I had Google search boxes on my sites. The difference is that when you use one of these Google search boxes, you know you're using Google; the box is clearly marked with the famous G. With Bing, that's not the case. You're sent there by stealth.
Ah, an authoritarian anti-freedom nanny stater. I never could understand people like you. God damn it, an adult should have the right to fuck his life up any way he wants, whether it's shooting heroin, gambling at the stock market, gambling in a casino, or getting married. I really fucked my own life up with that one, but I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to be told it was prohibited.
Currently i pay 50.00 a month for unlimited text, data, and voice, i can even tether it to my laptop.
Who are you with? My carrier's TOS forbits tethering. I want the one you have.
that being said, if they do this...ill cancel my internet and use a open wifi.
That's what I did for quite a while before I got an ISP. The only trouble was if there wasn't an open hotspot at the time, I couldn't get on the internet.
it's worrying that they haven't been litigated to hell and back over it yet!
This is America, where we have the God-given right to lie our asses off about anything. In Kraft's ad, the fact that it's a trademark and Kraft is HQed in the US shields them from lawsuits, which only their competetitors can file. Unlike Britain (and I assume other more civilized nations), a consumer can't file a false advertising lawsuit here.
IMO the whole idea of needing an app to access a particular web site is a BAD idea from the user's standpoint.
BTW, when are they going to get HTML5 finalized so we can ditch Flash? I just upgraded my OS to 12.01 and now Flash won't work. Every other app on the computer rusn faster and better, but I can't listen to the radio or watch video streams now. Seems that box only has 750 megs of memory and the new Flash requires a gig.
I guess their definition of "upgrade" is "make the sucker spend money on hardware" rather than "make the app work better and need less hardware". I guess I'll have to downgrade my OS, I have other needs for that PC (like a TV tuner card and a new DVD burner since the old one is about worn out and a bigger hard drive).
When I rekeyed the locks at my last house, I just took them to the locksmith while a friend watched my house for me. Took him five minutes and only cost about five bucks each (maybe less, it was a few years ago and my memory is fuzzy).
It would have been more expensive to buy new locks at Home Depot. The locksmith was worth the money!
I know you're joking (at least I hope you are), but there are actually people who believe that a sentient electronic computer could become sentient. Really dumb IMO, sentience is a product of chemistry, not electricity, and we don't have a fucking clue what it is, what causes it, or how it works.
Asking anyone from the forseeable future to design a sentient computer is like asking a cro-magnon to design a cell phone. You have to know what a thing is and what it does and how it works to duplicate it.
The troubling (to me) thing is you can use trickery, especially with a computer that powerful, to create the illusion of sentience where none exists.
Bullshit. Opera and Mozilla and Google have historically made far more secure browsers than Microsoft has. Most feel that "Microsoft security" is an oxymoron.
Non-techies don't care about "browser choice".
IE is the dominant browser because it comes pre-installed, while you have to install any other browser. It's a matter of "well, it works I guess, why change it?"
Just because IE6 was terrible doesn't automatically mean that a restricted browser platform is bad
What's bad is a monoculture. When you have only 3 phone OSes and 3 phone browsers, the bad guys have only 3 targets. That's one reason Linux and Mac don't get hit by malware, because there are so many Windows machines there's no incentive for anybody to break in (well, also because both those OSes are inherently more secure, but that's beside my point).
Vendors are trying to avoid the mistakes of the past (IE6) by providing secure, restricted platforms for running web code. If they didn't and became infested with exploits, techies would be shitting all over them for THAT
<sarcasm> Yeah, because slashdot users have such huge political clout... </sarcasm>
I was thinking of the same episode. It's weird how we've surpassed almost all of the science fiction of my youth, let alone that written before I was born. In 1966 everything in Star Trek was pure fantasy -- doors that opened all by themselves, space shuttles, talking voice-activated computers with flat screens, communicators, McCoy's sick bay (you kids can't imagine how primitive medicine was in 1966), Uhura's bluetooth earpiece... all fantasy that nobody ever expected to actually see in their lifetimes. Yet the only things from STOS we don't have today is matter replicators and warp drives.
This is what scares me away from municipal fiber / municipal wireless. In a civilized world it would work, but in the USA, if you are a municipal internet customer and open a trouble ticket, you could realistically expect the police to break down your door, stomp your puppy to death, and beat you, because thats just how law enforcement rolls in the land of the free.
