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PCWorld Dubs Firefox Best Product of 2005
Peaceful_Patriot writes "PCWorld's list of the 'Best Products of 2005'
is out and Firefox
tops the list. Also notables are GMail
at number 2, Apple OS X, Tiger
at number 3, Skype
ranks in at 8 and Ubuntu
at 26!" From their Firefox article: "Are you sick and tired of Internet Explorer? Have you grown weary of the constant vulnerabilities and patches? Do you scratch your head at sudden program lockups and crashes? Are you dismayed that Microsoft hasn't lifted a finger to improve or enhance IE since it buried Netscape's Navigator browser at the dawn of the century? Yeah, me too."
I'm very surprised to sell Dell listed so many times. I mean, Firefox, Apple, Palm and a lot of the other top 10 were very predictable, but I'd never have guessed Dell. Poor Microsoft didn't even crack the top 100...
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That blurb reads like an infomercial, not news.
Of course, I ain't complaining... whatever gets people to stop using IE.
I have this really funny quote that I like to put here. Unfortunately, there's this really annoying thing called a char
Yet again -- we saw this months ago!
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...was OS/2. So don't get too cocky. :-)
Nobody really cares about the top 10 unless it's your own product on there.
Two random things in IE that need to change soon: ctrl-l pops up a seperate window for you to enter a location, WHY? Ctrl-f does the same. Firefox handles both of these much more smoothly.
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WHO ATE MY BREAKFAST PANTS?
the quoted text is from 2004....
More PC bias going on here....
It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
I moderate therefore I rule!
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This was published in July. Is the story a dupe?
Why bother? vi's a given.
If you're like me, and you have installed the SessionSaver extension, you will find that Firefox 1.5 is extremely stable on Windows XP, and you now have 50-odd tabs of pages you will read "someday soon, when I'm not on the net" saved up in other windows.
I hope I am not the only victim of this scourge.
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If the guys would consider, even CONSIDER putting Firefox in the top 10, I guess they are too much of PRICKS to realize that (1) there are SOME people who view graphic files in their webbrowser [ones imbedded in html pages] (2) there are SOME people who use language other than English...
Can fuckwad Firefox handle either one ? HELL NO. Don't believe me ?
(1) Try viewing a web BBS which has maybe 5-10 50-100k jpegs per message. The only efficient way is to open maybe 5-10 tabs of message you want to read, and then flip through them... Well this turns out not to be so efficient after about the THIRD TIME when Firefox eats a whole through your entire system memory and your system grinds to a hault.
(2) Try dealing with ANY FILES which are ANYWHERE in a directory path which has a SINGLE Non-English language word anywhere in that path. Yeah, doesn't fucking work. I just LOVE having to COPY files around and rename them everytime I want to submit them in a webmail or in POS Thunderbird to attach to email. You guys are real fags.
How much of Ubuntu's praise comes from the free CDs that they give away? I just got mine last week (and again today), and while it is a great Distro, I don't really see what is so special about it.
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The problem for Microsoft is the overwhelming popularity of its browser. Virus writers and hackers target IE because there are so many systems running it.
Yeah right. And I thought you were PROMOTING firefox...
Friendly Fire, anyone?
Oh wow, obviously someone with mod points doesn't have a sense of humor, that or they didn't understand. A tip for future moderators, if you don't understand it don't bother moderating it. Your mod points are better used modding someone up who deserves it. If someone deserves to be read, then let them be read!
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Yeah that's a great product I use every day... wait I've never heard of it before. I thought we learnt not to produce products before the standards are finalised from the last Wi-Fi fiasco...
It's not exactly rocket surgery.
I understand the list is quite long, but surely PC World could have done better than use their July 2003 review for the Itunes Music Store. 200,000 songs? Mac Only?
Not only is this article from June, but it's been reported on before.
I like firefox, i use it, and i tell others to use it. But to say Firefox is the best product of 2005 is rather disappointing.
I'm surprised to see an Alienware machine at #6 seeing as their post-sales support has been atrocious for as long as they've been around. I know a good number of people who've bought machines from them; none of them would ever do it again. I guess this goes along with Cnet giving the Maxtor 250 external firewire drives their highest rating, while they have a 90% failure rate within the first 6-8 months.
