I haven't tried Suse in almost a decade, I may give it another shot. Back then I had driver issues with it, but I would imagine that may be a thing of the past. Being slower may be problematic, I guess I 'll see.
That is so. Boot times increased rather than decreased until this century. But it was more like 5-10 seconds on my IBM. But if you had a Commodore or the like with the OS in ROM boot speeds were far faster than the IBM.
It was called CompuServe, and IIRC was $3 per month. But there were a lot of reasons being online didn't take off.
One was technology. 300 baud was the norm, far slower than 28.8, The most powerful PC at the time (I'll get disagreement over this; Amiga for one) was the IBM XT. 8088 processor, 64k of memory, and a humungous ten meg hard drive. Cost was prohibitive, an IBM cost thousands of dollars.
There was little content and no search capabilities.
It was a walled garden.
"Why in the world do you have a computer?" Only us nerds had computers back then.
It was text only, with no hypertext.
I found it to be pretty useless. Later in the decade I was on the BBSes on a used IBM with 28.8, and even then my online presence was mostly sharing software. An email could take days to be delivered, since the BBSes were seldom online 24/7 and few had many connections. I still got most of my software on floppies from shareware stores.
The internet didn't happen because nobody and nothing was ready for it. The internet happened when it was time for it to happen.
It was the 80's, everyone was too busy with hairspray, good music and doing coke to care about the internet.
I saw far more hair spray in the '60s, most music sucked than as badly as now (although thankfully disco had died and there was a lot of good rock and roll). Most music has always sucked. The "90% of everything is crap" has always been true. And coke was always too expensive for most people to do much of; coke was mostly a yuppie thing.
if you like a tablet-style interface for your desktop (or just something a bit different from whatever version of Windows is popular at the time), what's wrong with it?
Well, that's the thing -- I don't want a tablet style interface and don't care if it's anything like Windows or not. I've been using KDE for almost a decade
That's one thing I love about Linux and hate about Windows -- I don't have to relearn a new interface every time it's upgraded. And I never did like Gnome.
I have a Mint installation ISO, I may try it. Not sure what desktop it uses, change for the sake of change is counterproductive. I need a damned good reason to learn a new interface, there are far more interesting things to learn.
I just updated to kubuntu 11.10 a couple of months ago, and am annoyed that it's now almost impossible to highlight more than one item in Dolphin to move to and from the notebook over the network. It's problematic because I'm using that computer as a media center and the keyboard is usually on a shelf.
I wonder if that's fixed? Probably not, but then it's not a Linux or Ubuntu issue, but a KDE issue.
As to the kernel itself, I've never experienced any bugs in it at all (not that there may be some, of course).
That particular episode needs tons of suspension of disbelief. We are descended from the same protomammals as mice and elephants. Bonobos and chimps and us descended from the same species only a few million years ago.
There could be some good SF set a few hundred thousand years in the future where human on the edge of the solar system diverge from us. Hmm, maybe I should write it.
Javascript is by far the most egregious, with flash running a close second.
Only bad, misused javascript. Javascript is simply plain text, and a good programmer doesn't need to use much. Unfortunately, few web sires have good programmers and many don't have any at all, using software HTML writers that may load a whole javascript library when one or two lines of it is all that's actually used.
I do my best to avoid those sites.
even have one of those damned toilets that require five to six flushes to get the job done
I drive a sedan and it has quite a large blind spot. Almost all fatalities in the backup accidents are small children, who you can't expect to know any better.
I wish I had a backup camera in my car. I may install one myself.
I got a nice Sony Blueray player off amazon for $78. It has netflix, hulu, and all that crap and a USB port on the front.
And comes with XCP and on its next upgrade they take away netflix and hulu, and then store your credit card number in an unencrypted, internet-facing database. What kind of fool would buy a Sony after all the underhanded shit they've pulled on their paying customers in the last ten years?
A modern induction stove gives you perfect control. Much better than any gas stove
With an electric stove I have to trust the number on the knob, but I can tell how hot my gas stove is simply by looking at the flame. I have to agree with the GP, every electric stove I've ever used sucked and sucked hard.
I spoke regarding the mythical Jesus figure who was based on the ancient sun deity Mitra/Mithra/Mithras and sun deities in general.
Where did you get the idea that Jesus was based on a sun God? Star Trek?
