What complete rubbish! You are not limited by what you do to your car! You may invalidate the warranty but, as per your example, BMW can't stop it from being driven. They may refuse to service it but that is different from them stopping you from using it. Too entirely different things.
Same goes for the house. The bank can't stop you from making adjustments to the house as the house is in YOUR name, not the bank's. You owe the bank money in the form of a mortgage. You could decide the best form of decoration is to burn it to the ground and it would not change a thing. You would still owe the bank money but ultimately that property was yours (legally) to burn down and the bank would not be able to stop you doing it. It is up to them to get the money owed on the mortgage back from you.
On another point surely this is just a perfect reason to dual boot with Linux. Keep working on XP during the day (forget about Vista completely), where it is quite good enough for most things like running word etc, and then switch to Linux for private use where you can tinker to your hearts content.
Are we done with this memory ISN'T an issue crap?
Just because you don't have the problem does not mean the problem doesn't exist. I have a clean install of FF with no extensions and yet it still hogs memory after just a few tabs are open for a couple of hours. What is more FF does not release any memory when it is minimised. If you load the same tabs in Opera it could well take more memory (not in my experience though) but it *releases* it when minimised. I also note K-Meleon does not have the problem but still uses Gecko, so clearly this is to do with FF code. And no, not everyone has 1GB+ of memory to play with.
How can it not be relevant when it is sat on 90%+ of PCs and laptops? As much as we'd all love to see Windows gone, the fact is for the majority of the population "Internet" or word processing means M$. Outside of IT most people have never heard of Linux/Unix or other alternative OSs. For those that think the OS is irrelevant here, just remember that IT has been through this cycle before with the old thin client debate. Sure we're in a better position now than before, but browsers/webservices have a long way to go before coming close to the the functionality supplied by software running on top of a local OS installation. And by the time browser as platform becomes reality it would also mean Linux as a desktop OS becomes irrelevant as well. I'll also bet a lot of software companies will be fighting tooth and nail for M$ as their businesses have been built around windows software for PCs.
The popularity of Star Trek was not really down to special effects. It was down to story lines and the chemistry between the characters. Touching up the eye candy won't effect the story line. Trekkers will remain trekkers. Non fans won't like it any more just because the pictures look prettier. In short it's an ok thing to do , but why bother messing with a winning formula?
Been using it for a while now. I find the interface way superior to Gmail. Some of it's drawbacks include the length of time it takes to download the page for the first time. It's probably unuasable for dial ups. Also if you have a massive inbox and try to scroll down too quick the connection typically can't keep up with retrieving the titles.
My biggest bone of contention is that it does not work in Opera. It pisses me off somewhat as it is my first choice browser and almost non of the Yahoo! Ajax stuff works, including Yahoo music and even the personal home page. Can't figure out why a multi gazillion dollar company can't knock enough heads together to work something out.
Who said i was democrat?
I don't for one minute believe Dick Armitage "leaked" the information by accident. He's an ex seal operative. I'd say need to know would be pretty much ingrained in him, especially working at that level of government. With regards to WMD the majority of intelligence services got it wrong. That is true. And even then that is only because that is the official line given under government pressure. There is plenty of evidence to show that there was plenty of dissent within the intelligence community regarding the WMD issue. The difference though is that only the US and UK (of the big players) were pressing for war on this basis.
With regards to censorship; The US government has been cesoring stuff left right and center. i suggest you take a look at http://www.ncac.org/issues/freeex911.cfm
"At least the Americans have the RIGHT to question authorities".
A government can give a "right" to anybody about anything. That is cheap. It is whether that right is upheld that is meaningful. If it is subverted by the very same governement that gives that right, it is worthless. I can cite numerous example where people have questioned government authority and had their lives ruined. And i'm not talking about China (yes or course it is applicable to China), i'm talking about the US and UK.
Of course you are right in that censorship is far worse in China. And you cite execellent examples. My rant was really directed at most of the other posters on this story and similar ones bashing other countries. You could probably count on the fingers of one hand (exageration intended) the number of balanced posts such as yours. A fair few others are just baseless xenophobia and streotyping.
I concur with some of what you are saying. However I would definitely take issue with "The news agencies themselves were not prevented from reporting as they saw fit". That clearly is not the case. at least in the US. As with so many things in the US, items of news may be censored (for supposed reasons of national security/war on terror etc etc.) and the public would not even know about it unless it somehow filtered out through a blog or something. With regards to the impression that i don't think people have a right to criticse government; well maybe i gave the wrong impression. They should have a right to, of that i have no doubt. Hell, i'm a vociferous critic of my own government. But my point is the incessant slagging down on Slashdot of other countries that don't conform to a US/Western ideal is so incredibly tiresome that it detracts from what is otherwise an entertaining read.