Mozilla Team: "Well guys, we got our goal. PC World #1 spot. Close the web site down; we're satisfied with a job well done."
You're right, on the surface it looks like any other gnome based distro.
However, if you install it on a bunch of diff laptops, then compare it to another linux distro, you'll quickly find that what makes Ubuntu so good is that there is a lot of polish underneath.
Widescreen is detected and configured. Most wifi cards, auto mounting of external drives, sound card. Even special keyboard keys function on most systems I've installed it on.
I think Ubuntu is headed in the right direction. What makes Windows so great for noobs is that they install it and then they click to get on teh interweb. No mess, no fuss. One shouldn't have to spend all day trying to get the damn OS configured.
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I am not an IE zealot (I use FireFox), but this statement isn't 100% accurate. MS did add popup blocking support for IE in SP2. And there are a ton of new features for IE7.
Granted, too little, too late, and way behind FireFox's release/feature schedule (which is why I use FF and not IE), but at least Microsoft is doing something. Proof that competition is a Good Thing.
I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.
Really, I don't bother trying to be humorous anymore. I tend to make the comments that have bright responses, because those who get it respond - while those who don't understand the humor mod down.
I rank voipbuster.com as the best app of 2005 because since that I have made the switch to ditch my long distance carrier for voipbuster, I have only paid a total sum of $1.28 USD for my long distance calls here in the United States as well as my long distance calls overseas to a select few countries, which includes Taiwan. :-) Nothing like free long distance as long as I have internet connectivity. Now where is the nearest open wifi access point at...lol.
Read FireFox's history.
As long as IE is the only secure browser for online banking, Firefox wil always be second-best.
Have you grown weary of the constant vulnerabilities and patches? Do you scratch your head at sudden program lockups and crashes? - be careful, it is possible to say the same thing about FF now. I see FF crash very often now. Patches and vulnerabilities? FF has them too. It does look like FF gets the fixes much faster than IE though.
You can't handle the truth.
Actually, I think there is a point there. While I like Firefox, I think that a XUL-based web-browser is an inherently insecure architecture because there is no inherent boundary between UI and content. Yes, there is a security boundary that is enforced, but this doesn't strike me as any more secure than IE's security zones (and a lot of IE vulnerabilities involve zone privilege elevation).
In other words, Firefox trusts what is really *content* (basically XML documents with CSS and Javascript) in chrome to build its UI, but doesn't trust the same content on the web, and this is not much different than IE trusting an intranet site but not trusting an internet site. Indeed if anything it is worse because a malicious site, if it can bypass the security check using some currently unknown vulnerability, could literally rewrite any part of the UI in any way it wants. And given the great reusability of the Firefox UI components, it will probably blend in with whatever the installed theme is. Worse still, it would have access, as Chrome, to all the XP-COM stuff in the Mozilla framework. Indeed I expect Firefox to be *worse* than IE if it ever becomes the dominant browser. And I am not an MS fanboy by any stretch.
The advantage of XUL is that it allows for rapid cross-platform application development. For web browsers and other similar programs, this tradeoff has a fairly heavy security downside. I don't see Firefox falling off anytime soon, but I will be working more with browsers like Epiphany because of my concerns. I still deply firefox in environments where I need to be able to customize the UI (removing back buttons and the like) for corner-case environments, but in general it is no longer my browser of choice.
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Had the most hellish time with a wireless dongle trying to get it to run under anything but Windows. Turned out, of course, that it was one of those lovely products that used about three different chipsets in the "same" model, along with a range of other gotchas. Even ndiswrapper couldn't handle it. And of course the chance of Belkin actually assisting in any way are nil.
If there's any Belkin employees reading this: please tell your management that at least one person will start buying your products when you start releasing your hardware interfaces.
For the love of God, please learn to spell "ridiculous"!!!
It is up to version 6.4
Ooh. Flickr is love.
Google introduced a new feature that allows you to avoid dupes: All you need to do is search for a few words from the headline with the phrase site:slashdot.org stuck at the end. For example, search for PCWorld Firefox Best Product of 2005 site:slashdot.org This shows two dupes. Their top-secret site: feature is still in beta, but it works well.
so, firefox is better than google; ubuntu 5.04 is much better than ubuntu 5.10 (not in list); wikipedia is worse than windows media player 10 [etc]
PCWorld Dups Firefox Best Product of 2005?
wtf -> OS X 10.4 and Ubuntu are office software??? (http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,1207 63,pg,3,00.asp)
When a website sucks, wouldn't it be cool if you could press a button and tell the geek who runs it to screw off? When a website requires cookies and javascript just to view their products or get some info, wouldn't it nice to tell them to suck eggs?