Wikipedia seems to disagree with you. "The iconic scenes of Mithras show him being born from a rock, slaughtering a bull, and sharing a banquet with the god Sol (the Sun)."
Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25, that holiday was borrowed from some pagan religion during the middle ages. There is no record of when Christ's birth was.
Most prophets from most religions are said to have ascended to heaven, Muhammed being one of them. Most performed miricles (Muhammed, again, moving a mountain)
Baptism came from Christianity's parent religion, Judism. One can expect many similarities from different religions. For example, this year Christians share a holiday with Bhuddists (at least in Thailand); Easter falls on April 8 this year, when the Thais celebrate Bhudda's birthday and the water festival.
We could detect a rogue asteroid or comet tomorrow that will end life on Earth. On a long enough time line this WILL happen. It's happened before, it'll happen again. When it does, your descendants will be thankful that we took a minute amount of money away from the budget for bombs, sugar water, and pornography, to put those first apes in tin cans and got them to Mars and back.
This is all presupposing you subscribe to the radical notion that a universe with humanity in it is in some way better than one without.
Dude, you're responding to Marvin. His diodes must be acting up again, and you know what he thinks about life.
I don't know why I'm responding to an evangelical libertarian, but
Is is enormously offensive, unfair, and shortsighted to penalize or tax somebody based on their wealth.
Taxes are not penalties. Taxes are the price you pay for roads, bridges, police, firemen, etc. The rich should pay more because they benefit more. Should you pay the same price for a hamburger as for filet mignon? If you're rich your taxes buy the filet mignon, if you're poor they buy dog food.
The poor have little use for the police. The rich have great need of them. If the poor man's house burns down he loses little, including the house, because it belongs to the landlord and he has few possessions to lose. If a rich man's house burns down it costs him millions of dollars. The same goes for almost every other government service.
Fines are not taxes. If you give me a $1000 fine it's going to hurt. Give someone who earns 10 times what I do and it won't -- and the point of a penalty is to make it hurt.
Basing something on wealth has a far more damaging effect on society too. In order to do it, you must obtain information.
If you base it on income the only information you need is the amount of income.
Now you have a whole game of tax loop holes and lying.
Not if you do away with deductions and loopholes.
I believe that the government has absolutely no right to know how much I earn at all, or where I spend it. I would prefer a more passive system based on consumption.
How are they going to know how much you consume if they don't know what you spend? Your rational disconnect here is enormous. I'll agree they have no right to know how much I spend or what I spend it on, but why should I care who knows how much I earn?
would prefer a more passive system based on consumption. That is absolutely fair. If I had a billion dollars and you were to tax me along side somebody that made an average living we would be taxed the same if we lived more or less the same.
That's called a "poll tax" and the rason it's unworkable is spelled out pretty simply in Asimov's novel Forward the Foundation.
If the person was being penalized for simply disobeying the law, the fine would be the same regardless of... how much money they [earn]
If you fine me fifty cents that's no disincentive to repeating whatever action I was fined for, but fifty dollars is. But to someone earing a hundred times what I do, that fifty dollars to him is fifty cents to me -- no disincentive at all. And the whole point of levying fines it to make the person stop whatever dangerous and stupid thing he's being fined for.
The answer is not to penalize those with money more, but to change the foundation of the system itself to remove money from the equation. We can do that with traffic laws.
So what do you propose, jailing someone for speeding? That's also discriminatory. A working man might lose his job over a speeding ticket, while a retired or unemployed man has no job to lose in the first place.
You are simply rationalizing your selfish beliefs.
Slashdot Mirror
I haven't tried Suse in almost a decade, I may give it another shot. Back then I had driver issues with it, but I would imagine that may be a thing of the past. Being slower may be problematic, I guess I 'll see.
That is so. Boot times increased rather than decreased until this century. But it was more like 5-10 seconds on my IBM. But if you had a Commodore or the like with the OS in ROM boot speeds were far faster than the IBM.
It was called CompuServe, and IIRC was $3 per month. But there were a lot of reasons being online didn't take off.
One was technology. 300 baud was the norm, far slower than 28.8, The most powerful PC at the time (I'll get disagreement over this; Amiga for one) was the IBM XT. 8088 processor, 64k of memory, and a humungous ten meg hard drive. Cost was prohibitive, an IBM cost thousands of dollars.
There was little content and no search capabilities.
It was a walled garden.
