True. He should forget about a big company and go look for a job at a tiny operation. He might get hired at a small firm, but without credentials he won't get past HR in any company big enough to have an HR department.
In this economy I'd take a salary (certainty) over the kudos of being an entrepreneur (uncertainty) any day of the week.
With me, in any economy. There's a different skillset used in building a business than in building code. I couldn't sell a hot meal to a starving eskimo, and without sales skills (people skills), your business will fail.
As to the actual topic, well... you need people skills to get a job, too. I was never any good at it (glad I retire in 2 years).
Some time in the mid '80s living in Florida, I found my dream job -- programmer for a game company. I was also self-taught and had talked to the owner on the phone, and it looked like I had the job.
I was working for Disney at the time, so I had short hair and no beard or mustache. I went in for the interview dressed in my best clothing to make a good impression, and all dozen guys there were t-shirt, blue jean wearing longhairs.
You can overdress for a job interview. I didn't get the job, despite the fact that he was impressed with my coding.
It's up to management to out-negotiate the union, just as it's up to the union to out-negotiate management. Don't blame the union because management can't negotiate a good contract.
if people drop dead or get maimed or sick because of bad mixes, too bad, that's their own responsibility and their own fault.
That's crazy. How is any non-chemist supposed to be able to tell if his pill is 50 mg or 100 mg of drug? You think mislabeling drugs should be LEGAL??? If I break into your house and kill you, is that your own fault? If I knowingly sell you food that's poisoned with e-coli, that's your fault?
How old are you, kid? If you're an adult, please see a psychaitrist, because you're talking K-Razy.
It wasn't even reported if his sister in law had anything to say about it, but it wasn't a CWLP pump, a little town five or so miles outside Springfield.
Yeah I got that too. You can never quite tell... some people really are that crazy.
There are always subtile, and often not so subtile clues.
I think the "display a random Bible verse on bootup of the device" is a bit of a giveaway though.
Bingo! Now, moderators -- every single one of these comments responding to the fake Christian's troll are offtopic*, including mine, and should be modded as such. I shouldn't have to wade through this garbage to get to what I came for.
*Except the parent comment, it was indeed funny. It would have been even funnier if he'd included citations for chapter and verse, although he probably didn't because they're accurate but out of context. Also, they're from the Old Testament and the Old covenant. Christianity is about forgiveness; the new covenant.
I can never quite tell whether people sprouting religious rhetoric are serious or trolling...
You could if you were a Christian. He's trolling. He may be trying to be funny, but he's still trolling. The human sacrifice in the New Testament is one pure, sinless man voluntarily paying for the sins of the rest of us.
Here's an idea. Not every goddam company has to be bought / merged with some fucking shark^H^H^H larger company.
That's the result of Reagan's lowering the Capital Gains Tax. You didn't see the orgy of mergers and takeovers before that. Raise the Capital Gains Tax to the same level as normal income tax, and you stop subsidizing these abominations. You also have the effect of discouraging corporate gambling and encouraging long term investment.
When you buy a stock today and sell it tomorrow, nobody benefits except you. Buy a stock and hold it for ten years and everyone benefits.
Right there you pretty much lost the whole argument.
I'd say that right there YOU lost the whole argument, since what was said that he's responding to is "So, you are too stupid to understand limited government involvement" and he turned the phrase on its head pointing to the guy he was responding to. Not seeing that really makes you look stupid. Sorry, that's how I see it.
I like how you just automatically assume the government "owns" the whole radio spectrum to start with.
Just as I "assume" that the government has the right to outlaw bank robbery or regulate the purity of prescription and over the counter drugs. Because the government does in fact own the spectrum.
Companies can self-regulate within a spectrum too you know
Bullshit. "self-regulation" means NO regulation. How about we deregulate the highways and let drivers self-regulate and drive any damned way they please? See how stupid that is? Again, sorry, but stupidity annoys me.
After all, where is the governing worldwide body that dictated all countries use GSM? And yet that is what most countries ended up supporting
"After all, where is the governing worldwide body that dictated all countries use GSM? And yet that is what most governments ended up supporting". There, FTFY.
You can switch carriers and take your phone with you. You can tether without paying extra. Plans are cheaper. Minutes are cheaper. I think we got taken with that free market bs.
