How about training those people to do worthwhile jobs that will lift them from poverty? I think it's terrible that there are completely illiterate people in the US; I've known a couple of them.
People have been losing jobs to robots for decades, and to technology for centuries. If you're worried about lost jobs, look at "hedge fund managers" (corporate pirates) who buy a business, drain its capital, fire its workers and shut it down.
Living in the middle of Illinois there's a lot of farming news and farm shows around here, and you see an awful ot of impressive tech, and even science. They have self-driving combines and harvesters that use GPS, cell phone apps very useful to them (some control machinery), chemical testing of the spoil and plants available... you have to know a lot to farm these days.
I know someone's going to complain "BUT JOBS!!!" but the jobs the tech in TFA are jobs are jobs only the most desperate want. Agriculture has been constantly replacing jobs with technology for centuries. It takes fewer and fewr to feed more and more.
Someone's going to bring up GM, GM isn't used much around here, most seed is hybrid -- but the biochemists and agronomists have DNA study of the plants they breed.
There's a TV show that comes on here on Sunday morning at 5:30 AM and it's the only OTA show that's not an infomercial, and It's pretty interesting. Here's their website. I'm not a farmer but it is pretty interesting.
I wouldn't consider potted plants "Big Agriculture." That's soybeans, corn, and wheat.
Heck, in all honesty, I'd probably drift over to a NetFlix-style rental system if such existed. Pay, say $1 or so to rent a book for a month or so.
Wow, you kids are sure willing to part with your hard-earned cash for shit that used to be free. TV shows, bottled water, books... you can "rent" a book from the public library for free. If I'd had to pay for all the books I've read in my life it would take more money than I've ever earned.
The flawed physical analogy is that electronic "goods" cost nothing to duplicate. If I have paid for the hardcover and they want $3 for the ebook, fuck 'em, I'll go to TPB for the ecopy because I already paid for the damned content when I bought the hardcover.
I'm really sick of the greed these days. Charging extra for an e version when I've paid for it already is just plain wrong. Those people must have no shame or morals at all.
There is one site I visit that has occasional stories paywalled, the local paper here. Most info isn't likely elsewhere and the paywalls are trivial to overcome. But I generally avoid them. I'm thinking about a simple HOSTS file to send DNS requests to those sites to the bit bucket.
If I had mod points you'd get one. It isn't hard for us in the middle class to be philanthropists, either. I wonder how much the OP has contributed to ease people's suffering?
First, don't call them "old people". Second, don't call "them" anything as a group.
Nah, we geezers aren't politically correct, most of us think that PC crap is bullshit. I'm old, you don't have to dance around the fact. Now, if you're talking about someone in their 40s, they're not old. You're mischaracterizing them. You're old when you get a discounted bus pass.
It pisses me off when they want ID for beer. I say "do I get a senior discount?" They say "no" and I inform them I'll show ID if a cop pulls me over or for a discount; there's no way I look younger than 21 and I refuse to give stupidly offensive people my money.
Third, use correct written English. No made up words, strange spelling, or text speak.
Indeed, they make one look incompetently uneducated.
How about having some respect for the knowledge which may be gathered by your elderly counterparts?
Youth have always been indestructible and all-knowing, in their own minds at least. All generations when young. I was in the Air Force before I started college in 1976, so I was ten years older than most of the students by my Junior year.
One class, I don't remember the subject of the class but I do remember an insolent eighteen year old punk saying the instructor, who held a Master's degree and was about 40, was ignorant.
"Kid," the instructor said, "I've forgotten more than you've ever learned."
The majority of Americans and probably even American scientists believe in a supernatural all powerful entity for which there is no evidence at all.
2.3 of the world's population and over half of all scientists.
Evidence is what convinces me.
There is no evidence I was in possession of marijuana -- It's gone. There is no evidence Jimmy Hoffa is dead, but I'm pretty sure he is. There is no evidence for extraterrestrial life, but I think there probably is.
Thanks for the info, but I don't want paywalled sites to get my eyeballs. The Illinois Times manages to give away paper copies as well as their online version and still make money, why can't the Times? They certainly have a much larger readership.
I voted Green Party. The Libbies want corporations to have the liberty to foul the water and air. I grew up two miles from a Monsanto plant and saw the difference after the Clean Air Act. I don't want to go back to those times. The Greenies want to legalize drugs AND keep environmental protections.
Not that I think the War on Drugs (TM) is any less stupid and wasteful than the War on Terrism (TM), but at least we see that we don't need a parallel, secret justice [sic] system to "fight" it.
Both are drains on the treasury and both are harmful to society. The "war" on terror castrates the constitution, and the drug laws foster violent crime. Look at Chicago in the 1920s and Chicago today. Different illegal drug, same outcomes.
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As "spoil" is a word te correction was warranted. It's ok, you fixed it with your grocer's apostrophe.
How about training those people to do worthwhile jobs that will lift them from poverty? I think it's terrible that there are completely illiterate people in the US; I've known a couple of them.
People have been losing jobs to robots for decades, and to technology for centuries. If you're worried about lost jobs, look at "hedge fund managers" (corporate pirates) who buy a business, drain its capital, fire its workers and shut it down.
Typo: Soil testing, not spoil testing. Fat fingers and I had a few beers.
Living in the middle of Illinois there's a lot of farming news and farm shows around here, and you see an awful ot of impressive tech, and even science. They have self-driving combines and harvesters that use GPS, cell phone apps very useful to them (some control machinery), chemical testing of the spoil and plants available... you have to know a lot to farm these days.
