Your phone doesn't have Bluetooth and wifi? A Bluetooth dongle for your PC is only about ten or twenty bucks. I can send photos to my PC using either, didn't have to install anything, and it's only a $125 phone.
Sorry, but you're talking to someone who's had checks stolen and forged. They also stole my debit card and watched me drunkenly punch in the PIN in an ATM.
The bank made good on the forged checks, but that PIN (and those beers) cost me thousands. Had I not had a debit+PIN I would have lost nothing.
PIN+chip helps only the merchant and card issuer, the chip also helps the cardholder who has traded a signature for a PIN. A PIN is more convenient, but for the signer a signature is far more secure.
No, you still don't get it. Fool the sixteen year old and her employer takes the bite, not me. The store or the CC Co. losing money is their problem, I have my own security to worry about, and my signature is pretty tough, you're not going to easily forge mine. In court, experts WILL be there and they can tell.
You can steal my PIN, stealing my signature is a lot harder to do. And I had a PIN stolen before, it cost thousands. I do NOT want a pun. Chip? Hell yes, that protects everyone.
But the implosion could instead be an explosion if the US feeds its dwindling resources into its military like Germany did to keep its people working during the Great Depression.
Dwindling resources??? Dude, we have no dwindling resources, this country is full of coal, oil, timber, metals, and any other resource you want. Our problem stems not from resources dwindling, but resources being hoarded by a smaller and smaller minority of Americans. The same thing happened in the 1920s, after which they learned that countries NEED middle classes.
I think a more likely scenario is from a book by a well known author I'd never heard of I found on the "free books" table in the break room, Revolution No. 9 (it was well written, and a good read).
Unlike you I've got better things to do than spend my day leaning against the dryer while it rumbles.
Every dryer I've ever owned has had a very loud buzzer that informed me that the clothes were dry, no matter where in the house I was. As to preheating the oven, my phone has an alarm clock. That works fine for reminding me the oven is hot. That, and the smell of its last pizza.
I see no utility at all.
I do want a smart refrigerator, but not one hooked to the internet. I've wondered for YEARS why fridges don't have vents going outside. In the winter, the cold outside air could keep your compressor from turning most of the winter, saving a LOT of money (compressors use a lot of energy) and in summer it could vent the heat from the compressor outside, saving electricity your AC doesn't have to use to cool that hot air back down.
You dumb fuck, who do you think creates inflation? 1971, motherfucker, do you recognise the year?
Yeah, it was the year I joined the USAF. 1974, motherfucker, do you recognize that year? The Arab Oil Embargo. When I went to Thailand in August 1973 gas was thirty five cents a gallon. When I got back in August 1974 fuel costs had doubled -- and it was a world-wide phenomena, I remember how pissed off the Thai taxi drivers were, it was killing them financially.
And everything relies on fuel. If the price of corn goes up the price of meat will, too, but when the price of fuel rises, everything goes up because everything is dependent on fuel. Fuel to mine the ore, fuel to transport the ore, fuel to fire the factory furnaces, fuel to ship the finished product.
On top of this, VIETNAM. Wars are expensive and we had to pay for it. So they paid by printing money. Had they stayed on the gold standard, God only knows what would have happened, because it did work out in the end, unlike the 1920s.
All regulations are taxes
OK, taking your stupidly trollish assertion as true, taxes are the price of civilization. I LOVE the EPA, because I grew up two miles from Monsanto; a factory so vile that driving past it you had to roll the windows up because it literally burned your lungs. Ninety five degrees F with rolled up windows and no AC. After the EPA? You might catch a whiff of bleach on a bad day.
I honestly can't tell if you're real or not, Poe's Law and all...
Slashdot editors are technologists, not English majors. I do suggest to them that they hire a couple of English majors to do a quick proofread when the editors are done, though (not me, I'm literate but that wasn't even my minor, and I'm retiring this month anyway).
Worst case scenario (criminal has your card and it isn't cancelled) chip+PIN is no worse than mag stripe+signature.
It is for the cardholder. With chip+PIN if they've stolen your PIN too, you're ruined. But forgery isn't easy, and a hard to forge signature is almost impossible to duplicate. PIN? Just be a little careless taking money out of an ATM after you've had a few beers, and if someone is watching and can steal your wallet, well, you're royally fucked.