Well, that depends on what city you live in and who is running things there. A decade back I called the Mayor (who actually talked to me!) complaining about the taste of the city water; I had to buy a filter and take water to work with me, city water was undrinkable. I was never harrassed orr threatened, and the water tasted very good just two days later.
She retired and we got a new Mayor, and after my (now ex) wife was in an accident with a city truck that had run a red light, I got pulled over every damned day.
But corporate monopolies can fuck you over, too. The city owns the power company, and we have (but not for long I fear, we got a new Mayor after Davlin committed suicide) the lowest rates and the best uptime in the state, and customer service is about as friendly as it could possibly be. Two F2 (nearly F3) tornados hit here on March 12, 2006 and completely destroyed the electrical infrastructure in a large swath of he town. The entire town was without power for several hours, and a week later everyone's electricity was back on. It took a month for anyone to get landline phone or cable service back. The city's scars from the tornado were still there two years later; it was a humungous mess.
That June a weak F1 hit the St Louis area. A month later I visited a friend in Cahokia (in the path of the tornado, right across the river from St Louis) and he still had no power, but that was the only evidence that there had even been a tornado.
So all in all, after my experiences, I'd pick municipal internet over corporate internet any day. They just raised our electric rates, and I expect the Mayor (the real head of the power company) to not be re-elected because of that.
If the service is municipal owned and the rates are high and the service is shitty, the mayor loses his job. In a corporation, you have no pull whatever. What are you going to do, buy your electricity from another provider?
Now, if this was Chicago instead of Springfield, I wouldn't want to contract for city-run ANYTHING.
Go back to digg, kid. Slashdot is for adults who want to discuss serious issues concerning tech, science, engineering, and other nerdy topics. Oh, and the ocassional joke as well. Check your FAQ, the fud thread is a troll here.
You remind me of a thread several years ago where people wre saying how dumb it was to use your real name on the internet. I pointed out that that my username is my meatspace last name, that my journals peg me fairly well, and it would still be hard to find out who I really was. Some slashdotter proudly displayed Stev McGrew's phone number, address, and other info -- but the info he posted was for a Canadian. I live in Illinois.
Which pretty much backs up your point. You're anonymous even when you use your real name!
Uh.. $100 a month? You can get decent DSL in my town for $21.99 a month.
You'll be able to if the greedsters get this passed, too. Unless, of course, you use Hulu or Netflix or YouTube or stream radio stations or play online games or...
I am afraid to think what will happen i4 years from now if this administration is to win the upcoming election
I am afraid to think what will happen 4 years from now no matter who wins. I fear Romney would be even worse. No matter, I plan on voting for a loser, probably Green party unless they run another nut case like McKinney.
Well, it seems like a lot of our white-collar CEOs are kleptocrats, and obviously feel the world owes them something.
You just pointed out an interesting fact: The right wingers accuse the poor of having an "entitlemant attitude" when I've never met a poor person who felt entitled to anything except a fair chance, and most rich people demonstrate incredible amounts of an entitlement attitude. What cars are taking two parking spaces? Yep, those giant Caddilac SUV and the giant 4 passenger pickup trucks. Who feels entitled to part of your lane? Yep, same people. Who do you see whizzing past you on the interstate going at least 20mph over the limit? Same cars, plus Lexuses and Porches and the like. They think they're so entitled that they don't even have to make a pretense of obeying the law.
What makes you think there will be no women? There are female astronauts and cosmonauts. There are people at the south pole right now, which is more like the moon than anywhere else on earth; you're stuck in a metal box away from everyone. The only difference is the gravity and lack of atmosphere.
Oh wait, damit/. get with the 90s and add a edit button.
There is an edit button. It's marked "preview". Being able to edit already submitted posts would be incredibly stupid, you could make an insightful comment that garnered a 5, then edit it so it was a GNAA troll.
Don't blame slashdot for your failure to proofread. Blame the one responsible -- YOU.
I had Google search boxes on my sites. The difference is that when you use one of these Google search boxes, you know you're using Google; the box is clearly marked with the famous G. With Bing, that's not the case. You're sent there by stealth.
I kept loosing the insertion point and couldn't navigate the text!
Well, there's your problem right there. Rather than loosing it you should have tightened it.
We need to work on a method of getting Internet threw many other companies
Well, the internet did throw quite a few companies, especially media companies.
