It's their workers who get exploited, not their customers. Look at this incident. The company was repeatedly fined for safety violations, and those broken laws resulted in a dozen dead miners. Someone should have gone to prison for negligent homicide.
That's the exploitation he's referring to. These sociopaths don't care who they kill or how badly they foul the atmosphere (Monsanto before the EPA). They'll destroy the economy and impoverish huge swaths of the population for gain (Banks the last decade).
Indeed. This woman can't possible be a parent. She's certainly never battled a public school system to try to get a decent education for her kids. If I could have afforded to send my kids to private school I would have done so in a heartbeat.
Look at some of your fellow slashdotters, some of these guys seem barely literate, not knowing there from they're and their, not realizing that loose and lose are both verbs that mean completely different things, using greengrocers' apostrophes, etc (although many of these folks may not be native speakers). At least in the US, the public schools are abysmal.
Would I be for outlawing private schools? Of course. There should be a level playing field. It's terrible that our poorest children get the poorest educations, yet the rich who can afford a decent education sneer that they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It just isn't possible.
Well modded! Lignin or lignen is a complex chemical compound most commonly derived from wood, and an integral part of the secondary cell walls of plants[1] and some algae.[2] The term was introduced in 1819 by de Candolle and is derived from the Latin word lignum,[3] meaning wood. It is one of the most abundant organic polymers on Earth, exceeded only by cellulose, employing 30% of non-fossil organic carbon,[4] and constituting from a quarter to a third of the dry mass of wood.
I would love it if the US had a rule along the lines of "You have first choice to this spectrum, but if you aren't servicing the area then anyone can be granted a license for that locale. If you want to use that frequency there, then you have 6 months to set up towers."
I wish I had mod points. A useless +1 for you since I don't.
Have you ever HAD a Moosehead? It's like Dos Equis but less drinkable. I'm sure Canada has some fine beers, but Moosehead isn't one of them. Canadians, what do you guys drink up there?
The problem with this concept is exactly what you pointed to but for a different reason. Nobody will obey a fucking robot's orders! As someone said above, cameras will do just as well. Can these robots use tasers or shoot people with firearms? Many "rent a cops" are off-duty police officers earning a little beer money.
Unintentionally insightful. They are indeed setting their users free... but I think it was Snowden that loosed us. Maybe Snowden loosed their courage, or maybe it was a freaked out "Oh, shit, we gotta do somethin'!"
Unions care about union members insofar as that is where the union's power lies.
Can the propaganda.The union members ARE the union.
Unions are no longer worker organizations, and haven't for some time.
Utter bullshit. I suspect that the company you worked for you were in management. Read my previous comment. Everything the union does is voted on by the union members.
They are political organizations.
Of course they are, just as management is. They lobby for laws benefiting unions and more importantly, the union membership just as management lobbies for weaker worker protections.
Yes, the contribute to campaigns of candidates friendly to unions and the workers who ARE the unions. They campaign against union-hostile and worker-hostile politicians.
My union has a voluntary fund for political purposes rather than using dues for that purpose (YMMV). I gladly have $8 deducted from my monthly salary so my union can lobby for candidates who want to make my life as a worker better, rather than candidates who would write laws that would hold me down.
Unions do not negotiate. The coerce. Look at what happened with Hostess. They refused to negotiate in any meaningful way and the company shut down.
Ah, I see, you read FOX and nothing else. Try Wikipedia -- mismanagement killed Hostess, not the union. After they'd spent money like a drunken congresscritter they insisted on all sorts of "concessions" like slashing wages to make up for their poor management.
Most of whatâ(TM)s written about Hostessâ(TM)s shuttering is partisan puffing that wants to blame everything on the union, or on the hedge funds, or on management. Itâ(TM)s a testament to how politically divided our writer class is, but it is not accurate. There is no way to look at the saga without concluding that, much like an instinct-less teen in a horror film, the company and its employees deserved the end they got due to roundly-shared stupidity. Hostessâ(TM)s demise collects the worst elements in modern business into one shrink-wrapped sponge cake: union short-sightedness, managerial ineptitude and avarice, and badly spent millions.
Unions give you a lot of things, yes. But they do not create these things: they take them from other people.
Yes, they take them from the company.
They take and take and take until there is nothing left, to the point where it doesn't matter, because you no longer have a job.
