Not that I can tell, apps on IOS cannot control the routing of notifications.
Sad, because I've met most of the pebble team and they all have iPhones. That would be an Apple-imposed limitation, then, as there's no way the iOS-loving Pebble team would give us Android users that functionality and not implement it for themselves if possible. Just like the Pebble Time microphone being useless on iOS; it's certainly useful on Android, but Apple doesn't allow actionable notifications on iOS, except from their own watch.
In other words, the Apple Watch is only better on iOS because Apple doesn't allow others to play. The functionality exists just fine on Android, Blackberry and Windows Phone (neither of which even have an official app), and even jailbroken iOS, once Apple's restrictions are removed.
If the only way they can win is to prevent others from even playing, that's fucking sad. And until they actually let others play, nobody can say they'd win if they did.
Raise arm (screen comes on, displays watch face), flick wrist (screen returns to previous app). Seems simple enough and won't look too silly. Unfortunately, I doube Apple will do it. I own a Pebble and a Pebble Time anyway, so it's not skin off my back.
with the Pebble Time, any notification goes through to the watch
Does the iOS Pebble Time app not have this screen? On Android, at least, you can choose which apps send notifications to the watch. Funny, though, one of the first review videos I watched for the Apple Watch complained that notifications were all-or-nothing; when did Apple begin allowing you to control that?
In a bullet-list, the Apple Watch does a lot more. After the first week novelty wore off, though, most people I know who own both switched back to their Pebble and, of those who own one or the other, Pebble owners sure seem to user their watches a lot more. I think what it boils down to isn't so much whether the Apple Watch does more or less than the Pebble, but how much work is it to get it to do it. The Pebble interface is quick and simple, the Apple Watch interface makes you work for it; so, it doesn't matter which watch can do more, Pebble makes it easier so, in the end, Pebble gets used more and, therefore, does more. Plus, a Pebble can spend more time on your wrist than an Apple Watch; 2hr to charge every 5-10 days (varies with usage) vs 2hr to charge every 12-19hr. It's easier to use the device that you woke up still wearing than the device you forgot to put back on as you rushed out the door.
And for a production or primary system, they're spot-on. But this is Slashdot, who here only has one computer? I threw it on my Vaio because it's the slowest machine I could find in my stock that wasn't already in use. I have to say, it freaking' screams compared to XP, 7, 8 (I skipped 8.1 because 8 was so bad I ended up switching platforms on that machine briefly, before retiring it), Ubuntu, hackintosh'd OSX, or even Haiku on the same machine. Microsoft hasn't impressed me since Win 7, and I was only mildly impressed with that. Well, they've done it again! And this is without drivers optimized for the new release...
I'm running the Win 8 nVidia drivers from Sony on my VPCF232FX with no issues. Have you tried that? Win 10, combined with Apple's change in direction over the past 3-4 years, is making me start seriously considering coming back to Windows. I switched to Mac a few months after Win 7 came out, after I started working for a Mac dev shop, and haven't looked back once until I installed the Win 10 preview. Loving it. I did glance at 8 and 8.1, but wanted to blow my brains out after 5 minutes of using either of them. What train wreck those were! Seriously, had I not been on OSX at that point, I probably would have ended up using Ubuntu as my primary desktop OS again.
Really, with the direction Apple has been going in with OSX and the Mac line, and the direction Windows was headed with 8 and 8.1, it was starting to look like the year of the Linux desktop wasn't that far off. Someone at MS finally woke up, I guess; now if Tim Cook can do the same, Linux might be able to stay on my servers, where it belongs, and I might be able to keep Windows as only a testing OS. Not gonna hold my breath... and anyway, it's been over 5 years, I'm due for another platform jump, anyway. Way overdue, actually; I usually switch every other year!
