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New submitter MoarSauce123 writes: Over time I accumulated a number of empty toner cartridges for a Brother laser printer. Initially, I wanted to take a local office supply chain store up on their offer to give me store credit for the returned cartridge. For that credit to be issued I would have to sign up for their store card providing a bunch of personal information. The credit is so lousy that after the deduction from the sales price of a new toner cartridge the price is still much higher than from a large online retailer. And the credit only applies to one new cartridge, so I cannot keep collecting the credit and then get a cartridge 'for free' at some point.
I also looked into a local store of a toner refill chain. Their prices are a bit better, but the closest store is about half an hour away with rather odd business hours. Still, at the end they charge more than the large online retailer asks for a brand new cartridge. For now I bring the empty cartridges to the big office supply store and tell them that I do not want their dumb store credit. I rather have big corp make some bucks on me than throw these things in the trash and have it go to a landfill. Are there any better options? Anything from donating it to charity to refilling myself is of interest.
I also looked into a local store of a toner refill chain. Their prices are a bit better, but the closest store is about half an hour away with rather odd business hours. Still, at the end they charge more than the large online retailer asks for a brand new cartridge. For now I bring the empty cartridges to the big office supply store and tell them that I do not want their dumb store credit. I rather have big corp make some bucks on me than throw these things in the trash and have it go to a landfill. Are there any better options? Anything from donating it to charity to refilling myself is of interest.
How about hiding them behind an icon?
At the bottom of the
Seriously, just Google it: brother toner cartridge recycling program
Buy a laser printer.
There is very little you can do with it. The stuff is carcinogenic, dangerous and mostly plastic. In some states it's illegal to just dump them in the general waste.
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Send them back to Brother to be recycled. http://www.brother-usa.com/environment/tonerinkdisposal.aspx#.VZLWbbwfpN8
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/empty-toner-cartridges
For most Brother cartridges you can find refill kits for a fraction of what even generic toner carts with poor reviews cost. I've had good luck with mine, though you WILL want to buy new end caps as they get damaged enough when you remove them that they will almost always leak toner which makes a mess and ruins prints.
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Most laser cartridges can be sold to online retailers for a few dollars a piece. Some toner cartridges can be resold for over $20 each, depending on the make/model. While you're not going to get rich by reselling them online, you will make more money from doing it than you would giving them to a office supply chain store. Plus, these online retailers refill them and resell them. They also pay you in cash, not in credit towards new toner cartridges.
http://300-dollars-per-day.com/earn-money-recycling-inkjet-and-laser-toner-cartridges/
It'a a darn pity when 'Geeks' think they have to ask direction on little things, and that too on slashdot. Go check online and find a way to recycle them. if you have to spend a few bucks to mail them, so be it, think of it as you doing your part to keep things green.
What next? "I feel like peeing, what should I do?" post on slashdot?
Available all over the place, a toner refill kit gives you a bottle of toner, a soldering iron with a circular cut-out tool attached and some stickers. Cut a hole in the cartridge, fill it with ink, stick a sticker over the hole and throw it back into your printer. Works for me.
Brother toner cartridges come with a prepaid shipping label so you can mail it back for recycling. Why not just do that?
We have a couple of Brother laser printers in the house .. one's just a printer, the other is the same laser printer base with a scanner/fax/photocopier thing on the top. The both use the same cartridge.
The problem is that a new toner cartridge costs as much as a new printer, which comes with a toner cartridge. It's almost not cost effective to replace the cartridge.
Every time we need a new cartridge my wife wants to recycle the printer and buy a new one.
The idea of that makes me cringe, but I can't defend that it costs less to buy the toner cartridge attached to a printer.
I don't know what to tell you to do. If the choice is jump through ridiculous hoops, pay extra, or say to hell with it and bin the cartridges ... I'm afraid chucking them in the garbage is the easiest choice.
If they're going to make it impossible to recycle the toner cartridges, people might give up on trying.
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The most optimal choice would be to just give the store the little bit of your personal information and then enjoy the credit.
The recycling building at my local dump has a bin specifically for spent toner cartridges right next to the one for dead UPS batteries.
