So if I call you a child rapist and get 2 others to do the same you'll willingly go to prison for it because, after all, it's not just me saying it so it must be true.
The lot of you can never back up your claims. If they were true, it would be trivial for you to do so. If 50 million screaming fans can be wrong, so can the 5 fuckwits who follow me around Slashdot. In fact, it's more likely the handful of you are wrong, statistically speaking.
Ah yes, he's merely threatening to take out the dictator, not actually doing it. I'll remind you that's how the Bushes started, as well, and they did eventually start wars.
Why not an offer along the lines of "lose the guns at your southern border and we'll lift some sanctions; drop your nuke program and we'll lift the rest; let us build military installations within your borders and we'll protect you with our nukes" instead? You know, turn our nukes into a positive for them, rather than a negative, and entice them to become an ally, not just to us but to their neighbors who currently fear them, instead of threatening to wipe them off the map.
If that doesn't work (and similar talks were preventing escalation until Trump came along), then we threaten to wipe them off the map. But the talks were working, progress was being made, and The Cheeto King decided to throw all of that away and start taunting world leaders.
And this isn't even a Trump vs. Obama thing, either; the "same-old, same-old" you refer to came from GWB and his father. Even GWB was in talks with North Korea, though.
Yes, those things are all part of your personal self preservation. The needs of a civilized society differ greatly from the needs of an individual human, though; one of those needs is education; ergo openly educating others is a required activity for the functioning of a civilized society; ergo, to preserve itself, a civilized society must openly educate its population.
Or, put another way, do you want there to be fewer ignorant people in the world, or more? A civilized society can only survive with so many of them so, in order to preserve itself, society must eliminate them. Since we've set up our current society in such a way that they're no longer eliminated effectively by natural means, we must now immunize against them.
Put yet another way, did you not just attempt to educate me? You did. You provided information I already knew, as you missed my point and thought I needed that lesson, but you did just attempt to educate me. Are you really sure you disagree with what I'm saying? If so, why did you do that? Just some food for thought.
It's called self preservation. You have a natural obligation to do what's best for yourself and society has the same. A society that fails to live up to that obligation soon fails, as we're beginning to see over the past few decades.
It's a slow process, but it's happening. We put ourselves in a position where we believed we could stop teaching out kids common sense, so we stopped; now, we have people dying while taking selfies and walking int traffic while texting instead of looking where they're going. When those of us who know better eventually die of natural causes or fall victim to this idiocy, there will be nobody left to protect the special snowflakes and the decline will accelerate at an alarming rate.
This, my friend, is the part the skipped over in Idiocracy.
The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology.
Cloudflare didn't care if the world called them Nazi supporters, so long as they weren't using Cloudflare to do so. The Daily Stormer used Cloudflare to call Cloudflare Nazi supporters, so Cloudflare gave them the boot.
A slight correction: nobody has any obligation to him to provide an education; but, society has an obligation to itself to eradicate ignorance. The simplest means by which to do that is to educate at every opportunity. The less ignorance and apathy there is in the world, the better the world is for all of us.
Like right now: you seem to be ignorant of the above, so I've educated you despite having no obligation to you to do so. Why? Because the fewer people exist who exhibit that level of ignorance, the less frequently I am likely to encounter them, which is a net gain for everyone, including me.
When we openly educate each other, we literally all win.
The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology.
And they were well within their rights to take action to stop someone from using their own platform against them. If I may opine, I'd say it's literally the only legitimate reason to boot someone off such a service; if you're going to slander someone, it's wise to not do so on their own platform, after all.
Except that he very clearly stated what his expertise was and does, in fact, hold the degrees he claims to hold. He phrased the traffic issue in terms of his expertise as "an expert in motional feedback (displacement, velocity and acceleration feedback) of powered speakers which includes the full understanding of motion of an object such as a loudspeaker cone (or a vehicle stopping or traveling through an intersection as in ORS811.260(4))"; he, then, provided an analysis of the issue framed by that expertise.
And his analysis was correct, so you can hardly say he doesn't have the expertise he claims.
Oh, I'll show them if they ask. They won't because they know.