Most comments to that effect have no weighting given to similar occurances in the poster's own country either because they are ignorant of it or are too lazy to cite it. It gives a totally lopsided view of the world. No doubt the ignorance of such posters show. But it is annoying in the extreme and does nothing for our reputation in the west for imposing *our* views on the rest of the world.
Here we go with the China bashing again. Criticism from countries which comply with all the international laws for human rights and freedom of speech need only apply. So that discounts the US, UK and a large swaythe of the european countries. I mean who ever heard of news being censored in the US or UK. No way never happened. And of course our government agencies would never try to discredit anybody trying to tell a story other than the offical government line. Never. Oh wait. "Dr David Kelly" anyone?. How about the Pentagon's censoring images of coffins coming home. Or maybe the outing of Valerie Plame? And of course the official story is always correct. WMDs anyone? No? how about some Tillman?
We need to get our *own* houses in order before we lay into some other country's ethics on free speech and personal liberties when it comes issues of national reputation/security.
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Amen to that one. I must be one of the few on/. that are bored stiff with FF stories. The rampant zealotry seems to have died down a bit in recent months, but still with the spread FF campaign, FF flicks and now this, i can't help but draw parallels with desperate publicity whores like some of those teeny boppers and big brother winners. Sooner or later people get sick of it and totally turn off. Far better to just quietly improve the product. The product, if it is good will speak for itself.
You talk like the the demise of some electronic equipment is some kind of catastrophe. E-Bomb, so what. The Tv and car won't work, and i won't get sms and email. Woopdifuckindoo. Would anyone die? no (unless you or some ventilator or something) at most it would cause mass inconvenience and cost industry a lot to fix. Is this scary to you? if it is, it shouldn't be. Get a reality check. If you want something to be trully concerned about take a look at the news about the wars, famine and crime. This Borg guy is a nut. Don't buy into this crap
No, because that would be stealing. You haven't stolen anything with a digital copy any more than if you bought a photocopied book. Which bit don't you get?
It's about time the big cooperations woke up to the correct way of combating the problem. In Hong Kong the pirate CD market essentially forced the software companies to sell their software for more realistic prices. The same goes for the films. It is now almost as cheap to purchase a legal copy (of certain films and software) as it is to get hold of a pirate copy. So most people's reasoning is why not buy the legit version if it is the same price? They have piracy to thank for this. To all those that say this is stealing etc. etc., don't you know that you are getting shafted big time with those prices? By just accepting those prices you are just reinforcing the companies perception that the public will take whatever is handed to them.
The article is a bit light on the details but from what I can see i don't think the businesss will be taking off anytime soon. I don't they'll ever get to float the company even with major backing.
Even if just a quater of every U.S. infantry man had one of these at their disposal can you imagine the logistics to keep them all going? Infantry soldiers already regularly hump 1/3 to 1/2 their weight advancing to battle, so what the hell is the point of this extra crap that the soldier has to take care of? The average US soldier has so much personal gear he wants to throw the shit at the enemy just to knock down the weight of his backpack, so this 100lb of retarded design will get them up a hill for 15 minutes then what? They're not just gonna be allowed to dump these expensive exoskeletons (not least because they could be reused by the enemy, for 15 mins!). Even if they could get this thing to last 1 hour the uses would still be severely limited due to expense and logistics. If they want to make things easier for G.I. Joe how about something useful like self healing armour or self cleaning weapons and a couple of chicks at the end of the day...
"These numerous reports you speak of, decrying the United States' awful brutality and human rights violations - they are worried about us playing the wrong music to prisoners, or making them wear underwear on their heads" You must be referring to something like this then http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2005/09/25/usint11 776.htm or maybe this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4439850. stm I also would like to refer you to the Geneva Conventions on the Treatment and Handling of POWs. Granted i couldn't give a rat's ass about some of the allegations like disrespect to the Quran or naked pyramids as that stuff goes on even at University hazing, but i think you'll agree that some of the stuff mentioned is hardly a million miles away from those things carried out by China.
That's right. I point you to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4351422.st m. Pentagon reckons it is more like $90bn rather than the $30bn. FTFA "China also says its budget is dwarfed by US military spending, which last year totalled $440bn." And it turns out the $440bn U.S. is pretty much the accepted figure. Not just "what china says it is". So it's about time some guys on/. had a reality check on who's spending more on military and who is the more likely threat to world peace.