Although you can make a bong from an old toner cartridge, it's probably not a good idea.
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I've come to expect that trash is worth money and expect someone to pay me for taking my trash. The local guy takes trash, but he's realized that taking trash costs money rather than makes money, but has kindly turned this into an optional marketing scheme. I don't understand marketing schemes, and this has lead me to believe that my trash is worth something. How can I make people pay me for my useless garbage?
Many churches have toner / ink cartridge / cell phone recycling programs that help fund their youth programs.
My local schools, public elementary schools, take old toner cartridges as a fundraiser. You might ask around.
I usually just throw them in the river when I walk my dog.
Call Goodwill and other charities that specialize in job-training. Some of them may do printer-cartridge-recycling in-house and would love to have your recyclable cartridges.
Others charities may not do it in-house but they may have buyers lined up to buy cartridges in bulk and will take your donated cartridges.
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Bludgeon Dice employees to death with them.
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Time to offend someone
I bought a laser cutting machine, put it on low, and just burn the text onto the paper. No cartridges to return or refill ever. I currently use solar panels for power, but I don't like the 80% inefficiency, so I am looking into using a lens and fiberoptics to use the light directly. This way I can also incorporate a prism and do color printing.
Check with your local schools. A lot of them will collect & recycle them and make a small profit doing so.
What are your printing so much of and, more importantly, why are you printing it?
We are half way done with 2015. I can't remember the last time I had to have something printed.
Wait, do you work for the US Bureau of Printing and Engraving?
There are other parts that wear out. Wipers and things like that, but if you do a half decent job of just putting in toner, the copies should be good enough for day to day printing ( things like blotches may show ). Save the good cartridges or the professionally refilled ones ( where they replace the other wearable parts ) for when yolu want good looking print.
My kids school gets a decent credit from the local refiller brick and mortar... The school uses that credit to offset their own toner refill purchases. That offset has saved my kids school a few hundred a year. The local brick and mortar gives the school a bit more credit then they would give to you. Easier to give a bit more to a school than a person...
would you even consider to throw these into normal trash. Here in Germany, that would get you fined - (almost) empty laser printer cartridges are nearly on the same level of nastiness as old engine oil.
On the other hand, if you do not find a commercial recycling program you like (every toner manufacturer and seller on the German market has to take back its empty cartridges at zero cost, and of course we also have companies which specialize in refills and pay a few dimes for used cartridges), every communal recycling center accepts toner cartridges free of charge. And in case they'd manage to make some bucks of them, it goes into the city budget. No need for charity shopping.
Wait until you have a bag full of them. Leave them on the curb near an art school. let someone turn them into a performance piece.
"Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines."
FF provides prepaid shipping labels: just tape a few boxes together, slap a label on it, and call UPS.
The school district has garnered more than $10k over the years, which is pretty awesome for them.
Yes, I work in a paperless office, so of course we do a LOT of printing ;-)
Do what I do with all my empty 3D printer filament spools: Hide them under your credenza.
I've been trying to refill my toner cartridge with your hosts file, and I can't quite mange it. Can you help me out?
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Go to the hardware store. Get some 2x4s, 2x2s and a whole lot of elastic rubber tubing. Make a really big slingshot. Shoot them at an angle where they go over your neighbors houses and land a few streets down. The houses in between will block the recipients view of the source.
That's how it's done in EU.
Stop printing so much.
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This is from private use...and yes, I do have bigger issues to deal with, but given the many dumb responses here I wonder by now if asking on slashdot was not a colossal mistake. C'mon folks, do you really have to be so mean when someone asks a simple question?
There are tons of tutorials on how to refill a toner cartridge, online.
Generally you can get 2 or 3 refills, out of $20 worth of toner refill bottles.
Isn't that what everyone else does?
Making a small pile of them and then lighting them on fire. The pretty colors look really cool as they burn their way into my neighbors driveway.
When questions are stupid, responses are dumb.
