Yeah, It started shipping with the commodore 128, I think. It's too bad commodore got the commercial rights for Amiga in the states, much better design than today's computers...
This is absurd. I deal with terabytes of data every day and the cost for what they want to do is not as expensive or as troublesome as they seem to think.
A system could be set up to give them real-time access to all their information and provide storage for less than 10 million and that's total cost up to 2005 where they were stating storage costs of 50 million a year.
Something is obviously wrong here. Am I missing something?
I'm putting together a response to this article and could use some help pulling together facts. This is the rough so far, and I'll be working on it today. I intend to submit it to wired, salon, cnn, Mr. Katz and call in to CNN Live tomorrow 1/14/99.
Lando
I've just finished reading Winn Schwartau's article Cyber-vigilantes hunt down hackers and I seriously question Mr. Schwartau's technical knowledge in this matter and knowledge of the cyber-community.
My credentials are as follows. I am a systems administrator/analyst working on high end UNIX systems and have been in my current position for 2 years. I have been working on the internet since 1991 and before that was actively involved with bbs systems since the early 80's. I currently have 12 years of systems administration experience and over 20 years programming experience. I work within the computing field, however computers are my hobby and after I leave work it is not unusual from me to spend 4-6 hours pouring over code and working on personal projects. I am familiar with elite/cracking proceedures and have worked with several hackers in the past in order to improve the security of my systems.
Disclaimer: The opinions represented here are my personal opinions and observations. They do not represent any corporate opinion or policy within my current employer. Portions of this message were developed and expanded by reading the comments section of Slashdot(1)
Introductions having been completed, I'd like to point out several problems with the news article posted by Mr. Schwarau. I believe this article was created propagate fear and anxiety. I feel that the article is inaccurate and contains misrepresentation by Mr. Schwartau. Though it is of the opinion of some of my colleges that inaccuracy in technical matters is the norm, I feel that this article goes beyond acceptable limits.
My primary objection is regarding the testomonial statements by Lou Cipher. To me these statements lack the ring of a professional system administrator. Refering to a post by Jabber on Slashdot(1)
The fact that CNN would release a story in which it claims that a senior security manager at one of the country's largest financial institutions would actually say "We are drawing a line in the sand, and if any of these dweebs cross it, we are going to protect ourselves", and incriminate himself by adding "We've broken in, stolen the computers and left a note: 'See how it feels?' and "We had to resort to baseball bats. That's what these punks will understand" is an absolute joke. No one in "that" position would speak to the media this way and expect to be taken seriously. The remainder of the article seems Kosher enough, but the Lou Cipher bit begs the question of where CNN gets it's information. Our CIO may be Beelzebub himself, but as far as I know, he doesn't have a KooL NiCk.
Jabber's opinion mirrors my own. As I see it the Lou Cipher character is one of three things, ie someone in IRC chat that was having "fun" with Mr. Schwarau who accepted that the other was a system administrator without verifying credentials, or Lou Cipher is a young computer buff who feels he knows more than most about computer systems and was hired by promoting himself as a "hacker" to the financial company, though he probably is not a senior security manager, or Lou Cipher is a fabrication.
In recent months various news organizations have been "caught" creating the news rather than reporting the news, this article and the Lou Cipher character bring to mind another article where the newspaper published a supposedly true story of a hacker demanding money, etc from a corporation.
As I said, the Lou Cipher character is the most blatent problem I see.
Other notes of interest include, The news article is presented as current day fact and happenings, whereas the DOD attack and response were
That out of the way, I'd like to point out several problems with the news article posted by Mr Schwartau, specifically I believe this article was created not as a news article, but more of a sensationalist article made to provoke fear and anxioty.
(1) Slashdot Homepage: http://slashdot.org Section referenced: http://slashdot.org/articles/99/01/12/1524230.shtm l
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/wray/memo.html http://www.nyu.edu/projects/wray/Sept26.html http://www.nyu.edu/projects/wray/CHRON.html September 10th http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/ecd.html Homepage Electronic Civil Disobedience
Seems to me there ought to be a way to make some money out there. If canadian artists were to create small mp3's and make them available for download then using the ftp download logs bill the govenment for the downloads. Since the music is not being distributed by the music industry, theoretically it could be argued that the artist should be the sole beneficiary of the tax amount less a government administration fee.
Any thoughts? Perhaps individual artists should ban together and hire an attorney to protect their rights in this matter.
I think one of the things that is most frustrating to me is the fact that though I have over 20 years of coding and computer experience "most" people who interview me have no concept of what I can actually do.
Most of my interviews basically break down into a situation of purely political BS in order to get a job.
The problem is that if the people that are doing the hiring don't understand what a good programmer can do and what a good programmer is worth they tend to lump everyone together and use certificates rather than certifications to determine whether someone can do the job.
I could be wrong on this, but I just don't see a CS or IT professional who spent 2 maybe 3 quarters actually doing beginner coding, comparing to someone that has worked in the field for years, even if just as a hobby.
Just a little frustrated at the moment, currently I work as a UNIX troubleshooter and I want to move back to developement. Biggest problems for me of course is the fact that when I head back to programming it's a significantly harder job than I currently do and I loose 10-20K a year.
I do think that the good developers should be paid more than "market" rate, however as long as CS and IT majors who know nothing and are thus promoted into management control who is hired and fired... Well...
I've been looking for a position for over a year and I'm starting to feel that honesty is not the best policy when applying for these positions.
Slashdot Mirror
Yeah,
It started shipping with the commodore 128, I think. It's too bad commodore got the commercial rights for Amiga in the states, much better design than today's computers...