I know someone's going to complain "BUT JOBS!!!" but the jobs the tech in TFA are jobs are jobs only the most desperate want. Agriculture has been constantly replacing jobs with technology for centuries. It takes fewer and fewr to feed more and more.
Someone's going to bring up GM, GM isn't used much around here, most seed is hybrid -- but the biochemists and agronomists have DNA study of the plants they breed.
There's a TV show that comes on here on Sunday morning at 5:30 AM and it's the only OTA show that's not an infomercial, and It's pretty interesting. Here's their website. I'm not a farmer but it is pretty interesting.
I wouldn't consider potted plants "Big Agriculture." That's soybeans, corn, and wheat.
Heck, in all honesty, I'd probably drift over to a NetFlix-style rental system if such existed. Pay, say $1 or so to rent a book for a month or so.
Wow, you kids are sure willing to part with your hard-earned cash for shit that used to be free. TV shows, bottled water, books... you can "rent" a book from the public library for free. If I'd had to pay for all the books I've read in my life it would take more money than I've ever earned.
If I've bought a hardcopy I've paid my share of fixed costs.
The flawed physical analogy is that electronic "goods" cost nothing to duplicate. If I have paid for the hardcover and they want $3 for the ebook, fuck 'em, I'll go to TPB for the ecopy because I already paid for the damned content when I bought the hardcover.
I'm really sick of the greed these days. Charging extra for an e version when I've paid for it already is just plain wrong. Those people must have no shame or morals at all.
And they have the gall to call pirates "thieves".
There is one site I visit that has occasional stories paywalled, the local paper here. Most info isn't likely elsewhere and the paywalls are trivial to overcome. But I generally avoid them. I'm thinking about a simple HOSTS file to send DNS requests to those sites to the bit bucket.
The incompetently educated are incompetently uneducated, since if you were educated by incompetents, you're uneducated.
In before 1000 Libertarians explaining that nobody works unless they're paid money, because nothing is important except accumulation of material tat.
Those aren't libertarians, they're money worshipers. And look at comments above mine to see how "Libertarians" worship money.
If I had mod points you'd get one. It isn't hard for us in the middle class to be philanthropists, either. I wonder how much the OP has contributed to ease people's suffering?
You should have made it sarcastically humorous.
"Our enemies trying to infiltrate our spy agencies?? I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you!!!"
Also, I've noticed that "work ethic" is a shibboleth of religious wackos.
Indeed, and the religion that "work ethic" comes from is the worship of money.
First, don't call them "old people". Second, don't call "them" anything as a group.
Nah, we geezers aren't politically correct, most of us think that PC crap is bullshit. I'm old, you don't have to dance around the fact. Now, if you're talking about someone in their 40s, they're not old. You're mischaracterizing them. You're old when you get a discounted bus pass.
It pisses me off when they want ID for beer. I say "do I get a senior discount?" They say "no" and I inform them I'll show ID if a cop pulls me over or for a discount; there's no way I look younger than 21 and I refuse to give stupidly offensive people my money.
Third, use correct written English. No made up words, strange spelling, or text speak.
Indeed, they make one look incompetently uneducated.
How about having some respect for the knowledge which may be gathered by your elderly counterparts?
Youth have always been indestructible and all-knowing, in their own minds at least. All generations when young. I was in the Air Force before I started college in 1976, so I was ten years older than most of the students by my Junior year.
One class, I don't remember the subject of the class but I do remember an insolent eighteen year old punk saying the instructor, who held a Master's degree and was about 40, was ignorant.
"Kid," the instructor said, "I've forgotten more than you've ever learned."
I'm not interested in getting past an NYT paywall when there are non-offensive sources of the same information.
The majority of Americans and probably even American scientists believe in a supernatural all powerful entity for which there is no evidence at all.
2.3 of the world's population and over half of all scientists.
Evidence is what convinces me.
There is no evidence I was in possession of marijuana -- It's gone. There is no evidence Jimmy Hoffa is dead, but I'm pretty sure he is. There is no evidence for extraterrestrial life, but I think there probably is.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
well Ive written... Can I have a Hugo?
Not with writing like that. You made two mistakes in the first two words, any story you wrote would not be the least bit readable.
But... where is Asimov-like Sci fi? Deep, intelectual, but not "geek".
Not geek, nerd. Asimov held a PhD in biochemistry and did cancer research at Boston University. It shows in his works.
Thanks for the info, but I don't want paywalled sites to get my eyeballs. The Illinois Times manages to give away paper copies as well as their online version and still make money, why can't the Times? They certainly have a much larger readership.
Ron Paul was a libertarian in the party that started the war on drugs (Reagan)
Nixon came up with the phrase, although it actually started under a Democrat, young fellow.
I voted Green Party. The Libbies want corporations to have the liberty to foul the water and air. I grew up two miles from a Monsanto plant and saw the difference after the Clean Air Act. I don't want to go back to those times. The Greenies want to legalize drugs AND keep environmental protections.
Not that I think the War on Drugs (TM) is any less stupid and wasteful than the War on Terrism (TM), but at least we see that we don't need a parallel, secret justice [sic] system to "fight" it.
Both are drains on the treasury and both are harmful to society. The "war" on terror castrates the constitution, and the drug laws foster violent crime. Look at Chicago in the 1920s and Chicago today. Different illegal drug, same outcomes.
The article is behind a god damned paywall. This one isn't. Google lists many, many sources.
Does Jah-Wren Ryel work for the Times and is trying to increase subscription numbers? A link to a paywall is no citation whatever.
Oh, and according to what I read, these aren't warrentless searches.