IF you could clearly sign all of those touch-screen signature pads, AND some system actually compared what was input to your signature on file, then maybe.
No. I don't care if the banks get ripped off, that's their problem, not mine. I have no problem signing a signature pad; some places like WalMart don't even use the actual check so you sign that electronic thing. It works for me. Someone stole some checks from me and forged them, WalMart and other stores paid the price for not checking the signature on my ID. One place I'd never stepped foot in (and certainly never will now), Casey's General Store, went through five collection agencies trying to get me to pay for their stupidity. The harrassment stopped when I got hold of the county DA.
PIN, otoh, puts the onus on YOU. Someone steals your pin they can bankrupt you.
the fabulous disaster that is/.'s moderation system.
Slashdot's moderation is a disaster?? Sorry, Smitty, but it only looks that way to you because nobody's modding up those calling climate change a liberal plot. Slashdot has, AFAIK, the best moderation system now on the internet (it used to be even better before they changed metamoderation).
In the last year or two I've seen more bad moderations, but I've also seen many more obviously uneducated yahoos here who write like a third grader and make incredibly stupid comments. Stupid people are going to moderate stupidly.
Point to ONE site with better moderation. What's wrong with slashdot's system? Why do you consider it a "disaster"?
I personally don't have any problem with the chip at all, in fact I'm all for that. What I am against is the PIN -- the PIN is the reason why I refuse to use debit cards any more.
Several years ago someone watched me drunkenly punch my PIN in an ATM, then proceeded to steal my debit card, a book of checks, and the car I'd just bought a week earlier.
The bank made good on the forged checks, but the that God damned PIN cost me thousands of dollars and almost got me hit with a felony, since the $800 check for the down payment of my car bounced, all my money having been drained. See, a signature is only valid if it matches yours, and mine is really hard to copy (that was deliberate BTW). However, a PIN is valid even if you've stolen it.
No, I do NOT want to enter a PIN number. If I have to enter a PIN I'll cancel both my cards, it simply isn't worth the risk. There has to be a better way than a PIN.
I would if I knew where to get hash oil. My friend's son had one, I quite liked it but he has trouble getting oil, and he's in the St Louis area, Springfield's only 110k people.
And there's the legal angle, here in town it's like a traffic ticket, not even a misdemeanor for small amounts. They're a lot harder on hash.
is it illogical not to accept death if you have a debilitating illness
I agree that not accepting death under permanently debilitating conditions is illogical, but the original thread started when someone said something to the effect that people over 80 should just accept death no matter their health. That's worse than illogical, it's downright stupid. Half of all people who live to sixty are still alive at 90. I have a 95 year old uncle that Mom says looks 70.
I did, in topics about beta, and I emailed them. I'd be fine with beta if I could ignore it, but the problem is they're running full speed ahead with getting rid of classic.
Just tried to get to the altslashdot site, got a 404.
I have no fear of death, since I experienced it once. I know what's coming and it isn't the least bit scary. Now, my grandma said "I don't know why anybody wants to live to be a hundred, it ain't no fun being old." But she was 95 and in a wheelchair when she said that (she did live six months short of a hundred years) after outliving all her friends, 3 of her 4 children, and 2 husbands.
Can't really see any point in sticking around any longer. Why would you want to?
It looks like insanity runs in your family. I turn 62 in April and retire this month. For the first time in my life I'm FREE. I can do anything I want.
Your deathwish is crazy, you should seek professional help.
No, he's right. Most people's smoking don't leave any noticeable symptoms at all until after middle age. My great uncle started smoking at age 12 and stopped at age 82, died at age 94. But like the guy dead at 40 he was in the long tail, and not normal. Most smokers have breathing problems by age 60. Also, he might have lived another ten years if he'd never smoked. The guy in the above comment probably wouldn't have made it much past 60 if he hadn't smoked, but it certainly would have been worth it.
Accepting death at any age is what is illogical, not the reverse. My mom's 85 and bowls every week, she should just lay down and wait to die like her dad did when he was forced to retire? That's not just illogical, it's stupid.
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Your phone doesn't have Bluetooth and wifi? A Bluetooth dongle for your PC is only about ten or twenty bucks. I can send photos to my PC using either, didn't have to install anything, and it's only a $125 phone.
Only a 2? Where are the moderators?
Thanks, I'll try that. As to tobacco, I never did like blunts.