Then explain why my dad was in the IBEW for 40 years and retired with a nice, fat pension and why all of the electric companies he'd worked for are all still generating and delivering power? Explain why American unionized automakers compete successfully with nonunion automakers? Explain why Disney is still in business, when they've been union since the 1940s? Face it, the only time you're going to hear about a union is when it's threatening a strike or its company goes out of business.
For the union bosses to stay in power (which gives them money(ever meet a poor union boss?)
No, and I've never heard of a poor union member, either. Meanwhile McDonald's and WalMart workers have food stamps and medical cards. Ever meet a poor board member or CEO?
they have to keep giving their members more and more, which in turn builds the dependency of the members.
That's what they're there for! Yes, I'm dependent on my union, I don't WANT to be on food stamps.
BTW, I retire with a pension next year. Do you think that would happen without a union? Damned right I'm dependent. With only social security I'd be poor as a churchmouse.
My union works for ME. I'm damned glad I have it. And I'm REALLY going to enjoy that ret
Well, there's plenty of evidence that Marijuana has effects on response time (like most depressants).
Since marijuana is not a depressant (yes, it can make you sleepy but so can benadryl, which is also not a depressant), you're going to have to give a citation re the for "effects on response time" for me to lend your statements any credence.
For most of us who've smoked pot, we know it definitely affects your faculties to the point where you cant drive safely
If you're too stoned to drive, by the time you get to the car you'll forget why you were getting in the damned thing.
still have the problems with fine motor control (keeping the wheel straight) as well as reduced response speed and impaired perception.
Never have I been so stoned I couldn't keep the wheel straight and never noticed reduced response time, but I'll take the word of a reputable study if you cite it. As to perception, that's never caused a problem for me walking, why should it driving? Note how people walk while talking on a cell phone, I've seen them walk blindly into telephone poles. I've had to avoid them to keep them from walking straight (well, staggering crookedly like people do while walking with cell phones).
I do agree it should be treated like cigarettes or alcohol -- completely legal for adults, harsh penalties to adults who supply it to minors.
The is the worst thing about today's marijuana laws: it's easier for a fifteen year old to buy pot than it is for a forty year old. The fifteen year old is guranteed to not be a narc, unlike the forty year old.
Maybe this is why? Is Marijuana a Safe Drug? Teenage Brain at Risk for Drug Abuse
I guess we should outlaw alcohol for adult use as well, then. Nobody is suggesting that it should be legal to supply alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, or any other mind-altering substance to minors. As it is now, it's easier for a minor to get pot than for an adult.
Your argument is disingenuous and, if I may say so, fucking stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself for such a disingenuous argument. The mods shoud be ashamed for taking you past +1.
This is fine, except for the fact that many people would pay for it. But free is cheaper.
Free is advertising. Nobody's going to buy your album or book if they've never heard of it. If your premise "nobody will pay when they can get free" were true, libraries would have killed publishing centuries ago.
Also, the RIAA cannot prosecute someone for pirating indie work.
No, but they get their message across. The message is "downloading music is wrong and illegal". THAT is why they fight piracy, they have no need to prosecute indie fans. Any alleged downloader will do.
Because I'm smart enough to realize that a Tesla and a mansion with a swimming pool will not make me any happier than I am now. My needs and most wants are provided for, why should I waste my time and effort chasing dollars when I can be doing what I enjoy?
Donald Trump isn't smart enough to see how fucking stupid that comb-over looks.
PS: Money does indeed grow on trees. Ask any orchard owner.
Saying communism and capitalism are "atheistic religions" is a comment so far off the mark I don't even know where to begin.
In most Communist countries religion was specifically forbidden. Think China and Falun Gung, Stalin and Christianity.
Capitalism worships the almighty dollar. Its precepts aren't exactly atheist, since the dollar is an object of worship, but it is in complete opposal to Christianity. Capitalist: "NO NEW TAXES!" Christ: "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's". Capitalist: "There's no such thing as a free lunch." Christ: "Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin". Capitalist: "Loose the lawyers on them, we're getting a cut." Christ: "And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers." Capitalist: Money money money MONEY!!!" Christ: "Blessed are the poor."
You think unions actually care about the employees, or even care about fairness?
The unions care about the union members because that's what they exist to do, and the union members are all employees. They're there to make sure that employees are treated fairly by management. They're there to get better pay, benefits, and working conditions for the employees.
Positions from shop steward on up are voted on democratically, as are contracts and strikes.
