Eagles are cool and all, but at the expense of millions of dead humans?
You have no moral qualms against mass extinction?
As for the air being filthy, yeah, it was. But that's no excuse for attempting to make it laboratory pure at ridiculous expense, either.
"Laboratory pure"?? No, simply breathable. I grew up two miles from a Monsanto plant. You could not drive past it with the windows down because the air burned your lungs. How many human lives were cut short by that? You talk about the loss of human life, my uncle died at age 60 after working at a garbage incinerator for thirty years, my dad is 82 and his other two brothers were in their eighties.
Yes, clean air is certainly worth "ridiculous expense" especially when those who have to pay for the cleanup made obscene amounts of money with their filthy activities.
Poverty will take 6 1/2 years off a person's life
So my grandmother, who was poor all her life, would have lived to 106 instead of 99?
But their opposition to things like the XL Pipeline is insane - we need the oil
The US will be exporting more oil than importing by 2016. We don't need to ruin virgin environments for it.
How many people die in an average oil spill?
How many people died when the BP rig blew up? How many lives were ruined? That train accident was from human error. Human error happens.
Do I hate envirowackos? Absolutely. They bring us unnecessary human suffering.
On the contrary, the polluters themselves cause death and suffering. Even if there had been a pipeline that trainload of fuel would have still been rolling. How many years will be cut from my life because of breathing Monsanto air as a child? Today, thanks to "envirowackos" pushing Congress and Nixon to pass the Clean Air Act, the worse you smell driving past it is maybe a whiff of bleach.
They don't know the word, "moderation."
Says the guy who drives a giant six passenger pickup truck to his desk job. You think corporations know about moderation?
If you'll notice, the NASA article and graphs are very short term, 1995 to the present. That small a time is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things.
Read your own link a little more slowly.
The Maunder Minimum
Early records of sunspots indicate that the Sun went through a period of inactivity in the late 17th century. Very few sunspots were seen on the Sun from about 1645 to 1715 (38 kb JPEG image). Although the observations were not as extensive as in later years, the Sun was in fact well observed during this time and this lack of sunspots is well documented. <snip> MSFC Solar Physics Branch members Wilson, Hathaway, and Reichmann have studied the sunspot record for characteristic behavior that might help in predicting future sunspot activity. Our current predictions of solar activity for the next few years can be found at this link. Although sunspots themselves produce only minor effects on solar emissions, the magnetic activity that accompanies the sunspots can produce dramatic changes in the ultraviolet and soft x-ray emission levels. These changes over the solar cycle have important consequences for the Earth's upper atmosphere.
Considering his "your an idiot" I'd say he's not a liar, but an uneducated, ignorantly opinionated fool who's fallen for Koch brothers' lies.
There seem to be an awful lot like him here, judging from wild swings in the moderation of my original comment. 20% actually modded it "troll" despite the fact that was informative, and intended to be educational with links to wikipedia explaining the science.
Someone like him, whom uses greengrocer's apostrophes, thinks lose and loose are the same verb, doesn't know the difference between who's and whose, is very obviously uneducated. Ever notice that none of the deniers have any concept of spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization, etc?
Delicious irony! You're uneducated, which explains why you've fallen for oil company propaganda.
Global cooling was a conjecture [not scientific theory] during the 1970s of imminent cooling of the Earth's surface and atmosphere culminating in a period of extensive glaciation. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect full scope of the scientific climate literature, i.e., a larger and faster-growing body of literature projecting future warming due to greenhouse gas emissions. The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but undergone global warming throughout the 20th century.[1]
But you go ahead and listen to the Koch brothers self-serving fairy tales.
I think you're misunderstanding the premise here. Johnny 5 was parroting comedians he'd seen on TV (I thought the robotic three stooges was hilarious). As to Data, I think you're referring to the episode with Joe Piscopo, where he simply repeated old jokes and always got the timing wrong. The only time he got Guinan to laugh was when she said his timing was off, and he said "my timing is digital" and didn't understand why Guinan thought it was funny.
He did laugh in an episode with Q, where Q temporarily gave him a sense of humor.
I'm sure a program can be written to generate jokes, but I'm equally sure that one will never be developed that will generate FUNNY jokes, or at least funny to someone not stoned out of their mind.
