Poor analogy. Refilling with fuel is the analogue to refilling the battery with power. A proper car analogy would be taking it to a garage to change whatever the internal part of an automobile that is used to contain its fuel is called, when needed, never for most people.
I guess it's no proof of greatness, but I guess at least it's a proof of viability. I guess the proof of greatness would be found in the praise of the program.
Hehe:) wow that was before I renamed it to ARSS. So yeah basically ARSS is the core technology of Photosounder, although I worked so much on the core algorithms I'm pretty much sitting on ARSS 1.0.
The problem is that spectrograms of music look so little like anything else, it's no surprise that regular images sound little like anything even vaguely musical;-). However you're right, and I think one could definitely write an algorithm that would turn images into something more interesting. But I for one have little interest in computer-generated music, for algorithms have no soul. I wouldn't picture myself listening to a bunch of computer generated music with the hope of finding something even vaguely interesting sounding, hehe.
Oh, just turning images into sounds? Oh well, don't worry, you didn't miss out on much. I went through hundreds of photographs and fractal images, and the best sounds I could find out of them are all in the tiny flash mp3 player thing I have on my site. Some sounds are interesting, but it gets quickly old;-).
I was a bit saddened to find out that most images sound kind of the same, and none will blow your mind, although that's my opinion, maybe it will blow your mind if you never heard such sounds before;-). These days I'm more interested in learning to draw familiar sounds, and improving upon that.
Well, as for the short sounds, if it wasn't for it then you could just make up for a lack of sound export feature by recording the output, which isn't such a big deal, I mean I used to do that before I implemented the feature and hardly even minded;-). And no, image saving isn't disabled, neither is image copying to the clipboard, otherwise that would be indeed very crippling.
And no there's no quality crippling, but it could be better, which is why I'm trying to improve upon it as a priority.
I actually never thought it was that high on the CrippleDemo scale. I mean, without the short sound thing, it'd be pretty damn low.
Oh I investigated the question and there's no way saving an image is more efficient than an MP3, regardless of the compression, unless you're prepared for massive quality loss. However, I think some sort of vectorisation could be developed to store more efficiently graphical data, in this case you could probably end up with extreme sorts of speech compressions.
No, MP3s aren't supported yet, only OGGs and WAVs, but it's on the TODO list. A short sound every 3 seconds = heavily crippled? If that's about the resynthesis quality I'm working on it at the very moment (making sounds sound more faithful to the original) and I'll release version 1.2 with that improvement in a couple of days.
Oh ever since my FOSS implementation I get a regular stream of people who had the same idea as me;-). In some cases the idea is worth everything, in other cases the implementation is everything, in some cases like mine, I think it's a bit of both, a convincing implementation of a (relatively) far reaching vision. I get another regular stream of "you can airbrush out parts of a sound in Adobe Audition" or "MetaSynth turns images into sounds too", but only cause some people don't get the whole of the idea yet..
By the way, are you saying that your idea was just visualisation? If so it's called spectrographs, look it up, it's been around for about 70 years;-).
Guess what: everyone but you thinks your idea is stupid. Really. No one wants to steal it from you.
That's true, but it doesn't mean they're right. I had this great idea when I was in college, a program to convert sounds into images, edit the images and turn them back into sounds. I thought it was the greatest fucking idea ever. Yet when I would share my idea with other people they would go "who'd want to paint sounds up anyways?" or "it won't work".
I've been working on the idea for a few years in my spare time, and now I turned it into a commercial program which makes up for my main source of revenue and my other source of revenue comes from a consulting contract I got from getting an earlier FOSS implementation of it noticed by an engineer in some mining company.
The point being, no one would like your idea now, but wait a few years and your university will be glad to get money off what you made from it.
I don't agree with him, I reverse engineered his thought process;-). Saying that trends are logarithmic is like saying that all distributions are Gaussian anyways. Often true, but you can't rely on that. And everyone knows that computer power expends logarithmically anyways, hence the Moore law. Or rather, not quite, in the real world shit happens, perhaps why he was arguably a bit off on that.
Oh and that's no hyperbole, I grew up and went to high school in France, not Mississippi.