Ah, an authoritarian anti-freedom nanny stater. I never could understand people like you. God damn it, an adult should have the right to fuck his life up any way he wants, whether it's shooting heroin, gambling at the stock market, gambling in a casino, or getting married. I really fucked my own life up with that one, but I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to be told it was prohibited.
Currently i pay 50.00 a month for unlimited text, data, and voice, i can even tether it to my laptop.
Who are you with? My carrier's TOS forbits tethering. I want the one you have.
that being said, if they do this...ill cancel my internet and use a open wifi.
That's what I did for quite a while before I got an ISP. The only trouble was if there wasn't an open hotspot at the time, I couldn't get on the internet.
"This isn't an argument!"
"Yes it is."
"No it isn't."
it's worrying that they haven't been litigated to hell and back over it yet!
This is America, where we have the God-given right to lie our asses off about anything. In Kraft's ad, the fact that it's a trademark and Kraft is HQed in the US shields them from lawsuits, which only their competetitors can file. Unlike Britain (and I assume other more civilized nations), a consumer can't file a false advertising lawsuit here.
No, because you'll still start at 0 and we won't even see it. ACs that get modded up already do get respect.
IMO the whole idea of needing an app to access a particular web site is a BAD idea from the user's standpoint.
BTW, when are they going to get HTML5 finalized so we can ditch Flash? I just upgraded my OS to 12.01 and now Flash won't work. Every other app on the computer rusn faster and better, but I can't listen to the radio or watch video streams now. Seems that box only has 750 megs of memory and the new Flash requires a gig.
I guess their definition of "upgrade" is "make the sucker spend money on hardware" rather than "make the app work better and need less hardware". I guess I'll have to downgrade my OS, I have other needs for that PC (like a TV tuner card and a new DVD burner since the old one is about worn out and a bigger hard drive).
When I rekeyed the locks at my last house, I just took them to the locksmith while a friend watched my house for me. Took him five minutes and only cost about five bucks each (maybe less, it was a few years ago and my memory is fuzzy).
It would have been more expensive to buy new locks at Home Depot. The locksmith was worth the money!
I know you're joking (at least I hope you are), but there are actually people who believe that a sentient electronic computer could become sentient. Really dumb IMO, sentience is a product of chemistry, not electricity, and we don't have a fucking clue what it is, what causes it, or how it works.
Asking anyone from the forseeable future to design a sentient computer is like asking a cro-magnon to design a cell phone. You have to know what a thing is and what it does and how it works to duplicate it.
The troubling (to me) thing is you can use trickery, especially with a computer that powerful, to create the illusion of sentience where none exists.
Anyone who takes you serious should read this.
This is a security issue.
Bullshit. Opera and Mozilla and Google have historically made far more secure browsers than Microsoft has. Most feel that "Microsoft security" is an oxymoron.
Non-techies don't care about "browser choice".
IE is the dominant browser because it comes pre-installed, while you have to install any other browser. It's a matter of "well, it works I guess, why change it?"
Just because IE6 was terrible doesn't automatically mean that a restricted browser platform is bad
What's bad is a monoculture. When you have only 3 phone OSes and 3 phone browsers, the bad guys have only 3 targets. That's one reason Linux and Mac don't get hit by malware, because there are so many Windows machines there's no incentive for anybody to break in (well, also because both those OSes are inherently more secure, but that's beside my point).
Vendors are trying to avoid the mistakes of the past (IE6) by providing secure, restricted platforms for running web code. If they didn't and became infested with exploits, techies would be shitting all over them for THAT
<sarcasm>
Yeah, because slashdot users have such huge political clout...
</sarcasm>
Well, the fellow sounds like he hasn't had his coffee yet. I've been known to make stupid comments when I'm caffiene-deprived.
I was thinking of the same episode. It's weird how we've surpassed almost all of the science fiction of my youth, let alone that written before I was born. In 1966 everything in Star Trek was pure fantasy -- doors that opened all by themselves, space shuttles, talking voice-activated computers with flat screens, communicators, McCoy's sick bay (you kids can't imagine how primitive medicine was in 1966), Uhura's bluetooth earpiece... all fantasy that nobody ever expected to actually see in their lifetimes. Yet the only things from STOS we don't have today is matter replicators and warp drives.
I live in the science fiction future of my youth!
That was hilarious, thank you. Moderators, please look at the parent poster's username. It's both funny and insightful.