I don't know what they're paying in Europe, but I pay a flat fee of $45 per month that includes unlimited talk, unlimited long distance, unlimited texts (to anybody), free roaming, no charge for minutes, unlimited internet (and yes, I can watch YouTube videos) and unlimited email. The free market seems to be working for me, albeit slowly; there are several newer companies offering similar plans. I do wish I could tether without breaking the ToS, though.
Ten years ago my bill was more than twice that, but I was going with companies like Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T (Sprint bought out the company I'm using now, but retained the unlimited plans for it).
And i find it hard to believe that when they were filming their latest commercial they didn't notice what it actually sounds like when they're singing "walking in a 4g wonderland."
There's a sex toy shop here in Springfield with the jingle that goes "Pricilla's -- Where fun and fantasy meet." But... maybe they're singing "We're fun and fantasy meat"? Probably intentional, and I think the T-Mobile commercial's double entendre is as well.
The supercommittee failed to resolve the budget dispute because BOTH parties are completely unwilling to compromise
Where are you getting your info? I'd like to read it, because from what I've seen, the Republicans are unwilling to end the temporary tax cuts for the rich, more than willing to end the temporary payroll tax cuts for the middle class, and the Democrats are indeed willing and even eager to cut spending.
When you are FLAT FUCKING BROKE, you STOP (or at LEAST seriously REDUCE ) spending, and since none of us Joe_Six_Packs have a printing press for more money, thats how we dig ourselves out of a hole
If Joe Sixpack is flat broke, first he reduces spending, and if that isn't sufficient he GETS A SECOND JOB -- in short, increases his revenue.
The tax cuts on the rich were enacted for the express purpose of stimulating the economy. If cutting taxes on the rich would in fact stimulate the economy it would have been a good move because in a better economy the government collects more revenues. But of course it didn't work; an employer isn't going to hire new workers or increase production capacity if he can't sell what he's already producing. Tax cuts on the middle class do, because they have the effect of the middle class spending money and putting pressure on manufacturers to increase production.
It's the Republicans' plan (or rather, lack of one) that will make the current situation worse. The tax cuts didn't work, get rid of them. And yes, reduce spending -- but not on Social Security or Medicare, because we the middle class have been paying taxes that were supposed to go to those programs only, but have been "borrowed from" to put in the revenue coffers to make it look like we're less broke than we really are.
What "Pravda" will never tell you
Shit, I'm wasting my time responding to a facist cokehead.
However, I can fully admit that if it came down to it, I would kill another human being without a seconds thought if it was required to protect me, my friends, or my family... I am going to survive.
No you won't. I would kill to protect my family and perhaps my friends, but I would not kill to protect my own life. Everyone has to die, not everyone has to kill.
Sadly, I think we are heading towards justifiable violence as the only means to take back control of our countries and our lives.
Sadly, I agree. I just hope I'm dead before the violence starts.
Hanlon's Razor (attributed to Heinlein). However, Never attribute to stupidity that which can be attributed to greedy self-interest. Somebody sold the water company a new pump, and the old one was fairly new.
Now, if the pump was covered under warrantee, Heinlein comes into play.
I don't know why I'm responding to someone sitting at -1, but
The problem is that unions make it very difficult to fire people that really deserve firing.
That is a completely false statement. If you're in a union, that unon has signed a contract with your employer spelling out what is and isn't a punishable offense, and which offenses are and aren't punishable by firing. If a union member gets caught stealing from the employer or smoking crack in the rest room, he's going to fired, with the union's blessing to boot.
If they try to fire you because they just don't like you, they're shit out of luck, unlike a non-union job, which is why the right wing hates unions.
If you're merely ignorant I hope I've educated you, and if you're merely trolling I hope you'll stop it. It looks like you're truly ignorant from the whole of your comment. Turn that AM radio off and try to get your news from a more reliable source than facists on the radio like Limbaugh.
Different attack; this was in a little town a few miles outside Illinois' capital city, the one with the three letter password was in Texas (go figure).
While I don't think that threats like these are nonexistent, they are still extremely overblown, and the media jumps on them at a moment's notice.
That's the media for you. If a system or systems were attacked on a daily basis, you wouldn't hear a peep out of the media. Dog Bites Man isn't news, Man Bites Dog is. Airline crashes are covered so often by the media because they're rare, not because they're common.
