and age, and any experienced programer, could, in theory, replicate them as nessisary for his own use.
Or, completly re-structure them to be more complex and less friendly..
Mabye they ought to require all compilers to detect crypto-like tactics and put backdoors in them..
Now, I'm big on using Linux for LOTS of tasks, but I can't justify paying Loki for a game on a OS that dosen't have decent support for PLAYING it. Input is slower, VERY FEW OpenGL video cards are supported properly, etc, etc. This is changing, I'll give it that, but untill someone can take the same machine in win32 and linux and get better framerates with the same settings in linux, I'm not going to bother.
I'm in the process of writing an apache module w/ Win32 client to do just this.
NO ONE makes *really* nice out of the box solutions, if you want something that looks professional in this department, you have to do it yourself. I've evaulated aproximatley 10 or 20 peices of software, even if I did use them, I'd have to severly hack them up.
I initally suggested that the holder of the artifact simply return it in the last article, and got flamed for it. Looks like there aren't so many bad people in the world afterall...
You know, I really dont think M$ should be broken up, in all honesty, they did what they did on their own, they started from scratch and built an electronic empire.
I'm a opensource-ish kind of follower, yeah, but, let opensource dominate microsoft fairly, as it will in time. Don't chant "Die, Microsoft, DIE" just because of some shoddy business practices, if you think what M$ does is bad, you should see some of the overseas clothing factories, or perhaps those poor mylasian children who make most of your cpu's. (I think you guys forget these things..)
"The process of protecting an item from unauthorized use wherefor is thus to be implemented by a governmental office. Refer to Diagram 1a.456 for the procedural method.
I independantly tested apache with a threaded-"bomb" -- it mass-requested pages as quickly as possible from 16 IP's assigned to a machine to both IIS in a standard out of box configuration running a ISAPI module, and apache's stock configuration (with mod_so) running a DSO. Both modules did nothing but print off some basic html when accessed, and I can tell you this much:
Both were tested to cycle through 1,000,000 hits. The apache server lost 3 requests (they hung and timed out after 20 seconds), the IIS machine lost 316 requests (same timeout). The apache server was done with 999,997 hits in 48 seconds, the IIS server took 82 seconds to do the same.
Apache won. =)
Anyhow, your results may vary. Both machines were pIII 500's with 256mb of ram, one running Windows 2000 Server and the other running on a RedHat 6.2 install.
What's really amusing is that all you god-fearing weaklings post as anonymous cowards, which just goes to demonstrate how spineless you all really are.:)
Have a nice day.
[Moderators, this post is not Flamebait, or Troll, it is Insightful, or possibly Funny... unless your name is Jerry Farwell.:)] --- 'dex
I expect those documents to be in plain-text, or manual pages. If neither are there, generally I don't use the software (this rarely happens). So, why do I want some document in some format I'd have to download a 349592MB word processor to view? (If star office binaries are ~70MB just think how big the source is uncompressed...)
I'm sorry, the only thing responsible for this is parenting. Children, both girls and boys, should be tought that they can do whatever they want, but at the same time be tought a rational set of "morals" to judge life with. I'm not Christian, I don't buy the god-fearing crap, so I'm not speaking of morals in that sense, but more in the sense of, "Do not kill one unless one threatens your own life.", and quite honestly, if someone threatened my life, I would do anything in my power to disable and or destroy the advasary. I may be a "linux uber geek", however, I'm also physically and intelectually talented in the arts of Karate and Zen (although, I'm not of those religious backgrounds either) from materials/lessons I've learned from other people and by reading.
The moral of this story, is that if I ever have a girl, I'm going to teach her Karate, Linux, and C, so in the events that follow:
Someone tells her she does something like a girl: She can kick their ass.
Someone tells her how "krad ereet" they are at Windows: She can whip out a linux CD and stomp on em.
Someone writes some lame java applet and brags: She can write a multimedia, flash like language, and impliment it to write it better.:P
With the talk at the top of the list about the sun, it makes you wonder if (in reality) it would be possible to somehow jumpstart a fusion reactor's "core" from the sun, think about it, for the fusion reactor we would have to have materials or "other technology", that allowed us to contain it, the same technology ought to be able to be used to get a craft or some kind to the sun.. After getting one started, it could be used to start others, etc, etc, etc... Mabye I'm just weird, and quite possibly I'm missing a few scientific facts in stating the above, but hey, it's just an idea.:) --- 'dex
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A friend of mine just wired up the center of his house with 200-pair, then split off from there. You think 25's bad...