I'm running the insider preview on a Vaio that has excellent Win 8.1 support, save for two devices that only have Win 8 drivers. Where I could not find a Win 10 driver, the Win 8.1 drivers work. Where a Win 8.1 driver doesn't exist, the Win 8 drivers work. No stability issues and the hardware works just fine. I don't think you'll have a problem, MS hasn't changed their driver architecture since 8 came out and, even then, they only changed a couple subsystems, so most Win7 drivers should even still work. Of course, you get the odd hardware manufacturer that exploits some OS bug here or there in their drivers and yes, those drivers do stop working during OS upgrades (or even on the odd Patch Tuesday) when those bugs are fixed; screw those guys, though.
Huh... I must have seen it during initial setup when I first got my phone, then. My point, really, was to reinforce the point you were making, which is that it is a system setting which can be accessed and modified regardless of the app. Which brings me to another point: why do people complain when their technology doesn't do what they want when they haven't taken the time to tell it what they want it to do? That's rhetorical, of course.
Put in plain English, if I uninstall an app that has controls that govern syncing my photos, I expect my photos to stop syncing.
Indeed! However, the app, in this case, does not have controls that govern syncing photos; instead, it opens the system configuration pane that already existed before the app was installed (and still exists when the app is removed) to assist the user in locating the settings.
If the music player turned on the DLNA server, that would be a valid complaint.
What if the music player opened the settings for the DLNA server to make it easier for the user to turn it on, but the user was the one who actually turned it on? That's a bit closer to what happened here; the setting this guy is complaining about is a system setting and Photos opens the system settings pane containing that setting to allow the user to toggle it. The pane (along with the setting) existed before Photos was installed, exists while Photos is installed, and will continue to exist if Photos in uninstalled. It can be toggled completely independently of the existence of the Photos app.
Indeed, the app only redirects you to that setting, the setting itself is not part of the app and is still available to be turned on or off regardless of the app. Just another case of people spouting off about things they do not understand.
That would be the case if they made it work a certain way and didn't give you the option to change it. This, on the other hand, is a default setting you can change. Until you tell Google what you want your device to do, it will carry on the default action. Seems sane to me.
Do you commonly install software and then fail to configure it to behave the way you want? that sure seems like your failing, much moreso than the developers of said software.
Honestly, I was only being half snarky. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they went ahead with the merger behind the scenes, maintaining two public faces (as though they haven't both been two-faced the whole time).
No, once or twice every few months I'll get that, too. Slashdot's (and only Slashdot's) CSS will just stop loading for some reason for a day or two, or until I sign out. I think it's a failed attempt at A/B testing.
Plus the faster print speed, lower power usage, faster warm-up, and finer print quality. And new features sometimes.
Plus, the AC and the guy who replied to him are both wrong re: Brother. The starter carts are full, just missing the reset gear. When the printer says the cart is empty, pick up a reset gear on Amazon for $2 and install it, you'll get "new" cartridge life out of it.
Brother models either include a chip with a serial number (the counting is done in the printer and can be reset with a series of button presses) or a mechanical device (missing from the starter cartridge; the printer relies on an internal page count if the device is missing) that can be reset by removing 3 screws, resetting it, and re-installing the screws. You can also buy the reset gear on Amazon for most of their cartridges and put one on the starter cartridge (which *is* a full cartridge, by the way, just missing the gear). They don't really do anything to prevent refilling ot hinder the 3rd-party market at all, as far as I can tell; all of their cut-off devices are so easy to reset that they're very clearly there to legitimately preserve print quality (as every printer manufacturer claims with their fingers crossed), with the sole exception being the starter cartridges missing the reset gear, but even that can be bought.
Welcome to Slashdot, where you're lucky if commenters read the summary, let alone the article, before posting. Honestly, sometimes I'm amazed I can tell they read the headline.
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Not that I can tell, apps on IOS cannot control the routing of notifications.
