When you are dead and gone people will look at your children and judge you by them.
No, lol. Nobody does that.
And them some people leave some other legacy than just their children, well depends on people, to some people (losers) their ultimate goal in life is to reproduce. That's so animalesque.
Interesting, but how do you theorically do all that? Using hydro/microphone arrays? And what kind of processing does it involve? Cross-correlations? I'd be interested with technical details (I've been programming DSP programs for a couple of years now)
Oh my God! Eating nothing but large quantities of fries and hamburgers and stopping exercizing makes you fat! No way! McDonald's is so evil! As eating nothing but healthy food like brocolis is so good for health. If you eat nothing but brocolis for a whole month you'll be like in super shape!
Seriously, if you have a problem with McDonald's for what you saw in this movie, please die. One less hippie.
They will use every trick in the book to manipulate us.
By manipulate I take it you mean make us wanna by the products they're advertising? Oh my God! McDonald's has messed with my mind and manipulated me into eating their new hamburger (which was by the way very tasty, but I'm sure the feeling of tastiness was part of what they did to my brain) by screening me TV commercials depicting said new hamburger! Oh my God!!
Why should my internet operator, the guys protected up the ass by common carrier protections dictate my internet surfing activities?
Tell my ISP, Free, in France. They selectively limit the bandwidth on the ports of their choice (mainly P2P ports and popular online game ports, so eMule runs much better on ports 25/110 than default ports). So much that for a while I was literally grounded off BF1942, they would let me connect to servers but they limited it in such a way that you couldn't even spawn. And I'm not even mentioning about back when they'd lose up so many of your packets that only 75% of pings would return thus making anything impossible. All of this because they didn't have the infrastructure to keep up with their bandwidth promises.
Anyways, back on topic, I think it's naive to think that your ISP would limit your bandwidth/ping to certain sites in everybody's interest, they'd rather do that mafia style, asking big sites money to guarantee them a decent bandwidth/ping. I think some american ISP has already done it before.
What isn't meaningless? Hugs and kisses from beautiful women. Cranking up an engine you spent 4 weeks rebuilding and taking a drive down to a pizza place 100 miles away to celebrate. Waking up in the morning after damn dear dieing the last day and taking your first breath. Sitting infront of the computer and grabbing a flab of skin and noticing you've lost a lot of weight.
Funny, I consider all these things to be to a certain extend meaningless. The only meaningful things are steps you take towards personal accomplishement, as I see it.
As the Wikipedia article you linked to says, it's pretty bogus to consider that the human eye gets the equivalent of 600 million pixels, since this figure is calculated by using the eye resolution in the 2 wide max resolution cone, if you really wanted to record what the eye sees (which would involve syncing with each eye movement of course) then with a varying resolution camera you would only need a few million pixels.
I don't see what that telescope story has to do with anything tho..
I believe they'll have a harder time now with the tired old mantra 'There's no customer demand for Linux.
I haven't read the article, but I assume that it means that they ship their computers with Linux instead of Windows, and thus do not make you pay for your copy of Windows.
So if I got it right, it doesn't necessarily mean that people want Linux, but that people don't wanna pay for Windows and would rather install their own copy of it.
However, he expressed doubt that the stone's owner would allow researchers to drill a small hole into the chunk of amber. "I don't think he will allow it, because it's a very rare, unique piece," said Carbot.
Oh my god losers, they didn't even ask him, they just say "oh well I don't think he'll accept".
it doesn't seem as though the scientists will be allowed to drill into the rock, at the owner's request.
I love the smell of a misleading summary in the morning.
It's more like "bang the drum softly". Once every ten seconds.
That's 100 seconds, and then, it's not a regular beating, not regular at all, actually, it's pretty innacurate to think of it like drums beating. It's more like a noise, a continuous noise, just like the sound of a volcano while it's erupting, or the sound of a rocket while it's lifting off, only much lower. It's not a perfectly continuous noise either, you can see/hear distinct beats, but I don't think it's incompatible with a narrow band noise.