"Why in the world do you have a computer?" Only us nerds had computers back then.
It was text only, with no hypertext.
I found it to be pretty useless. Later in the decade I was on the BBSes on a used IBM with 28.8, and even then my online presence was mostly sharing software. An email could take days to be delivered, since the BBSes were seldom online 24/7 and few had many connections. I still got most of my software on floppies from shareware stores.
The internet didn't happen because nobody and nothing was ready for it. The internet happened when it was time for it to happen.
It was the 80's, everyone was too busy with hairspray, good music and doing coke to care about the internet.
I saw far more hair spray in the '60s, most music sucked than as badly as now (although thankfully disco had died and there was a lot of good rock and roll). Most music has always sucked. The "90% of everything is crap" has always been true. And coke was always too expensive for most people to do much of; coke was mostly a yuppie thing.
if you like a tablet-style interface for your desktop (or just something a bit different from whatever version of Windows is popular at the time), what's wrong with it?
Well, that's the thing -- I don't want a tablet style interface and don't care if it's anything like Windows or not. I've been using KDE for almost a decade
That's one thing I love about Linux and hate about Windows -- I don't have to relearn a new interface every time it's upgraded. And I never did like Gnome.
I have a Mint installation ISO, I may try it. Not sure what desktop it uses, change for the sake of change is counterproductive. I need a damned good reason to learn a new interface, there are far more interesting things to learn.
I just updated to kubuntu 11.10 a couple of months ago, and am annoyed that it's now almost impossible to highlight more than one item in Dolphin to move to and from the notebook over the network. It's problematic because I'm using that computer as a media center and the keyboard is usually on a shelf.
I wonder if that's fixed? Probably not, but then it's not a Linux or Ubuntu issue, but a KDE issue.
As to the kernel itself, I've never experienced any bugs in it at all (not that there may be some, of course).
That particular episode needs tons of suspension of disbelief. We are descended from the same protomammals as mice and elephants. Bonobos and chimps and us descended from the same species only a few million years ago.
There could be some good SF set a few hundred thousand years in the future where human on the edge of the solar system diverge from us. Hmm, maybe I should write it.
Javascript is by far the most egregious, with flash running a close second.
Only bad, misused javascript. Javascript is simply plain text, and a good programmer doesn't need to use much. Unfortunately, few web sires have good programmers and many don't have any at all, using software HTML writers that may load a whole javascript library when one or two lines of it is all that's actually used.
I do my best to avoid those sites.
even have one of those damned toilets that require five to six flushes to get the job done
Sounds pretty counterproductive.
There was far more bestiality in TNG. A Klingon or Vulcan mating with a human IS bestiality; these aren't different races, they're different species.
And I think Riker got a lot more than Kirk ever did (of course, TNG was on the air over twice as long).
I drive a sedan and it has quite a large blind spot. Almost all fatalities in the backup accidents are small children, who you can't expect to know any better.
I wish I had a backup camera in my car. I may install one myself.
You're interested in the tata's what?? Finish the sentence!
Again visiting Earth Yoda is.
I got a nice Sony Blueray player off amazon for $78. It has netflix, hulu, and all that crap and a USB port on the front.
And comes with XCP and on its next upgrade they take away netflix and hulu, and then store your credit card number in an unencrypted, internet-facing database. What kind of fool would buy a Sony after all the underhanded shit they've pulled on their paying customers in the last ten years?
Especially if I move forward / backward over you a few times to make sure you can't sue me.
I'd rather be sued (I do have insurance, who cares if you sue me?) than spend the rest of my life in prison for murder.
Troubling that they modded you "insightful" rather than the "funny" you were after. Look out, folks, murderers have mod points today!
Are you trying to dissuade people from moving there to reduce competition for yourself, or just trolling?
woooooOOOOOSH!!!
A modern induction stove gives you perfect control. Much better than any gas stove
With an electric stove I have to trust the number on the knob, but I can tell how hot my gas stove is simply by looking at the flame. I have to agree with the GP, every electric stove I've ever used sucked and sucked hard.
I spoke regarding the mythical Jesus figure who was based on the ancient sun deity Mitra/Mithra/Mithras and sun deities in general.
Where did you get the idea that Jesus was based on a sun God? Star Trek?
Wikipedia seems to disagree with you. "The iconic scenes of Mithras show him being born from a rock, slaughtering a bull, and sharing a banquet with the god Sol (the Sun)."
Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25, that holiday was borrowed from some pagan religion during the middle ages. There is no record of when Christ's birth was.
Most prophets from most religions are said to have ascended to heaven, Muhammed being one of them. Most performed miricles (Muhammed, again, moving a mountain)
Baptism came from Christianity's parent religion, Judism. One can expect many similarities from different religions. For example, this year Christians share a holiday with Bhuddists (at least in Thailand); Easter falls on April 8 this year, when the Thais celebrate Bhudda's birthday and the water festival.
I like "zoo" because the protagonist's name is mcgrew, and it was the very first use of the word "nerd."
I would contend that the more extreme elements of the environmental movement are actually hurting the cause way more than helping it.
I certainly can't disagree with that.
A 950 mile trip certainly will benefit from speeding and is quite logical. But most trips are only a couple of miles.
We could detect a rogue asteroid or comet tomorrow that will end life on Earth. On a long enough time line this WILL happen. It's happened before, it'll happen again. When it does, your descendants will be thankful that we took a minute amount of money away from the budget for bombs, sugar water, and pornography, to put those first apes in tin cans and got them to Mars and back.
This is all presupposing you subscribe to the radical notion that a universe with humanity in it is in some way better than one without.
Dude, you're responding to Marvin. His diodes must be acting up again, and you know what he thinks about life.
I don't know why I'm responding to an evangelical libertarian, but
Is is enormously offensive, unfair, and shortsighted to penalize or tax somebody based on their wealth.
Taxes are not penalties. Taxes are the price you pay for roads, bridges, police, firemen, etc. The rich should pay more because they benefit more. Should you pay the same price for a hamburger as for filet mignon? If you're rich your taxes buy the filet mignon, if you're poor they buy dog food.
The poor have little use for the police. The rich have great need of them. If the poor man's house burns down he loses little, including the house, because it belongs to the landlord and he has few possessions to lose. If a rich man's house burns down it costs him millions of dollars. The same goes for almost every other government service.
Fines are not taxes. If you give me a $1000 fine it's going to hurt. Give someone who earns 10 times what I do and it won't -- and the point of a penalty is to make it hurt.
Basing something on wealth has a far more damaging effect on society too. In order to do it, you must obtain information.
If you base it on income the only information you need is the amount of income.
Now you have a whole game of tax loop holes and lying.
Not if you do away with deductions and loopholes.
I believe that the government has absolutely no right to know how much I earn at all, or where I spend it. I would prefer a more passive system based on consumption.
How are they going to know how much you consume if they don't know what you spend? Your rational disconnect here is enormous. I'll agree they have no right to know how much I spend or what I spend it on, but why should I care who knows how much I earn?
would prefer a more passive system based on consumption. That is absolutely fair. If I had a billion dollars and you were to tax me along side somebody that made an average living we would be taxed the same if we lived more or less the same.
That's called a "poll tax" and the rason it's unworkable is spelled out pretty simply in Asimov's novel Forward the Foundation.
If the person was being penalized for simply disobeying the law, the fine would be the same regardless of... how much money they [earn]
If you fine me fifty cents that's no disincentive to repeating whatever action I was fined for, but fifty dollars is. But to someone earing a hundred times what I do, that fifty dollars to him is fifty cents to me -- no disincentive at all. And the whole point of levying fines it to make the person stop whatever dangerous and stupid thing he's being fined for.
The answer is not to penalize those with money more, but to change the foundation of the system itself to remove money from the equation. We can do that with traffic laws.
So what do you propose, jailing someone for speeding? That's also discriminatory. A working man might lose his job over a speeding ticket, while a retired or unemployed man has no job to lose in the first place.
You are simply rationalizing your selfish beliefs.
That's another difference between American English and British English. Here it's "Out. Now. Don't make me kick your ass!"
In the nicer bars it's simply "OK, you're gonna hafta leave."
In the ghetto they don't say anything, they just lift you off the floor and throw you out bodily.
Please don't feed the trolls.
How far and how moch over the limit? Do the math and I doubt you're shaving five minutes off your trip, plus it's costing you more in gasoline.
As Spock would say, "illogical."
Given a major pleasure center is so close to a waste disposal area, I'd still say his engineer needs to work on a better model for v2.0.
That's a feature, not a bug. It's designed to keep your mouth away. Works ok for most people.