Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs? Skimmed the article but didn't see that detail. Seems they're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships, yeah?
Yes, and if you can prove you have a proper key (trivial), you can have it white listed. Helps if you registered your copy of Windows.
People's chances of actually having a pirated version of Windows from a commercially produced system these days in the US is very small. Sucks if your system builder used a pirated key, but 99% of windows users will not run into that issue. If your brother's friend built you a machine on the cheap, then it could be an issue.
Yeah. The first time I ended up in that situation "from scratch" (not really, since it would have been easier to start with nothing...), I and another fella were hired in (him to be IT Director, me to be his flunky) to replace a couple guys who had, insofar as we could tell, done nothing for about 3 years.
We were somewhat lucky in that the OS divisions were almost entirely "floor of the building" based. Creatives on ground level, business (ad buyers, market research, management that wasn't c-level, and IT) in the basement. We ended up getting a nice XServe with attached RAID and getting most of the network run off it because the creative folks were emphasized in the company. After figuring out how to undo all the things the guys had not done, it worked pretty damn slick.
Where I am now, it's just the opposite. The creatives are hugely outnumbered by the need to support development (windows) and the development back end (a variety of *nix). So, OS X gets to play nice with AD instead.
All depends on the situation, but it definitely pays to be OS agnostic in one's job skills.
Sure, but at that point the solution is to pay the extra money for support from the OEM you purchased from. I can tell you that Dell's Gold-level Tech contracts are a godsend.
Marketing/ads/creative are departments that link quickly into revenue generation. As such, they typically get whatever they want. It's up to the systems side to figure out how to make it work.
Yeah but if they're a Mac shop they won't have a heterogeneous environment, and, most likely, they won't be running Exchange 2008 on the back end, either.
Because it's great from a support standpoint to have only one email client across an organization (after all, Entourage already does what Mail.app does in 10.6, right?)
Which is fine, OS X integrates fairly well into an Active Directory setup with a little tinkering.
As somebody who has to try and get OS X working in our already existing AD environment... I think you're using definitions for "little" and "fairly well" which I'm not familiar with...
That didn't work, let me try it again:
Advertising/marketing/(insert creative field here) businesses frequently use heterogeneous OSX+Windows environments. I've been with a couple of organizations like that, and it works surprisingly well from an admin viewpoint.
Advertising/marketing/ frequently used heterogeneous OS X / Windows environments. I've been with a couple of organizations like that, and it works surprisingly well from an admin viewpoint.
Totally. If you have only a couple folks and want something that is easily usable and interoperable, OS X is great.
Get beyond that, though, and it's not that you *can't* do it, but Apple isn't particularly interested in addressing the need with a wide array of enterprise solutions.
Which is fine, OS X integrates fairly well into an Active Directory setup with a little tinkering. It'll be a lot nicer again once Microsoft re-releases Outlook for OS X in the next version of Office.
The license says you must affix the proof of authenticity to the exterior of the machine.
Does the license say how much they're going to pay me for advertising their crappy product on my pc case?
My EULA that they didn't agree to (just as I didn't agree to theirs) states my ad fees are 100% the cost of a copy
of Windows. Looks like I owe them nothing.
OEM licenses are, technically, for system builders who are then reselling the system to an end user. The "affixing the sticker to the case" is to make sure that the end user has the license info from the OEM copy of Windows you used to build the machine.
Well, to be clear, I had previously upgraded a couple components and didn't need to do much of anything (Vista picked up the changes and I didn't need a new install).
But when I went to do the mobo and cpu update (can't honestly recall if it was a new gfx too), Vista balked on activation. Called up the number it gave me, talked to an automated system, got a verification number, typed it in, and I was off to the races (as much as Vista without any service packs can be considered to "race", anyway).
The current system I used was automated. I didn't have to talk to anyone.
In some cases, you might as well throw the system away, just because a new copy of Windows can cost more than a system is then worth, just because you upgraded or replaced a failed motherboard.
Whoever you're buying your OEM copies of Windows from is ripping you off, apparently.
Typically, any business of decent size will be able to get some manner of volume license that doesn't require activation.
Not to say that you're totally wrong that it might be considered useful, just that if a company has a VLK (or whatever MS calls them these days) and there's still pirated versions of Windows ending up on machines, it's a whole different problem.
You really think that with a UID this low, that I don't know anything about OSS? Please. The fact of the matter is that I'm not a software fundamentalist, and my job tasks work best using commercial operating systems. Spending time raging about licensing vs purchasing takes away from stuff I could be accomplishing that makes my life more fun.
I keep thinking of my in-laws, who took their (fully legal) PC that had become malware-ridden to a local "fix my PC" place and got it back with a pirated version of Windows.
Amazing. If for no other reason than they actually still had access to a local "fix my PC" place that wasn't at Best Buy, y'know?
No, because I knew what the terms of the license were when I purchased the product.
My principles are this: Does the product do what I want, when I want it, with a minimal amount of fuss?
For me, Windows meets, and has met, the bill for quite a few years. OS X does to an extent, but the hardware is expensive for my needs. Linux does not.
Slashdot Mirror
Are these mines that were intended to damage surface ships that sunk after time, or were they intended to get subs? Skimmed the article but didn't see that detail. Seems they're a bit too deep to be intended for surface ships, yeah?
Now, now. There's no need to insult Outlook Express like that.
Yes, and if you can prove you have a proper key (trivial), you can have it white listed. Helps if you registered your copy of Windows.
People's chances of actually having a pirated version of Windows from a commercially produced system these days in the US is very small. Sucks if your system builder used a pirated key, but 99% of windows users will not run into that issue. If your brother's friend built you a machine on the cheap, then it could be an issue.