Sad, because I've met most of the pebble team and they all have iPhones. That would be an Apple-imposed limitation, then, as there's no way the iOS-loving Pebble team would give us Android users that functionality and not implement it for themselves if possible. Just like the Pebble Time microphone being useless on iOS; it's certainly useful on Android, but Apple doesn't allow actionable notifications on iOS, except from their own watch.
In other words, the Apple Watch is only better on iOS because Apple doesn't allow others to play. The functionality exists just fine on Android, Blackberry and Windows Phone (neither of which even have an official app), and even jailbroken iOS, once Apple's restrictions are removed.
If the only way they can win is to prevent others from even playing, that's fucking sad. And until they actually let others play, nobody can say they'd win if they did.
Raise arm (screen comes on, displays watch face), flick wrist (screen returns to previous app). Seems simple enough and won't look too silly. Unfortunately, I doube Apple will do it. I own a Pebble and a Pebble Time anyway, so it's not skin off my back.
with the Pebble Time, any notification goes through to the watch
Does the iOS Pebble Time app not have this screen? On Android, at least, you can choose which apps send notifications to the watch. Funny, though, one of the first review videos I watched for the Apple Watch complained that notifications were all-or-nothing; when did Apple begin allowing you to control that?
Battery life is not a problem if you charge it each night.
And how do you propose I do that if I'm using it for sleep tracking?
In a bullet-list, the Apple Watch does a lot more. After the first week novelty wore off, though, most people I know who own both switched back to their Pebble and, of those who own one or the other, Pebble owners sure seem to user their watches a lot more. I think what it boils down to isn't so much whether the Apple Watch does more or less than the Pebble, but how much work is it to get it to do it. The Pebble interface is quick and simple, the Apple Watch interface makes you work for it; so, it doesn't matter which watch can do more, Pebble makes it easier so, in the end, Pebble gets used more and, therefore, does more. Plus, a Pebble can spend more time on your wrist than an Apple Watch; 2hr to charge every 5-10 days (varies with usage) vs 2hr to charge every 12-19hr. It's easier to use the device that you woke up still wearing than the device you forgot to put back on as you rushed out the door.
+1 for Pebble. I have plenty of apps installed (the Pebble Time did away with the 8 app/face limit), use it all the time, and charge it weekly.
And for a production or primary system, they're spot-on. But this is Slashdot, who here only has one computer? I threw it on my Vaio because it's the slowest machine I could find in my stock that wasn't already in use. I have to say, it freaking' screams compared to XP, 7, 8 (I skipped 8.1 because 8 was so bad I ended up switching platforms on that machine briefly, before retiring it), Ubuntu, hackintosh'd OSX, or even Haiku on the same machine. Microsoft hasn't impressed me since Win 7, and I was only mildly impressed with that. Well, they've done it again! And this is without drivers optimized for the new release...
I'm running the Win 8 nVidia drivers from Sony on my VPCF232FX with no issues. Have you tried that? Win 10, combined with Apple's change in direction over the past 3-4 years, is making me start seriously considering coming back to Windows. I switched to Mac a few months after Win 7 came out, after I started working for a Mac dev shop, and haven't looked back once until I installed the Win 10 preview. Loving it. I did glance at 8 and 8.1, but wanted to blow my brains out after 5 minutes of using either of them. What train wreck those were! Seriously, had I not been on OSX at that point, I probably would have ended up using Ubuntu as my primary desktop OS again.
Really, with the direction Apple has been going in with OSX and the Mac line, and the direction Windows was headed with 8 and 8.1, it was starting to look like the year of the Linux desktop wasn't that far off. Someone at MS finally woke up, I guess; now if Tim Cook can do the same, Linux might be able to stay on my servers, where it belongs, and I might be able to keep Windows as only a testing OS. Not gonna hold my breath... and anyway, it's been over 5 years, I'm due for another platform jump, anyway. Way overdue, actually; I usually switch every other year!