Actually you can generalize about a city of millions. Because if you compare those millions, as a whole, as an average, with another city of millions, says, Mexico City, you'll find discrepancies. It's this thing called culture, it influences people in lots of ways, and in return these people influence their culture back. It's nothing like racism or xenophobia as you seem to try to make it sound.
If the noise of your coworkers is too distracting, turn up the AC. More noise (the "white" and continuous type) is recommended when specific and transient noises are distracting. But I guess the noise of the hundreds of PCs would help with that.
Cell phones not common in 1999? They were already way mainstream, so much that my 75 year old father had learnt how to use one. Anyways that guy got so little right it's not even funny, but what's worse is what he missed out, mainly social networking, YouTube, and technological convergence into one portable device, i.e. the omnipotent cell phone. Body wireless LAN? Monitoring bodily functions?? lol..
Even if he was, so what? Plot the evolution of computing power over the decades on a logarithmic scale graph and you'll have no trouble extrapolating an "about right" figure for in 10 years. Any high schooler could do that.
Yeah, he didn't even see the computer-and-anything-else-into-a-phone thing, just so obvious "oh technology will get more tiny so we'll get thinner stuff than we have now". I mean, my phone does video camera, GPS, music player, portable video player, Web browsing machine, VNC and SSH terminal, video game console, radio, TV set and webcam and you didn't even see THAT coming only 10 years ago??
That's 1999 we're talking about, it wasn't such a big stretch for someone to see that coming. But no, all the guy saw was "oh hello computer, open Word, I'm gonna type a letter today. Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.". Get the hint Kurzy, you're out of touch.
Yeah, like 40 years ago, people totally strived to find food to eat. And by strived to find food to eat I mean laid in the grass barefoot smoking indo.
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Poor analogy. Refilling with fuel is the analogue to refilling the battery with power. A proper car analogy would be taking it to a garage to change whatever the internal part of an automobile that is used to contain its fuel is called, when needed, never for most people.
Unrelatedly, what does unibody mean??
Oh, by that standard TV sets are still not common then ;-).
Wouldn't it take more maintenance and unexpected downtimes with rubber tires instead of rail?
I guess it's no proof of greatness, but I guess at least it's a proof of viability. I guess the proof of greatness would be found in the praise of the program.
Hehe :) wow that was before I renamed it to ARSS. So yeah basically ARSS is the core technology of Photosounder, although I worked so much on the core algorithms I'm pretty much sitting on ARSS 1.0.
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The problem is that spectrograms of music look so little like anything else, it's no surprise that regular images sound little like anything even vaguely musical ;-). However you're right, and I think one could definitely write an algorithm that would turn images into something more interesting. But I for one have little interest in computer-generated music, for algorithms have no soul. I wouldn't picture myself listening to a bunch of computer generated music with the hope of finding something even vaguely interesting sounding, hehe.
Oh, just turning images into sounds? Oh well, don't worry, you didn't miss out on much. I went through hundreds of photographs and fractal images, and the best sounds I could find out of them are all in the tiny flash mp3 player thing I have on my site. Some sounds are interesting, but it gets quickly old ;-).
I was a bit saddened to find out that most images sound kind of the same, and none will blow your mind, although that's my opinion, maybe it will blow your mind if you never heard such sounds before ;-). These days I'm more interested in learning to draw familiar sounds, and improving upon that.
Well, as for the short sounds, if it wasn't for it then you could just make up for a lack of sound export feature by recording the output, which isn't such a big deal, I mean I used to do that before I implemented the feature and hardly even minded ;-). And no, image saving isn't disabled, neither is image copying to the clipboard, otherwise that would be indeed very crippling.
And no there's no quality crippling, but it could be better, which is why I'm trying to improve upon it as a priority.
I actually never thought it was that high on the CrippleDemo scale. I mean, without the short sound thing, it'd be pretty damn low.
Oh I investigated the question and there's no way saving an image is more efficient than an MP3, regardless of the compression, unless you're prepared for massive quality loss. However, I think some sort of vectorisation could be developed to store more efficiently graphical data, in this case you could probably end up with extreme sorts of speech compressions.