I don't know how you function in what I presume is USA but here in Poland in small to mid sized companies nobody would even consider buying general purpose office printer without knowing that there are cheap substitute toners aviable for that model. I work in small company and we only buy printers for which we can get cheap toners. And the price difference is like 1/2 (!). Right now we go only with Lexmark and annually we do a market research to emerge the cheapest company to supply us with substitute toners. Once we have a contract with such company they are more than willing to take old toner cases from us. And they also do all the paperwork for us to give us receipts of old toners recovery since it is required by law to have such. I don't know anybody who was controlled about this but it is illegal here tu just dump the e-waste in thrash - you ought to have a receipt for every piece of electronics/e-waste you dispose (and also you need it for fiscal reasons).
So I am a bit shocked reading about your toner accumulation policy and your urge to throw them away into trash. :)
If you are in the states, Office Depot will take old toner. Even ship you a box to put them in. Free both ways. Used them a few times and never had an issue.
Doesn't matter the toner either.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/650988/FREE-Toner-Cartridge-Recycling-Box-With/
Sorry, but if society wanted you to recycle toner cartridges, it'd be easy, or at least take a reasonable effort, to do so. When it takes more than a reasonable effort to recycle, it's trash. (With a caveat, enumerated below.)
I still change my own oil. And I take the old oil to any Autozone (there's one only a few blocks away) and they recycle for free. The same for car batteries. That's the way it should work.
One question, though: If you did not expect remuneration, that is, if you just took a bunch of toner cartridges to them and said "please take them", would they? If so, then do that and stop complaining about it. There's no way brick-and-mortar stores can compete with online, so any reasonable discount they give for a returned cartridge (which doesn't have a lot of value) will still not compete with online. That's a fact of life. To me, it'd be enough just to get the cartridges out of my life.
Here in Oregon, we have a thing that's still known as "the bottle bill" (although it's long since been law). Great idea, STUPID implementation. The machines have to read the bar code in order to give you your deposit back, which means you can't crush them ahead of time to save space, and you have to feed them into the stupid machine one........ at....... a........ time..... (There is usually one "bin" sorter but it's big and complicated and usually out of order.)
And so, it being a time consuming hassle to return the empties, for a long while I just accepted deposit as an additional tax and threw them away. Screw you Bottle Bill.
But later, I came up with a better solution. I bag them and when I have three or four 55 gallon trash bags full, I go by the local grocery on the way to work, find someone obediently putting their cans in one at a time, and say hey... would you like these? No, thank you! And they're Out Of My House, which (this is the important part) is the whole point. And who knows, I might have made some homeless person's day.
So, if it's too far away or if they make you jump through too many hoops to get rid of your toner cartridges, consider the trash can. But if you're holding out for a better discount, you're kinda missing the point. Man up and donate the damned things and be done with them.
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would you even consider to throw these into normal trash. Here in Germany, that would get you fined - (almost) empty laser printer cartridges are nearly on the same level of nastiness as old engine oil.
Put them inside something else. They'll never know.
I can't believe that, even in Germany, someone physically sorts through the trash looking for contraband. At best they look when they dump it. So you just need to hide it well enough that they don't happen to see it.
So when the question was so stupid, why bother with a dumb response? Besides that, more than half of the commenters actually provided some helpful advice. Seems they did not have a problem with the question.
You can always check out http://www.tonerbuyer.com/myli...
They have okay prices and they pay the shipping.
How much toner is left in an 'empty' cart? Is it worth anything if reclaimed. Presumably /most/ toner is enough the same to be generic. So when you cart. is 'empty' it has real $$$ inside it still. Isn't there a business that says to hell with the contaminated plastic we'll hoover-up the toner and sell it on.
This is from private use...and yes, I do have bigger issues to deal with, but given the many dumb responses here I wonder by now if asking on slashdot was not a colossal mistake. C'mon folks, do you really have to be so mean when someone asks a simple question?
You're asking both this question and the original question on slashdot. Seriously?
I have boxes full of unopened toner cartridges as the printers tend to die from unexpected little things, like someone in the office clearing a nasty jam (transfer papers etc) and a tiny bit of plastic spits out across the room. The parts are never worth replacing and we end up with extra features on the upgraded ones. I now also have a store of broken printers as if 'some day' I'll buy a 3d printer to repair something of basically no value.