I'm running the insider preview on a Vaio that has excellent Win 8.1 support, save for two devices that only have Win 8 drivers. Where I could not find a Win 10 driver, the Win 8.1 drivers work. Where a Win 8.1 driver doesn't exist, the Win 8 drivers work. No stability issues and the hardware works just fine. I don't think you'll have a problem, MS hasn't changed their driver architecture since 8 came out and, even then, they only changed a couple subsystems, so most Win7 drivers should even still work. Of course, you get the odd hardware manufacturer that exploits some OS bug here or there in their drivers and yes, those drivers do stop working during OS upgrades (or even on the odd Patch Tuesday) when those bugs are fixed; screw those guys, though.
Huh... I must have seen it during initial setup when I first got my phone, then. My point, really, was to reinforce the point you were making, which is that it is a system setting which can be accessed and modified regardless of the app. Which brings me to another point: why do people complain when their technology doesn't do what they want when they haven't taken the time to tell it what they want it to do? That's rhetorical, of course.
It was exactly that straightforward for me on Lollipop.
Put in plain English, if I uninstall an app that has controls that govern syncing my photos, I expect my photos to stop syncing.
Indeed! However, the app, in this case, does not have controls that govern syncing photos; instead, it opens the system configuration pane that already existed before the app was installed (and still exists when the app is removed) to assist the user in locating the settings.
If the music player turned on the DLNA server, that would be a valid complaint.
What if the music player opened the settings for the DLNA server to make it easier for the user to turn it on, but the user was the one who actually turned it on? That's a bit closer to what happened here; the setting this guy is complaining about is a system setting and Photos opens the system settings pane containing that setting to allow the user to toggle it. The pane (along with the setting) existed before Photos was installed, exists while Photos is installed, and will continue to exist if Photos in uninstalled. It can be toggled completely independently of the existence of the Photos app.
Indeed, the app only redirects you to that setting, the setting itself is not part of the app and is still available to be turned on or off regardless of the app. Just another case of people spouting off about things they do not understand.
"We know better than you do"
That would be the case if they made it work a certain way and didn't give you the option to change it. This, on the other hand, is a default setting you can change. Until you tell Google what you want your device to do, it will carry on the default action. Seems sane to me.
Do you commonly install software and then fail to configure it to behave the way you want? that sure seems like your failing, much moreso than the developers of said software.
Honestly, I was only being half snarky. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they went ahead with the merger behind the scenes, maintaining two public faces (as though they haven't both been two-faced the whole time).
Comcast is Time Warner's HR department now? I thought they abandoned the merger.
No, once or twice every few months I'll get that, too. Slashdot's (and only Slashdot's) CSS will just stop loading for some reason for a day or two, or until I sign out. I think it's a failed attempt at A/B testing.
In the same bag as the puppies?
Plus the faster print speed, lower power usage, faster warm-up, and finer print quality. And new features sometimes.
Plus, the AC and the guy who replied to him are both wrong re: Brother. The starter carts are full, just missing the reset gear. When the printer says the cart is empty, pick up a reset gear on Amazon for $2 and install it, you'll get "new" cartridge life out of it.
Brother models either include a chip with a serial number (the counting is done in the printer and can be reset with a series of button presses) or a mechanical device (missing from the starter cartridge; the printer relies on an internal page count if the device is missing) that can be reset by removing 3 screws, resetting it, and re-installing the screws. You can also buy the reset gear on Amazon for most of their cartridges and put one on the starter cartridge (which *is* a full cartridge, by the way, just missing the gear). They don't really do anything to prevent refilling ot hinder the 3rd-party market at all, as far as I can tell; all of their cut-off devices are so easy to reset that they're very clearly there to legitimately preserve print quality (as every printer manufacturer claims with their fingers crossed), with the sole exception being the starter cartridges missing the reset gear, but even that can be bought.
Welcome to Slashdot, where you're lucky if commenters read the summary, let alone the article, before posting. Honestly, sometimes I'm amazed I can tell they read the headline.
Masochist much?
Are you trying to make a point?