So why not put some buttons in the browser that simply load a URL like http://somesite.com/YourSiteSucks or http://somesite.com/IHateCookiesStopRequiring or other words "GreatResource", "GreatSite", "TooManyAds", "PopupsSuck".
It would request the URL but not bother to show the "Page Not Found" error so you can go about your business.
Then the webmaster will find those words in his logs and see them in his stat reports. If this gets popular, companies will find this a good source of feedback on their website.
No one can patent this idea, I just posted it publicly on slashdot!
I am surprised MacOSX is behind Firefox. The later doesn't provide a huge functionality leap over earlier products such as Opera or Safari . On the other hand, everyone who used OSX for a month will never go back to Windows. Let's start with a fact that moving a window on XP leaves annoying flicker on the background while the "damaged" windows redraw themselves, while on MacOSX the movement is perfectly smooth.
I would give a nod to GMail though, because instant search and responsive UI for web mail are quite important.
Have you grown weary of the constant vulnerabilities and patches? Do you scratch your head at sudden program lockups and crashes?
Firefox has these problems too. Sure, they're not as bad but they're still pretty ridiculous, especially in comparison with other browsers like Opera, which by Open Source logic, shouldn't be as good because of the closed source model it uses.
Don't get me wrong, I like FF for a variety of reasons over other browsers. However, the fact that its eating 300 megs of ram with only this window/tab open (the slashdot reply box) tells of much room for improvement. And sometimes the browser just crashes without warning.
I really disagree with firefox being the best product of 2005.
Firefox is what I would recommend to anyone needing a web browser, but it's still got tons of problems. It's a hog, a complete hog. Of course there are plenty of factors to blame - but it doesn't remove the problem.
Yes, internet explorer sucks. It sucks that the browser market has so few reasonable players. It sucks that so many popular websites refuse to evolve.
Firefox is a glass of stinky water in a huge desert.
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I recommend Media Player Classic.
It's probably the best all-around media player available on Windows.
iTunes is probably good for buying music. For playing music, I find it about as bloated and awkward as Windows Media Player 10.
I could be wrong, but I think they just took a top 10 list and padded it with 90 sponsored links.
I've never had a problem with Gmail! I have no viruses in my inbox (and they now offer free virus scanning of your e-mail). I don't know what the hell you're talking about with the "buggy inbox" comment. It's always worked like a charm—no, make that better than a stupid old charm—for me on Firefox, IE, and Opera.
I was very skeptical of Gmail when a buddy sent me an invite way back when. I thought, "I have to read ads to see my e-mail? Forget it," and almost deleted the invitation. I went ahead and registered for an account, though, thinking that I could at least send files to myself and use it as an online repository. In no time, I had registered another "real" account that I use for all of my e-mail. I'm even a site admin, and I have all of my e-mail from the site forwarded to a Gmail account that I use because I like the client and the interface better than any POP client I've run across. (Yes, even Thunderbird.) If they'll just come out with Google Calendar, I'll probably even dump my work e-mail account!
Being a rather proud person, I hate to admit I'm wrong about something, but I was definitely wrong about that, and I'm glad I signed up. I highly recommend to everyone I know that they get a Gmail account, and it definitely earns that number two spot on that list.
Are you dismayed that Microsoft hasn't lifted a finger to improve or enhance IE since it buried Netscape's Navigator browser at the dawn of the century?
Some people would label that statement hollow cynicism. But in fact, a Microsoft manager told me straight out when IE 6 was about to be released that it wasn't really going to have any new features, because with Netscape pretty much dead there wasn't much point in developing IE anymore.
Microsoft had already introduced XmlHttpRequest as an ActiveX object with IE5. They had all the pieces in place back then to promote the off-channel request technique and give it a nifty name like "AJAX." Web apps could have been 5 years ahead of where they are today, and MS would have had a huge head start instead of now scrambling to catch up with Google.
I hope Opera doesn't try to steal this like they did a few years ago.