Cute, though. You managed to make me chuckle a bit; you earned that funny mod, for sure, and I'm just burning some karma for the hell of it. I'm curious if I'll be able to recover from Terrible to Excellent in 24 hours again like I did last time APK and his sock-puppet army came after me; I have to tank it first, though, to find out.
And yes, I recognize that I'm worse than they are at this moment. If I don't give them some legitimate ammunition once in a while, they get bored and leave me alone... and that's no fun, now, is it?
Maybe when a handful of people follow someone from comment section to comment section and consistently give them shit they shouldn't be surprised when they get called out for it. I'm not trying to make friends, here; the people I'm calling out aren't people I'd care to associate with if not for the fact that they follow me around here in an attempt to push my buttons.
More to the point, as I've told the lot of them time and again, I find it entertaining that they think they're anything more to me than a source of endless entertainment. I'll be equally entertained by their response (or lack thereof, if that may be the case) to my pointing out the double standard; they expect of my more than they are willing to give of themselves.
And, anyway, what are you doing responding to an off-topic post that isn't about you? I mean, you're welcome to it and, as the author of the off-topic post you were replying to, I'm certainly not one to judge; but maybe you should assess your own motives before questioning mine? Surely you've just learned that making a good shitpost every now and then can bring a bit of joy -- and if not, why did you post? Just food for thought.
Those who did know they did. If they deny it (assuming they respond at all) I'll bother to back it up; after all, I'm on the offensive right now, no need to take a defensive posture.
I wonder if the handful of morons who keep crying about how I'm such a liar and can never admit when I'm wrong will own up to the fact that I was right about this when it first came up a few months back. You know, with the facts and honest opinion I posted.
In other words, will the idiots stop spreading lies and admit they were wrong? You know, the things they insist I can't do, despite the frequency with which I back up my posts with actual references, come back to post corrections when I learn new information, and thank those who point me in the right direction when I'm wrong.
Will they? Huh? Will they be able to admit they were wrong?
Yes, I know this is off topic and I'm prepared to face the downmods. I just had to call out UnknowingFool, Zero__Kelvin, zifn4b, and the rest of that crew. If I'm expected to admit when I'm wrong (and I do when it happens), I expect the same from them and, well, after the dicking they've been giving me for the past few months, I deserve to gloat once.
This. I used Classic Shell for a while with Win10, but quickly dropped it when I barely noticed a difference -- because I don't typically use the parts of the UI it changes. I bet most people who are aware of Classic Shell and savvy enough to be able to install and use it are in the same boat.
Well did you check your Windows and Linux boxes for this problem?
This exact problem? No, because Windows doesn't have a root account (or user-accessible equivalent) and my Linux systems don't implement any sort of account management into their login systems.
This is precisely the sort of bug that shouldn't be able to exist; a failed login should increment a counter and update a timestamp, the value of the counter and timestamp shouldn't come into play until the correct password is entered, at which point it should fail as though an incorrect password was entered if there have been X failures in Y minutes (where X and Y are determined by the user). Last I checked, macOS doesn't even have a failed login lockout feature (server used to, but desktop does not), so it's not even plausible to say there's a bug in that implementation -- there is no implementation of that to get wrong!
But that still doesn't take away from my point, which is that all of the current platforms suck in one way or another.
If it's already been set up (e.g. a non-admin user has failed to elevate to root 3 times), I've heard reports that this bug does also allow remote connection to AFP shares, SSH, and remote access if those are enabled. I don't have an unpatched machine on hand in order to test, so I'm simply relaying. If you have an unpatched machine, you can verify it yourself; if not, I suppose it doesn't really matter.
Already checked all 4 Macs in my home to ensure they don't suffer from this. Twice now. And I think it sucks that I had to do that. What's your point?
That doesn't make Windows security suck any less, and it doesn't make the inability of Linux to run many industry-standard (depending on your industry) applications suck any less.
The truth is, all platforms suck; they all just suck at different things and in different ways. Pick the one that sucks the least for what you want/need to do and use it. Most of us here probably actually use all three major computing platforms on a regular basis, as well as both major mobile platforms, so of course you see a lot of have for all of them. Because they all suck.
You're right, I'm sure the entire ARM core dedicated to PSP just handles the boot process, then shuts down, never to be heard from again until the user reboots the system.