Anyways here you can hear for yourself what it sounds like, speeded up a thousand times, and if you speed it up even some more in an audio editor (since here it has some frequencies we hardly can hear) you'll see that it definitely doesn't sound like a regular drum beating but more like a noise, a noise between 0.02 Hz and 0.06 Hz.
It's a shame that so many people around here like you assumed that it was something like a regular drum beating, and started fantasying about it. That's what scares me about Slashdotters sometimes, we're too certain of our understanding of things.
Personally I'd wait for the next version, unless you're buying it only to play backups. I want region unlocking.
I talked to Guyfawkes, someone who's involved with this modchip project, about 10 days ago, and he told me that I'd be better off waiting a month or two, when a better version would come out, before buying this thing.
If I remember correctly he mentionned that currently the modchip makes you have to change discs by hand while they're spinning, as future versions will get you rid of that burden.
20) Rise of Nations - yeah, ok, this seems fair enough. It's a nice concept and still a fun game to play. I may even have moved it a little higher up the list. Graphics are dated quite badly now, so a sequel wouldn't go amiss.
Actually the sequel, Rise of Legends, has graphics entirely in 3D, and they're not bad, although I'm not so fond of the fantasy stuff. Glad this game made it to the list tho, it's my favourite RTS.
Don't forget MTA:SA Race and the upcoming MTA Deathmatch. I think when MTA:SA DM and when SA-MP 0.2 will come out (I think they'll both be released at about the same time, which should be no later than next summer) I think MTA will show more potential and quality than SA-MP. At least for now SA-MP is the only one that allows us to get out of our cars, in spite of its numerous bugs and it's advancement far under MTA DM's current betas (but hey, they're not releasing it until the editor's done..). About its bugs, I think that they have a strong impact on who fun it is, meaning it's half as fun as it could be (mainly shooting someone but not harming him although he doesn't cheat, or the poor collision handling of two vehicles in movement)
Not a single GTA? Sounds like either of the 3 last one was pretty important, and GTA:III on its own was quite a breakthrough, not to mention the commercial success and popularity of each episode.
Most companies don't bother to respond at all these days unless the response is positive. Rejection letters are a thing of the past.
Funny, because out of all the relatively large companies (most of the time 100+ employees) I have contacted, on the rougly 200 letters I've sent I received maybe 60-70 rejection letters. Much more than I'd ask for.
I'm done with this, if you wish to remain willfully ignorant you are free to do so - I'd ask that you not make yourself look like an idiot by spouting off horrible misrepresentations of physics, but I fear that is a lost cause
First of all, event 1 doesn't *happen* at 0.0238s to observed B, but it is *observed* at 0.0238s. Observer B would be stupid if he assumed that because he observed it at 0.0238s it means it happened at 0.0238s. And if someone at LA sent him a message at 0.0, and that he sent one back at 0.0, then yeah obviously it would all happen before observer B would *observe* the explosion, but it wouldn't happen before the explosion would actually happen.
Ok, if information travels from point A to point B faster than were possible with light, then that information is traveling superluminally. It doesn't matter if no physical particle actually moved, the information still has.
God, no, just no. From the quantum entanglement article (since that's what we're talking about, although as we said it cannot be used to actually trasnmit information) : "As a result, measurements performed on one system seem to be instantaneously influencing other systems entangled with it.". If we had to take FTL considerations in account, then it wouldn't seem to happen instantaneously. I mean, what's so hard to understand, instantaneous doesn't mean infinite speed. If you could teleport yourself from here to the moon in a tenth of a second, it would NOT mean you went faster than light (because if you did you would have felt quite some acceleration). That's the idea, there's no speed involved, therefore no going back in time.
you are misunderstanding sci-fi to be real physics
Well it's easy to claim that when we're talking about something that's not possible in the first place.
Would you consider instantaneous to be faster than, slower than, or equal to the speed of light?