On the other hand, Opera is getting a little more slick when it comes to speed. I notice a Hell of a large difference when using Opera instead of Firefox, but Firefox doesn't cache things like Opera does.
On some other hand elsewhere, Gmail getting second is no surprize, though I bet they're going to sink like a Greek airliner when they lose cabin pressure over the new mandatory virus scan. Hopefully Google will think of something fast.
If you like a browser that sucks memory, and slow to load pages, then Firefox is the browser for you... if you like fast browsing, with less of a "footprint" on your hard drive, then Opera is the browser for you :-)
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so that I can see Chinese in bold style now, which I have been waiting since I first use Linux:
http://wangxiaohu.org/#post-64
No OS/2 was the typical case where MS somehow manages to sell the entire wold on an inferior product. Don't ask me how they manage it time and time again, if I knew I would have Bill Gates billions in stead of Bill.
Same can really be said about Firefox, although I prefer Opera (it is pure tabbed browsing and doesn't constantly forget that and open new windows instead except for help screens), good product but loosing in market share to the totally inferior IE.
Live ain't fair.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
It is a live saver however because the one thing that killed windows/IE for me years ago was that just as you found the site with the real free porn, eh I mean real usefull bit of info IE or windows or both crashed forcing you to start searching from the start again.
Opera on Linux went through a bit of problems at first but the crashes didn't matter, just restart and continue were you left off.
If only MS had at any point in its history realized that people are not upset about crashes, they are upset about lost work, they would not now be ..... eh top IT company with a strangle hold on the desktop, office software and internet browser market......
Where was I going with this?
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
How can you rate Firefox no #1 and Google (search engine) at #16 ?? Wikipedia is certainly useful..
I agree that it's valid to criticise IE for a lull in development once they won the browser war and ousted Netscape. I also think the competition between Firefox and IE is ultimately great for the consumer, since it has sparked a new emphasis in feature development for all the major browsers. This article seems to take it to an unwarranted extreme however, as the latest IE (particularly through SP2 and the optional MSN Toolbar) developments have added a lot in terms of security, for example the new anti-phishing filter. Also, Firefox has more than its share of critical vulnerabilities listed on Secunia, including more than a few that were as big of a deal as the recent IE exploit.
What? Did these guys not hear about openoffice? How can media player be rated > oo.org!!!!
Why UNIX?
I think FF definitely deserves the #1 slot.A lot of people would argue that IE runs better or Opera is a better browser.Yes , Firefox crashes.Yes, it has bugs.Yes, it sometimes uses huge amounts of memory.BUT so does every other peice of software ever written.It just doesnt have to do with the firefox itself but also the user environment like the operating system,the kind of hardware,buggy systems themselves etc.These are not ALWAYS the reasons for crashes and slowdowns but most of the time they are.
And I think what most people miss while comparing Firefox to Opera or IE is that Firefox is a much younger project than the others.Opera has been around for a number of years and has only just started to add better features.IE has always been around since there have been webbrowsers..So if you equate the amount of time these products have been in the market and the innovation/features they have been able to produce...Firefox wins hands down.Given a little time more, I dont think there will be any comparison to it.
All this without considering the financial aspects of software development(IE & Opera are commericial FOR PROFIT projects).
Lord of the Binges.
The shareholder is always right.
I love Firefox and it's all I use to browse the web thanks to its extensions, but I think there's more criticism of IE than it fully deserves. Get rid of the extensions in Firefox and I don't believe it's substantially better or worse than IE. They both have most of the features I would want in a browser. Aside from tabs, it's only when you start augmenting Firefox with extensions that it becomes head and shoulders better than IE.
The article talks about scratching "your head at sudden program lockups and crashes", I've found both browsers occasionally crash, in fact I would say IE is marginally more stable than Firefox, although FF is catching up again since 1.07. And I've had the theme in Firefox go odd on a number of occasions making Firefox unusable even in safe mode. I was glad to have IE around then.
The only real criticism of IE is the patching, but I'm not convinced Firefox is any more secure. It's just that IE has the biggest market share and therefore is targeted the most. Firefox has had its fair share of security flaws discovered, if it were at 85%-ish market share, would it be in a constant state of patching too? Not that this excuses MS for having security holes, but if Firefox gets a really good sized share of the market will it be any safer?