"Envirowackos?" Son, you're ignorant and either too young to know how fucking filthy the US air and water was before the EPA, or you're the CEO of a heavily polluting industry... ooops, "thru?" Nope, you never attended college and are very obviously young and may not have even gotten out of high school yet.
Either that or you're batshit insane. DDT doesn't harm humans but it almost made many bird species extinct, uncluding our national symbol, the bald eagle -- which is finally coming back after we got rid of DDT.
There is no way environmentalists will object to this vaccine. I suggest you do a little reading, and I don't mean Ayn Rand.
Could you give a citation for that "lowered solar output?" Because wikipedia disagrees with you. Do you work for an oil company or have you just succumbed to their propaganda?
As to should we worry, no. Worrying never solved anything. Worry isn't needed, planning is.
640k should be enough for anybody! Hell, I remember getting a megabyte seemed to be overkill. Just ten years ago I wouldn't have believed that a gigabyte wouldn't be enough to run Windows well.
I'd say something about my lawn, but I really don't care about my damned lawn.
alright you guys, cue in the references from "2010"
Somebody already did, seconds before you posted. It is boringly obvious, isn't it? Maybe I'm getting old, I don't know how old you are. I'd mod them down if I had points.
I'll have to look up that scientist you referenced.
I wonder if these "no karma bonus" buttons work...
I'd be very interested in knowing how NASA plans on disinfecting its spacecraft prior to launch so it doesn't wind up detecting now, or years or centuries down the line, what we brought with us.
Not just that they notice that it doesn't work the way they're used to, but that the pirated version is usually superior to the paid version. Take DVDs, a five dollar movie from WalMart often has unskippable trailers and always have warnings not to pirate even though they paid for the damned thing so the stupid warning isn't needed anyway. Then somebody gives them a burned DVD and it doesn't have all that control freak bullshit and tells them about TPB. It's only five bucks for the WalMart DVD, but hell... the studios are shooting themselves in their feet,
It's attributed to Heinlein, but I don't remember seeing it in any of his books. Of course, I haven't read all of them although there are quite a few on my shelf. Wikipedia says it's from Robert J. Hanlon, whoever that is (Google doesn't know, there are quite a few different Robert J. Hanlons listed).
Ignore that AC, he's trolling. However, if the SJ-R wasn't such a shitty mess the paid would be superior, but free often is superior. Linux has more features, a better UI, is faster than Windows, and upgrades speed it up rather than slow it down. Those free tomatoes in your back yard are far tastier and nutritious than store bought. They don't grow well with city water you pay for but grow well with free rain. And I love the free nectarines that grow on the tree in my yard.
Indeed. You would think the daily rag in a state capital would be digging, but the Springfield State Journal-Register is close to worthless. From looking at it you would think that every crime, fire, and accident is reported but few actually are. They want you to pay for worthless "news" as well as being subjected to popups, popunders, animated ads and all the very worse, annoying advertising? They're insane. The local TV station, wics, does more investigative reporting. There's a police scandal right now that they uncovered; the daily paper sort of repeats their nightly news of it in the next day's paper.
Meanwhile, we have a weekly paper that even the paper edition is absolutely free, its advertising is non-intrusive, and it does do investigative reporting. It also has movie reviews, a "pub crawl" section highlighting live music, recipes, etc. The SJ-R no longer has an editorial cartoonist; he was let go in their last round of layoffs. The Illinois Times hired him after the SJ-R layed him off. There are also a couple of syndicated cartoons.
Traditional newspapers are dead. There's way too much good free news to pay for it, especially when the free is better than the paid.
Because lawyers view the law as some isolated specialization that needs no connection to any other aspect of the world, real or imagined. It is viewed by most lawyers as an amoral disconnected dance in which both sides usually jargon-heavy language to defeat each other, whilst simultaneously baffling laymen. The Law is a ritual that, unfortunately, has real world consequences but as little actual relation to the real world as its high priests can manage.
Jesus said it better. "And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers."
For once that "OT" means "on topic". Considering revelations about NSA and FBI surveillance and that bunny worshipers are likely to be children, do you feel safe? I wouldn't.
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Eagles are cool and all, but at the expense of millions of dead humans?
You have no moral qualms against mass extinction?