Have you seen the military budgets? Just google it for christ sakes it ain't hard. (I might also add that India this year spent more on military hardware than China). Hardware for hardware, China is behind in almost every aspect. The only thing they have superiority of is numbers (potentially) as far as i am aware the U.S. military is still be far the largest.
" And saying the U.S. isn't far behind China on human rights... that one was a joke, right?"
No, it wasn't a joke. I refer you to numerous reports from human rights groups and the United Nations.
In what way is it a threat? Militarily it is dwarfed by the U.S. Economically, the country pushing hardest for globalisation is, you guessed it, the U.S. As for the Chinese government scaring you, I can tell you the rest of the world is quaking in its boots about the current U.S. administration and its atrocious foreign and environmental policy not to mention the fact that the U.S. is not so far behind China on human rights either. As a direct competitor yes, China is a "threat" but all these comments about China attacking etc etc is just pure nonsense. Its about time some of the posters here switched on to the fact that the U.S. is no longer flavour of the month in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Yeah! I'll be changing *back* to Opera. I've been giving FF a go since RC3 and whilst it is fine at rendering, the memory management positively sucks. I have a top of the range laptop that handles pretty much everything including heavy java apps etc. But it just totally chokes on FF. The old FF 1.0.7 was just about manageable because it would flush out the memory when minimized. But 1.5 doesn't do that. The memory usage just goes up and up. I end up restarting every 15 minutes. Opera is maybe a tad faster and so much more efficient. I can't help but think FF is massively overrated. I'll just keep FF for testing purposes from now on.
And eerr. Yes, that's exactly what happens. Just read the other threads if you don't believe me. If the app keeps sucking up memory without returning it to the OS then that *is* a memory leak. And no, that is *NOT* normal memory behaviour.
You've got to be joking right? Have you seen how much memory it uses? Just as a challenge do this. Get a fresh installation of FF then go to https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php ?application=firefox&numpg=1000&category=All to return ALL the extensions for firefox. Now have a look at how much memory it takes. Its about 76Mb on my computer. Now do the same in Opera. Its about 30Mb. Notice also how even if you close the page on FF the memory is not freed up (memory leak) Tell me with a straight face that this is a smooth product and a worthy award winner.....
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What complete rubbish! You are not limited by what you do to your car! You may invalidate the warranty but, as per your example, BMW can't stop it from being driven. They may refuse to service it but that is different from them stopping you from using it. Too entirely different things. Same goes for the house. The bank can't stop you from making adjustments to the house as the house is in YOUR name, not the bank's. You owe the bank money in the form of a mortgage. You could decide the best form of decoration is to burn it to the ground and it would not change a thing. You would still owe the bank money but ultimately that property was yours (legally) to burn down and the bank would not be able to stop you doing it. It is up to them to get the money owed on the mortgage back from you. On another point surely this is just a perfect reason to dual boot with Linux. Keep working on XP during the day (forget about Vista completely), where it is quite good enough for most things like running word etc, and then switch to Linux for private use where you can tinker to your hearts content.
Are we done with this memory ISN'T an issue crap? Just because you don't have the problem does not mean the problem doesn't exist. I have a clean install of FF with no extensions and yet it still hogs memory after just a few tabs are open for a couple of hours. What is more FF does not release any memory when it is minimised. If you load the same tabs in Opera it could well take more memory (not in my experience though) but it *releases* it when minimised. I also note K-Meleon does not have the problem but still uses Gecko, so clearly this is to do with FF code. And no, not everyone has 1GB+ of memory to play with.
How can it not be relevant when it is sat on 90%+ of PCs and laptops? As much as we'd all love to see Windows gone, the fact is for the majority of the population "Internet" or word processing means M$. Outside of IT most people have never heard of Linux/Unix or other alternative OSs. For those that think the OS is irrelevant here, just remember that IT has been through this cycle before with the old thin client debate. Sure we're in a better position now than before, but browsers/webservices have a long way to go before coming close to the the functionality supplied by software running on top of a local OS installation. And by the time browser as platform becomes reality it would also mean Linux as a desktop OS becomes irrelevant as well. I'll also bet a lot of software companies will be fighting tooth and nail for M$ as their businesses have been built around windows software for PCs.
The popularity of Star Trek was not really down to special effects. It was down to story lines and the chemistry between the characters. Touching up the eye candy won't effect the story line. Trekkers will remain trekkers. Non fans won't like it any more just because the pictures look prettier. In short it's an ok thing to do , but why bother messing with a winning formula?