I would much rather trust the CEO of a company who only cares about their company than the union boss who only cares about his union.
There is strength in numbers. His union is YOU. Get it through your brainwashed head, your dues will far more than pay for themselves.
Never agreed that violent video games make a person more violent. I've been playing FPS since I was a child with my first being Wolfenstein 3D right when it came out. I also listen to heavy metal.
The bit about heavy metal is hilarious to me. It hearkens back to the PMRC (Al Gore's wife) and Twisted Sister, grilling the guy from the band about the song "Under the Blade". OOOH, SPOOKY right? The song is about having surgery.
A grieving father sued Ozzie Ozbourne for for his son's suicide because one of the songs was named "suicide solution." It was an anti-drinking song.
And then there's Iron Maiden's getting flak from right wing nuts about "two minutes to midnight", which is an anti-abortion song!
There are the Christian groups denouncing Black Sabbath for After Forever ("would you like to see the pope on the end of a rope?") which was actually PRO-CHRISTIAN! The morons can can be excused for that one, of course, since it came right after Sweetleaf, a pro-marijuana song.
But the funniest thing of all was how the evangelists got all up in arms over Pat Boone putting out a heavy metal album, when if you listen to half of the metal out there, the lyrics could be church hymns.
The outcry against heavy metal was even more stupid than the outcry against video games.
I'm not ok with plagiarism or commercial piracy, but I'm fine with file sharing. And I say that as someone who just registered copyright on a book I'll be releasing as soon as I get an ISBN.
The MAFIAA knows piracy sells. The trouble is, it sells indie stuff as well as MAFIAA stuff, and when you buy two indie CDs that's an RIAA CD that lost a sale. The fight against "piracy" is a fight to stifle competition.
Nobody ever lost money on piracy, but many artists have gone hungry from obscurity, a prime example being Van Gogh.
Reading comprehension problems? He said PATENTS, your response was about copyrights. Patents and copyrights are alike like snakes and watermelons are the same things.
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It's their workers who get exploited, not their customers. Look at this incident. The company was repeatedly fined for safety violations, and those broken laws resulted in a dozen dead miners. Someone should have gone to prison for negligent homicide.
That's the exploitation he's referring to. These sociopaths don't care who they kill or how badly they foul the atmosphere (Monsanto before the EPA). They'll destroy the economy and impoverish huge swaths of the population for gain (Banks the last decade).
Indeed. This woman can't possible be a parent. She's certainly never battled a public school system to try to get a decent education for her kids. If I could have afforded to send my kids to private school I would have done so in a heartbeat.
Look at some of your fellow slashdotters, some of these guys seem barely literate, not knowing there from they're and their, not realizing that loose and lose are both verbs that mean completely different things, using greengrocers' apostrophes, etc (although many of these folks may not be native speakers). At least in the US, the public schools are abysmal.
Would I be for outlawing private schools? Of course. There should be a level playing field. It's terrible that our poorest children get the poorest educations, yet the rich who can afford a decent education sneer that they should pull themselves up by their bootstraps. It just isn't possible.
Wikipedia disagrees with you. I'll take wikipedia's word before I'll take an AC's word.
d) Lives under a bridge
"In the Bay Area, they're placing their truss in the bridge troll"
Then, how do I, as a poor inventor without the means to implement my invention, how would I be rewarded for revealing my invention to the world?
If you're poor you have no means of patenting your invention. Patents are damned expensive.
Well modded! Lignin or lignen is a complex chemical compound most commonly derived from wood, and an integral part of the secondary cell walls of plants[1] and some algae.[2] The term was introduced in 1819 by de Candolle and is derived from the Latin word lignum,[3] meaning wood. It is one of the most abundant organic polymers on Earth, exceeded only by cellulose, employing 30% of non-fossil organic carbon,[4] and constituting from a quarter to a third of the dry mass of wood.
some people stubbornly cling to facts... Total cancers caused by Fukushima disaster: zero.
Apparently you're not one of those who stubbornly stick to facts. A quick googling turns up pages and pages of news stories about thyroid cancers, that one showed up first.
Guess how big your's is measuring right now...?
Guess what a greengrocer's apostrophe says about your education...
I would love it if the US had a rule along the lines of "You have first choice to this spectrum, but if you aren't servicing the area then anyone can be granted a license for that locale. If you want to use that frequency there, then you have 6 months to set up towers."