This isn't some sort of pro-MS, anti-Firefox rant, as I genuinely prefer Firefox, but I think many of the criticisms of IE are just things people repeat without actually bothering to decide if they are true.
Hehehe. That brought a chuckle to my morning, thankyou :)
I'm willing to bet that foXpose is a handy companion if you find yourself having lots of tabs open. The name pretty much speaks for itself. And if not, the screenshot certainly does.
Just installed this yesterday, so I can't comment on bugs or how useful it really is, but it seems neat.
I'm sorry to say that Firefox isn't really all that good. I started using it years back (firebird 0.8), and thought it was great - much better than IE, and much better than Galeon at the time. Mozilla was too sluggish for me, so I thought Firefox was The Answer(tm).
Five years or so down the line, I've grown to almost hate it. It's still the memory hog it once was. It basically freezes up on pages that display lots of images/flash, which really is unacceptable.
So I've moved back to Opera (again!). My vote for best product of the year would have to be Opera. They've become free (as in beer, not speech), which I think is awesome. They've also gone to the effort of making things easy for most standard Linux distros.
So until I start hearing good news about Firefox speed and memory improvements, I'll be sticking with Opera thank you.
Sorry for the rant, but I feel it was necessary.</rant>
Opera number 88 in the list
What a load of shit. If it was the most overrated product of 2005 then I could understand Firefox coming first.
As a program, Firefox is built on mature technology, and it's had things go smoothly because older browsers have tried and failed various approaches, and therefore Firefox could easily learn from these mistakes and avoid them.
You have got to be kidding me!If you look at the changelog for Firefox 1.5, guess which browser had most of those features first? Opera.
Also, Opera was one of the first (if not the first) browser with MDI. Popup blocking was also built into Opera before anything else. And the search field to the right of the address field in Firefox and IE7? Yet another Opera invetion from ages ago. Not to mention things like sessions, that let you continue where you left off, and so on. Bookmark nicknames? Opera. Easy deleting of private data? Opera.
Heck, even the built in e-mail client in Opera was lightyears ahead of others, like Gmail, which borrowed Opera's concept of virtual folders/labels.
I'm not even going to go into Opera for mobile phones...
You obviously don't know much about Opera, or you wouldn't have made a remark like that.
So what exactly has Firefox brought to the table in terms of innovation? Silly me, I thought Firefox was supposed to be a lean and mean browser, not a feature beast!So how exactly does Firefox win "hands down"?
Also, I've already answered the "amount of time" comment. Obviously Firefox has a huge advantage, in that it could start off clean, and look at older browsers to cherry-pick features and functionality. It doesn't have to make all the mistakes older browsers have made. Then again, it has made serious mistakes, some of which are being fixed or have been (extensions support).
So you think Firefox created itself for free? That no one has paid any money for it?Let me give you another history lesson. Mozilla was funded by AOL, and then AOL gave it a few millions in cash and sent it on its way. In other words, AOL's customers paid for it. Now others started donating to Mozilla - Google, Sun, Nokia, and so on. Now their customers had to pay the bill for Mozilla's development.
Now Mozilla has created its own corporation - the Mozilla Corporation - because they want to be able to make more money.
If you think Firefox or Mozilla has not had to consider the financial aspects of software development, you are dead wrong.
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ALT+ should stick to activating buttons and menus. In other languages, there are menus that should have the accelerator D, and there are more of these examples of these collisions. I'm pretty sure the designers of IE has had plenty of reason to smack themselves in the head for not thinking this through beforehand.
Epiphany for instance refuses to follow the conventions on this one, and while it is a bit annoying the first period of time, I do think they are making the right descision. CTRL+L still works, of course, and in the same smooth way as Firefox. Being consistent and catering to all users of all nationalities are both worthwhile goals IMO. Copying an old mistake from a mostly obsolete dinosaur is not.
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I know PC World is a rag, best used as toilet paper, but come on.
The Treo 650 made the top ten?! I've known a few people who have had them (myself included) and it crashed more then Windows 95 on a bad day. I never used the 600, but the 650 is a POS.
Seriously, iPod Photo makes the list, but the Nano doesn't? Does anyone really think that GMAIL is the second best product of the year, lol.