As for the air being filthy, yeah, it was. But that's no excuse for attempting to make it laboratory pure at ridiculous expense, either.
"Laboratory pure"?? No, simply breathable. I grew up two miles from a Monsanto plant. You could not drive past it with the windows down because the air burned your lungs. How many human lives were cut short by that? You talk about the loss of human life, my uncle died at age 60 after working at a garbage incinerator for thirty years, my dad is 82 and his other two brothers were in their eighties.
Yes, clean air is certainly worth "ridiculous expense" especially when those who have to pay for the cleanup made obscene amounts of money with their filthy activities.
Poverty will take 6 1/2 years off a person's life
So my grandmother, who was poor all her life, would have lived to 106 instead of 99?
But their opposition to things like the XL Pipeline is insane - we need the oil
The US will be exporting more oil than importing by 2016. We don't need to ruin virgin environments for it.
How many people die in an average oil spill?
How many people died when the BP rig blew up? How many lives were ruined? That train accident was from human error. Human error happens.
Do I hate envirowackos? Absolutely. They bring us unnecessary human suffering.
On the contrary, the polluters themselves cause death and suffering. Even if there had been a pipeline that trainload of fuel would have still been rolling. How many years will be cut from my life because of breathing Monsanto air as a child? Today, thanks to "envirowackos" pushing Congress and Nixon to pass the Clean Air Act, the worse you smell driving past it is maybe a whiff of bleach.
They don't know the word, "moderation."
Says the guy who drives a giant six passenger pickup truck to his desk job. You think corporations know about moderation?
You're a fool.
I'd say that in the instances that mcgrew's law doesn't apply (the mistake didn't favor the one making it) Hanlon's law still applies.
If you'll notice, the NASA article and graphs are very short term, 1995 to the present. That small a time is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things.
Read your own link a little more slowly.
You're just a dishonest prick. A common liar.
Considering his "your an idiot" I'd say he's not a liar, but an uneducated, ignorantly opinionated fool who's fallen for Koch brothers' lies.
There seem to be an awful lot like him here, judging from wild swings in the moderation of my original comment. 20% actually modded it "troll" despite the fact that was informative, and intended to be educational with links to wikipedia explaining the science.
Someone like him, whom uses greengrocer's apostrophes, thinks lose and loose are the same verb, doesn't know the difference between who's and whose, is very obviously uneducated. Ever notice that none of the deniers have any concept of spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalization, etc?
Your an idiot.
Delicious irony! You're uneducated, which explains why you've fallen for oil company propaganda.
But you go ahead and listen to the Koch brothers self-serving fairy tales.
If I had points I'd mod you either funny or insightful. And equally offtopic, I love that sig.
Yo ho ho, anybody got any rum?
A pedestrian and a family of lawn gnomes later, you tell the cop in handcuffs "I wasn't doing anything wrong!"
Must be a real badass to disarm and handcuff a cop!
And Marvin
"...terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side" cracks me up every time! (c:
Yes, it was funny, but Marvin wasn't joking, he was serious. Marvin was a robot mimicking a mentally ill human with a brain the size of a planet.
I think you're misunderstanding the premise here. Johnny 5 was parroting comedians he'd seen on TV (I thought the robotic three stooges was hilarious). As to Data, I think you're referring to the episode with Joe Piscopo, where he simply repeated old jokes and always got the timing wrong. The only time he got Guinan to laugh was when she said his timing was off, and he said "my timing is digital" and didn't understand why Guinan thought it was funny.
He did laugh in an episode with Q, where Q temporarily gave him a sense of humor.
I'm sure a program can be written to generate jokes, but I'm equally sure that one will never be developed that will generate FUNNY jokes, or at least funny to someone not stoned out of their mind.
"Envirowackos?" Son, you're ignorant and either too young to know how fucking filthy the US air and water was before the EPA, or you're the CEO of a heavily polluting industry... ooops, "thru?" Nope, you never attended college and are very obviously young and may not have even gotten out of high school yet.
Either that or you're batshit insane. DDT doesn't harm humans but it almost made many bird species extinct, uncluding our national symbol, the bald eagle -- which is finally coming back after we got rid of DDT.