Been using it for a while now. I find the interface way superior to Gmail. Some of it's drawbacks include the length of time it takes to download the page for the first time. It's probably unuasable for dial ups. Also if you have a massive inbox and try to scroll down too quick the connection typically can't keep up with retrieving the titles. My biggest bone of contention is that it does not work in Opera. It pisses me off somewhat as it is my first choice browser and almost non of the Yahoo! Ajax stuff works, including Yahoo music and even the personal home page. Can't figure out why a multi gazillion dollar company can't knock enough heads together to work something out.
Who said i was democrat? I don't for one minute believe Dick Armitage "leaked" the information by accident. He's an ex seal operative. I'd say need to know would be pretty much ingrained in him, especially working at that level of government. With regards to WMD the majority of intelligence services got it wrong. That is true. And even then that is only because that is the official line given under government pressure. There is plenty of evidence to show that there was plenty of dissent within the intelligence community regarding the WMD issue. The difference though is that only the US and UK (of the big players) were pressing for war on this basis. With regards to censorship; The US government has been cesoring stuff left right and center. i suggest you take a look at http://www.ncac.org/issues/freeex911.cfm
"At least the Americans have the RIGHT to question authorities". A government can give a "right" to anybody about anything. That is cheap. It is whether that right is upheld that is meaningful. If it is subverted by the very same governement that gives that right, it is worthless. I can cite numerous example where people have questioned government authority and had their lives ruined. And i'm not talking about China (yes or course it is applicable to China), i'm talking about the US and UK.
Of course you are right in that censorship is far worse in China. And you cite execellent examples. My rant was really directed at most of the other posters on this story and similar ones bashing other countries. You could probably count on the fingers of one hand (exageration intended) the number of balanced posts such as yours. A fair few others are just baseless xenophobia and streotyping.
I concur with some of what you are saying. However I would definitely take issue with "The news agencies themselves were not prevented from reporting as they saw fit". That clearly is not the case. at least in the US. As with so many things in the US, items of news may be censored (for supposed reasons of national security/war on terror etc etc.) and the public would not even know about it unless it somehow filtered out through a blog or something. With regards to the impression that i don't think people have a right to criticse government; well maybe i gave the wrong impression. They should have a right to, of that i have no doubt. Hell, i'm a vociferous critic of my own government. But my point is the incessant slagging down on Slashdot of other countries that don't conform to a US/Western ideal is so incredibly tiresome that it detracts from what is otherwise an entertaining read. Most comments to that effect have no weighting given to similar occurances in the poster's own country either because they are ignorant of it or are too lazy to cite it. It gives a totally lopsided view of the world. No doubt the ignorance of such posters show. But it is annoying in the extreme and does nothing for our reputation in the west for imposing *our* views on the rest of the world.
Here we go with the China bashing again. Criticism from countries which comply with all the international laws for human rights and freedom of speech need only apply. So that discounts the US, UK and a large swaythe of the european countries. I mean who ever heard of news being censored in the US or UK. No way never happened. And of course our government agencies would never try to discredit anybody trying to tell a story other than the offical government line. Never. Oh wait. "Dr David Kelly" anyone?. How about the Pentagon's censoring images of coffins coming home. Or maybe the outing of Valerie Plame? And of course the official story is always correct. WMDs anyone? No? how about some Tillman? We need to get our *own* houses in order before we lay into some other country's ethics on free speech and personal liberties when it comes issues of national reputation/security.
Amen to that one. I must be one of the few on /. that are bored stiff with FF stories. The rampant zealotry seems to have died down a bit in recent months, but still with the spread FF campaign, FF flicks and now this, i can't help but draw parallels with desperate publicity whores like some of those teeny boppers and big brother winners. Sooner or later people get sick of it and totally turn off. Far better to just quietly improve the product. The product, if it is good will speak for itself.
You talk like the the demise of some electronic equipment is some kind of catastrophe. E-Bomb, so what. The Tv and car won't work, and i won't get sms and email. Woopdifuckindoo. Would anyone die? no (unless you or some ventilator or something) at most it would cause mass inconvenience and cost industry a lot to fix. Is this scary to you? if it is, it shouldn't be. Get a reality check. If you want something to be trully concerned about take a look at the news about the wars, famine and crime. This Borg guy is a nut. Don't buy into this crap
No, because that would be stealing. You haven't stolen anything with a digital copy any more than if you bought a photocopied book. Which bit don't you get?