But my favorite one is, ready for this, its number 33, "The New York Times on the Web". LOL, what a rag.
Opera: Best for power users who keep many pages open at once and perform frequent downloads. There's an e-mail program included, but banner ads on the free version of the browser are annoying.
This was a mighty confusing (and simply incorrect) thing to say to me, until I noticed it was said a year ago.
Ummm...
So this is rather "Predictions of Best Products of 2005"?
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
What the fuck? Did anybody else think they were drunk when they read this?
While I like Firefox a lot, I do believe that it's becoming bloated in a way. Running Opera gives me way better performance but I just can't stand how Opera looks and feels. Firefox sometimes spasms all over my RAM or CPU and ever crashes out of thin air, both on my Windows and CentOS Linux computers.
Now, I have quite some friends which I recommended Firefox and other OSS products.
One of my friends was getting just annoyed by the amounts of spyware that he saw using IE. He wasn't a computer geek, nor a computer beginner. I gave him the link to Firefox and he's been using it since a pre-1.0 release! Now, I told him to upgrade to 1.5, and this is what happened:
"Ah! All my bookmarks are gone, the Google search bar on the top doesn't work. I can't save bookmarks and all the menus are 'screwed' up"
So, I told him to get the British version because it was still at 1.0.7. And it worked perfectly! So there's your story.
Also, believe it or not, my Grandma uses Firefox. I've installed 1.0.7 on her computer (didn't have time to try 1.5.0 yet) and Firefox had bouncing menus!
Yes, the menus bounced, literally! Up and down all the toolbars of all the Windows. So I was forced to install Opera, which doesn't have great additions such as adblock.
Firefox is great, but what about the whole performance and bugs prospect? Although, it's still the browser I use on all my non-Mac computers.
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What? It's not like we've talked about this list before. Technically, though, it was first linked to from this article in June.
Unfortunately my favorite crm/billing system isn't on the list. Based on PHP, MySQL and AJAX. Still in beta but very promising.
..and it works great in Firefox!
http://kreotek.com/products/phpbms
Yes , Firefox crashes.Yes, it has bugs.Yes, it sometimes uses huge amounts of memory.BUT so does every other peice of software ever written.
Konqueror doesn't use huge amounts of memory. Safari doesn't use huge amounts of memory. Neither of them have crashed on me in the past year or so.
Saying "yeah, all software is bloated" is an excuse that isn't founded in reality. Firefox has failed in its #1 priority: to be small and fast.
from the linked to web site:
...for a second rate bsd.
"Mac OS X Tiger delivers 200+ new features which make it easier than ever to find, access and enjoy everything on your computer. Upgrade your Mac for $129."
$ 129 !!!
why rank this higher than the real thing (more than 200 improvements), available for free (of course)
I can undestand than joe public could be taken in but, really, pcworld should know better
When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown in to the sea
"I have to totally agree! Opera totally blows away Firefox." - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 03, @09:20AM
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Yes, it does & has in the past, as far as performance!
See here:
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html#wi
For speed/performance? Opera IS the FordGT (from the automotive world) of webbrowser programs, hands-down - the fastest.
If you're into FAST & SECURE webbrowsers? Opera's your ticket-to-ride without a doubt! It also shows the LEAST security holes out there as far as browsers go iirc also.
Still don't get me wrong:
I'm not knocking FireFox though.
It's also a hell of a product, & its extensibility helps make it even better via its XUL 3rd party coded extensions!
BUT, those very extensions have proved a liability before (ala the "GreaseMonkey" extension vulnerability earlier this year):
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=156306&thr
That very thing is what has helped imo, to hobble IE, because it installs things w/out asking (ActiveX controls) by default. FireFox isn't like that, YOU make the moves on installing extensions, so YOU have to watch out & keep abreast of updates to them (the features for updating your extensions in FireFox are excellent by the by imo)
HOWEVER - I can tell you, point-blank/first hand though, that when it comes to fixing holes or bugs in their app? The Mozilla team's AWESOME!
I helped them fix an error while the FireBird product parsed a homegrown forums board @ NTCompatible.com a year or two back, & when the bug was reproduceable consistently, I wrote them with it & how to reproduce it on THEIR end.
They wrote me back, directly, the next day & fixed it, and even showed up to speak with us their directly, which I thought was MEGA-COOL of them - talk about service & accessible personnel!