Sorry, but you're talking to someone who's had checks stolen and forged. They also stole my debit card and watched me drunkenly punch in the PIN in an ATM.
The bank made good on the forged checks, but that PIN (and those beers) cost me thousands. Had I not had a debit+PIN I would have lost nothing.
PIN+chip helps only the merchant and card issuer, the chip also helps the cardholder who has traded a signature for a PIN. A PIN is more convenient, but for the signer a signature is far more secure.
No, you still don't get it. Fool the sixteen year old and her employer takes the bite, not me. The store or the CC Co. losing money is their problem, I have my own security to worry about, and my signature is pretty tough, you're not going to easily forge mine. In court, experts WILL be there and they can tell.
You can steal my PIN, stealing my signature is a lot harder to do. And I had a PIN stolen before, it cost thousands. I do NOT want a pun. Chip? Hell yes, that protects everyone.
Well, yeah, that works when you're sober. But alcohol never raised anybody's IQ a single point. One gets sloppy drinking.
But the implosion could instead be an explosion if the US feeds its dwindling resources into its military like Germany did to keep its people working during the Great Depression.
Dwindling resources??? Dude, we have no dwindling resources, this country is full of coal, oil, timber, metals, and any other resource you want. Our problem stems not from resources dwindling, but resources being hoarded by a smaller and smaller minority of Americans. The same thing happened in the 1920s, after which they learned that countries NEED middle classes.
I think a more likely scenario is from a book by a well known author I'd never heard of I found on the "free books" table in the break room, Revolution No. 9 (it was well written, and a good read).
Unlike you I've got better things to do than spend my day leaning against the dryer while it rumbles.
Every dryer I've ever owned has had a very loud buzzer that informed me that the clothes were dry, no matter where in the house I was. As to preheating the oven, my phone has an alarm clock. That works fine for reminding me the oven is hot. That, and the smell of its last pizza.
I see no utility at all.
I do want a smart refrigerator, but not one hooked to the internet. I've wondered for YEARS why fridges don't have vents going outside. In the winter, the cold outside air could keep your compressor from turning most of the winter, saving a LOT of money (compressors use a lot of energy) and in summer it could vent the heat from the compressor outside, saving electricity your AC doesn't have to use to cool that hot air back down.
You dumb fuck, who do you think creates inflation? 1971, motherfucker, do you recognise the year?
Yeah, it was the year I joined the USAF. 1974, motherfucker, do you recognize that year? The Arab Oil Embargo. When I went to Thailand in August 1973 gas was thirty five cents a gallon. When I got back in August 1974 fuel costs had doubled -- and it was a world-wide phenomena, I remember how pissed off the Thai taxi drivers were, it was killing them financially.
And everything relies on fuel. If the price of corn goes up the price of meat will, too, but when the price of fuel rises, everything goes up because everything is dependent on fuel. Fuel to mine the ore, fuel to transport the ore, fuel to fire the factory furnaces, fuel to ship the finished product.
On top of this, VIETNAM. Wars are expensive and we had to pay for it. So they paid by printing money. Had they stayed on the gold standard, God only knows what would have happened, because it did work out in the end, unlike the 1920s.
All regulations are taxes
OK, taking your stupidly trollish assertion as true, taxes are the price of civilization. I LOVE the EPA, because I grew up two miles from Monsanto; a factory so vile that driving past it you had to roll the windows up because it literally burned your lungs. Ninety five degrees F with rolled up windows and no AC. After the EPA? You might catch a whiff of bleach on a bad day.
I honestly can't tell if you're real or not, Poe's Law and all...
Slashdot editors are technologists, not English majors. I do suggest to them that they hire a couple of English majors to do a quick proofread when the editors are done, though (not me, I'm literate but that wasn't even my minor, and I'm retiring this month anyway).
Worst case scenario (criminal has your card and it isn't cancelled) chip+PIN is no worse than mag stripe+signature.
It is for the cardholder. With chip+PIN if they've stolen your PIN too, you're ruined. But forgery isn't easy, and a hard to forge signature is almost impossible to duplicate. PIN? Just be a little careless taking money out of an ATM after you've had a few beers, and if someone is watching and can steal your wallet, well, you're royally fucked.
IF you could clearly sign all of those touch-screen signature pads, AND some system actually compared what was input to your signature on file, then maybe.