I wish I had mod points. A useless +1 for you since I don't.
Have you ever HAD a Moosehead? It's like Dos Equis but less drinkable. I'm sure Canada has some fine beers, but Moosehead isn't one of them. Canadians, what do you guys drink up there?
I refer to both of you as "insane". Give it a fucking rest! pspahn, stop feeding the troll. Troll, get back under your bridge.
The problem with this concept is exactly what you pointed to but for a different reason. Nobody will obey a fucking robot's orders! As someone said above, cameras will do just as well. Can these robots use tasers or shoot people with firearms? Many "rent a cops" are off-duty police officers earning a little beer money.
Maybe for fear of loosing users
Unintentionally insightful. They are indeed setting their users free... but I think it was Snowden that loosed us. Maybe Snowden loosed their courage, or maybe it was a freaked out "Oh, shit, we gotta do somethin'!"
Unions care about union members insofar as that is where the union's power lies.
Can the propaganda.The union members ARE the union.
Unions are no longer worker organizations, and haven't for some time.
Utter bullshit. I suspect that the company you worked for you were in management. Read my previous comment. Everything the union does is voted on by the union members.
They are political organizations.
Of course they are, just as management is. They lobby for laws benefiting unions and more importantly, the union membership just as management lobbies for weaker worker protections.
Yes, the contribute to campaigns of candidates friendly to unions and the workers who ARE the unions. They campaign against union-hostile and worker-hostile politicians.
My union has a voluntary fund for political purposes rather than using dues for that purpose (YMMV). I gladly have $8 deducted from my monthly salary so my union can lobby for candidates who want to make my life as a worker better, rather than candidates who would write laws that would hold me down.
Unions do not negotiate. The coerce. Look at what happened with Hostess. They refused to negotiate in any meaningful way and the company shut down.
Ah, I see, you read FOX and nothing else. Try Wikipedia -- mismanagement killed Hostess, not the union. After they'd spent money like a drunken congresscritter they insisted on all sorts of "concessions" like slashing wages to make up for their poor management.
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Unions give you a lot of things, yes. But they do not create these things: they take them from other people.
Yes, they take them from the company.
They take and take and take until there is nothing left, to the point where it doesn't matter, because you no longer have a job.
Then explain why my dad was in the IBEW for 40 years and retired with a nice, fat pension and why all of the electric companies he'd worked for are all still generating and delivering power? Explain why American unionized automakers compete successfully with nonunion automakers? Explain why Disney is still in business, when they've been union since the 1940s? Face it, the only time you're going to hear about a union is when it's threatening a strike or its company goes out of business.
For the union bosses to stay in power (which gives them money(ever meet a poor union boss?)
No, and I've never heard of a poor union member, either. Meanwhile McDonald's and WalMart workers have food stamps and medical cards. Ever meet a poor board member or CEO?
they have to keep giving their members more and more, which in turn builds the dependency of the members.
That's what they're there for! Yes, I'm dependent on my union, I don't WANT to be on food stamps.
BTW, I retire with a pension next year. Do you think that would happen without a union? Damned right I'm dependent. With only social security I'd be poor as a churchmouse.
My union works for ME. I'm damned glad I have it. And I'm REALLY going to enjoy that ret
Well, there's plenty of evidence that Marijuana has effects on response time (like most depressants).
Since marijuana is not a depressant (yes, it can make you sleepy but so can benadryl, which is also not a depressant), you're going to have to give a citation re the for "effects on response time" for me to lend your statements any credence.
For most of us who've smoked pot, we know it definitely affects your faculties to the point where you cant drive safely
If you're too stoned to drive, by the time you get to the car you'll forget why you were getting in the damned thing.
still have the problems with fine motor control (keeping the wheel straight) as well as reduced response speed and impaired perception.
Never have I been so stoned I couldn't keep the wheel straight and never noticed reduced response time, but I'll take the word of a reputable study if you cite it. As to perception, that's never caused a problem for me walking, why should it driving? Note how people walk while talking on a cell phone, I've seen them walk blindly into telephone poles. I've had to avoid them to keep them from walking straight (well, staggering crookedly like people do while walking with cell phones).
I do agree it should be treated like cigarettes or alcohol -- completely legal for adults, harsh penalties to adults who supply it to minors.
The is the worst thing about today's marijuana laws: it's easier for a fifteen year old to buy pot than it is for a forty year old. The fifteen year old is guranteed to not be a narc, unlike the forty year old.