Slower, much slower, like 0.00 meters/second actually. If it was possible to communicate using quantum entanglement, it would consist of rougly having a pair of photons in two distant places, and when the state of one would be changed the state of the other would instantaneously follow. So you see, there's really no speed involved there.
The whole point of relativity is that time isn't absolute - it is relative. If observer Jack Bauer in LA sees a bomb go off, and sends an instantaneously (faster than c) to DC observer B traveling away from DC at relativistic speed would see DC receive the message before the bomb went off (and he'd be no less correct than Jack). If observer B sees DC get the message that a bomb went off and can send information instantaneously he could send a message back to Jack, even before Jack sent the original message.
I hate to sound like my girlfriend, but you don't listen. Read again my fart analogy.
if you allow superluminal communication you allow causality violations
Sure, if you make a wave or anything else go faster than light, because then it goes back in time. It's not the case of our quantum entanglement example. The point is, if both DC and Jack Bauer synchronize their clocks to make sure they both got the same time while Jack is in LA, then when the bomb would explode at time 0, and that Jack sent his quantum message at time 5 (let's say milliseconds), DC would get Jack's message at 5 ms, and the direct information (let's say the gamma burst from the bomb) that the bomb exploded would come to them at 17 ms, and no matter what they would do at DC, even if they sent back a message at 6 ms, it would still be received by Jack 6 ms after the bomb exploded. That's because, it would be instantaneous.
I'm not making anything up, quantum entanglement is supposed to be instantaneous, and not "go at an infinite speed and go back in time". No. Instantaneous. And I don't think that it's accurate to say that in relativity there's no such thing as simultaneousity, even if time doesn't always flow at the same speed and in the same direction, you still can sync your clocks even if one goes back in time.
If you don't understand, either re-read the Hawking excerpt, or find another authoritative source.
lol, I have nothing to understand. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but well you're kind of the one who has to understand that what we're talking about here (communication over quantum entanglement, if it was possible) wouldn't go back in time because it doesn't go at any speed, but that it's instantaneous. You can misquote any nobel prize you want, that won't cut it;-)
if you can travel faster than light, the theory of relativity implies you can also travel back in time
Sure, except that it doesn't apply to our case, since communication by quantum entanglement, if it was possible, would be instantaneous, not because it would go at an infinite speed, but because it would be instantaneous. In other words, it wouldn't go faster than light, it would only be instantaneous, and therefore it wouldn't go back in time.
Think about the game Nabercular Drop or Portal, when you go through a portal, you keep going at the same walking speed, even if you suddenly move by a hundred yards. In other words, the information Jack Bauer would send wouldn't go faster than light at any point, it would only be instantaneously transmitted.
I think that it is generally thought that something is happening now when light traveling from the event reaches the observer.
Now that's bullshit, when we look at galaxies 13 billion ly away we don't say that we see them as they are now but as they were 13 billion years ago.
That whole Jack Bauer example thing is like saying, "if person A farts, but that by some magic person B that stands 10 feet away instantly finds out that A has just farted while the smell hasn't reached his nose yet, and that by the same magic he instantaneously orders A not to fart, the fart wouldn't be released at all and it should violate the law of causality."
Which means that if you send information faster than the speed of light, that information gets there before the event actually happened. In other words, you sent the info back in time.
That's utterly ridiculous. That means that the ping between any probe in the solar system should be of 0 milliseconds. And that means that any information going at the speed of light would actually be instantaneous. If you want to determine instantaneousness between say someone anywhere in the universe and yourself, ping him, then you guys could both have the clock giving the same time, instantaneously.
You have some awful misconceptions about relativity and all that. Maybe you should talk about it in sci.physics, they're good at explaining things when you're confused.
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When you are dead and gone people will look at your children and judge you by them.
No, lol. Nobody does that.
And them some people leave some other legacy than just their children, well depends on people, to some people (losers) their ultimate goal in life is to reproduce. That's so animalesque.