Epic has ALREADY invested millions in the development of the game. Anything that damages the game or player base can be judged against that investment.
That's not how it works; the game still exists, he hasn't stolen it from them, forced it offline, or done anything else to remove it from Epic's possession -- they still have 100% of the work product of their investment; and they're not monetizing it so they're not losing sales as a result of the kid's actions. There are no provable damages. Note my use of the word provable, as that makes all the difference in court. I'm not saying the actions of cheaters don't damage the game, they most assuredly do, but the courts will want some proof of the value of the damage. Epic jumped the gun on suing this kid and, while IANAL, I do have a fair amount of legal background and expertise and I'm confident the judge will advise them that they should have, instead, sought an injunction. This lawsuit will delay that, unless they file that separately, as they aren't currently seeking any sort of injunction and, near as I can tell, haven't so much as reached out to the kid (or they'd have known he was just a kid and filed against the parents -- an error they have since corrected) or even sent a simple Cease and Desist request; hell, it may well prevent them from obtaining such an injunction if the courts believe they are acting in bad faith.
Just because a company allows you to use their software and is not currently monetizing it does not give you carte-blanc to do whatever you want.
I never said it did, now, did I? No, I merely pointed out that they'll have a hell of a time proving damages in court.
I love how everyone replying to me is attacking the kid, and me at the same time, as though I was defending him when, in reality, all I was doing was pointing out the legal reality of the case: they have no provable damages. That doesn't mean they're unharmed, or that the kid wasn't wrong, it just means they're highly unlikely to see a positive outcome at trial. That's all.
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Are you implying that UnknowingFool is Trump? I mean the name and persona fit, so...
Of course it's happening here.
Uhm...
For example, it's trademark and copyright infringement to make bootleg copies of a Disney film. That doesn't mean people don't do it.
Redbox is not making copies of the film. Hell, they're not even making copies of the slip of paper the download code is on.
Neither party disagrees that it's happening here.
Actually, neither party claims that it's happening here.
At any rate, I stand by the fact that the courts will ultimately decide and there's no point in us discussing it further.
So if I call you a child rapist and get 2 others to do the same you'll willingly go to prison for it because, after all, it's not just me saying it so it must be true.
The lot of you can never back up your claims. If they were true, it would be trivial for you to do so. If 50 million screaming fans can be wrong, so can the 5 fuckwits who follow me around Slashdot. In fact, it's more likely the handful of you are wrong, statistically speaking.
Ah yes, he's merely threatening to take out the dictator, not actually doing it. I'll remind you that's how the Bushes started, as well, and they did eventually start wars.
Why not an offer along the lines of "lose the guns at your southern border and we'll lift some sanctions; drop your nuke program and we'll lift the rest; let us build military installations within your borders and we'll protect you with our nukes" instead? You know, turn our nukes into a positive for them, rather than a negative, and entice them to become an ally, not just to us but to their neighbors who currently fear them, instead of threatening to wipe them off the map.
If that doesn't work (and similar talks were preventing escalation until Trump came along), then we threaten to wipe them off the map. But the talks were working, progress was being made, and The Cheeto King decided to throw all of that away and start taunting world leaders.
And this isn't even a Trump vs. Obama thing, either; the "same-old, same-old" you refer to came from GWB and his father. Even GWB was in talks with North Korea, though.
Maybe someday America will learn that you don't convince your adversary to stop being paranoid by threatening to attack them.
We already know. We are not the orange buffoon who doesn't know.
I've proved you wrong so many times before.
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For example, it's trademark and copyright infringement to make bootleg copies of a Disney film. That doesn't mean people don't do it.
Wow, I actually agree with something you said! It's also not what's happening here.
Yes, those things are all part of your personal self preservation. The needs of a civilized society differ greatly from the needs of an individual human, though; one of those needs is education; ergo openly educating others is a required activity for the functioning of a civilized society; ergo, to preserve itself, a civilized society must openly educate its population.
Or, put another way, do you want there to be fewer ignorant people in the world, or more? A civilized society can only survive with so many of them so, in order to preserve itself, society must eliminate them. Since we've set up our current society in such a way that they're no longer eliminated effectively by natural means, we must now immunize against them.