Thank god for AOL Time Warner, and their partnering with RoadRunner! (Dosen't AT&T own RoadRunner now, or something?..)
</sarcasm>
Had to say it.
Hey, slashdot coders, if i wanted to have to type & lt; and & gt; all the time I wouldn't use the 'Plain Ol Text' option as my default...
I don't know what planet he's from but, in general, C does not take long to write. C has this wonderful capibility called functions, and if you do a lot of repetitive work, you can write a function to do that repetitive work. Or, for example, in C++ you can pass a class of C++ functions and data as an argument, making it so that modular applications can pass the same code and data to all available functions for immediate use..
IMHO, he's just biased to Lisp, and I'm just biased to C. But, outright saying that C programmers are a bunch of speed-freak-holier-than-thou losers, was going a little far..
Source code is, however, much prefered if English isin't known by one of the two parties in the exchange. Imagine talking to Microsoft tech support lackies who only spoke Bushman. :)
The only diffrence between network development in windows and *nix/*bsd* is that you must initalize winsock. All function calls are identical in the C libraries outside of the init function.
Microsoft's Winsock would've never taken off if they haddn't emulated the BSD-style networking functions everyone else was using. It's just the way it was at the time. Hell, Microsoft could've most likely taken any protocol and made it what would now be popular, but, at the time they weren't as big and had to play fair.
Now, the networking stack in windows leaves much to be desired, but...
Also, you've got more options than Qt, you've also got GTK and wxWindows..
The GTK windows port seems to be coming along well, last I checked.
Oh but you CAN experiment with the technology. See, all they are is a certificate authority. OpenSSL, for example, has a fairly robust (but not recomended for mass comercial use) facillity for doing the same exact thing they do. Check the OpenSSL documentation for the 'ca' subset of commands. Sure, you'll have to install your own root cert to test it out, but at least that won't stop you from doing the testing itself.
Patched version, not new version. Old versions contain old bugs. They only release 'patch' versions when an old bug is discovered.
Cisco charges for IOS updates, or requires than you have a CCIE on board to get them for you, and in some cases won't give you one at all without a support contract. This is why routers go unpatched, insecure, broken, whatever.. Someone needs to bitch at Cisco.. oh wait, several people have and they didn't care.. hmm.
I also forgot that lots of midrange routers that didn't sell well are now completly unsupported, so the companies who do have them are shit-out-of-luck, no IOS upgrades for you!
This is incorrect, many large scale companies use token ring networks.
Cisco still requires learning steps in token ring devices for most certifications they provide.
This is what is stopping me from trying for my CCIE at the moment, I'm trying to find some token ring devices to setup in my working lab enviroment.
The ideas behind public/private key exchanges are too well known in this day and age, and any experienced programer, could, in theory, replicate them as nessisary for his own use.
Or, completly re-structure them to be more complex and less friendly..
Mabye they ought to require all compilers to detect crypto-like tactics and put backdoors in them..
windex
Now, I'm big on using Linux for LOTS of tasks, but I can't justify paying Loki for a game on a OS that dosen't have decent support for PLAYING it. Input is slower, VERY FEW OpenGL video cards are supported properly, etc, etc. This is changing, I'll give it that, but untill someone can take the same machine in win32 and linux and get better framerates with the same settings in linux, I'm not going to bother.
Ah, look at that. A microsoft banner, a Akamai banner, *AND* an Abovenet banner, all on one page.
This comapny is the spawn of satan. Thanks. I figured it out in 10 seconds.
"Ghost in the Machine"
I don't think I'd like to have my body hacked.
Thank you.
I'm in the process of writing an apache module w/ Win32 client to do just this. NO ONE makes *really* nice out of the box solutions, if you want something that looks professional in this department, you have to do it yourself. I've evaulated aproximatley 10 or 20 peices of software, even if I did use them, I'd have to severly hack them up.
I initally suggested that the holder of the artifact simply return it in the last article, and got flamed for it. Looks like there aren't so many bad people in the world afterall...
You know, I really dont think M$ should be broken up, in all honesty, they did what they did on their own, they started from scratch and built an electronic empire.