Interesting, but how do you theorically do all that? Using hydro/microphone arrays? And what kind of processing does it involve? Cross-correlations? I'd be interested with technical details (I've been programming DSP programs for a couple of years now)
ever seen the movie Supersize Me?
Oh my God! Eating nothing but large quantities of fries and hamburgers and stopping exercizing makes you fat! No way! McDonald's is so evil! As eating nothing but healthy food like brocolis is so good for health. If you eat nothing but brocolis for a whole month you'll be like in super shape!
Seriously, if you have a problem with McDonald's for what you saw in this movie, please die. One less hippie.
And did you see such an ad prior to doing this? ;-)
They will use every trick in the book to manipulate us.
By manipulate I take it you mean make us wanna by the products they're advertising? Oh my God! McDonald's has messed with my mind and manipulated me into eating their new hamburger (which was by the way very tasty, but I'm sure the feeling of tastiness was part of what they did to my brain) by screening me TV commercials depicting said new hamburger! Oh my God!!
Why should my internet operator, the guys protected up the ass by common carrier protections dictate my internet surfing activities?
Tell my ISP, Free, in France. They selectively limit the bandwidth on the ports of their choice (mainly P2P ports and popular online game ports, so eMule runs much better on ports 25/110 than default ports). So much that for a while I was literally grounded off BF1942, they would let me connect to servers but they limited it in such a way that you couldn't even spawn. And I'm not even mentioning about back when they'd lose up so many of your packets that only 75% of pings would return thus making anything impossible. All of this because they didn't have the infrastructure to keep up with their bandwidth promises.
Anyways, back on topic, I think it's naive to think that your ISP would limit your bandwidth/ping to certain sites in everybody's interest, they'd rather do that mafia style, asking big sites money to guarantee them a decent bandwidth/ping. I think some american ISP has already done it before.
What isn't meaningless? Hugs and kisses from beautiful women. Cranking up an engine you spent 4 weeks rebuilding and taking a drive down to a pizza place 100 miles away to celebrate. Waking up in the morning after damn dear dieing the last day and taking your first breath. Sitting infront of the computer and grabbing a flab of skin and noticing you've lost a lot of weight.
Funny, I consider all these things to be to a certain extend meaningless. The only meaningful things are steps you take towards personal accomplishement, as I see it.
As the Wikipedia article you linked to says, it's pretty bogus to consider that the human eye gets the equivalent of 600 million pixels, since this figure is calculated by using the eye resolution in the 2 wide max resolution cone, if you really wanted to record what the eye sees (which would involve syncing with each eye movement of course) then with a varying resolution camera you would only need a few million pixels.
I don't see what that telescope story has to do with anything tho..
value = ((12 >> value) & 3)
Confusing users is such an amusing activity.. lol..
I believe they'll have a harder time now with the tired old mantra 'There's no customer demand for Linux.
I haven't read the article, but I assume that it means that they ship their computers with Linux instead of Windows, and thus do not make you pay for your copy of Windows.
So if I got it right, it doesn't necessarily mean that people want Linux, but that people don't wanna pay for Windows and would rather install their own copy of it.
However, he expressed doubt that the stone's owner would allow researchers to drill a small hole into the chunk of amber. "I don't think he will allow it, because it's a very rare, unique piece," said Carbot.
Oh my god losers, they didn't even ask him, they just say "oh well I don't think he'll accept".
it doesn't seem as though the scientists will be allowed to drill into the rock, at the owner's request.
I love the smell of a misleading summary in the morning.
Ditto, that was pretty disappointing, it all looked pretty poor and unoriginal, where are Mountain View's paper-free toilets?
It's more like "bang the drum softly". Once every ten seconds.
That's 100 seconds, and then, it's not a regular beating, not regular at all, actually, it's pretty innacurate to think of it like drums beating. It's more like a noise, a continuous noise, just like the sound of a volcano while it's erupting, or the sound of a rocket while it's lifting off, only much lower. It's not a perfectly continuous noise either, you can see/hear distinct beats, but I don't think it's incompatible with a narrow band noise.