It's about time the big cooperations woke up to the correct way of combating the problem. In Hong Kong the pirate CD market essentially forced the software companies to sell their software for more realistic prices. The same goes for the films. It is now almost as cheap to purchase a legal copy (of certain films and software) as it is to get hold of a pirate copy. So most people's reasoning is why not buy the legit version if it is the same price? They have piracy to thank for this. To all those that say this is stealing etc. etc., don't you know that you are getting shafted big time with those prices? By just accepting those prices you are just reinforcing the companies perception that the public will take whatever is handed to them.
The article is a bit light on the details but from what I can see i don't think the businesss will be taking off anytime soon. I don't they'll ever get to float the company even with major backing.
Even if just a quater of every U.S. infantry man had one of these at their disposal can you imagine the logistics to keep them all going? Infantry soldiers already regularly hump 1/3 to 1/2 their weight advancing to battle, so what the hell is the point of this extra crap that the soldier has to take care of? The average US soldier has so much personal gear he wants to throw the shit at the enemy just to knock down the weight of his backpack, so this 100lb of retarded design will get them up a hill for 15 minutes then what? They're not just gonna be allowed to dump these expensive exoskeletons (not least because they could be reused by the enemy, for 15 mins!). Even if they could get this thing to last 1 hour the uses would still be severely limited due to expense and logistics. If they want to make things easier for G.I. Joe how about something useful like self healing armour or self cleaning weapons and a couple of chicks at the end of the day...
"These numerous reports you speak of, decrying the United States' awful brutality and human rights violations - they are worried about us playing the wrong music to prisoners, or making them wear underwear on their heads"1 776.htm. stm
You must be referring to something like this then http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2005/09/25/usint1
or maybe this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4439850
I also would like to refer you to the Geneva Conventions on the Treatment and Handling of POWs.
Granted i couldn't give a rat's ass about some of the allegations like disrespect to the Quran or naked pyramids as that stuff goes on even at University hazing, but i think you'll agree that some of the stuff mentioned is hardly a million miles away from those things carried out by China.
That's right. I point you to http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4351422.st m. /. had a reality check on who's spending more on military and who is the more likely threat to world peace.
Pentagon reckons it is more like $90bn rather than the $30bn.
FTFA "China also says its budget is dwarfed by US military spending, which last year totalled $440bn."
And it turns out the $440bn U.S. is pretty much the accepted figure. Not just "what china says it is".
So it's about time some guys on
Have you seen the military budgets? Just google it for christ sakes it ain't hard. (I might also add that India this year spent more on military hardware than China). Hardware for hardware, China is behind in almost every aspect. The only thing they have superiority of is numbers (potentially) as far as i am aware the U.S. military is still be far the largest. " And saying the U.S. isn't far behind China on human rights... that one was a joke, right?" No, it wasn't a joke. I refer you to numerous reports from human rights groups and the United Nations.
In what way is it a threat? Militarily it is dwarfed by the U.S. Economically, the country pushing hardest for globalisation is, you guessed it, the U.S. As for the Chinese government scaring you, I can tell you the rest of the world is quaking in its boots about the current U.S. administration and its atrocious foreign and environmental policy not to mention the fact that the U.S. is not so far behind China on human rights either.
As a direct competitor yes, China is a "threat" but all these comments about China attacking etc etc is just pure nonsense. Its about time some of the posters here switched on to the fact that the U.S. is no longer flavour of the month in the eyes of the rest of the world.
Yeah! I'll be changing *back* to Opera. I've been giving FF a go since RC3 and whilst it is fine at rendering, the memory management positively sucks. I have a top of the range laptop that handles pretty much everything including heavy java apps etc. But it just totally chokes on FF. The old FF 1.0.7 was just about manageable because it would flush out the memory when minimized. But 1.5 doesn't do that. The memory usage just goes up and up. I end up restarting every 15 minutes. Opera is maybe a tad faster and so much more efficient. I can't help but think FF is massively overrated. I'll just keep FF for testing purposes from now on.
And eerr. Yes, that's exactly what happens. Just read the other threads if you don't believe me. If the app keeps sucking up memory without returning it to the OS then that *is* a memory leak. And no, that is *NOT* normal memory behaviour.
You've got to be joking right?p ?application=firefox&numpg=1000&category=All
Have you seen how much memory it uses?
Just as a challenge do this.
Get a fresh installation of FF then go to https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.ph
to return ALL the extensions for firefox.
Now have a look at how much memory it takes. Its about 76Mb on my computer. Now do the same in Opera. Its about 30Mb.
Notice also how even if you close the page on FF the memory is not freed up (memory leak)
Tell me with a straight face that this is a smooth product and a worthy award winner.....