APK
This is not meant to start an argument. It's a simple observation: FireFox is easily the biggest resource hog on my computer. I've seen it chew up 400-500MB of memory with only a handful of web pages open. Why do people give this program a pass? Is it simply because it's open source and thus not polite to criticize it shortcomings?
I totally agree. "Mainstream" media players these days totally suck ass. They are so bloated and ugly that it makes me want to die.
If you use Windows, I _highly_ recommend Media Player Classic. It's interface is based on the old school MS Media Player 6, which was as simple as it gets. It's small, fast, light footprint, but tons of option and keyboard controls if you want.
VLC is also pretty good and available for many different platforms. I dont like it nearly as much as MPC, but, the nice thing about it is that it will play about 99.9% of all media files you will ever download, regardless of whether or not you have the codec installed. This is the only time I use it in fact - when I dont have a codec installed for some random type of file. Some people love it as their main media player, it's just a matter of taste really.
I believe both have built in support for DVD playback as well. However, as I have a regular DVD player for my TV, I've never actually tested it.
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The windows hosts file is the best blocking method I've found. I use the hosts file from here: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Its the best popup and spyware blocker around.
Yes, that $200 case is a real great product...
Well it isn't the Borg that they're up against, but people in Season 1 Episode 10 (the latest one) of the ABC TV series Invasion can be seen using Firefox. It's in the scene where folks are explaining why they kidnapped the blogger, about 19 minutes in not counting commercials.
Almost all links in PCWorld articles point to PCWorld articles. In particular all citations are PCWorld references only. Normally valuable documents contain lots of external citations. References to third party documents illustrate that the writer knows what she or he is writing about and that statements are evaluated by a larger community. PCWorld articles on the other hand are of extremely low quality. They contain almost no imformation. It often seems the writer has no idea what she or he is writing about. It goes even so far that PCWorld writers report about the Cebit without knowing how to spell Hannover (the Cebit is located in Hannover). Of course the PCWorld editors also miss such points. Who cares about PCWorld?
Apple-L highlights the address bar. Apple-D is the "bookmark" command.
Apple-K highlights the search box. It's probably the keystroke in Firefox that I use the most.
Tried it, dumped it. It is too much of a pain in the butt to setup (you have to reinstall every media player you own, for example); and it's AV playback was erratic to the point of freezing or simply not working. This has never happened to me with Explorer, any version. Yes, for now, it is less secure than IE, but that will last only so long as it remains a bit player in the world browser marketplace. Should they gain serious market penetration, watch out. It took Mozilla a very long time to fix bugs and vulnerabilities in the second last edition, which they addressed by rolling out a whole new version. At their current rate of flaw/attack adaption, what's going to happen if they do gain significant market scale and hackers become seriously interested? No thanks.
It's "Mac OS X", made by "Apple".
See also: My current signature.
Why can nobody ever get this right? It's like the mental midgets who say their computer runs "XP OS" and talk about others running "Linux OS".
With spending like this, exactly what are "conservatives" conserving?
Rocketboom interview by that sexy Amanda Congdon.
A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
Hold on a second. I thought most of the Dell accessories like their TV's and printers were made by other manufacturer's with the Dell name stuck on them, or at best, to Dell specifications. Am I wrong? If not, they hardly deserve the listings.
if they're claiming Firefox to be a superior browser in terms of security.
in itself nor in any extension.
That's all I care about.
Nothing else matters.
No way, it sucks! Firefox sucks, Skype sucks, Google is OK. I don't know what I'd put in the top 100 but DEFINITELY not Firefox. It's an average browser, like opera, or netscape. Nobody uses it.. junk junk.
It is irresponsible journalism to simply take the hottest trends, put them on the top of the list, and use "album filler" for the rest of the top 100. Give the readers the content they deserve!
I've tried Ubuntu and its got nothing on SuSE 10. SuSE has always had great hardware support, and Ubuntu didn't work with 5 new hardware devices i had on my 3 computers, where SuSE had drivers for them all. Yast is the best system control panel for any distrobution. Its installation program is the best, whereas Ubuntus is the worst i've ever seen. Hands down Suse is easier and better supporting than Ubuntu, I just don't get why people like it so much.
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like the above its complete b..s..
andyeppers im drizzunk