23 TB roughly 2.3 million dollars raid 5 drives? Too expensive?
This is absurd. I deal with terabytes of data every day and the cost for what they want to do is not as expensive or as troublesome as they seem to think.
A system could be set up to give them real-time access to all their information and provide storage for less than 10 million and that's total cost up to 2005 where they were stating storage costs of 50 million a year.
Something is obviously wrong here. Am I missing something?
Hmmm,
No coding, nothing really of interest except to people playing N64. Looks like someone is just trying to promote their own interests.
I generally disagree with people complaining about sengan's editorials, but in this case that's all it is.
Lando
I'm putting together a response to this article and could use some help pulling together facts. This is the rough so far, and I'll be working on it today. I intend to submit it to wired, salon, cnn, Mr. Katz and call in to CNN Live tomorrow 1/14/99.
m l
Lando
I've just finished reading Winn Schwartau's article Cyber-vigilantes hunt down hackers and I seriously question Mr. Schwartau's technical knowledge in this matter and knowledge of the cyber-community.
My credentials are as follows. I am a systems administrator/analyst working on high end UNIX systems and have been in my current position for 2 years. I have been working on the internet since 1991 and before that was actively involved with bbs systems since the early 80's. I currently have 12 years of systems administration experience and over 20 years programming experience. I work within the computing field, however computers are my hobby and after I leave work it is not unusual from me to spend 4-6 hours pouring over code and working on personal projects. I am familiar with elite/cracking proceedures and have worked with several hackers in the past in order to improve the security of my systems.
Disclaimer: The opinions represented here are my personal opinions and observations. They do not represent any corporate opinion or policy within my current employer. Portions of this message were developed and expanded by reading the comments section of Slashdot(1)
Introductions having been completed, I'd like to point out several problems with the news article posted by Mr. Schwarau. I believe this article was created propagate fear and anxiety. I feel that the article is inaccurate and contains misrepresentation by Mr. Schwartau. Though it is of the opinion of some of my colleges that inaccuracy in technical matters is the norm, I feel that this article goes beyond acceptable limits.
My primary objection is regarding the testomonial statements by Lou Cipher. To me these statements lack the ring of a professional system administrator. Refering to a post by Jabber on Slashdot(1)
The fact that CNN would release a story in which it claims that a senior security manager at one of the country's largest financial institutions would actually say "We are drawing a line in the sand, and if any of these dweebs cross it, we are going to protect ourselves", and incriminate himself by adding "We've broken in, stolen the computers and left a note: 'See how it feels?' and "We had to resort to baseball bats. That's what these punks will understand" is an absolute joke. No one in "that" position would speak to the media this way and expect to be taken seriously.
The remainder of the article seems Kosher enough, but the Lou Cipher bit begs the question of where CNN gets it's information. Our CIO may be Beelzebub himself, but as far as I know, he doesn't have a KooL NiCk.
Jabber's opinion mirrors my own. As I see it the Lou Cipher character is one of three things, ie someone in IRC chat that was having "fun" with Mr. Schwarau who accepted that the other was a system administrator without verifying credentials, or Lou Cipher is a young computer buff who feels he knows more than most about computer systems and was hired by promoting himself as a "hacker" to the financial company, though he probably is not a senior security manager, or Lou Cipher is a fabrication.
In recent months various news organizations have been "caught" creating the news rather than reporting the news, this article and the Lou Cipher character bring to mind another article where the newspaper published a supposedly true story of a hacker demanding money, etc from a corporation.
As I said, the Lou Cipher character is the most blatent problem I see.
Other notes of interest include,
The news article is presented as current day fact and happenings, whereas the DOD attack and response were
That out of the way, I'd like to point out several problems with the news article posted by Mr Schwartau, specifically I believe this article was created not as a news article, but more of a sensationalist article made to provoke fear and anxioty.
(1) Slashdot
Homepage: http://slashdot.org
Section referenced: http://slashdot.org/articles/99/01/12/1524230.sht
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/wray/memo.html
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/wray/Sept26.html
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/wray/CHRON.html September 10th
http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/ecd.html Homepage Electronic Civil Disobedience
Seems to me there ought to be a way to make some money out there. If canadian artists were to create small mp3's and make them available for download then using the ftp download logs bill the govenment for the downloads. Since the music is not being distributed by the music industry, theoretically it could be argued that the artist should be the sole beneficiary of the tax amount less a government administration fee.
Any thoughts? Perhaps individual artists should ban together and hire an attorney to protect their rights in this matter.
Lando
Eventually it may be pennies for disk, but currently that 2 dollar charge is being charged.
Also called "wetware" A lot of hacks are done this way, rather than technical knowledge.
Lando
I think one of the things that is most frustrating to me is the fact that though I have over 20 years of coding and computer experience "most" people who interview me have no concept of what I can actually do.
Most of my interviews basically break down into a situation of purely political BS in order to get a job.
The problem is that if the people that are doing the hiring don't understand what a good programmer can do and what a good programmer is worth they tend to lump everyone together and use certificates rather than certifications to determine whether someone can do the job.
I could be wrong on this, but I just don't see a CS or IT professional who spent 2 maybe 3 quarters actually doing beginner coding, comparing to someone that has worked in the field for years, even if just as a hobby.
Just a little frustrated at the moment, currently I work as a UNIX troubleshooter and I want to move back to developement. Biggest problems for me of course is the fact that when I head back to programming it's a significantly harder job than I currently do and I loose 10-20K a year.
I do think that the good developers should be paid more than "market" rate, however as long as CS and IT majors who know nothing and are thus promoted into management control who is hired and fired... Well...
I've been looking for a position for over a year and I'm starting to feel that honesty is not the best policy when applying for these positions.
Lando