I think what he meant was it was the first instance of cyber-hacking (is that phrase redundant?) against a SCADA system. Besides, that's the exact wording the media is using.
I live in Springfield, and the media reports are pretty contradictory. The reports in the last few days were that the company that designed the system had evidence of a successful hack and they were worried that the design company hack would lead the attackers to information that would let them in the system.
Two nights ago the local TV news (WICS 20) reported that they had uncovered evidence in the SCADA logs that indicated that they were penetrated, now they say otherwise.
All over a burned out pump. Nobody got hurt, no services were interrupted.
News reports are also saying it's in Springfield; it isn't. It's a water district in two tiny towns a few miles away. Here's a map.
They later produced an update of WP 7 that was more stable and ran on NT 3.51/4.0 but the only way to get that was to order a new CD. No downloadable update patches for you!
To be fair, there were very few people on the internet then.
To this day there is still an option to turn off the "enhanced" open/save dialog because it is buggy and crashes under odd environments - especially under Wine.
Since it wasn't designed to run on Linux under Wine, you really can't blame Novell for that one. That's solely Wine's fault.
Your problem is, and I have this information directly from people who participated in this very same activity in the 1960s, is that the unwise, reactionary, direction-less types, as well as those looking to party, do drugs, and hook-up with the opposite sex, are 99% of your protest numbers.
Once again my dad's wisdom shines: "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see." I was there, on campus at SIU (although I was still in high school), and I can assure you that wasn't the case at all. Whoever told you that falsehood (that they probably actually believed) were most likely in the 1% who are "looking to party, do drugs, and hook-up with the opposite sex."
A frat boy will tell you that everybody in college is in a fraternity, and they're all binge drinking druggies, and the only reason anybody goes to college is because it's a four year long party, when the truth is they're there for an education -- at least most of them.
And who owns the TV and radio stations and newspapers and magazines? WALL STREET. It's far more than "making a story out of it", it's false propaganda at its ugliest.
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Watch Opera? When you have no job, looking for work IS your job and you should spend at least 8 hours a day doing it.
True. He should forget about a big company and go look for a job at a tiny operation. He might get hired at a small firm, but without credentials he won't get past HR in any company big enough to have an HR department.
In this economy I'd take a salary (certainty) over the kudos of being an entrepreneur (uncertainty) any day of the week.
With me, in any economy. There's a different skillset used in building a business than in building code. I couldn't sell a hot meal to a starving eskimo, and without sales skills (people skills), your business will fail.
As to the actual topic, well... you need people skills to get a job, too. I was never any good at it (glad I retire in 2 years).
Some time in the mid '80s living in Florida, I found my dream job -- programmer for a game company. I was also self-taught and had talked to the owner on the phone, and it looked like I had the job.
I was working for Disney at the time, so I had short hair and no beard or mustache. I went in for the interview dressed in my best clothing to make a good impression, and all dozen guys there were t-shirt, blue jean wearing longhairs.
You can overdress for a job interview. I didn't get the job, despite the fact that he was impressed with my coding.
It's up to management to out-negotiate the union, just as it's up to the union to out-negotiate management. Don't blame the union because management can't negotiate a good contract.
if people drop dead or get maimed or sick because of bad mixes, too bad, that's their own responsibility and their own fault.
That's crazy. How is any non-chemist supposed to be able to tell if his pill is 50 mg or 100 mg of drug? You think mislabeling drugs should be LEGAL??? If I break into your house and kill you, is that your own fault? If I knowingly sell you food that's poisoned with e-coli, that's your fault?
How old are you, kid? If you're an adult, please see a psychaitrist, because you're talking K-Razy.
It wasn't even reported if his sister in law had anything to say about it, but it wasn't a CWLP pump, a little town five or so miles outside Springfield.
Explain the "voluntarily" bit again?
Matthew 17:20.
Yeah I got that too. You can never quite tell... some people really are that crazy.
There are always subtile, and often not so subtile clues.
I think the "display a random Bible verse on bootup of the device" is a bit of a giveaway though.
Bingo! Now, moderators -- every single one of these comments responding to the fake Christian's troll are offtopic*, including mine, and should be modded as such. I shouldn't have to wade through this garbage to get to what I came for.