I've been trying to refill my toner cartridge with your hosts file, and I can't quite mange it. Can you help me out?
You need to spend more time on it. For every hour of ad-free toner cartridge you need to spend 3 weeks updating your host file - or just download the latest updated host file from APKs ad revenue financed web site. The download is currently 500MB (and you need to update every hours - those advertisers keep changing the address of your toner).
I generally buy my ink refill from inkowl.com. And the brother cartridges are good for at least 3-4 refills...
I'm perplexed by your problem. Every toner cartridge I have ever bought, both OEM and off-brand clones, have been shipped with prepaid return labels to ship the spent cartridge back to be recycled. The off-brand clones really want them since they're going to refurbish and refill them, anyway.
The solution? Find a better toner supplier.
Kriston
About a year ago I tried to find a credible source for this claim, and failed. What I did find, e.g. bulk toner sold with "can be messy/can be flammable" warnings no health hazard warnings, vendor programs to recycle cartridges but not toner, MSDS that make no mention of the sort of health hazard you're describing, warnings on the cartridges themselves that talk about voiding warranties but say nothing about health risks, etc. leads me to suspect that the only motivation for the "save the environment, recycle your toner cartridges" is protecting their "disposable razors" business model.
I had disappointing results using third-party toners in my HP Color LaserJet 400, so I use only HP to eras now, although I do troll for bargains and lightly used cartridges to save money. I save up several cartridges and then use the UPS label in one of the new-in-box toners to ship them all back to HP under their recycling program. It's just not worth it to me to use refilled cartridges that may be prone to leaking. I've been a laser printer user for well over 20 years, and a certified HP LaserJet technician; I had friends in the refill business that put out good product, but a lot of the refills you get online are just more Chinese crap. If you can find a local source that cares about quality, then go for it; they may also buy your empties. You could also try listing them on Craigslist.
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C'mon folks, do you really have to be so mean when someone asks a simple question?
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Heh, all of the entertainer, movie stars, etc have known this about the public. They are mean, rude, evil, etc. Just relax, what you are seeing is perfectly normal. Read the responses in a week or so and you will see some good stuff too. The moderation system helps make the good stuff more visible.
With your UserID, I can see why you might be surprised. Hang around for a while. The crowd here is generally better than most places... but it is still, The Public. ;)
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You fail to understand that those that were helpful just aren't elevated to the same level as the elite "real" slashdotters. You're obviously far too dense to understand their vastly superior intellect.
Yeah. I don't even bother logging in here anymore. If I'm already logged in, fine, but I certainly don't waste the effort to do so on a browser without an already validated cookie. And my comments are few and far between. Again, it's obviously because I'm cut from a lesser cloth than the geniuses calling other people stupid. I highly doubt they're compensating for anything. I'm sure it's horribly lonely at the top. Poor misunderstood geniuses.
Anyway, snotty sarcasm aside, you had a very good question and I concur with the refill opinions. A good refill kit will save you a lot, it's easy enough to do, and the Brothers are trivial to refill (the first couple of times will be a learning curve). The reset flag is also simple to handle. A couple of phillips screws and a twist (again, there may be a learning curve but it's not a complicated mechanism). Brother is my choice in B&W printing because the costs are very low in comparison to ink jet. Brother also makes color lasers but they're substantially more expensive than the B&W and I still stick to ink jet there. Or just outsource the printing if it's of any volume.
You folks are really infuriating.
"Are you sure they are recycling them? Because if not, it's better they go directly to the landfill blah blah"
Look. Those things go in small steps. If brother sets up an infrastructure for collecting that stuff, more power to them. And if after that they end up with a huge heap consisting og 80% ABS, 10% PE and some metals, chances are *much* higher that this heap is worth recycling than your average landfill.
They've made their small step. Now it's on you to make your small step, instead of bithching from the relative safety of your mom's basement.