Put yet another way, did you not just attempt to educate me? You did. You provided information I already knew, as you missed my point and thought I needed that lesson, but you did just attempt to educate me. Are you really sure you disagree with what I'm saying? If so, why did you do that? Just some food for thought.
It's called self preservation. You have a natural obligation to do what's best for yourself and society has the same. A society that fails to live up to that obligation soon fails, as we're beginning to see over the past few decades.
It's a slow process, but it's happening. We put ourselves in a position where we believed we could stop teaching out kids common sense, so we stopped; now, we have people dying while taking selfies and walking int traffic while texting instead of looking where they're going. When those of us who know better eventually die of natural causes or fall victim to this idiocy, there will be nobody left to protect the special snowflakes and the decline will accelerate at an alarming rate.
This, my friend, is the part the skipped over in Idiocracy.
The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology.
Cloudflare didn't care if the world called them Nazi supporters, so long as they weren't using Cloudflare to do so. The Daily Stormer used Cloudflare to call Cloudflare Nazi supporters, so Cloudflare gave them the boot.
A slight correction: nobody has any obligation to him to provide an education; but, society has an obligation to itself to eradicate ignorance. The simplest means by which to do that is to educate at every opportunity. The less ignorance and apathy there is in the world, the better the world is for all of us.
Like right now: you seem to be ignorant of the above, so I've educated you despite having no obligation to you to do so. Why? Because the fewer people exist who exhibit that level of ignorance, the less frequently I am likely to encounter them, which is a net gain for everyone, including me.
When we openly educate each other, we literally all win.
This isn't a video game, we don't just care about whoever has the high score.
The tipping point for us making this decision was that the team behind Daily Stormer made the claim that we were secretly supporters of their ideology.
And they were well within their rights to take action to stop someone from using their own platform against them. If I may opine, I'd say it's literally the only legitimate reason to boot someone off such a service; if you're going to slander someone, it's wise to not do so on their own platform, after all.
Aye, if this was my typical M.O. I'd be right there with you.
Except that he very clearly stated what his expertise was and does, in fact, hold the degrees he claims to hold. He phrased the traffic issue in terms of his expertise as "an expert in motional feedback (displacement, velocity and acceleration feedback) of powered speakers which includes the full understanding of motion of an object such as a loudspeaker cone (or a vehicle stopping or traveling through an intersection as in ORS811.260(4))"; he, then, provided an analysis of the issue framed by that expertise.
And his analysis was correct, so you can hardly say he doesn't have the expertise he claims.
Oh, I'll show them if they ask. They won't because they know.
Cute, though. You managed to make me chuckle a bit; you earned that funny mod, for sure, and I'm just burning some karma for the hell of it. I'm curious if I'll be able to recover from Terrible to Excellent in 24 hours again like I did last time APK and his sock-puppet army came after me; I have to tank it first, though, to find out.
And yes, I recognize that I'm worse than they are at this moment. If I don't give them some legitimate ammunition once in a while, they get bored and leave me alone... and that's no fun, now, is it?
Maybe when a handful of people follow someone from comment section to comment section and consistently give them shit they shouldn't be surprised when they get called out for it. I'm not trying to make friends, here; the people I'm calling out aren't people I'd care to associate with if not for the fact that they follow me around here in an attempt to push my buttons.
More to the point, as I've told the lot of them time and again, I find it entertaining that they think they're anything more to me than a source of endless entertainment. I'll be equally entertained by their response (or lack thereof, if that may be the case) to my pointing out the double standard; they expect of my more than they are willing to give of themselves.
And, anyway, what are you doing responding to an off-topic post that isn't about you? I mean, you're welcome to it and, as the author of the off-topic post you were replying to, I'm certainly not one to judge; but maybe you should assess your own motives before questioning mine? Surely you've just learned that making a good shitpost every now and then can bring a bit of joy -- and if not, why did you post? Just food for thought.
Those who did know they did. If they deny it (assuming they respond at all) I'll bother to back it up; after all, I'm on the offensive right now, no need to take a defensive posture.
I wonder if the handful of morons who keep crying about how I'm such a liar and can never admit when I'm wrong will own up to the fact that I was right about this when it first came up a few months back. You know, with the facts and honest opinion I posted.