Anyways here you can hear for yourself what it sounds like, speeded up a thousand times, and if you speed it up even some more in an audio editor (since here it has some frequencies we hardly can hear) you'll see that it definitely doesn't sound like a regular drum beating but more like a noise, a noise between 0.02 Hz and 0.06 Hz.
It's a shame that so many people around here like you assumed that it was something like a regular drum beating, and started fantasying about it. That's what scares me about Slashdotters sometimes, we're too certain of our understanding of things.
Personally I'd wait for the next version, unless you're buying it only to play backups. I want region unlocking.
I talked to Guyfawkes, someone who's involved with this modchip project, about 10 days ago, and he told me that I'd be better off waiting a month or two, when a better version would come out, before buying this thing.
If I remember correctly he mentionned that currently the modchip makes you have to change discs by hand while they're spinning, as future versions will get you rid of that burden.
20) Rise of Nations - yeah, ok, this seems fair enough. It's a nice concept and still a fun game to play. I may even have moved it a little higher up the list. Graphics are dated quite badly now, so a sequel wouldn't go amiss.
Actually the sequel, Rise of Legends, has graphics entirely in 3D, and they're not bad, although I'm not so fond of the fantasy stuff. Glad this game made it to the list tho, it's my favourite RTS.
Don't forget MTA:SA Race and the upcoming MTA Deathmatch. I think when MTA:SA DM and when SA-MP 0.2 will come out (I think they'll both be released at about the same time, which should be no later than next summer) I think MTA will show more potential and quality than SA-MP. At least for now SA-MP is the only one that allows us to get out of our cars, in spite of its numerous bugs and it's advancement far under MTA DM's current betas (but hey, they're not releasing it until the editor's done..). About its bugs, I think that they have a strong impact on who fun it is, meaning it's half as fun as it could be (mainly shooting someone but not harming him although he doesn't cheat, or the poor collision handling of two vehicles in movement)
Not a single GTA? Sounds like either of the 3 last one was pretty important, and GTA:III on its own was quite a breakthrough, not to mention the commercial success and popularity of each episode.
Most companies don't bother to respond at all these days unless the response is positive. Rejection letters are a thing of the past.
Funny, because out of all the relatively large companies (most of the time 100+ employees) I have contacted, on the rougly 200 letters I've sent I received maybe 60-70 rejection letters. Much more than I'd ask for.
Korea
Korea... let me guess, you're american?
I'm done with this, if you wish to remain willfully ignorant you are free to do so - I'd ask that you not make yourself look like an idiot by spouting off horrible misrepresentations of physics, but I fear that is a lost cause
That was uncalled for, but same to you.
God, you're so thick :-)
First of all, event 1 doesn't *happen* at 0.0238s to observed B, but it is *observed* at 0.0238s. Observer B would be stupid if he assumed that because he observed it at 0.0238s it means it happened at 0.0238s. And if someone at LA sent him a message at 0.0, and that he sent one back at 0.0, then yeah obviously it would all happen before observer B would *observe* the explosion, but it wouldn't happen before the explosion would actually happen.
Ok, if information travels from point A to point B faster than were possible with light, then that information is traveling superluminally. It doesn't matter if no physical particle actually moved, the information still has.
God, no, just no. From the quantum entanglement article (since that's what we're talking about, although as we said it cannot be used to actually trasnmit information) : "As a result, measurements performed on one system seem to be instantaneously influencing other systems entangled with it.". If we had to take FTL considerations in account, then it wouldn't seem to happen instantaneously. I mean, what's so hard to understand, instantaneous doesn't mean infinite speed. If you could teleport yourself from here to the moon in a tenth of a second, it would NOT mean you went faster than light (because if you did you would have felt quite some acceleration). That's the idea, there's no speed involved, therefore no going back in time.
you are misunderstanding sci-fi to be real physics
Well it's easy to claim that when we're talking about something that's not possible in the first place.
you are misunderstanding plenty
Absolutely not :-)
Would you consider instantaneous to be faster than, slower than, or equal to the speed of light?