*Except the parent comment, it was indeed funny. It would have been even funnier if he'd included citations for chapter and verse, although he probably didn't because they're accurate but out of context. Also, they're from the Old Testament and the Old covenant. Christianity is about forgiveness; the new covenant.
I can never quite tell whether people sprouting religious rhetoric are serious or trolling...
You could if you were a Christian. He's trolling. He may be trying to be funny, but he's still trolling. The human sacrifice in the New Testament is one pure, sinless man voluntarily paying for the sins of the rest of us.
Here's an idea. Not every goddam company has to be bought / merged with some fucking shark^H^H^H larger company.
That's the result of Reagan's lowering the Capital Gains Tax. You didn't see the orgy of mergers and takeovers before that. Raise the Capital Gains Tax to the same level as normal income tax, and you stop subsidizing these abominations. You also have the effect of discouraging corporate gambling and encouraging long term investment.
When you buy a stock today and sell it tomorrow, nobody benefits except you. Buy a stock and hold it for ten years and everyone benefits.
Right there you pretty much lost the whole argument.
I'd say that right there YOU lost the whole argument, since what was said that he's responding to is "So, you are too stupid to understand limited government involvement" and he turned the phrase on its head pointing to the guy he was responding to. Not seeing that really makes you look stupid. Sorry, that's how I see it.
I like how you just automatically assume the government "owns" the whole radio spectrum to start with.
Just as I "assume" that the government has the right to outlaw bank robbery or regulate the purity of prescription and over the counter drugs. Because the government does in fact own the spectrum.
Companies can self-regulate within a spectrum too you know
Bullshit. "self-regulation" means NO regulation. How about we deregulate the highways and let drivers self-regulate and drive any damned way they please? See how stupid that is? Again, sorry, but stupidity annoys me.
After all, where is the governing worldwide body that dictated all countries use GSM? And yet that is what most countries ended up supporting
"After all, where is the governing worldwide body that dictated all countries use GSM? And yet that is what most governments ended up supporting". There, FTFY.
You can switch carriers and take your phone with you. You can tether without paying extra. Plans are cheaper. Minutes are cheaper. I think we got taken with that free market bs.
I don't know what they're paying in Europe, but I pay a flat fee of $45 per month that includes unlimited talk, unlimited long distance, unlimited texts (to anybody), free roaming, no charge for minutes, unlimited internet (and yes, I can watch YouTube videos) and unlimited email. The free market seems to be working for me, albeit slowly; there are several newer companies offering similar plans. I do wish I could tether without breaking the ToS, though.
Ten years ago my bill was more than twice that, but I was going with companies like Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T (Sprint bought out the company I'm using now, but retained the unlimited plans for it).
And i find it hard to believe that when they were filming their latest commercial they didn't notice what it actually sounds like when they're singing "walking in a 4g wonderland."
There's a sex toy shop here in Springfield with the jingle that goes "Pricilla's -- Where fun and fantasy meet." But... maybe they're singing "We're fun and fantasy meat"? Probably intentional, and I think the T-Mobile commercial's double entendre is as well.
The supercommittee failed to resolve the budget dispute because BOTH parties are completely unwilling to compromise
Where are you getting your info? I'd like to read it, because from what I've seen, the Republicans are unwilling to end the temporary tax cuts for the rich, more than willing to end the temporary payroll tax cuts for the middle class, and the Democrats are indeed willing and even eager to cut spending.
When you are FLAT FUCKING BROKE, you STOP (or at LEAST seriously REDUCE ) spending, and since none of us Joe_Six_Packs have a printing press for more money, thats how we dig ourselves out of a hole
If Joe Sixpack is flat broke, first he reduces spending, and if that isn't sufficient he GETS A SECOND JOB -- in short, increases his revenue.
The tax cuts on the rich were enacted for the express purpose of stimulating the economy. If cutting taxes on the rich would in fact stimulate the economy it would have been a good move because in a better economy the government collects more revenues. But of course it didn't work; an employer isn't going to hire new workers or increase production capacity if he can't sell what he's already producing. Tax cuts on the middle class do, because they have the effect of the middle class spending money and putting pressure on manufacturers to increase production.