This is what scares me away from municipal fiber / municipal wireless. In a civilized world it would work, but in the USA, if you are a municipal internet customer and open a trouble ticket, you could realistically expect the police to break down your door, stomp your puppy to death, and beat you, because thats just how law enforcement rolls in the land of the free.
Well, that depends on what city you live in and who is running things there. A decade back I called the Mayor (who actually talked to me!) complaining about the taste of the city water; I had to buy a filter and take water to work with me, city water was undrinkable. I was never harrassed orr threatened, and the water tasted very good just two days later.
She retired and we got a new Mayor, and after my (now ex) wife was in an accident with a city truck that had run a red light, I got pulled over every damned day.
But corporate monopolies can fuck you over, too. The city owns the power company, and we have (but not for long I fear, we got a new Mayor after Davlin committed suicide) the lowest rates and the best uptime in the state, and customer service is about as friendly as it could possibly be. Two F2 (nearly F3) tornados hit here on March 12, 2006 and completely destroyed the electrical infrastructure in a large swath of he town. The entire town was without power for several hours, and a week later everyone's electricity was back on. It took a month for anyone to get landline phone or cable service back. The city's scars from the tornado were still there two years later; it was a humungous mess.
That June a weak F1 hit the St Louis area. A month later I visited a friend in Cahokia (in the path of the tornado, right across the river from St Louis) and he still had no power, but that was the only evidence that there had even been a tornado.
So all in all, after my experiences, I'd pick municipal internet over corporate internet any day. They just raised our electric rates, and I expect the Mayor (the real head of the power company) to not be re-elected because of that.
If the service is municipal owned and the rates are high and the service is shitty, the mayor loses his job. In a corporation, you have no pull whatever. What are you going to do, buy your electricity from another provider?
Now, if this was Chicago instead of Springfield, I wouldn't want to contract for city-run ANYTHING.
Go back to digg, kid. Slashdot is for adults who want to discuss serious issues concerning tech, science, engineering, and other nerdy topics. Oh, and the ocassional joke as well. Check your FAQ, the fud thread is a troll here.
Now shoo. Get off our lawn.
You remind me of a thread several years ago where people wre saying how dumb it was to use your real name on the internet. I pointed out that that my username is my meatspace last name, that my journals peg me fairly well, and it would still be hard to find out who I really was. Some slashdotter proudly displayed Stev McGrew's phone number, address, and other info -- but the info he posted was for a Canadian. I live in Illinois.
Which pretty much backs up your point. You're anonymous even when you use your real name!
Uh.. $100 a month? You can get decent DSL in my town for $21.99 a month.
You'll be able to if the greedsters get this passed, too. Unless, of course, you use Hulu or Netflix or YouTube or stream radio stations or play online games or...
I am afraid to think what will happen i4 years from now if this administration is to win the upcoming election
I am afraid to think what will happen 4 years from now no matter who wins. I fear Romney would be even worse. No matter, I plan on voting for a loser, probably Green party unless they run another nut case like McKinney.
Well, it seems like a lot of our white-collar CEOs are kleptocrats, and obviously feel the world owes them something.
You just pointed out an interesting fact: The right wingers accuse the poor of having an "entitlemant attitude" when I've never met a poor person who felt entitled to anything except a fair chance, and most rich people demonstrate incredible amounts of an entitlement attitude. What cars are taking two parking spaces? Yep, those giant Caddilac SUV and the giant 4 passenger pickup trucks. Who feels entitled to part of your lane? Yep, same people. Who do you see whizzing past you on the interstate going at least 20mph over the limit? Same cars, plus Lexuses and Porches and the like. They think they're so entitled that they don't even have to make a pretense of obeying the law.
What makes you think there will be no women? There are female astronauts and cosmonauts. There are people at the south pole right now, which is more like the moon than anywhere else on earth; you're stuck in a metal box away from everyone. The only difference is the gravity and lack of atmosphere.
Oh wait, damit /. get with the 90s and add a edit button.
There is an edit button. It's marked "preview". Being able to edit already submitted posts would be incredibly stupid, you could make an insightful comment that garnered a 5, then edit it so it was a GNAA troll.
Don't blame slashdot for your failure to proofread. Blame the one responsible -- YOU.
Is he so greedy that he's gotta do this kind of crap?
You don't get to be VP of any company without huge surpluses of greed and huge defecits of morality.
you want to see a HUGE sell out, look at him and is multiple stances on every issue depending on who is paying the most
Well, you have to remember that Romney is a Ferengi (and Obama is a Romulan).