There is no way environmentalists will object to this vaccine. I suggest you do a little reading, and I don't mean Ayn Rand.
Could you give a citation for that "lowered solar output?" Because wikipedia disagrees with you. Do you work for an oil company or have you just succumbed to their propaganda?
As to should we worry, no. Worrying never solved anything. Worry isn't needed, planning is.
You can worry about global cooling in five or ten thousand years.
640k should be enough for anybody! Hell, I remember getting a megabyte seemed to be overkill. Just ten years ago I wouldn't have believed that a gigabyte wouldn't be enough to run Windows well.
I'd say something about my lawn, but I really don't care about my damned lawn.
*sigh* A few years ago I'd have said "you should read your links before you post them."
Touche'. A few years ago Google still worked.
alright you guys, cue in the references from "2010"
Somebody already did, seconds before you posted. It is boringly obvious, isn't it? Maybe I'm getting old, I don't know how old you are. I'd mod them down if I had points.
I'll have to look up that scientist you referenced.
I wonder if these "no karma bonus" buttons work...
I'd be very interested in knowing how NASA plans on disinfecting its spacecraft prior to launch so it doesn't wind up detecting now, or years or centuries down the line, what we brought with us.
Google can be helpful. So can wikipedia.
*sigh* a few years ago I'd have said "Google is your friend."
That artist's rendering was awesome, but I want to see some photos taken from landers. Not a bad article.
Not just that they notice that it doesn't work the way they're used to, but that the pirated version is usually superior to the paid version. Take DVDs, a five dollar movie from WalMart often has unskippable trailers and always have warnings not to pirate even though they paid for the damned thing so the stupid warning isn't needed anyway. Then somebody gives them a burned DVD and it doesn't have all that control freak bullshit and tells them about TPB. It's only five bucks for the WalMart DVD, but hell... the studios are shooting themselves in their feet,
It's attributed to Heinlein, but I don't remember seeing it in any of his books. Of course, I haven't read all of them although there are quite a few on my shelf. Wikipedia says it's from Robert J. Hanlon, whoever that is (Google doesn't know, there are quite a few different Robert J. Hanlons listed).
It won't pick up much sound closed and in my pocket. And you need a microphone in a telephone, having one in a TV makes no sense.
Ignore that AC, he's trolling. However, if the SJ-R wasn't such a shitty mess the paid would be superior, but free often is superior. Linux has more features, a better UI, is faster than Windows, and upgrades speed it up rather than slow it down. Those free tomatoes in your back yard are far tastier and nutritious than store bought. They don't grow well with city water you pay for but grow well with free rain. And I love the free nectarines that grow on the tree in my yard.
Indeed. You would think the daily rag in a state capital would be digging, but the Springfield State Journal-Register is close to worthless. From looking at it you would think that every crime, fire, and accident is reported but few actually are. They want you to pay for worthless "news" as well as being subjected to popups, popunders, animated ads and all the very worse, annoying advertising? They're insane. The local TV station, wics, does more investigative reporting. There's a police scandal right now that they uncovered; the daily paper sort of repeats their nightly news of it in the next day's paper.
Meanwhile, we have a weekly paper that even the paper edition is absolutely free, its advertising is non-intrusive, and it does do investigative reporting. It also has movie reviews, a "pub crawl" section highlighting live music, recipes, etc. The SJ-R no longer has an editorial cartoonist; he was let go in their last round of layoffs. The Illinois Times hired him after the SJ-R layed him off. There are also a couple of syndicated cartoons.
Traditional newspapers are dead. There's way too much good free news to pay for it, especially when the free is better than the paid.
I'd say that anyone buying a TV with a microphone is the stupid one. Lets hope people are smart enough to kill this stupid NSA wet dream.
Because lawyers view the law as some isolated specialization that needs no connection to any other aspect of the world, real or imagined. It is viewed by most lawyers as an amoral disconnected dance in which both sides usually jargon-heavy language to defeat each other, whilst simultaneously baffling laymen. The Law is a ritual that, unfortunately, has real world consequences but as little actual relation to the real world as its high priests can manage.
Jesus said it better. "And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers."
For once that "OT" means "on topic". Considering revelations about NSA and FBI surveillance and that bunny worshipers are likely to be children, do you feel safe? I wouldn't.