The reality is that copyright more often is used by the little guy against big/medium guys. Just yesterday there was a Twitter storm about how Hot Topic had items that were clearly ripped off by one of their artists from an identifiable indie source. Within 1 day, Hot Topic had pulled the item from their online stores and were starting the process to pull it from their retail stores.
The reason why? Copyright.
You and those like you can go on and on about life+70 years and what not, but clearly you don't create anything, because then you'd know that actual creative people have an urge to create, not to create and then "rest on their laurels". It's an extremely rare person who does that on their first try, at that. Copyright is there so that someone else doesn't get to take the easy way around and just swipe someone else's stuff.
I'm sorry that copyright prevents you from getting free stuff.
its called technological progress. the gun did away with centuries of feudal caste systems, the nuclear bomb stopped the cold war from becoming a hot war, the printing press enabled the enlightenment and the middle class, which destroyed the political powers of religions, etc
Your Cliff's Notes version of history is cute, but not entirely accurate. I'd like you to point out how religion and religious organizations no longer have any political power, for example.
and now, the internet has destroyed the copyright clause and 300 years of western legal tradition. its just that some fools like you don't see it yet
Yup, done away with. That's why you can still be sued for copyright infringement and lose. Obviously, the entire concept is ancient history.
laws created when publishers were a small gentleman's club cannot be realistically enforced on hundreds of millions of poor, media hungry and technologically astute teenagers worldwide who have more distributor power each individually than bertelsmann plus sony plus warner brothers plus the rest did in 1985
wake up, fool
You obviously don't understand the progress of copyright law in the western world since the Statue of Anne. Do some research, learn a little bit. Then come back and we can talk. And when you do, try to foam at the mouth a little less. It's hard on the carpet.
The builder doesn't have copyright on my domicile. That, in itself, eliminates any relevance your reply may have had.
If you have a problem with the existence of copyright, all you need to do is get the US Constitution and ~300 years of western legal tradition changed. Should be a piece of cake.
Man, they give short shrift to Stock-Aiken-Waterman. They wrote a ridiculous amount of music for a ridiculous number of people in the 1980's and early 1990's. I suppose that maybe at the time the article was written, the volume of their work wasn't as publicly known.
Yeah, copyright enabling people to control their works and creators getting paid for other folks utilizing their works is just a crime against God and man.
Well, you may (perhaps justifiably) object to their discriminatory stance, but they're hardly "above the law". You're essentially claiming that any court in any country should be able to have jurisdiction over any company in any other country. I'll pass on that one, thanks.
Interestingly, the Wikipedia article points out that it's always a sin, but not necessarily a mortal one, depending on the circumstances (because you may not know it was a mortal sin, I guess, and so they're gonna cut you some slack).
The only real "modern" Christianity movement with any longevity and a smattering of cohesion is the Evangelicals. Saying that some do or do no believe anything is somewhat pointless, since they can make up just about anything they want and it's "okay". Nonetheless, the overwhelming majority are certain that once you're Saved, you're good.
Yes, it's SCCM except for OS X. However, simply saying "remote desktop software" could mean nearly anything, including VNC-variants with no automated software install/update capabilities.
As someone who was raised in the modern Christian tradition, I can tell you that your knowledge of such is theoretical and not practical. Since our types of experience are not reconcilable until you have more exposure to the day-to-day beliefs of modern protestants and evangelicals (in particular) we will not come to agreement.
As for your claim that mine is a strawman, I point out that the belief system is a framework that endorses "means to the end" thinking. That, in itself, is problematic enough.
Which is why the RC church (amongst others) made suicide a mortal sin. It's a safety measure against people who thought the flawed premise through to its logical end and decided to skip to the good stuff.
The means are not important, because in modern Christianity once you're "saved" it's irrevocable.
This is why modern Christianity is different than Roman Catholicism and its brethren.
The teaching of eternal life after death so long as you are Saved (which, in modern, non-RC christianity, is non-revokable), an example already provided, clearly endorses and sanctions the idea that the ends justify the means.
You don't need a "remote desktop" program to do that. Having a "remote desktop" program basically means that you're doing it all by hand, which is the dumbest way to do it.
The entire premise of a religion where you have to slog through 70 years of life in order to get an eternal reward is a prime example of what the poster was talking about. Particularly with the "I am Saved" variety of Christianity.
Yeah, it's tough to ignore things. The natural human drive to tell everyone about how you don't like something and how the entire Internet is oppressing your right to not like something is truly a hardship.
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Yes, this is the common perception.
The reality is that copyright more often is used by the little guy against big/medium guys. Just yesterday there was a Twitter storm about how Hot Topic had items that were clearly ripped off by one of their artists from an identifiable indie source. Within 1 day, Hot Topic had pulled the item from their online stores and were starting the process to pull it from their retail stores.
The reason why? Copyright.
You and those like you can go on and on about life+70 years and what not, but clearly you don't create anything, because then you'd know that actual creative people have an urge to create, not to create and then "rest on their laurels". It's an extremely rare person who does that on their first try, at that. Copyright is there so that someone else doesn't get to take the easy way around and just swipe someone else's stuff.