Yeah. The first time I ended up in that situation "from scratch" (not really, since it would have been easier to start with nothing...), I and another fella were hired in (him to be IT Director, me to be his flunky) to replace a couple guys who had, insofar as we could tell, done nothing for about 3 years.
We were somewhat lucky in that the OS divisions were almost entirely "floor of the building" based. Creatives on ground level, business (ad buyers, market research, management that wasn't c-level, and IT) in the basement. We ended up getting a nice XServe with attached RAID and getting most of the network run off it because the creative folks were emphasized in the company. After figuring out how to undo all the things the guys had not done, it worked pretty damn slick.
Where I am now, it's just the opposite. The creatives are hugely outnumbered by the need to support development (windows) and the development back end (a variety of *nix). So, OS X gets to play nice with AD instead.
All depends on the situation, but it definitely pays to be OS agnostic in one's job skills.
Sure, but at that point the solution is to pay the extra money for support from the OEM you purchased from. I can tell you that Dell's Gold-level Tech contracts are a godsend.
Marketing/ads/creative are departments that link quickly into revenue generation. As such, they typically get whatever they want. It's up to the systems side to figure out how to make it work.
Yeah but if they're a Mac shop they won't have a heterogeneous environment, and, most likely, they won't be running Exchange 2008 on the back end, either.
Can't say much about that. Can say that I never had another problem with the (2) Vista OEMs that I re-activated.
Because it's great from a support standpoint to have only one email client across an organization (after all, Entourage already does what Mail.app does in 10.6, right?)
Don't think it'd really pull a lot of folks from OS X, to be honest.
Besides, Apple and Adobe will sort it out once they can figure out what will make the most money for each of them, at the expense of their customers :D
Which is fine, OS X integrates fairly well into an Active Directory setup with a little tinkering.
As somebody who has to try and get OS X working in our already existing AD environment... I think you're using definitions for "little" and "fairly well" which I'm not familiar with...
The first time is the hardest :)
Those products do exist, but they're really not Apple's focus, and are a very small amount of their total revenue.
What does it offer that any other *nix would not?
Runs Adobe Creative Suite native, for the most part. Doesn't sound like much, but it's enough.
That didn't work, let me try it again: Advertising/marketing/(insert creative field here) businesses frequently use heterogeneous OSX+Windows environments. I've been with a couple of organizations like that, and it works surprisingly well from an admin viewpoint.
Advertising/marketing/ frequently used heterogeneous OS X / Windows environments. I've been with a couple of organizations like that, and it works surprisingly well from an admin viewpoint.
Totally. If you have only a couple folks and want something that is easily usable and interoperable, OS X is great.
Get beyond that, though, and it's not that you *can't* do it, but Apple isn't particularly interested in addressing the need with a wide array of enterprise solutions.
Which is fine, OS X integrates fairly well into an Active Directory setup with a little tinkering. It'll be a lot nicer again once Microsoft re-releases Outlook for OS X in the next version of Office.
The license says you must affix the proof of authenticity to the exterior of the machine.
Does the license say how much they're going to pay me for advertising their crappy product on my pc case? My EULA that they didn't agree to (just as I didn't agree to theirs) states my ad fees are 100% the cost of a copy of Windows. Looks like I owe them nothing.
OEM licenses are, technically, for system builders who are then reselling the system to an end user. The "affixing the sticker to the case" is to make sure that the end user has the license info from the OEM copy of Windows you used to build the machine.
But you knew that.
Well, to be clear, I had previously upgraded a couple components and didn't need to do much of anything (Vista picked up the changes and I didn't need a new install).
But when I went to do the mobo and cpu update (can't honestly recall if it was a new gfx too), Vista balked on activation. Called up the number it gave me, talked to an automated system, got a verification number, typed it in, and I was off to the races (as much as Vista without any service packs can be considered to "race", anyway).
The current system I used was automated. I didn't have to talk to anyone.
In some cases, you might as well throw the system away, just because a new copy of Windows can cost more than a system is then worth, just because you upgraded or replaced a failed motherboard.
Whoever you're buying your OEM copies of Windows from is ripping you off, apparently.
Typically, any business of decent size will be able to get some manner of volume license that doesn't require activation.
Not to say that you're totally wrong that it might be considered useful, just that if a company has a VLK (or whatever MS calls them these days) and there's still pirated versions of Windows ending up on machines, it's a whole different problem.
You really think that with a UID this low, that I don't know anything about OSS? Please. The fact of the matter is that I'm not a software fundamentalist, and my job tasks work best using commercial operating systems. Spending time raging about licensing vs purchasing takes away from stuff I could be accomplishing that makes my life more fun.
I keep thinking of my in-laws, who took their (fully legal) PC that had become malware-ridden to a local "fix my PC" place and got it back with a pirated version of Windows.
Amazing. If for no other reason than they actually still had access to a local "fix my PC" place that wasn't at Best Buy, y'know?
Who paid for the call, fuckhead?
Yeah, you got me. I'll recant everything I said now. (Technically, Microsoft paid for the toll-free number and I paid for the cellphone minutes).
No, because I knew what the terms of the license were when I purchased the product.
My principles are this: Does the product do what I want, when I want it, with a minimal amount of fuss?
For me, Windows meets, and has met, the bill for quite a few years. OS X does to an extent, but the hardware is expensive for my needs. Linux does not.
It helps that I'm not an OS fundamentalist.
The system is automated now, at least since Vista. Never had to talk to anyone.