I'm a opensource-ish kind of follower, yeah, but, let opensource dominate microsoft fairly, as it will in time. Don't chant "Die, Microsoft, DIE" just because of some shoddy business practices, if you think what M$ does is bad, you should see some of the overseas clothing factories, or perhaps those poor mylasian children who make most of your cpu's. (I think you guys forget these things..)
Had to play the devil's advocate, sorry. =)
Idea: Patent Patents.
"The process of protecting an item from
unauthorized use wherefor is thus to be
implemented by a governmental office. Refer
to Diagram 1a.456 for the procedural method.
-- Begin Diagram 1a.465:
[Patent]<[Everyday]<[Stupid]
[Office]<[Joe ]<[Idea]
-- End Diagram 1a.456
"
Contributors: Sin@irc.slashnet.org,
shaldannon@irc.slashnet.org,
windex@irc.slashnet.org (of course),
MrFalcon@irc.slashnet.org
P.S. We would like the $50 to go to the EFF. =)
But t-shirts are cool.
If I was them, I'd of just given it back.
:)
What's with people not doing good deeds anymore, do good deeds only exist in the linux world, or something?
I independantly tested apache with a threaded-"bomb" -- it mass-requested pages as quickly as possible from 16 IP's assigned to a machine to both IIS in a standard out of box configuration running a ISAPI module, and apache's stock configuration (with mod_so) running a DSO. Both modules did nothing but print off some basic html when accessed, and I can tell you this much:
Both were tested to cycle through 1,000,000 hits. The apache server lost 3 requests (they hung and timed out after 20 seconds), the IIS machine lost 316 requests (same timeout). The apache server was done with 999,997 hits in 48 seconds, the IIS server took 82 seconds to do the same.
Apache won. =)
Anyhow, your results may vary. Both machines were pIII 500's with 256mb of ram, one running Windows 2000 Server and the other running on a RedHat 6.2 install.
About 5-6k in PC hardware and a nice, fast connect.
example: Dual P3-800, 72gig RAID, 1GB ram, Linux compatible audio/video hardware (duh), and a nice 1.54mbit business class DSL line for a year or so.
Yeah, this might be my christmas present, but I'll be paying for it myself. . . Why don't the women ever apply for IT jobs.. argh.
This is offtopic but worth noting:
A non-troll finally got a first post.
I could die happy now.
--- 'dex
What's really amusing is that all you god-fearing weaklings post as anonymous cowards, which just goes to demonstrate how spineless you all really are. :)
:)]
Have a nice day.
[Moderators, this post is not Flamebait, or Troll, it is Insightful, or possibly Funny... unless your name is Jerry Farwell.
--- 'dex
I expect those documents to be in plain-text, or manual pages. If neither are there, generally I don't use the software (this rarely happens). So, why do I want some document in some format I'd have to download a 349592MB word processor to view? (If star office binaries are ~70MB just think how big the source is uncompressed...)
Mabye its just me.
--- 'dex
I'm sorry, the only thing responsible for this is parenting. Children, both girls and boys, should be tought that they can do whatever they want, but at the same time be tought a rational set of "morals" to judge life with. I'm not Christian, I don't buy the god-fearing crap, so I'm not speaking of morals in that sense, but more in the sense of, "Do not kill one unless one threatens your own life.", and quite honestly, if someone threatened my life, I would do anything in my power to disable and or destroy the advasary. I may be a "linux uber geek", however, I'm also physically and intelectually talented in the arts of Karate and Zen (although, I'm not of those religious backgrounds either) from materials/lessons I've learned from other people and by reading.
:P
:)
The moral of this story, is that if I ever have a girl, I'm going to teach her Karate, Linux, and C, so in the events that follow:
Someone tells her she does something like a girl:
She can kick their ass.
Someone tells her how "krad ereet" they are at Windows:
She can whip out a linux CD and stomp on em.
Someone writes some lame java applet and brags:
She can write a multimedia, flash like language, and impliment it to write it better.
Just my opinion.
--- 'dex
With the talk at the top of the list about the sun, it makes you wonder if (in reality) it would be possible to somehow jumpstart a fusion reactor's "core" from the sun, think about it, for the fusion reactor we would have to have materials or "other technology", that allowed us to contain it, the same technology ought to be able to be used to get a craft or some kind to the sun.. After getting one started, it could be used to start others, etc, etc, etc... Mabye I'm just weird, and quite possibly I'm missing a few scientific facts in stating the above, but hey, it's just an idea. :)
--- 'dex