I'm sorry that copyright prevents you from getting free stuff.
its called technological progress. the gun did away with centuries of feudal caste systems, the nuclear bomb stopped the cold war from becoming a hot war, the printing press enabled the enlightenment and the middle class, which destroyed the political powers of religions, etc
Your Cliff's Notes version of history is cute, but not entirely accurate. I'd like you to point out how religion and religious organizations no longer have any political power, for example.
and now, the internet has destroyed the copyright clause and 300 years of western legal tradition. its just that some fools like you don't see it yet
Yup, done away with. That's why you can still be sued for copyright infringement and lose. Obviously, the entire concept is ancient history.
laws created when publishers were a small gentleman's club cannot be realistically enforced on hundreds of millions of poor, media hungry and technologically astute teenagers worldwide who have more distributor power each individually than bertelsmann plus sony plus warner brothers plus the rest did in 1985
wake up, fool
You obviously don't understand the progress of copyright law in the western world since the Statue of Anne. Do some research, learn a little bit. Then come back and we can talk. And when you do, try to foam at the mouth a little less. It's hard on the carpet.
Just because you don't understand what can and cannot be copyrighted, doesn't mean those concerns are arbitrary.
Learn about copyright. Learn about licensing. Things will be a lot more clear to you when you do.
The builder doesn't have copyright on my domicile. That, in itself, eliminates any relevance your reply may have had.
If you have a problem with the existence of copyright, all you need to do is get the US Constitution and ~300 years of western legal tradition changed. Should be a piece of cake.
Man, they give short shrift to Stock-Aiken-Waterman. They wrote a ridiculous amount of music for a ridiculous number of people in the 1980's and early 1990's. I suppose that maybe at the time the article was written, the volume of their work wasn't as publicly known.
Yeah, copyright enabling people to control their works and creators getting paid for other folks utilizing their works is just a crime against God and man.
Yeah, they prolly put saccharine into the break rooms, too! And said that it was better than sugar! The bastards.
Well, you may (perhaps justifiably) object to their discriminatory stance, but they're hardly "above the law". You're essentially claiming that any court in any country should be able to have jurisdiction over any company in any other country. I'll pass on that one, thanks.
Interestingly, the Wikipedia article points out that it's always a sin, but not necessarily a mortal one, depending on the circumstances (because you may not know it was a mortal sin, I guess, and so they're gonna cut you some slack).
The only real "modern" Christianity movement with any longevity and a smattering of cohesion is the Evangelicals. Saying that some do or do no believe anything is somewhat pointless, since they can make up just about anything they want and it's "okay". Nonetheless, the overwhelming majority are certain that once you're Saved, you're good.
Because the reporter was for CBS News, not SciAm.
No True Scotsman
It is the actions of a group that defines them, not the guidelines they profess to follow in theory.
[citation needed]
Yes, it's SCCM except for OS X. However, simply saying "remote desktop software" could mean nearly anything, including VNC-variants with no automated software install/update capabilities.
As someone who was raised in the modern Christian tradition, I can tell you that your knowledge of such is theoretical and not practical. Since our types of experience are not reconcilable until you have more exposure to the day-to-day beliefs of modern protestants and evangelicals (in particular) we will not come to agreement.
As for your claim that mine is a strawman, I point out that the belief system is a framework that endorses "means to the end" thinking. That, in itself, is problematic enough.
No, I have a very practical, reality-based understanding of day-to-day modern Christianity. Which is why I am no longer counted in that number.
suicide now!
Which is why the RC church (amongst others) made suicide a mortal sin. It's a safety measure against people who thought the flawed premise through to its logical end and decided to skip to the good stuff.
The means are not important, because in modern Christianity once you're "saved" it's irrevocable.
This is why modern Christianity is different than Roman Catholicism and its brethren.
Your first one is a strawman. A false dichotomy.
The teaching of eternal life after death so long as you are Saved (which, in modern, non-RC christianity, is non-revokable), an example already provided, clearly endorses and sanctions the idea that the ends justify the means.
Except in this case if Rx drug abuse was the claim, the school wouldn't have any idea if the pills were legit or not.
You don't need a "remote desktop" program to do that. Having a "remote desktop" program basically means that you're doing it all by hand, which is the dumbest way to do it.
The entire premise of a religion where you have to slog through 70 years of life in order to get an eternal reward is a prime example of what the poster was talking about. Particularly with the "I am Saved" variety of Christianity.
Syadmin fanservice... hmmm...
Yeah, it's tough to ignore things. The natural human drive to tell everyone about how you don't like something and how the entire Internet is oppressing your right to not like something is truly a hardship.
You got marked troll because you speak/write like a troll.
Learn to speak/write like an intelligent human being and you'll get a much better reception.
Yeah, how dare they assess your minor break for triage and queue you accordingly. You're *you*! You should get treated immediately!