No. I don't care if the banks get ripped off, that's their problem, not mine. I have no problem signing a signature pad; some places like WalMart don't even use the actual check so you sign that electronic thing. It works for me. Someone stole some checks from me and forged them, WalMart and other stores paid the price for not checking the signature on my ID. One place I'd never stepped foot in (and certainly never will now), Casey's General Store, went through five collection agencies trying to get me to pay for their stupidity. The harrassment stopped when I got hold of the county DA.
PIN, otoh, puts the onus on YOU. Someone steals your pin they can bankrupt you.
the fabulous disaster that is /.'s moderation system.
Slashdot's moderation is a disaster?? Sorry, Smitty, but it only looks that way to you because nobody's modding up those calling climate change a liberal plot. Slashdot has, AFAIK, the best moderation system now on the internet (it used to be even better before they changed metamoderation).
In the last year or two I've seen more bad moderations, but I've also seen many more obviously uneducated yahoos here who write like a third grader and make incredibly stupid comments. Stupid people are going to moderate stupidly.
Point to ONE site with better moderation. What's wrong with slashdot's system? Why do you consider it a "disaster"?
I personally don't have any problem with the chip at all, in fact I'm all for that. What I am against is the PIN -- the PIN is the reason why I refuse to use debit cards any more.
Several years ago someone watched me drunkenly punch my PIN in an ATM, then proceeded to steal my debit card, a book of checks, and the car I'd just bought a week earlier.
The bank made good on the forged checks, but the that God damned PIN cost me thousands of dollars and almost got me hit with a felony, since the $800 check for the down payment of my car bounced, all my money having been drained. See, a signature is only valid if it matches yours, and mine is really hard to copy (that was deliberate BTW). However, a PIN is valid even if you've stolen it.
No, I do NOT want to enter a PIN number. If I have to enter a PIN I'll cancel both my cards, it simply isn't worth the risk. There has to be a better way than a PIN.
I would if I knew where to get hash oil. My friend's son had one, I quite liked it but he has trouble getting oil, and he's in the St Louis area, Springfield's only 110k people.
And there's the legal angle, here in town it's like a traffic ticket, not even a misdemeanor for small amounts. They're a lot harder on hash.
Apparently, I tried for a while and got it to almost load.
Thank you for that. I'm hopeful you guys will fix it.
is it illogical not to accept death if you have a debilitating illness
I agree that not accepting death under permanently debilitating conditions is illogical, but the original thread started when someone said something to the effect that people over 80 should just accept death no matter their health. That's worse than illogical, it's downright stupid. Half of all people who live to sixty are still alive at 90. I have a 95 year old uncle that Mom says looks 70.
It was slashdotted yesterday, today I got a 404. It has a new domain name, I can't remember what it is, soylent something dot org.
I did, in topics about beta, and I emailed them. I'd be fine with beta if I could ignore it, but the problem is they're running full speed ahead with getting rid of classic.
Just tried to get to the altslashdot site, got a 404.
I have no fear of death, since I experienced it once. I know what's coming and it isn't the least bit scary. Now, my grandma said "I don't know why anybody wants to live to be a hundred, it ain't no fun being old." But she was 95 and in a wheelchair when she said that (she did live six months short of a hundred years) after outliving all her friends, 3 of her 4 children, and 2 husbands.
If you're healthy, a death wish is not sane.
Can't really see any point in sticking around any longer. Why would you want to?
It looks like insanity runs in your family. I turn 62 in April and retire this month. For the first time in my life I'm FREE. I can do anything I want.
Your deathwish is crazy, you should seek professional help.
Apologies, but your grandpa was a coward and his decision was horribly illogical. I'm in my 60s and I have plenty to live for.
No, he's right. Most people's smoking don't leave any noticeable symptoms at all until after middle age. My great uncle started smoking at age 12 and stopped at age 82, died at age 94. But like the guy dead at 40 he was in the long tail, and not normal. Most smokers have breathing problems by age 60. Also, he might have lived another ten years if he'd never smoked. The guy in the above comment probably wouldn't have made it much past 60 if he hadn't smoked, but it certainly would have been worth it.
Refusing to accept death at 82 is illogical.
Accepting death at any age is what is illogical, not the reverse. My mom's 85 and bowls every week, she should just lay down and wait to die like her dad did when he was forced to retire? That's not just illogical, it's stupid.