In other words, will the idiots stop spreading lies and admit they were wrong? You know, the things they insist I can't do, despite the frequency with which I back up my posts with actual references, come back to post corrections when I learn new information, and thank those who point me in the right direction when I'm wrong.
Will they? Huh? Will they be able to admit they were wrong?
Yes, I know this is off topic and I'm prepared to face the downmods. I just had to call out UnknowingFool, Zero__Kelvin, zifn4b, and the rest of that crew. If I'm expected to admit when I'm wrong (and I do when it happens), I expect the same from them and, well, after the dicking they've been giving me for the past few months, I deserve to gloat once.
In your face, assholes.
This. I used Classic Shell for a while with Win10, but quickly dropped it when I barely noticed a difference -- because I don't typically use the parts of the UI it changes. I bet most people who are aware of Classic Shell and savvy enough to be able to install and use it are in the same boat.
Well did you check your Windows and Linux boxes for this problem?
This exact problem? No, because Windows doesn't have a root account (or user-accessible equivalent) and my Linux systems don't implement any sort of account management into their login systems.
This is precisely the sort of bug that shouldn't be able to exist; a failed login should increment a counter and update a timestamp, the value of the counter and timestamp shouldn't come into play until the correct password is entered, at which point it should fail as though an incorrect password was entered if there have been X failures in Y minutes (where X and Y are determined by the user). Last I checked, macOS doesn't even have a failed login lockout feature (server used to, but desktop does not), so it's not even plausible to say there's a bug in that implementation -- there is no implementation of that to get wrong!
But that still doesn't take away from my point, which is that all of the current platforms suck in one way or another.
If it's already been set up (e.g. a non-admin user has failed to elevate to root 3 times), I've heard reports that this bug does also allow remote connection to AFP shares, SSH, and remote access if those are enabled. I don't have an unpatched machine on hand in order to test, so I'm simply relaying. If you have an unpatched machine, you can verify it yourself; if not, I suppose it doesn't really matter.
Already checked all 4 Macs in my home to ensure they don't suffer from this. Twice now. And I think it sucks that I had to do that. What's your point?
That doesn't make Windows security suck any less, and it doesn't make the inability of Linux to run many industry-standard (depending on your industry) applications suck any less.
The truth is, all platforms suck; they all just suck at different things and in different ways. Pick the one that sucks the least for what you want/need to do and use it. Most of us here probably actually use all three major computing platforms on a regular basis, as well as both major mobile platforms, so of course you see a lot of have for all of them. Because they all suck.
You're right, I'm sure the entire ARM core dedicated to PSP just handles the boot process, then shuts down, never to be heard from again until the user reboots the system.
Epic has ALREADY invested millions in the development of the game. Anything that damages the game or player base can be judged against that investment.
That's not how it works; the game still exists, he hasn't stolen it from them, forced it offline, or done anything else to remove it from Epic's possession -- they still have 100% of the work product of their investment; and they're not monetizing it so they're not losing sales as a result of the kid's actions. There are no provable damages. Note my use of the word provable, as that makes all the difference in court. I'm not saying the actions of cheaters don't damage the game, they most assuredly do, but the courts will want some proof of the value of the damage. Epic jumped the gun on suing this kid and, while IANAL, I do have a fair amount of legal background and expertise and I'm confident the judge will advise them that they should have, instead, sought an injunction. This lawsuit will delay that, unless they file that separately, as they aren't currently seeking any sort of injunction and, near as I can tell, haven't so much as reached out to the kid (or they'd have known he was just a kid and filed against the parents -- an error they have since corrected) or even sent a simple Cease and Desist request; hell, it may well prevent them from obtaining such an injunction if the courts believe they are acting in bad faith.
Just because a company allows you to use their software and is not currently monetizing it does not give you carte-blanc to do whatever you want.
I never said it did, now, did I? No, I merely pointed out that they'll have a hell of a time proving damages in court.
I love how everyone replying to me is attacking the kid, and me at the same time, as though I was defending him when, in reality, all I was doing was pointing out the legal reality of the case: they have no provable damages. That doesn't mean they're unharmed, or that the kid wasn't wrong, it just means they're highly unlikely to see a positive outcome at trial. That's all.
Y'all read too much into shit.