Slower, much slower, like 0.00 meters/second actually. If it was possible to communicate using quantum entanglement, it would consist of rougly having a pair of photons in two distant places, and when the state of one would be changed the state of the other would instantaneously follow. So you see, there's really no speed involved there.
The whole point of relativity is that time isn't absolute - it is relative. If observer Jack Bauer in LA sees a bomb go off, and sends an instantaneously (faster than c) to DC observer B traveling away from DC at relativistic speed would see DC receive the message before the bomb went off (and he'd be no less correct than Jack). If observer B sees DC get the message that a bomb went off and can send information instantaneously he could send a message back to Jack, even before Jack sent the original message.
I hate to sound like my girlfriend, but you don't listen. Read again my fart analogy.
if you allow superluminal communication you allow causality violations
Sure, if you make a wave or anything else go faster than light, because then it goes back in time. It's not the case of our quantum entanglement example. The point is, if both DC and Jack Bauer synchronize their clocks to make sure they both got the same time while Jack is in LA, then when the bomb would explode at time 0, and that Jack sent his quantum message at time 5 (let's say milliseconds), DC would get Jack's message at 5 ms, and the direct information (let's say the gamma burst from the bomb) that the bomb exploded would come to them at 17 ms, and no matter what they would do at DC, even if they sent back a message at 6 ms, it would still be received by Jack 6 ms after the bomb exploded. That's because, it would be instantaneous.
I'm not making anything up, quantum entanglement is supposed to be instantaneous, and not "go at an infinite speed and go back in time". No. Instantaneous. And I don't think that it's accurate to say that in relativity there's no such thing as simultaneousity, even if time doesn't always flow at the same speed and in the same direction, you still can sync your clocks even if one goes back in time.
If you don't understand, either re-read the Hawking excerpt, or find another authoritative source.
lol, I have nothing to understand. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but well you're kind of the one who has to understand that what we're talking about here (communication over quantum entanglement, if it was possible) wouldn't go back in time because it doesn't go at any speed, but that it's instantaneous. You can misquote any nobel prize you want, that won't cut it ;-)
if you can travel faster than light, the theory of relativity implies you can also travel back in time
Sure, except that it doesn't apply to our case, since communication by quantum entanglement, if it was possible, would be instantaneous, not because it would go at an infinite speed, but because it would be instantaneous. In other words, it wouldn't go faster than light, it would only be instantaneous, and therefore it wouldn't go back in time.
Think about the game Nabercular Drop or Portal, when you go through a portal, you keep going at the same walking speed, even if you suddenly move by a hundred yards. In other words, the information Jack Bauer would send wouldn't go faster than light at any point, it would only be instantaneously transmitted.
I remember reading about that about 10 years ago in an article presenting the two possible explanations for this 5th extinction.
I think that it is generally thought that something is happening now when light traveling from the event reaches the observer.
Now that's bullshit, when we look at galaxies 13 billion ly away we don't say that we see them as they are now but as they were 13 billion years ago.
That whole Jack Bauer example thing is like saying, "if person A farts, but that by some magic person B that stands 10 feet away instantly finds out that A has just farted while the smell hasn't reached his nose yet, and that by the same magic he instantaneously orders A not to fart, the fart wouldn't be released at all and it should violate the law of causality."
Which means that if you send information faster than the speed of light, that information gets there before the event actually happened. In other words, you sent the info back in time.
That's utterly ridiculous. That means that the ping between any probe in the solar system should be of 0 milliseconds. And that means that any information going at the speed of light would actually be instantaneous. If you want to determine instantaneousness between say someone anywhere in the universe and yourself, ping him, then you guys could both have the clock giving the same time, instantaneously.
You have some awful misconceptions about relativity and all that. Maybe you should talk about it in sci.physics, they're good at explaining things when you're confused.