No, MP3s aren't supported yet, only OGGs and WAVs, but it's on the TODO list. A short sound every 3 seconds = heavily crippled? If that's about the resynthesis quality I'm working on it at the very moment (making sounds sound more faithful to the original) and I'll release version 1.2 with that improvement in a couple of days.
Oh ever since my FOSS implementation I get a regular stream of people who had the same idea as me ;-). In some cases the idea is worth everything, in other cases the implementation is everything, in some cases like mine, I think it's a bit of both, a convincing implementation of a (relatively) far reaching vision. I get another regular stream of "you can airbrush out parts of a sound in Adobe Audition" or "MetaSynth turns images into sounds too", but only cause some people don't get the whole of the idea yet..
By the way, are you saying that your idea was just visualisation? If so it's called spectrographs, look it up, it's been around for about 70 years ;-).
Guess what: everyone but you thinks your idea is stupid. Really. No one wants to steal it from you.
That's true, but it doesn't mean they're right. I had this great idea when I was in college, a program to convert sounds into images, edit the images and turn them back into sounds. I thought it was the greatest fucking idea ever. Yet when I would share my idea with other people they would go "who'd want to paint sounds up anyways?" or "it won't work".
I've been working on the idea for a few years in my spare time, and now I turned it into a commercial program which makes up for my main source of revenue and my other source of revenue comes from a consulting contract I got from getting an earlier FOSS implementation of it noticed by an engineer in some mining company.
The point being, no one would like your idea now, but wait a few years and your university will be glad to get money off what you made from it.
I don't agree with him, I reverse engineered his thought process ;-). Saying that trends are logarithmic is like saying that all distributions are Gaussian anyways. Often true, but you can't rely on that. And everyone knows that computer power expends logarithmically anyways, hence the Moore law. Or rather, not quite, in the real world shit happens, perhaps why he was arguably a bit off on that.
Oh and that's no hyperbole, I grew up and went to high school in France, not Mississippi.
Actually you can generalize about a city of millions. Because if you compare those millions, as a whole, as an average, with another city of millions, says, Mexico City, you'll find discrepancies. It's this thing called culture, it influences people in lots of ways, and in return these people influence their culture back. It's nothing like racism or xenophobia as you seem to try to make it sound.
If the noise of your coworkers is too distracting, turn up the AC. More noise (the "white" and continuous type) is recommended when specific and transient noises are distracting. But I guess the noise of the hundreds of PCs would help with that.
Yay, so he makes great synthesizers! And poor predictions!
A lot of old people (think 80+) aren't too displeased to see it coming.
Cell phones not common in 1999? They were already way mainstream, so much that my 75 year old father had learnt how to use one. Anyways that guy got so little right it's not even funny, but what's worse is what he missed out, mainly social networking, YouTube, and technological convergence into one portable device, i.e. the omnipotent cell phone. Body wireless LAN? Monitoring bodily functions?? lol..
I'll bite, what was NOT all predictable?
Even if he was, so what? Plot the evolution of computing power over the decades on a logarithmic scale graph and you'll have no trouble extrapolating an "about right" figure for in 10 years. Any high schooler could do that.
Yeah, he didn't even see the computer-and-anything-else-into-a-phone thing, just so obvious "oh technology will get more tiny so we'll get thinner stuff than we have now". I mean, my phone does video camera, GPS, music player, portable video player, Web browsing machine, VNC and SSH terminal, video game console, radio, TV set and webcam and you didn't even see THAT coming only 10 years ago??
That's 1999 we're talking about, it wasn't such a big stretch for someone to see that coming. But no, all the guy saw was "oh hello computer, open Word, I'm gonna type a letter today. Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all.". Get the hint Kurzy, you're out of touch.
Yeah, like 40 years ago, people totally strived to find food to eat. And by strived to find food to eat I mean laid in the grass barefoot smoking indo.
Oh I see. It sounds all very trivial then! Not.
Sure, well just gimme one, you're the one who makes the extraordinary claims.
OK kewl, I'll bite, so how can I hax0r into my ex-girlfriends computer, considered I know her IP address, and steal all her dirty pics?