But the hosts file toner refill prints fewer adds, so you can print 10,000% MORE pages with the same toner. Totally worth 3 weeks.
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I dont know what retail store you are looking at for their rewards program but Ive found office depot has the best reward system. Sure you have to give them your name and address... but who cares. You can google that information about anybody. Officve Depot gives $2 per cartridge and you can turn uop to 10 a month which brings you $20. That prints out from the website as a gift certificate good on anything in store or online. So stop being so uptight about your meaningless personal information and just do it.
But the hosts file toner refill prints fewer adds, so you can print 10,000% MORE pages with the same toner. Totally worth 3 weeks.
That's your opinion - and I don't doubt you deserve to hold it. But for me - I don't want no steenking black and white ads.
This would have been an OK thing to ask 10 years ago here. But these days, Slashdot is chock full of assholes, shills, right-wing extremists, and just trash in general. Very few worthwhile people are left here any more.
Until that day arrives, don't forget to ask if they want to supersize.
I have two Brother Laser printers. I usually buy genuine Brother refills from Amazon. They come with a postage-paid return sticker. I just put the old item in the box the new one came in, attached the sticker and drop off at Post Office. There is a sticker for UPS also.
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What's best?
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AB+ EATS 128mb of RAM (vs. hosts @ 11 *maybe* tops via my program with CURRENT data, the important kind vs. current threats + ads) http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...
AB+ adds messagepassing overheads!
AB+ operates in SLOWER usermode (vs. hosts in PnP kernelmode)
AB+ creates huge CPU consumption!
AB+ is also detectable by clarityray (via native browser methods) nullifying it (not hosts).
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I use what you already have that works & does more with LESS, no less - you by way of comparison? Pile on "MoAr" that doesn't do as nearly as much & what it's supposed to do, massively inefficiently no less (see above)?
Ab+ NO LONGER DOES!
* AFTER ALL THAT?
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See subject, "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" - Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stops C&C communique
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stops C&C communique
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stops C&C communique
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily controlled data
16.) Do all that & block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory usage vs. addons
* ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it or as well + hosts = already on every device natively.
APK
P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).
+
ClarityRay defeats it dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!
+
Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
Ab+ adds complexity + slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
What's best?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
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It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
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In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
... apk
See subject & LMAO @ U, boy -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
FACT: "AlmostALLAdsBlocked+" is INFERIOR vs. hosts - hugely so!
AB+ doesn't even DO what it's supposed to fully anymore being BRIBED http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... not to!
AB+ doesn't do a FRACTION of what hosts do for more speed, security, reliability, + anonymity online!
AB+ EATS 128mb of RAM (vs. hosts @ 11 *maybe* tops via my program with CURRENT data, the important kind vs. current threats + ads) http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...
AB+ adds messagepassing overheads!
AB+ operates in SLOWER usermode (vs. hosts in PnP kernelmode)
AB+ creates huge CPU consumption!
AB+ is also detectable by clarityray (via native browser methods) nullifying it (not hosts).
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I use what you already have that works & does more with LESS, no less - you by way of comparison? Pile on "MoAr" that doesn't do as nearly as much & what it's supposed to do, massively inefficiently no less (see above)?
Ab+ NO LONGER DOES!
* AFTER ALL THAT?
AB+ = "better", Coren22?? LMAO - NO f'ing way!
If you say it is, you are *TRULY* stupid & I'd reply saying "argue with the numbers" & facts above, from reputable sources & analysis proving my points for me!
APK
P.S.=> Gonna go "cry in your cereal" now, boy?
(You ought to for being STUPID enough to use OR SUGGEST a blatantly INFERIOR solution! See above - it's fact & truth via reputable sources)... apk
Agree totally. a lot of tinfoil hats on here today.
If you actually take any big manufacturer legitimate toner cartridge to pieces you will find the mechanical components have a very high quality and quite a high manufacturing cost. I suspect they test the mechanism, and if ok then - refill the cartridge, reset the chips, and sell the thing back as new.. if not ok then they dissemble and recycle the materials and components. Either way recycling is hugely profitable. Why wouldn't any company do it?