Maybe this is why? Is Marijuana a Safe Drug? Teenage Brain at Risk for Drug Abuse
I guess we should outlaw alcohol for adult use as well, then. Nobody is suggesting that it should be legal to supply alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, or any other mind-altering substance to minors. As it is now, it's easier for a minor to get pot than for an adult.
Your argument is disingenuous and, if I may say so, fucking stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself for such a disingenuous argument. The mods shoud be ashamed for taking you past +1.
This is fine, except for the fact that many people would pay for it. But free is cheaper.
Free is advertising. Nobody's going to buy your album or book if they've never heard of it. If your premise "nobody will pay when they can get free" were true, libraries would have killed publishing centuries ago.
Also, the RIAA cannot prosecute someone for pirating indie work.
No, but they get their message across. The message is "downloading music is wrong and illegal". THAT is why they fight piracy, they have no need to prosecute indie fans. Any alleged downloader will do.
if you're so smart why aren't you rich
Because I'm smart enough to realize that a Tesla and a mansion with a swimming pool will not make me any happier than I am now. My needs and most wants are provided for, why should I waste my time and effort chasing dollars when I can be doing what I enjoy?
Donald Trump isn't smart enough to see how fucking stupid that comb-over looks.
PS: Money does indeed grow on trees. Ask any orchard owner.
Saying communism and capitalism are "atheistic religions" is a comment so far off the mark I don't even know where to begin.
In most Communist countries religion was specifically forbidden. Think China and Falun Gung, Stalin and Christianity.
Capitalism worships the almighty dollar. Its precepts aren't exactly atheist, since the dollar is an object of worship, but it is in complete opposal to Christianity. Capitalist: "NO NEW TAXES!" Christ: "Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's". Capitalist: "There's no such thing as a free lunch." Christ: "Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin". Capitalist: "Loose the lawyers on them, we're getting a cut." Christ: "And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers." Capitalist: Money money money MONEY!!!" Christ: "Blessed are the poor."
You think unions actually care about the employees, or even care about fairness?
The unions care about the union members because that's what they exist to do, and the union members are all employees. They're there to make sure that employees are treated fairly by management. They're there to get better pay, benefits, and working conditions for the employees.
Positions from shop steward on up are voted on democratically, as are contracts and strikes.
I would much rather trust the CEO of a company who only cares about their company than the union boss who only cares about his union.
There is strength in numbers. His union is YOU. Get it through your brainwashed head, your dues will far more than pay for themselves.
Never agreed that violent video games make a person more violent. I've been playing FPS since I was a child with my first being Wolfenstein 3D right when it came out. I also listen to heavy metal.
The bit about heavy metal is hilarious to me. It hearkens back to the PMRC (Al Gore's wife) and Twisted Sister, grilling the guy from the band about the song "Under the Blade". OOOH, SPOOKY right? The song is about having surgery.
A grieving father sued Ozzie Ozbourne for for his son's suicide because one of the songs was named "suicide solution." It was an anti-drinking song.
And then there's Iron Maiden's getting flak from right wing nuts about "two minutes to midnight", which is an anti-abortion song!
There are the Christian groups denouncing Black Sabbath for After Forever ("would you like to see the pope on the end of a rope?") which was actually PRO-CHRISTIAN! The morons can can be excused for that one, of course, since it came right after Sweetleaf, a pro-marijuana song.
But the funniest thing of all was how the evangelists got all up in arms over Pat Boone putting out a heavy metal album, when if you listen to half of the metal out there, the lyrics could be church hymns.
The outcry against heavy metal was even more stupid than the outcry against video games.
I'm not ok with piracy.
I'm not ok with plagiarism or commercial piracy, but I'm fine with file sharing. And I say that as someone who just registered copyright on a book I'll be releasing as soon as I get an ISBN.
The MAFIAA knows piracy sells. The trouble is, it sells indie stuff as well as MAFIAA stuff, and when you buy two indie CDs that's an RIAA CD that lost a sale. The fight against "piracy" is a fight to stifle competition.
Nobody ever lost money on piracy, but many artists have gone hungry from obscurity, a prime example being Van Gogh.
If I had points I wouldn't know whether to mod you funny or insightful. Good comment either way.
Reading comprehension problems? He said PATENTS, your response was about copyrights. Patents and copyrights are alike like snakes and watermelons are the same things.