It's the Republicans' plan (or rather, lack of one) that will make the current situation worse. The tax cuts didn't work, get rid of them. And yes, reduce spending -- but not on Social Security or Medicare, because we the middle class have been paying taxes that were supposed to go to those programs only, but have been "borrowed from" to put in the revenue coffers to make it look like we're less broke than we really are.
What "Pravda" will never tell you
Shit, I'm wasting my time responding to a facist cokehead.
However, I can fully admit that if it came down to it, I would kill another human being without a seconds thought if it was required to protect me, my friends, or my family... I am going to survive.
No you won't. I would kill to protect my family and perhaps my friends, but I would not kill to protect my own life. Everyone has to die, not everyone has to kill.
Sadly, I think we are heading towards justifiable violence as the only means to take back control of our countries and our lives.
Sadly, I agree. I just hope I'm dead before the violence starts.
It does if you're a 1%er, one of their media stooges, or dolts who believe that nonsense.
Hanlon's Razor (attributed to Heinlein). However, Never attribute to stupidity that which can be attributed to greedy self-interest. Somebody sold the water company a new pump, and the old one was fairly new.
Now, if the pump was covered under warrantee, Heinlein comes into play.
I don't know why I'm responding to someone sitting at -1, but
The problem is that unions make it very difficult to fire people that really deserve firing.
That is a completely false statement. If you're in a union, that unon has signed a contract with your employer spelling out what is and isn't a punishable offense, and which offenses are and aren't punishable by firing. If a union member gets caught stealing from the employer or smoking crack in the rest room, he's going to fired, with the union's blessing to boot.
If they try to fire you because they just don't like you, they're shit out of luck, unlike a non-union job, which is why the right wing hates unions.
If you're merely ignorant I hope I've educated you, and if you're merely trolling I hope you'll stop it. It looks like you're truly ignorant from the whole of your comment. Turn that AM radio off and try to get your news from a more reliable source than facists on the radio like Limbaugh.
Different attack; this was in a little town a few miles outside Illinois' capital city, the one with the three letter password was in Texas (go figure).
While I don't think that threats like these are nonexistent, they are still extremely overblown, and the media jumps on them at a moment's notice.
That's the media for you. If a system or systems were attacked on a daily basis, you wouldn't hear a peep out of the media. Dog Bites Man isn't news, Man Bites Dog is. Airline crashes are covered so often by the media because they're rare, not because they're common.
Eh, it was Rority. Drunk and stoned, as usual.
I think what he meant was it was the first instance of cyber-hacking (is that phrase redundant?) against a SCADA system. Besides, that's the exact wording the media is using.
I live in Springfield, and the media reports are pretty contradictory. The reports in the last few days were that the company that designed the system had evidence of a successful hack and they were worried that the design company hack would lead the attackers to information that would let them in the system.
Two nights ago the local TV news (WICS 20) reported that they had uncovered evidence in the SCADA logs that indicated that they were penetrated, now they say otherwise.
All over a burned out pump. Nobody got hurt, no services were interrupted.
News reports are also saying it's in Springfield; it isn't. It's a water district in two tiny towns a few miles away. Here's a map.
They later produced an update of WP 7 that was more stable and ran on NT 3.51/4.0 but the only way to get that was to order a new CD. No downloadable update patches for you!
To be fair, there were very few people on the internet then.
To this day there is still an option to turn off the "enhanced" open/save dialog because it is buggy and crashes under odd environments - especially under Wine.
Since it wasn't designed to run on Linux under Wine, you really can't blame Novell for that one. That's solely Wine's fault.
Your problem is, and I have this information directly from people who participated in this very same activity in the 1960s, is that the unwise, reactionary, direction-less types, as well as those looking to party, do drugs, and hook-up with the opposite sex, are 99% of your protest numbers.
Once again my dad's wisdom shines: "Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see." I was there, on campus at SIU (although I was still in high school), and I can assure you that wasn't the case at all. Whoever told you that falsehood (that they probably actually believed) were most likely in the 1% who are "looking to party, do drugs, and hook-up with the opposite sex."
A frat boy will tell you that everybody in college is in a fraternity, and they're all binge drinking druggies, and the only reason anybody goes to college is because it's a four year long party, when the truth is they're there for an education -- at least most of them.
And who owns the TV and radio stations and newspapers and magazines? WALL STREET. It's far more than "making a story out of it", it's false propaganda at its ugliest.