Below the speed of light Special Relativity is one of the most accurate theories in physics - above the speed of light..
You don't have to use the store credit to buy more toner cartridges, at least not if you're talking about Staples. You can instead use it to buy stuff that is discounted, which can be a good value. For example, I have bought a few Logitech M325 mice there for $10 each during the Christmas season sales.
I wonder how much more you could print when you install ad block plus to your printer.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Find a 100,000,000 pound counterweight, fit it to a trebuchet, and fling your cartridge into the sun my friend. Problem solved!
I wonder if a 100 million pound weight is actually heavy enough to get the cartridge to escape velocity and into the sun's inexorable gravitational pull. It probably isn't. Oh well.
See subject & LMAO @ U, boy -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
FACT: "AlmostALLAdsBlocked+" is INFERIOR vs. hosts - hugely so!
AB+ doesn't even DO what it's supposed to fully anymore being BRIBED http://finance.yahoo.com/news/... not to!
AB+ doesn't do a FRACTION of what hosts do for more speed, security, reliability, + anonymity online!
AB+ EATS 128mb of RAM (vs. hosts @ 11 *maybe* tops via my program with CURRENT data, the important kind vs. current threats + ads) http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte...
AB+ adds messagepassing overheads!
AB+ operates in SLOWER usermode (vs. hosts in PnP kernelmode)
AB+ creates huge CPU consumption!
AB+ is also detectable by clarityray (via native browser methods) nullifying it (not hosts).
---
I use what you already have that works & does more with LESS, no less - you by way of comparison? Pile on "MoAr" that doesn't do as nearly as much & what it's supposed to do, massively inefficiently no less (see above)?
Ab+ NO LONGER DOES!
* AFTER ALL THAT?
AB+ = "better", Coren22?? LMAO - NO f'ing way!
If you say it is, you are *TRULY* stupid & I'd reply saying "argue with the numbers" & facts above, from reputable sources & analysis proving my points for me!
APK
P.S.=> Gonna go "cry in your cereal" now, boy?
(You ought to for being STUPID enough to use OR SUGGEST a blatantly INFERIOR solution! See above - it's fact & truth via reputable sources)... apk
See subject, "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" - Can ab+ do 16 things hosts do for speed, security, & reliability:
1.) Protect vs. malicious sites/servers (past ads)
2.) Protect vs. fastflux botnets + stops C&C communique
3.) Protect vs. dynamic dns botnets + stops C&C communique
4.) Protect vs. DGA botnets + stops C&C communique
5.) Protect vs. downed DNS (adds reliability)
6.) Protect vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns
7.) Protect vs. trackers
8.) Protect vs. spam
9.) Protect vs. phish
10.) Protect vs. caps
11.) Get you past a dnsbl
12.) Keep you off dns request logs
13.) Speed up surfing by adblocks & hardcoded fav. sites
14.) Work on anything webbound (ie email programs) multiplatform.
15.) Give you easily controlled data
16.) Do all that & block ads more efficiently in cpu + memory usage vs. addons
* ANSWER ="NO" to each on ab+ doing it or as well + hosts = already on every device natively.
APK
P.S.=> Ab+ does less than hosts & less efficiently - hosts do MORE w/ less + Hosts start w/ the IP stack before REDUNDANT inefficient addons BEGIN to operate (as 1st resolver queried):
Ab+'s 128mb memory inefficiency -> http://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-conte... (hosts consume 3-11mb using my program initially).
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ClarityRay defeats it dumping addons in use in a browser via native browser methods to do so!
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Ab+'s paid to not do its job http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
Ab+ adds complexity + slower mode of operations (usermode = more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode).
What's best?
APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit -> http://start64.com/index.php?o...
MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus http://www.av-test.org/en/news...
&
It's GUARANTEED safe & clean per it being checked by 57 antivirus programs recently in BOTH its 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
+
In its 32-bit model also https://www.virustotal.com/en/...
... apk
What's the normal lifetime for printers these decades?
I still haven't opened the second bottle from the refill kit. Does this stuff have a shelf life, and if so, why?
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"